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TRUMP: Some love him, some hate him, now, I want to hear /b/'s

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TRUMP: Some love him, some hate him, now, I want to hear /b/'s neutral opinions on him.
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His election shows how dumb and TV addicted Americans have gotten. They voted for a sleazy real-estate crook because they believe he's some business genius who can save their fucked economy.
He won't. Men like him are the reason the economy is fucked and he's just going to betray the exact people who supported him.

Of course I hate the guy, he's a sorry excuse for a human being, but even if he gets impeached or ripped apart by feral dogs it won't solve the problem. Americans just need to get smarter.
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>>721381558
>neutral opinion
>sleazy real-estate crook
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>>721381740
Opinions by their very nature are not neutral.
You want me to like that piece of shit? I don't.
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>>721382170
You can not feel one strong way or another
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Trump is not that body type.
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>sleazy real estate crook
I think everyone knows he's a crook. It's a well documented fact that he doesn't pay contractors, and working people have lost their jobs & businesses because of it. He's used bankruptcy to weasel out of bills numerous times. And all the time he's flying around in private jets and pissing in gold plated toilets. Trump has never suffered because of the suffering he's caused.

The problem is there's millions of people who just don't care. They see him on his reality TV show and think if they support him they're somehow gonna get a gold plated toilet too.

It think that's Anon2's point. Amerifats are just dumb enough to believe anything they see on their idiot box.
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Better him than Hillary. We had to shot ourselves in the foot, but at least we'll probably survive.
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>>721380978
I know nothing about politics and dont give a shit who's president, but the election and events that followed were entertaining and I'm happy.
Regarding the guy himself; I think he's okay judging by his taste in women.

Im not americunt
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>>721383369
Bullshit.
For 30 years the right-wingers have been trying to make their stupid case that Hillary Clinton is crooked. Dozens of investigations and tens of millions of taxpayer dollars have been flushed and they've found nothing.
The only reason they're all so terrfied of her is that she's good at what she does and she's not working for them.

Then they all rally behind a guy who's an enormous, undisputed crook. Everything they accuse Hillary of doing there's proof of Trump doing a dozen times over. No right-winger who supports Trump has a shred of credibility left.
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>>721383369
>we had to shoot ourselves in the foot

What about the 5 or so other candidates faget?
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>>721384192
Johnson
Stein
McMullen
De La Fuenta
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>>721384373
Didn't McMullen get more than a quarter of the vote in two states?

I wish he'd one, it would've brought people together.
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>>721384526
I just wish he could have peeled enough votes away from Trump to cost him a few states.
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>>721384526
He was 2nd in Utah... Don't remember the percentage
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>>721380978
he should shave his head and get an actual dead animal to sit up there.
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>>721385062

He was fucking 3rd in Utah.

His home God damn state where he based his campaign.

He's trash and a subversive neocon kike.
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>>721385223
>kike
He's mormon, dumbass
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>>721380978
I love our god emperor
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>>721384526
>>721384764
>>721385062

3rd in Utah with 20% and 3rd in Idaho with 5%.

<1 literally everywhere else. He didn't even come fucking close.
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>>721381558
>he's just going to betray the exact people who supported him

He already betrayed them dingus
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>>721385296

lurkmoar retard
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>>721385389
that was obvious from the start, well to everyone with an IQ above 80.
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>>721380978
He is better than Hillary, but that's not a hard feat.
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>>721385389
>>721385535
>>721381558

>He already betrayed them dingus

He didn't betray shit retards. He's about halfway done with his campaign promises.

How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that he's going to betray us or not follow though at this stage of the game.
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>>721385725
first he makes life easy for all his billionare friends and family. then he removes restrictions on banking/investment so you loose what little money you have due to jackasses with free reign again. finally he takes your health care so you die and cant vote against him.
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>>721382943

>He's used bankruptcy to weasel out of bills numerous times.

Anytime someone says something like this, you instantly know they're a clueless retard that gets their talking points from John Oliver.

He's had 3 chapter 11's on a failing business he purchased and one legit chapter 7 for one of his hundreds of business.

Call him sexist and shit all you want, but saying he's a bad businessman and he's declared bankruptcy just shows that you're totally fucking clueless.
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>>721385535

Trump's supporters are dumb as a fucking rock. I hated Bush Jr. but he was at least surrounded by good people. So far all Trump has accomplished is threatened to make Mexico "pay" for a wall with a 20% import tax (rip vegetables and taking a shit once a day), and had his shitty travel ban temporarily undone. I'm still waiting to meet a Trump reporter I respect.

I really wish McCain ran again and I'm a pretty staunch democrat. He was at least founded in reality. A reincarnated Roosevelt running GOP would have lost to Obama after Bush Jr.
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>>721385979

You realize that repealing the ACA was one of his platforms right?

How is following through on that betraying his supporters.

And do explain how the common man loses money when banks invest. I'll wait.
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>>721386112
> but he was at least surrounded by good people.
Are you shitting me?

All they did was manipulate him non stop.
That's how we got Iraq among other bullshit.

He was weak.
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>>721386112

>I really wish McCain ran again and I'm a pretty staunch democrat

yeah no shit retard, hes a neocon RINO
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>>721386112

>the us depends on mexico for vegetables

what the fuck am I reading
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>>721380978
He's a retarded narcissist who's got at reality TV and not at politics. Just look what a shitty job he's been doing. Also he lies all the time and isn't smart enough to be president. He'e beloved of retards and spergy autists too.

Easily the worst American president ever.
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>>721386215

Cheney was shit, the rest were fine.
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>>721386323
Seasons.....
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>>721386112

if you were paying attention, you would know that the ban being undone is already being appealed.

the rest of your post is a steaming pile of garbage
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>>721386004
WRONG

seriously, didn't even bring up the bankruptcy bullshit. maybe look at the news sometime, look up the dodd-frank act.
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>>721384078
Nicely put.
Clinton is talented but bland, so the Trump team told lies to make her seem like the devil.

>>721383369
Not sure we'll survive, anon. Just look at all the wars Trump is looking to start already. Including with fucking Australia.
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>>721386394

We produce so much food, it literally has to be subsidized because it's borderline worthless.

And there are several places in the south to grow food.

>wahhhh I can't get strawberries for pennies so let's flood the country with immigrants
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>>721386489

Nope, not a single fucking argument in this post.

You're totally clueless.
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>>721386137
repeal and replace, say it with me...

anyone with half a brain can tell you its going to be impossible to repeal and replace that steaming pile without a stupid high cost and a lot of lost insurance plans.
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I actually dont really care about trump, i´d support him because he was the lesser of two evils

Also trump IS doing what he promised to do not like every other politician
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>>721386489

you seem to lack a handle on the English language friend.

Try again without being retarded this time.
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>>721386137
also, again, look up dodd-frank act.
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>>721380978
Neutral opinions of Trump on /b/? Yea.. good luck with that...
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>>721386795
>Also trump IS doing what he promised to do not like every other politician
Yeah, but this time, people hoped that he wouldn't.
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>>721386757

Moving the goal posts.

The argument wasn't
>repeal and replace is a bad idea
the argument is
>HES BETRAYING HIS SUPPORTERS

To which repealing the ACA was cited as a betrayal. Meanwhile Rand has a perfectly suitable policy to put into place that supplements the direction that Trump wants to take, but we're tied up with circle jerks over conformations.

So how exactly is that a betrayal again?
I'll wait.
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Trump es el mejor, lo amo!
Hazme un muro en el ano por favor!
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>>721386702
WRONG

your alternative facts dont change reality. not my problem if you're too stupid to research what your president is doing.
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>>721380978
He's the worst thing that could possibly have happened to this country.
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>>721380978
>Neutral

He's an okay guy I guess.
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>>721386857
>dodd-frank

Still haven't explained how this hurts the middle class.
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He is god.
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>>721387135
"neutral"
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>>721386987
>your alternative facts dont change reality. not my problem if you're too stupid to research what your president is doing.

This steaming pile of garbage might fly on facebook, but you haven't seen shit.

You smugly went
>muh bankrupcies
to which I cited the codes he used and explained why that was a facile argument and didn't apply
then you went
>LOL ALTERNATE FACTS

You're shit. Keep crying faggot for 4 fucking years.
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>>721380978
He's a fascist, authoritarian, narcissistic, thin-skinned oligarch.
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>>721386987

>he went bankrupt
>no he didn't and here's why
>lmao do ur research man

14 year old beaner detected
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>>721387252

>buzzwords: the post
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>>721386352
b8
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>>721387135
>>721387252
Neither of these are neutral
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>>721386352

>gotten more done in 2 weeks than Obama did in 8 years with half a cabinet
>everything he's done has been reflective of a campaign promise

Keep crying fag
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>>721387399

>strawman of people who don't exist

Nope, not an argument.
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>>721380978
He showed up on WWE once...
Great speaker and disrupted the 2 party system by being the first honesty campaign in the USA. Build the wall, fuck up Isis, and bring jobs back to our people. Don't want war but if attacked we slay the shit out of our enemies.

He truly earned my vote on the premise of Americans first and the idea of making this country safe by external military power, not by degrading and disarming citizens.
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>>721387558
>didn't read the constitution
>passed a retarded executive order
>created international outrage
>got btfo by a judge who had read the constitution
>moaned on twitter like a butthurt faggot

What did he actually do again, my fellow homosexual?
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>>721386352
History will not be kind in its evaluation of him or the imbeciles who voted for him.
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>>721380978
I have mixed opinions. I favor his immigration policies, but I disagree with his abortion stance. I am glad he's instituted a freeze on federal hiring and regulation, but I wish he wouldn't tweet so much. I liked his picks for Labor and Education Secretaries... not so hot on EPA head, and will reserve judgement on Tillerson. I like his SC nomination, who is probably the most moderate the Dems could hope for.
I would love to see the swamp drained, but kinda doubt he can/will do it.
I love the trolling he does, though. Whether it's driving SJWs into conniptions, telling John McCain to shut the fuck up, or black-balling CNN, the guy just tickles me.
The thing I hope for the most is that he stands by his campaign promises to keep us out of further regime change ventures in the Middle East. We'll see.
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Meh don't care, screech from saved by the Bell could be president for all I give a fuck
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>>721387746

>didn't read constitution
>passed a retarded executive order
Nice projection there, retard.
Refer to my image.
>>created international outrage
>nations are shocked that the US will no longer be kowtowing to the US
Who cares.
>SA is accepting refugees in response to the ban which was used as leverage
And yet I saw nothing about this in the news.
Amazing. Trump gets SA to do what Obama couldn't get them to do in 5 years, and no on bats an eye.

>>got btfo by a judge who had read the constitution
And the appeal to the ruling has already been applied. Maybe watch the news next time.
>SCOTUS doing anything about this other than BTFO when we control it

Yup, we're done.

You're clueless as all fuck.

>ban
>wall
>part of aca being undone
>foreign investors pouring in
>stopped TPP
>undoing NAFTA
>selected great SCOTUS pick

4 Years.
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>>721387975
All his nominations are inexperienced billionaires who are willing to do Trump's bidding and are often overtly hostile to the field to which they've been appointed (like the EPA). How can you possibly say any of them are remotely close to being good?

We'll learn the hard way that knowledge and expertise count much more than being a yes-person. Trump is a massive fuck up so far.
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>>721387753

You realize the dems are done, right?

2018 class 1 is up for grabs, and they have to defend 10 fucking seats in states Trump won.
GoP has to defend 1.
And there are even more in swing states.

If dems lose one more state government, then gop can pass amendments. Say good bye to birther citizenship and your flood of free votes.

He's already mentioned national voter ID law.

Add on to the fact that the SCOTUS is now red for the next 30-40 years.
And the other fact that the dems including retards like you are doubling down instead of looking at why you lost.

Between that and the fact you have no one to fucking run in 2020, and you faggots are done.

You have learned nothing. Keep whining on 4chan, though. I'm sure you'll come out ahead.
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>>721388188
>All his nominations are inexperienced billionaires

Facile argument.

This is how it goes
>REX IS EXON MOBILE MAN
>and? so what?
>HE'S A BILLIONARE DRAIN THE SWAMP DUDE
>Drain the swamp was about getting rid of corrupt politicians how is this like that?
>BUT HE'S A CRONY MUH GOLD MAN SACKS
>you mean a company he was apart of many years ago?
>BUT HE'S INEXPERIENCED DUDE
>ceo of exon mobile - a company that has to negotiate trade deals in foreign countries all the time and has to adjust to shifting political climates doesn't know about dealing with foreign countries

O i am a laffin

I bet next you're going to say Jeff is racist.
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>>721386215
Are you going to say Colin Powell wasn't an excellent Secretary of Defense?
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>>721388122
Some laws are unconstitutional. That's what this senior Bush appointee judge has found. This confirms my point that Trump does not know or understand the constitution.

>Who cares.
Well Trump needs Australia as an ally for the war he's about to start with China. Too bad that Australia doesn't want to cooperate any more.

>SA
South Africa? Wat?

You'll find too that Supreme Court judges care much more about the constitution than they do about the leanings of the president in any four-year period. They're not political hacks doing an autocrats bidding. The US is set up to prevent the legal system from being manipulated in this way.

>ban
Unconstituitonal and now reversed
>wall
Not being paid for by Mexico. If it happens, deluded Americans have to pay for it.
>part of aca being undone
With no replacement or alternative plan = retarded
>foreign investors pouring in
???? Stock markets are falling
>stopped TPP
I'll give you that, even if it will be destructive to America's economic interests
>undoing NAFTA
ditto
>selected great SCOTUS pick
Not approved yet and likely to be blocked indefinitely

Who's the retard now, retard?
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>>721386795

The funny thing is that people who are freaking out about what he's doing have know he was doing it for a very long time as well. He's so far as I can tell been honest and up front, used very simple language to explain it all. Not because he's dumb or were dumb, but because if you can't explain something simply you don't really understand want you're doing. Be he does. And he wants his understanding of what he's doing to be easily given to all Americans across all spectrums.
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He's off to a great start. This country is so used to socialist faggotry that regular government looks like fascism now.
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>>721388188
I like Betsy DeVos because of her stances on charter schools and vouchers. This is something the education system needs, whether the teacher unions want it or not.
The Labor Secretary is a brilliant businessman who understands how regulation kills small business and innovation.
That's why I like those two. They're outsiders who are knowledgeable about the fields themelves without being part of the problem.
Sometimes more politicians isn't the answer. Some of the best leaders this country has ever had haven't been professional politicians, or even lawyers. They've been business-people, generals, even farmers....people who actually live in the real worlds and know how to solve problems.
Also, I would be in favor of abolishing the following departments: Energy, Education, Commerce, Labor, and the Small Business Administration. They do more harm than good.
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>>721388726
Colin Powell was Sec of State, not Defense.
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>>721388878
>Some laws are unconstitutional.
My image is literally taken directly FROM the constitution. Are you retarded?

>Well Trump needs Australia as an ally for the war he's about to start with China. Too bad that Australia doesn't want to cooperate any more.

>China
>a threat

>South Africa? Wat?
Yup, clueless.
Saudi Arabia retard. Trump used the ban for leverage. Good thing you don't know what's going on.

>You'll find too that Supreme Court judges care much more about the constitution than they do about the leanings of the president in any four-year period. They're not political hacks doing an autocrats bidding. The US is set up to prevent the legal system from being manipulated in this way.

That judge literally abandoned 200 years of president to virtue signal. It says clear as day in the constitution that the POTUS has full autonomy over immigration.

>Unconstituitonal and now reversed
Wrong, the appeal has already been filed.
>Not being paid for by Mexico. If it happens, deluded Americans have to pay for it.
Wrong, foreign remittances, cutting of aid, and tariffs.

>With no replacement or alternative plan = retarded
>I'm a retard that hasn't looked at Rand Paul or Trumps website.

>???? Stock markets are falling
>stock market was at a record high and companies are building here
>i'm a retard that doesn't understand how the market works

>Not approved yet and likely to be blocked indefinitely
If they do that, then they got blown out in 2018.
They have no high ground here, as Chuck fucking voted for the dude earlier and the guy's background is flawless.

They lose their position of
>DO YOUR JOB

>Who's the retard now, retard?
You are, clearly.
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>>721388122
Diff anon here, I think us rights and us constitution applies to us citizens, as an illegal you have no right to travel freely nor unhindered here, shit we have to get searched to cross a boarder, get on a plane, go into some schools and even just to buy our tags in a courthouse... We can't be armed in certain places based on state laws that literally can't overturn the Constitution... But they whine that a temporary travel ban is unconstitutional on the foundation that non-citizens inherit the rights to USA rssidency.
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>>721388878
you realize the image he posted is an excerpt from the constitution right?

of course you didnt youre a fucking retard

>Who's the retard now, retard?
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>>721389299
Thanks for trying. You seem fairly unreflective, poorly informed, and without much perspective on these different political fields, kind of like you're 16 and have only been following political news for a few months. You also seem like you think that policy just creates itself. Seriously, the US needs an organized approach to basic fields like education, health, environment, defense, and treasury, and the like. Saying they should be abolished is not some witty outsider perspective. It's just ill informed.
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>>721389606

It's fucking perverted reading of the 1st and 14th amendments.

It's even been cleared up by the SCOTUS TWICE.

And you have 7 previous administrations of president here.

It's all bullshit, and it's going to get shut down. The ban will hold and people are doing to get crucified.

There's a fucking reason district 9 has an 80% lose rate against the fucking SCOTUS
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underrated first reply: >>721381740

Everyone knew he was this for decades before he ran for president. Why did you think he would be a different person in the Oval Office?
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>>721388960
>people who are freaking out about what he's doing
Another thing that's hilarious is that these people who are in hysterics over an immigration policy that they say will make Muslims hate us were nowhere to be found for the last 8 years while Obama executed bombing campaigns in 7 countries, killing thousands of innocent civilians. Do they think Muslims particularly like us to begin with?
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>>721389796

Not a single argument in this entire fucking post.

You just insulted him and then gave a vague answer without saying what was wrong with those picks.

fuck off back to facebook
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>>721389579
>My image is literally taken directly FROM the constitution. Are you retarded?

>>721389708
>you realize the image he posted is an excerpt from the constitution right?
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>>721386973
Repeal and replace is a semi betrayal. Republican issues with the ACA that lead them to want to replace it, and Trump voters that want to replace it aren't the same. Voters don't like the high cost, and republicans have an ideological issue.

I fucking hate Trump, he's a crooked slimy piece of shit, but if he came out with a public option, I'd suck his dick. Problem is he won't and whatever replaces the ACA WILL be a betrayal of his supporters.
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ill give him one praise he has stuck to his election promises
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>>721380978
I seriously dislike him, I live in Sweden and was raised in the US. Everything he represents I disagree with. Bush was the worst president and so far that stays the same but, I can for see him going worse.
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>>721389999

Your point?
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>>721387088
Remember when the banks almost collapsed and people lost lots of money? Dod-Frank was put into place to try and stop that from happening again.
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>>721387618
Not that anon, but I live in a small southern town (south of Savannah, Georgia) and I can assure you people like this exist.
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>>721390071

>Republican issues with the ACA that lead them to want to replace it, and Trump voters that want to replace it aren't the same.

Wrong. It's money. That's literally it.
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>>721390245
>Remember when the banks almost collapsed and people lost lots of money

How. Does. That. Effect. The. Middle. Class.

I'll say it again.
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>>721390330
Oh then it's all true then. Everyone who voted for him is missing teeth and inbred, thank you for your enlightening contribution.
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>>721389796
Meh, you're welcome to your opinion. It's because policy does NOT create itself that we need to cut some of the bureaucracy. I like Lincoln's take: "Government should do for people only what they cannot do better by themselves, and no more."
The Fed also needs to go, along with the TSA, Department of Homeland Security, National Endowment fo the Arts, and Public Broadcasting.
P.S. - Out of the 'basic fields' you mentioned, energy was the only one I put on the chopping block, and there is another agency that could handle nuclear. Energy is not needed, at least in its current form.
It's cool for you to disagree, though. I still love you.
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>>721380978
>>721380978
Wouldn't think actually get worse if he gets impeached? I don't like the idea of Mike Pence running things
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>>721390330
>>721390486

The actual people exist, but who the fuck thinks Trump is going to make them rich?

Who said this ever?
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>>721389999
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/chapter-12

>Constitution: The president can do X
>*Trump does X"
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW TRUMP HAS NO REGARD FOR THE CONSTITUTION WHAT A RETARD

(you)
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>>721380978
Eh, it's whatever. If he starts a war and we have to fight I'll probably die. I'm going to go through the ropes, find out who is an actual supporter of his regime during training, pretend to blend in, then turn the gun on them so fast when we're in battle.
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>>721384078

lol
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>>721389999
Sick quads.

>>721390341
It's not though. Republicans didn't co-operate with Obama, didn't ever come out with thier great alternative, and now they have repealed it.

Thing is, a lot of people will end up uninsured or paying more. The Donald J. Trump™ plans for healthcare are not going to fix it or make it cost effective. Republicans have an ideological issue with it, and Trump supporters don't wanna be ripped off. We spend like 1/5th of GDPon healthcare, and it's shit for do many people. My cousin in the UK gets free dental care, and doesn't have to pay for shit, it comes in at like 9% for them.

If Trump came out with a public option that could actually reduce costs and cover everyone, I'll forgive him his crookekedness.
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>>721390781

As if the military would actually take your acne ridden, pasty, asthma afflicted, fat ass.
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>>721389796
>the US needs an organized approach to basic fields like education
Right, because No Child Left Behind was so successful.
When will you statists wake up and realize that almost anything the federal government does is ineffective, inefficient, over-reaching, and too expensive?
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>>721390934
"we're gonna rebuild our badly depleted military"
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>>721380978
he is not good, dont like him much but he was the only option. he is a bitter medicine, if hillary won america would turn to shit and im not even american.
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>>721390900
>It's not though. Republicans didn't co-operate with Obama

I remind of two things.
>A. Obama had large majorities in the house and senate for his first two years? Why did he sit on his hands if the GOP was going to fight him.
>B. Several house dems argued against the plan as well; this is why the bill was so gutted.

>Thing is, a lot of people will end up uninsured or paying more. The Donald J. Trump™ plans for healthcare are not going to fix it or make it cost effective. Republicans have an ideological issue with it, and Trump supporters don't wanna be ripped off. We spend like 1/5th of GDPon healthcare, and it's shit for do many people. My cousin in the UK gets free dental care, and doesn't have to pay for shit, it comes in at like 9% for them.

The solution is clear and it's the same issue with college. They need to address the costs themselves and have the government stop footing the bill.

They need to abolish state lines with competition, get rid of shit like fee for service, advocate for healthcare saving accounts.

>If Trump came out with a public option that could actually reduce costs and cover everyone, I'll forgive him his crookekedness.
That's all I ask really.

I don't care about the people who disagree with him, but the people who want him to fail are just the biggest faggots. Why the fuck would you want your country to fail?

So thank you in that regard for at least being open.
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>>721391110

The military doesn't take fat neckbeards with heart failure.
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>>721390582
Southern anon here. I have heard this from people at my job (I work in a small hardware store). They think that because Trump is going to keep the immigrants away, we're all suddenly going to have a ton more money because the jobs will come back.
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>>721391404
Whoops, meant for >>721390600
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>>721380978
Whoa that anime Trump is impressive
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>>721389874
I'm with trump-senpai...
I will say even as a constitutionalist and a 24/7 armed civilian/sheepdog I'm not even ware of everything going on, but I've agreed with everything I am ware of, markets are intact doing well(I have some stocks) all over and jobs are flooding back in certain areas and the future looking bright.

Does take a genious to want a wall, block illegals and drugs, refine our laws to modern situations(incl. Terrorism, embargos, trade deals, immigration) and have them actually enforced. And to want to restore the Constitution and guard equal rights to all rightfull citizens.
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>>721391404
>>721391442

Then they're retards. The supply for unskilled labor will diminish and work and wages would be better, but they aren't getting rich.

They would likely get a 0% income tax, though.
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>>721381558
you are the man well said.
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>>721391593
Have you watch the George Carlin comedy special at all
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>>721391623
I'm aware of this, I'm just telling you, lots of more blue-collar rural white folk have fallen for Trump the same way a lot of blacks thought Obama would suddenly end all their suffering. They make up the uninformed masses of voters who win elections.
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>>721380978
He's probably not much better or worse than any other politician, but at least he's not one of them.
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>>721380978
I'm sure he some area of expertise. It's just too bad it doesn't apply to running a country.
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Trump is narcissistic, but he sincerely loves this country and had a deep seeded love for the America people. Trump is brilliant and will do a great job over the next 8 years.

Yes, 8 years.
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>>721391920

The same idiots who think he's going to deport ALL mexicans including citizens.

Oh well. What can you do.
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>>721392107
Yeah the American rich people is that the only people in your opinion because if you don't have money you're not people
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>>721392107

>Trump is narcissistic, but he sincerely loves this country and had a deep seeded love for the America people.

This, I thought this when I met the guy at a rally.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about his approach to foreign affairs. Republican presidents, regardless of their political savvy, tended to leave the rest of the world in awe by the time they finished.
I dunno how much business leverage Trump has, but I'd bet he wants to use it to its maximum potential.
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As a white girl, all the dark skinned thugs of many creeds and beliefs scare the shit out of me. Radical muslim refugees, entitled niggers, and feminists are fucking insane too, they have a warped view on the gendered experience for males vs females.

So trump makes me feel relieved, like i'm gonna be okay. And maybe everything will be more fun and filled with possibilities for me, and maybe men will be more kind once they don't need to hold onto their MGTOW shit.

Economically, i'm sure things will pick up. Maybe i'll actually live in a nice place. Make america more like norway or denmark.

But at the same time, I've been fighting homelessness for a while, and trump doesn't give a damn about me in that regard. And i'm on foodstamps, which he might get rid of. And I'm on state healthcare, i only work part time.

So i'm just not sure about trump. But i'm sure everything will be fine. Politically, i'm a Libertarian Transhumanist / Agorist of sorts.

I like that trump is kinda like "you gotta take care of your own first", but I always appealed to anarchist schools of thought and I gave alot of public lectures to promote an open border and stuff.

I'm sure everything will be fine.
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>>721392503
This almost baited me until I read it a second time. Good job, anon.
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>>721380978
Trump is fine to me. He's a nice person to hang out, I think.
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>>721392208
>>721392107
Wow - so a guy who has spent his life conning people and selling million dollar projects was able to convince you of something.

You ever wonder why US banks refuse to lend him money? Why he has to borrow from foreign banks?

And you fuckholes gave him access to the entire US economy.
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>>721392571
ty, my oc
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>>721392648
>And you fuckholes gave him access to the entire US economy.

mad? :^)
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>>721380978
Don't hate him, but see that he's a foundational narcissist and doesn't really care about improving things. He's not gonna fuck the country up, but things definitely aren't gonna get better. We're probably looking at another Reagan situation.
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>>721392850
But Reagan was teh greatest!!1! according to my dad and grandpa
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>>721380978
I think he could be really good to the US economy, but his negative contribution to the environment and the race relations between west/middle-east somewhat worry me.
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I'm reading a book called "Dangerous Personalities" and they have a checklist for various things. Dude was an FBI profiler. Under "Narcissist" they have like 110 questions. If you score over like 60 he considers that a "Dangerous Personality" Trump scored like 80. Probably would have been higher, but I can't confirm many things ( like how he treats family members, etc ).

>>721392828
>I let in a burglar and we got robbed
>u mad bro?

>>721392946
>>721392850
At least Reagan hated fucking Russians and Nazis.
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>>721392546
nice b8 m8
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>>721392997
>>721392997
I'm not sure how he can actually help the economy. Don't get me wrong , I'm all for "more jobs" I mean ... who isn't. But protectionism and trade-wars are ugly as fuck.

Also repealing all the banking regs from 2008 - that just seems like a disastrous move.

I don't know if you noticed, but congress has been passing rules so that certain committees CAN'T tell the public things. So like, the OMB has to review and report on ALL major changes that are proposed. Except now.. as of like a week ago, they are not allowed to review/report on financial impact of repealing Obamacare.

Sort of fucked up huh.
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>>721393094
>At least Reagan hated fucking Russians and Nazis

Exactly. My dad was sympathetic to Milo for getting punched. He was like "he was just exercising his first amendment rights."
I told him "like tea partiers did to Obama?" and he was like "there was never protesting against Obama"
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>>721393162
i'm being completely serious.

what about this seemed like i was baiting?
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>>721380978
like bush, he's probably a pleasant enough father and friend. more self centered. he's a terrible choice for president just on the basis of his personality and degrading mental faculties. much like bush he's run by his cabinet. I hope they're not floating him on too many downers for him to be capable of chimping out and firing the entire cabinet.
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>>721393376
He has a point. I mean it wasn't ok to punch Milo - even though I enjoyed it immensely.

But on the other hand - if you can't punch a Nazi... my grandfather is rolling in his grave...
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>>721380978
If he'd stop doing shady shit and actually keep his promises that he made to the people, I wouldn't give two shits about him.
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He's "dismantling" Dodd-Frank. You that act had some good parts and some shitty parts that hurt industry. Actually read the act, it's very long and detailed...
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>>721393501
He has never worked for anyone but his father. Think about that. He has never had a "boss". What makes you think his cabinet is calling the shots?

>>721393572
You know - I'd be pissed, but at least I would trust him. I disagree with typical republican shit ( tax cuts for rich, cut benefits, repeal regulations ) ... but I do think Trump had some good concepts. Bring back jobs. Penalize corps for leaving the US. But I think all we are going to get are some jobs in swing states that the taxpayers eat the cost for ( eg: 100 millions of tax cuts for US companies ).
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>>721393572
He's kept every promise, kind of like a monkeys paw grants your wishes. He's got the wall in motion, and has a plan for Mexico to pay for it. It's going to fuck you in the ass, but Mexico will pay for it eventually. He's keeping the Muslims out, nevermind that the area he's blocked haven't had any major terrorist activity, and the ones that have are ones where he has money. But there's no Muslims!
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>>721392546
what about this seems like i'm baiting people?

:c
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>>721393723
>>721393723
If he had even pretended to put SOME checks back in place he would look like a fucking hero.

It really bothers me that

1) his company owes 600+ million to a foreign bank
2) that bank has been penalized by the dodd-frank regulations
3) that same bank was just fined for laundering 10B Russian money

That is some serious fucking conflict of interest.
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>>721391775
Nope, I'm a fucked up personality,
24/7 gun carrying,(literally sleep and shower with a loaded gun), all media consumption is japanese anime and music, I only hear some of the situation based on my father being a news nut watching fox news. Then I research anything that interests me online, though most shit I don't care about either way.

>>721390781
Coming from a 24/7 armed sheepdog civilia, and as someone who instructs firearms and hand combat classes alongside people whoam have defended royal families and acting presidents, I think you have some serious mental health issues... Please feel free to kys or go into debt for your treatment because the idea of killing is not that simple and if it is for you then you have never been in a real fight for your life, take it from a civilian who has been in 2 firefights, it's not fun and there's no situation or property worth killing someone over.(I have, but only because it was nesecary)
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>>721393932
Tits or gtfo
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>>721393956
how do you feel about muslims
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i love trump.
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>>721393972
can't we just have a conversation.
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>>721380978
i like him. the only people who really don't like him are foreigners that will have to go the fuck back home! Hes not taking pay to be president and hes keeping jobs here. less shit from other shitholes and more american made. fuck yeah!
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>>721393954
Not his company anymore technically...
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>>721393782
he's incapable of leading. I suspect he thinks he is.
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>>721394139
rofl, ok. he isn't taking $200k a year because he will walk out of office 4B richer lol.
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>>721394289
>It is in a trust, but he is the beneficiary. Additionally, his Son is running it.. AND he can take back control at any time.

>>721394292
Probably . He's always lead in his mind. I think he can't take orders for shit.
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>>721393932
It sound like b8 because your okay with trump then claim you advocate open boarders and anarchy...
Polar opposites and being unsure of your standpoint would likely cause someone to reality check you, but we are wiser none the less...
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>>721393954
Number 3, basically. He's guilty of treason it seems? but we are gonna have to Capone it and get him on tax evasion.
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>>721394289
>>721394289
Some follow up:

While the president says he has walked away from the day-to-day operations of his business, two people close to him are the named trustees and have broad legal authority over his assets: his eldest son, Donald Jr., and Allen H. Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer. Mr. Trump, who will receive reports on any profit, or loss, on his company as a whole, can revoke their authority at any time.

What’s more, the purpose of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust is to hold assets for the “exclusive benefit” of the president. This trust remains under Mr. Trump’s Social Security number, at least as far as federal taxes are concerned.
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Since his election, there have been widespread calls for Mr. Trump to sell his assets and put the proceeds in a blind trust. He has resisted those calls, stressing that the president has no legal obligation to do so.
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>>721393954
>International company
>Uses international banks for international company.
Ya don't say...

US banks creat credit with no value and the only reason it hasn't crashed is because everyone wants it to live and keeps accepting worthless currency... Fuck money laundering we don't have money we use currency!
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>>721389796
wtf stfu u faggot
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>>721394846
I'm hoping that when solid evidence shows up, he gets blackmailed by republicans to step down ( for other made up reasons ). That way we don't look like the fuck ups we are, but we get him out of the whitehouse.

I'd like to see Manafort / Flynn brought up on charges if possible.

I'd like to see Hillary get a 1 year jail sentence for obstruction.

I wish that Pence wouldn't end up president in this scenario, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
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>>721393956
I would advise watching Fox, al Jazeera and BBC once a week to get a loose idea of the situation. It's mildly bad, but mostly just dumb.
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>>721395003
US banks won't loan to him for his US projects either.

You really don't see a conflict of interest with this situation?

Imagine if Hillary owed Saudi Arabia 600M dollars. How would that have gone down?
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>>721395054
fuck son I'm gay and I feel more comfy with Pence on the button
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>>721386536
>Including with fucking Australia.

Americans kill commies. What's the problem?
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who is that drawing of? Even young trump never looked like that.
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>>721395220
Yeah. I mean I think Donald is pretty progressive at some level, at least on most social issues. But yeah... I'd really like him to stop tweeting for a few weeks at least. Just you know - get work done, make press announcements, answer some questions...

I'd like to think if he really tried to launch nukes, someone there would just shoot him in the head.
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He is taking illegal immigration and our debt problems seriously. He has been in power for like 2 weeks and I have no idea why he is so hated but the vocal minority. The press have an obvious hate for him and I think this will hurt them much more than Trump.
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>>721395394

He's a cow man for sure.

All that money and he can't even stay in shape.
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>>721395410
I think he's completely indifferent to social issues and says whatever seems expedient at the time.
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>>721395046
Here's your (you)
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>>721380978

hard to get a good "valid" discussion going with all the paid shills
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>>721395588
dude, the shills aren't here. the shills are paid to motivate the base. pointless circular arguments on 4chan happen without any expenditure and would be a waste.
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>>721395430
-he is hated by the voting Majority
-he is a piece of shit reality TV show star and known conman with no experience of working in government, or even with a "board" on a company.
-he is, in general, an asshole

What's to like?

>>721395555
I've been following "The Donald" for years, just because he is New York personality. He is pretty liberal socially I think. But yeah - right now he'll do whatever makes sense.

>>721395588
we've been having one, until you showed up shillfag. The first person in the thread to mention shills is ALWAYS the shill.
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>>721395768
nah that guy is a shill. Putin still has his guys working. Plus the Breitbart teams and that /pol/ shitposting billionaire might be still going as well.

Hillary is the only one who you can be sure aren't shills anymore. She's fucking done.
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He is the lightning rod that takes the negative energy away from President Bannon.
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>>721395410
>I'd like to think if he really tried to launch nukes, someone there would just shoot him in the head.

really optimistic. you don't get put in the room if you have the imagination or will to do that.
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>>721395923
>>721395923
It's like we got the fucking MTV version of Bush/Cheney/Rove.. we got Trump/Bannon/Conway

You see how pissed cheney and rove are too? They are like older kids, whose younger siblings don't get punished because their parents have mellowed out.

>>721396021
Yeah I know. One too many Clancy books probably.
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>>721380978
I don't think opinions can really be neutral besides declaring yourself as uncaring, but here's my not-strongly-worded-or-ground-breaking opinion on Trump. I'll also preface this with the note that I didn't vote for president this time around. This election was the first I was allowed to vote in (17 and 8 months for the one before) and I didn't feel like any of the candidates addressed any of the issues that effect me or the people I care about.

All that out of the way, I can appreciate Trump for causing a total meltdown on the liberal side. Watching videos of rich, snooty, college age bitches crying all over each other and screaming about how they were going to kill themselves was hilarious. However, we're now a few months into knowing the outcome of the election and people are still fucking complaining. If there's one way this election has effected me at all, it's done so in showing me how completely biased the media I regularly absorb is.
1/2 I guess, I doubt anyone cares but fuck it.
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>>721380978

I don't like the travel ban, the antagonism with Iran, the wall and the stupid tariff he proposed to pay for the wall with.

I like him replacing Obamacare, his push for deregulation and most of his appointments.

And I love his Supreme court nominee.

Overall I give him a 6 out of 10, definitely an improvement over Hillary.
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>>721395555
Noice quads m8,
I still question why social issues are even a concern of the president, they have more important shit to do than add "make everyone happy" to the Constitution...
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>>721396204
>how completely biased the media I regularly absorb is.

That is a good lesson. If it makes you feel any better the "left" media isn't always that way. During the Iraq war they were sucking Bush's cock. And they tore the fuck out of Clinton back in the day. Before Clinton if some pres got his dick sucked no one cared.

>>721396293
Why are you for deregulation and his SCJ pick
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>>721396330
most social issues are just shit to energize your base into voting for your other bullshit:

>go to war in Iraq
>Say librals want gay marriage

ok, guess we will vote republican because I hate fags
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>>721396344
I've been a suicidal NEET for years, I'm actually pretty pumped to die if I can take some of you motherfuckers with me.
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>>721393520
Milo got punched?
I thought it was Richard Spencer?
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>>721396678
shit was it? I haven't been following it closely.
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>>721396678
Spencer got punched by an actual liberal, Milo paid some guys to get violent at his speaking engagement in Berkeley
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>>721396293
And that we are only 2 weeks in running on an incomplete staff.

Fuck the first 100 days we'll have half his campaign promises done by 6 weeks
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>>721380978
Hes the anti-christ and obama was the last president, when the solar eclipse of august 2017 hits the skies, you will all see how he has changed the USA beyond recognition , praise old slavic future seers
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>>721396785
I was disappointed to find out that both Dems and Repubs do that shit.

>>721396817
Just curious what do you consider to be his important campaign promises? What does he need to do to earn your vote in 2020
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>>721396743
It was Richard Spencer who got punched. (Twice)
Milo hasn't been hit by anyone as far as I know.

>>721396785
Proof?
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>>721396293
>>721396448

>Why are you for deregulation and his SCJ pick

Because most regulations don't actually protect consumers, labor, or the environment they serve the interests of huge crony corporations with good lobbyists, preserve monopolies, stifle out smaller competition and ultimately hinder economic growth. There are good regulations of course; but we have thousands and thousands of regulations and only a fraction of them are worth keeping.

>his SCJ pick

Gorusch is a constitutionalist and he generally opposes giving more power to the state. He's the closest thing to a Libertarian I could hope for.

Here's Gorusch's ruling in a case where some cops handcuffed a 13 year old for farting in class and he overruled a lower court that said it was okay.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/02/read-neil-gorsuchs-epic-dissent-in-a-cas
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>>721397095
ok thanks - I'm not really familiar with either.
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>>721397095
Twice? different people?
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>>721396621
Take your Walmart tackle box elsewhere, this isn't /a/ and we don't fall for b8 m8.

But in all reality, leaveus the fuck out of your suicidal bullshit, do yourself in quitely and leave nobody in pain but your family and friend, and for God's sake don't make a mess like Justin did...
I've cleaned shit like that and that carpet will never be use again.
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>>721396204
News outlets and shows that I used to believe were neutral now shock me in how one sided they are. More shocking than their bias though is the way they go about trying to sway your opinion. I've started noticing patterns in news reports. Nothing schizo, my tv isn't talking to me or anything, but the way people present news seems so calculated. I can't think of an actual example at the moment, but if I were to provide one it would look something like
>local doctors at the blah blah blah research center are cheering up kids by doing such and such
>and now we go live to Theresa at the airport
>Yes Tom as you know Trump's travel ban has left many stranded outside the country, I'm joined by Mrs. so and so, who says her husband, a local doctor from Iran who was here with a Visa, can no longer enter the country!

Maybe I am paranoid, but it just seems like night after night these outlets I thought were neutral use their presentation of current events as a way to make your brain associate Trump with hurting children or something.

>>721396448
Yeah I'm sure it gets that way regardless of who's in charge. Oh well, at least I notice it now.
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isnt it funny how liberals hate white people so much they'll punch a white guy like richard spencer.but not any of these black lives matter protestors or people like the ones who decided to intimidate voters in philadelphia
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>>721380978
You can't find any neutral opinions on him.

This man is extremely polarizing.
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Newfag here. When talking ACA, everyone loves to shit on Trump about repeal/replace. I say tough fucking shit. I've had health insurance on and off for years because of political shift. I lived.

My last job provided free health insurance to all employees as a union benefit. ACA goes into effect, company convinces union to withdraw health insurances as a benefit. Everyone's hours got cut, and anyone who had insurance that was a part timer lost it. I had to kiss my boss's ass and do jobs nobody else wanted to do in order to be worth 30+ hours and get insurance back. I was the ONLY person in my department outside of a supervisor that could boast such a "privledge".

So, in addition to many people losing health insurance, they are getting paid less, because all the big box jobs are intentionally giving everybody under 30 hours so they don't have to pay for health insurance per ACA. It's the same for new hires. People are now moor poor.

I got a new, better job. Guess what? That means I lost my insurance. Again. I worked my ass off to get promoted to a full time spot at this new non-union job and have just recently got health insurance back. Even without the union, the game is the same. They will do everything in their power to keep your hours down unless you're a restless, ass kissing maniac. And there's usually only room for one. Nobody talks about this one though.

So, from my perspective, so long as Trump and the republicans can eventually fix the problem with healthcare, I frankly don't give a fuck about what happens in between. Boo fucking hoo. We worker bees are used to it by now.
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>>721397323
I mean there was the case where 11 people saw him rape a child and then he paid them and they stopped saying that. it was probably a conspiracy for money on their part.
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>>721380978
He's a fucking asshole that will probably not effect my life.
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>>721397136
Yeah Gorusch seems ok - like at least hes not some crazy fucker.

>>721397136
I see deregulation as being completely pro-corporate, pro-monopoly, anti- "the common people". Corps don't give a fuck about people, and left unchecked are about the greatest threat to individual liberty I can imagine.

I do see how they can stifle smaller companies that try to compete ( for example dealing with some EPA regulations ).

>>721397323
>Yeah I'm sure it gets that way regardless of who's in charge. Oh well, at least I notice it now.

That is awesome man, seriously. BEing able to vet your information sources, and think critically about issues is one of the most important things _as a person_ that you can do - especially in this "information age".
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>>721397411
I'm just fucking schizo and need meds, frankly
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>>721397411

try saying "tough fucking shit"to the small business owners kiddo.parasites like yourself are why im glad the republicans and trump are in charge now,no more steak and lobster off the tax payers dime,work for your shit
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>>721397555
please get on them. I lost a friend who OD'd on H, because he turned to drugs to deal with his schizophrenia.

And you don't want to end up eating someone's face 10 years from now because god told you too.
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>>721397187
Yup, I couldn't find the video but here's a screenshot.
Both on the same day too.
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>>721397689
I'm on them now, actually directly because of obamacare. keeping it together, got a job
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>>721397361
They justified it because he's a white supremacist
I doubt they'd attack black supremacists like the black Israelites while they're preaching shit on NYC street corners though
Kek
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>>721397622
is this bait? No one gets steak and lobster on your dime. Spend some time in government housing dude, or living on foodstamps.

What cracks me up is people who don't even work ( eg 1% ) have convinced you that the poor people are the problem. It kills me.

>>721397780
that is awesome. Glad you are doing that...

Yeah I need obamacare too. Wife had a transplant, I'm on meds - no one will fucking cover us. We are both self employed. Not sure what to do.

Have you priced our your drugs bying overseas? That is what I did when I didn't have insurance. If ACA is repealked - you can negotiate health care with a provider, so you get covered for basic stuff - and they will NOT cover any mental health. But that way if you get hit by a car you are covered.. and buy your meds overseas / canada.
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>>721397361
Don't worry, cops do that just fine, right? I mean they shot and killed #BLM leader and left him in his burning car.
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>>721398142
given the prevalence of black-on-black crime, are you sure it wasn't some local?
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>>721397361
Seriously - wish I could punch some of those Zionist Jews right? And now we have them fucking running america again. It disgusts me.
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>>721397544

It depends on what you deregulate. Thinking about regulations as universally good or bad is irrational and sadly that tends to be the approach many people take.

As I said there are regulations that protect labor, consumers and the environment; but I'd say those account for at best maybe 20 or 30% of our regulations.

Most of them just keep people from starting small businesses and competing with the big boys. For example I saw a case where a woman wanted to teach people a class on how to apply makeup for plays and the state said she needed to pay $150,000 for a license to open a cosmetology college. Then there's the case of the FDA regulating Vape shops out of existence.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/01/trump-could-and-should-save-vaping-indus
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>>721396969
Close the border, minimize costs of government overall, increase military man-power and provide care for veterans who properly earned it.

Secondary to those: make trade deals nationally to allow more business jobs in the US, work towards opening the us passport to other countries for longer durations(japan for example), and generally lower or simplify taxes across the board.

I personally see some benefits financial and alliance wise in helping other countries with IT data and power infrastructure in many parts of the world, as well as aid to countries who need it can be done cheaply and do wonders for public image as a country. Oh and bolster the us-japan security treaty as it benefits us to have bases near s.e asia for many reasons.

Some of this isn't being discussed but hey we got 4 years to work this out.
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>>721398245
like 70% sure it was cops. I don't think it was just some local dudes. He lead the anti-cop rallies in Ferguson among other things.
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>>721380978
He's a fat orange narcissistic douche-bag
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>>721385359
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>>721398365
Thanks, those are some good points. When I hear Trump talking about deregulation I hear:

No EPA
No FDA
No Bank Restrictions

Those to me all seem like stuff that helps corps, and fucks the little guy.

anyway, thanks for intelligent conversation everyone I'm out.

>>721398441
thanks that is helpful to hear.
I'd like to see these:

>minimize costs of government overall, increase military man-power and provide care for veterans who properly earned it.

I think the border shit isn't really a big deal, and I live near the border. Not sure why people freak out about it so much. Seems like terrorism - white people need something to fear/hate.
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>>721398142

at least cops have the balls to get the job done.unlike the majority of white america
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ITT: everyone is too smart to reveal their ingenious master plan.
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>>721381558
>mfw our fucked economy is still the biggest in the world
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>>721398506
70% is an interesting figure to build a position on
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>president actually does everything he promised he'd do in his campaign
>people complain

America in a nutshell
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>>721399134
one of the reasons the crash is going to be so nasty for the rest of the world.
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>>721399312
people were complaining pretty loudly about him making the promises too
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>>721380978

Absolutely unbiased, objective observation here.

Fist, let's get out of the way that he won on his own merits. He didn't. He won the Republican primary because he wasn't Jeb Bush, and he used every bit of his airtime up to the Iowa caucus making fun of and berating Bush. It helps that many americans don't really want a political dynasty of three people from the same family, and let's be honest, Jeb might be the most expensive crayon in the box but he's not the smartest. It was a brilliant strategy, because the RNC but ever single egg they had into the Jeb Bush basket and after he got trashed in Iowa there was no clear secondary candidate to rally behind. There was thoughts of an upset at the convention but it didn't manifest, so he easily got the nomination.

Flip to his opponent, Clinton. Believe what you want about Republican propaganda, but the simple fact is this lady, even if she didn't do anything wrong, is shady as fuck. Her foundation, her husband meeting the AG by accident on the eve of her possible indictment, 'extreme carelessness'....then you had real, solid proof of the DNC rigging the primary drop the week before the convention, and instead of fessing up they ignored it and forced her nomination anyway, completely eliminating their support from a newly mobilized group of young and independent voters that wanted to turn the party from corporate globalism to really anything else.

It's a long winded way of saying Trump is President right now because the other candidates he went up against were trash.

Now, here's some facts: he's pro-business, but specifically american business, and that pushes a lot of his agenda. Science denial (bad), neutering the EPA and Parks service (bad), withdrawing from TPP (objectively good), renegotating NAFTA (arguable but probably more good than anything), changing H1-B visas (extremely good), deregulation all go under this. I think it's too early to tell the impacts to citizens from this.
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>>721399092
christ man I feel like an idiot. I've obviously been sheltered and considered the other side to be a tiny minority of crazy people instead of this huge mirror-world america
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>>721398847
I live in Georgia, we have a population in Atlanta that has a huge problem with illegal workers and construction, labor, driving, and even skilled technician fields get taken by illegals simply cause they can do the job cheaper...

I noticed this working concrete pouring, road work jobs, gutters and metal roofing, and as a certified electrician, it's not that the illegals are dangerous or mean or feared but more or less they are making a substantial part of our workforce and sending the money back to Mexico tack that with drugs and possibility of easy entrance by people via Mexico who could do us harm and it quickly becomes a big deal for alot of people...
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>>721399583
on the plus side, now the Democrats actually might be anti-corp.
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>>721400011
breddy good powerlevel there friendo.
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>>721380978
I guess I'm happy he's stopping the illegals from coming in, but that's literally the only good thing I can say about him. I think he's an ass.

>>721381558
This guy has it right, the people are to blame.
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>>721399583

Same poster.

Unfortunately, that's where the good pretty much ends. He's got Bannon in on pretty much everything (that guy.....has said some real shit.) He's pro religion in politics as you'd expect from a Republican, which isn't great. He'll support a pro-life agenda which is objectively bad but subjectively ambiguous. His cabinet picks are complete and utter trash with the exception of Mattis, undisputable. It really seems he just sold the spots at auction. Rick Perry for energy? DeVos for Edu? That other science denier for the EPA? You can't make a good argument for them.

A wall? Objectively bad idea. It's expensive and ineffective. But props to him for delivering on the campaign promise.

Muslim ban? Objectively, it's good. We probably son't need more Muslims over here, see Europe for the nationalist conservative fervor over there because they are beginning to lose their ways of life. From an objective standpoint we can see the same thing here eventually. Where he's messed up is he didn't ban ALL the Muslim countries, just ones that aren't friends with the Saudis. So overall, bad move.

The whole Israel thing, threatening to leave the UN if they aren't allowed their way, is bad. The whole Israel-Palestine thing needs to be resolved ASAP, and as much as I'd love to see Palestine wiped off the map personally a compromise must be met and Israel needs to obey the UN laws as an occupying power until then.

I'm sure I missed something but nobody cares so i'll stop typing now.
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Sheepdog dude here...
Thank y'all for making /b/ great again, it hasn't interested me in months.
And apologies for my lack of of paraphrasing.(maybe I type to much?)

Pic related - another quality manga trump
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>>721399819
So your argument is with those whom employ illegals and not with the illegals themselves. Good to hear someone's got some sense about them.
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white milk nationalism is on the rise.
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>>721399825

Unfortunately they seemed to have learned nothing from the 2016 election cycle.
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>>721381558
you do realize that more than half of all people who voted DIDN'T vote for him.

#notallamericans
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>>721384373

What about Deez Nuts?
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I love our Awesome new President
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HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
KEK
THE RISE OF WHITE MILK NATIONALISM
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>>721400482

One last thing i'll add. Even if he does crazy shit and gets impeached, Pence takes over, he still gets a Supreme court nominee, and both houses and most governorships still belong to the Republicans, so they'll still push the same agenda but much, much more quietly.
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>>721400928 Trump is the greatest thing to happen to our government and country in decades
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>>721380978
That tie needs to be longer.
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HE WILL NOT DIVIDE WHITE MILD NATIONALISM!
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>>721397622

Pardon? I'd dare to say that even my big box, shady ass bosses would call me anything but a parasite for the kind of work I put in dude.

I don't understand your point, because if I were working for your small business in a world without ACA, you'd be under no obligation to provide me insurance as a benefit if I'm not mistaken. And if you were now, that's all the more reason you'd want to see ACA gone and make sure that my work would be well worth your money, which it would be. Sounds to me like you just hate having to pay employees. Maybe you should cut back on your work load so you can afford to fire some people, or give up get a day job.

Parasite. Sure. Which is why I'm out there busting my ass and not taking state or food stamps. I happily own the cheese in my fridge. 'Fuck yourself.
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WHITE MILK NATIONALISM IS ON THE RISE
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HE WILL NEVER DIVIDE WHITE MILK NATIONALISM!
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>>721380978
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#MAGA
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KEK
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White milk nationalism is on the rise
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>>721387753
>I bet the electors won't even vote for him!

>No way he can win.

You and your fellow retards have been so prescient lately.
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>>721400525
Exactly, I dont have an issue with people, or people that work for cheap. My issue is when the illegals come in and have an entire crew for 25/h and I cost 14-16/h and they would rather hire sketched out workers whom will hide or run from liability because they are illegals...

And its not fair to anyone that I have paycheck taxes and they don't because they get paid cash, it makes for illegitimate business, dangerous workers(in some cases, less than 15%), and liability that cant be founded by illegal workers but could get pined on me when a steel roof panel falls and kills someone.

pic is about 60' in the air on a big-slide funnel(for outset windows) where moments later an illegal collapsed and slid into me nearly knocking both of us off the roof... Fucking idiots don't bring water and I've saved at least 2 in the 6 months I was working for that company.

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These two along with Obama should be arrested and tried for high treason, among many others.
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>>721400696
Feels nice to have a President who actually loves his country.
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>>721403542
>The only people who hate him are people who hate America

Pure coincidence.

I challenge any of you commies to prove me wrong.
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>>721403736
so true
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>>721400928
Such a powerful man.
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>>721382170
stay mad, $hillbot.
stay real mad.
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>>721403823
True about the only people who hate trump are the people who hate America. Trump IS AMERICA #MAGA
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>>721380978
Better than Obama. That's the minimum so really anyone could meet it.
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he is ok. he will probably be the worst president in recent history but not cause a nuclear war.
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>>721403481
MAGA my brotha'
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>>721403736
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>>721381558
>dumb and TV addicted
>when the entire media was shilling for Hillary
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>>721403323
So i guess I'm in the middle, if they do the job right and safely then i don't fucking care where they are from or their culture, my issue is that I get replaced with two of them for a few bucks less and I can't even work in some places because they prefer Hispanic workers, I was 1 of 4 English speakers at that company, 2 of the 4 were fluent in Spanish(including the owner). So it made for a difficult training enviroment and alot of saftey stuff was totally ignored and nearly caused accidents on a regular basis.

Hammers and tools dropped, 80+lb panels thrown from roof with razor sharp edges, hell even a 2' corner piece would easily slice 5-6 inches down your shoulder, arm or back if it hit you from 10' or higher up.

Not to mention having 4 guys balance strait vertical a 60' 230lbs 4 section ladder while someone climbs in to lower the higher portions(equipment did not have a usable pulley system for lowering, or stability legs)

so its a mixture, its not the people demographic, its the pay-rates, non-compliance with safety, and language barrier that really hits me. but thats all part of business, nothing personal, If I could cut costs and get it done I would, but not at the expense of fellow Americans first.
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>>721404042
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>>721404152
but exactly that needs more aggressive enforcement, not a "hands off, less regulation" philosophy. the wall is a sham to shut up people with serious concerns and make it look like something is being done.
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I think everyone on /b/ is stupid as fuck for supporting him. I don't care for anything he does except trying to blurr the line for church and state.
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>>721403961
So true.

Pity to see the anti-American protesters - soon their rabble-rousing will have an appropriate response.
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>>721404254
He's a gift from God for our country, and prob the world.
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>>721404437
Yeah trump wants to shut down sites like this. So why the fuck does everyone support him?
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>>721404437
Deus Vult, brother.
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>>721404437
Ugh still on that Muslim ban line huh?
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>>721404437
>loser detected
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>>721386112
You hated Bush Jr. but wanted someone immensely more bloodthirsty and hawkish than Bush Jr.?
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his stance on net neutrality is jacked
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>>721404494
This. so fucking hard.
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>>721380978
We will need to enact the Trump exception to the 22nd Amendment in about 6 or 7 years. This process takes a while, so we are starting now.
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>>721404820
he is literally against the concept of being Anonymous. but anons love the bastard
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>>721404057

fucking samefag (possibly 2)

people are having a great discussion board and you come in here to Spam relentless bullshit we all stopped viewing facebook and ig to escape...

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