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Why USA wants to feel unique and different?

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Why USA wants to feel unique and different?
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BECAUSE AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
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>>721228321
yea um come back and all this when the rest of the world is no longer imitating most of our culture
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>>721228429
ask*
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Never been in a building like this and let me tell you I've been in a lot of buildings
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>>721228241
WHY PROGRAMMER WANTS TO FEEL UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT???
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> 9 out of 11 cant see the (...).jpg
holy fucking shit, now thats funny
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>>721228559
>java
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>>721228241
Because when the US earned independence from England they decided to do everything different.
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>>721228531
I've really wanted to get into more buildings. How have you gone about doing it?
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Perhaps when we started building skyscrapers over a hundred years ago they didn't want to tell people it's 50 floors but then add on because the ground floor. Instead you just count 1-100 like normal logic if you bother to use numbers. People still use ground floor as an alternative sometimes but it's never the official title.
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>>721228241
just to be a dick
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>>721228665
Then why do we still use english imposed measurements when everyone went metric?
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>>721228831
they arent english units theyre american
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>>721228559
Military does this shit too, shit that should be #1 starts off as #0
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>>721228831
Because we spent HAVE to change anything. However we changed our official measurements to metric in the 70's. The govt uses it but the people don't because they don't have to.
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>>721228831
The UK isn't fully metric. It's kinda happening, but it's a generational thing.

Or an industry thing. Plumbers still use imperial.
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>>721228241
I see your confusion. we have an actual floor on the bottom level instead of bare ground
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>Ground Floor
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>>721228559
actually, that goes the same way as the ground/first/second floor in OP's picture.
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Would a basement be referred to as "underground floor"?
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>>721228987
i wouldnt put it past an american to actually think that
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>>721228559
Because every programmer knows that counting from 1 like in Fortran or Matlab sucks even more.
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>>721228241
you see anon, the steps go directly to the first floor. under the first floor is the ground floor
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>>721229089
Basement is basement. Unless there's more than one then it's -1, -2, etc.
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>>721229089
It's refereed to as a basement you... you... European.
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I was running a race and looked behind me- I had done it. No one was behind me. I was going to win.
Felt so good to break the tape and come in ground place.
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>>721228241
There's no need to want to FEEL superior when we KNOW we are.
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>>721229089
Look up the definition of "basement". What floor does it say it's under?
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>>721229069
SEE >>721229014
IT'S A SEMANTIC ISSUE, NUMBERS DON'T SUFFER FROM SEMANTIC AMBIGUITY THEREFORE THE U.S. NOMENCLATURE IS SUPERIOR

CHECKM8 FAG HAHAHAHA
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>>721229245
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>>721229296
"a partly or wholly underground storey of a building, esp the one immediately below the main floor "
Motherfucking dictionary paying word games again.
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>>721229353
-2 -1 0 1 2 3 . where is your "first" floor in this list?
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>>721229447
It's "main floor" from now on everyone. Get the light on your way out, please.
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>>721228987
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>>721228241
>feel
Not a "feel", just the way things worked out.
FYI, it makes one hell of a lot more sense to call the "First Floor", "First", as consistent with the same usage on "Second", "Third", etc.

What doesn't make sense is to call it "Ground" floor. Notwithstanding its terminology being inconsistent with the other floors, it also just so happens that the "ground" floor is not necessarily on the ground at all. Indeed, a substantial percentage of buildings in cities have no "ground" floor at all as the basement is half below ground, half above. Also, many improvements have no "ground" floor at all and for a number of structural or environmental reasons (low bearing capacity soil, flooding, stilts, pylons, etc.), and also due to code requirements or easements such as allowing foot or auto traffic to pass on the ground floor, it makes absolutely no sense to use such antiquated and naturally-inconsistent nomenclature as "ground" floor.

Hint #2: Grow up. 90% of the "English" system, including forcing the retarded standard metrics on the U.S. is ass backwards. But that's the English for you. Do it wrong. Do it different. Claim you are the best. History has consistently proven the English to be the biggest fuckups on the planet. Half the world's problems are due to English colonization anyway. Ironically, there is no such aftermath from French, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese colonization, etc.

The English are and always have been a complete bunch of fuckups, yet our (yes, I'm English) system of schooling brainwashes us to think we invented everything and are so great.

After years of traveling the world, I have a bit of perspective and feel most sorry for my mates.
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>>721228241
From an Irish persons point of view this "Ground, First, Second floor" bullshit is retarded as fuck.the ground floor is the first floor, leave it that way.
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>>721228241
I'm in the US and I've never heard of the ground floor being called the first floor.
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>>721228559
Because the Index indicates the offset from the first field
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>>721229582
First as in One. on top of Zero. which is a valid number in any logical system.
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>>721229582
>Half the world's problems are due to English colonization anyway
>be an English colony
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>>721229656
yeah, but >>721229480
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>>721229729
>English colonization
Can't say it's wrong, tho. See Paki and various other indians immigrant.
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>>721228948

Just because you met one plumber, and he used imperial it doesn't necessarily follow that all plumbers use imperial.
Plumbers leaving college today work only in metric. The UK has been fully metric since 1971, when decimal came into effect but the individuals preference will still come to the fore, particularly in instances where imperial was the method of education. Interestingly, supply pipes are measured in metric (15,22,28mm etc) but waste pipe is still referred to predominately in imperial terms(inch and a quarter, inch and a half etc), however this is changing slowly to 32mm and 40mm.
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>>721229480

"FIRST" = 1st = 1
ZERO ≠ FIRST
-2 ≠ FIRST

A BUILDING FLOOR IS A REAL LIFE OBJECT NOT A PROGRAMMING ABSTRACTION YA PLONKEH LEL
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>>721229810
tell that to your lift next time.
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>>721228241
The ground is a floor. It is the first floor encountered in a building. It's both the first and the ground floor.
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>>721228666
Checkered, satan

Also, the best way is to look for doors. *Usually* when you walk through doors you will be in a building. I've never actually tried it, but many people do have success with this method
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>>721229657
then you must live in some one horse town with a population of 200 full of 2 story buildings with a street actually named "main street"
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>>721228321
/thread
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>>721228886
They're litterally called "imperial"?
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>>721229886
AMERICAN ELEVATOR:

>5
>4
>3
>2
>GROUND FLOOR

YES IT SAYS "GROUND FLOOR" BUT THE NEXT FLOOR UP SAYS
>2
IMPLYING GROUND FLOOR IS
>1

ANY MORE STUPID QUESTIONS KIDS??
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this >>721229582
a floor is defined as the lower surface of a room on which one may walk

outside of basements, which are below ground, obviously the "first" floor is the floor you would FIRST step onto when entering a building, hence "first"

it makes no sense to call the second story of a building (by architectural standards) as the "first" floor

ass backwards english again
as always

maybe because they need to take a "lift" (elevator) while eating "biscuits" (cookies)

dumbasses
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>>721229923
There is also a key to unlocking locked doors.
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>>721229657
maybe move to an actual city, Jethro
do they have indoor plumbing in the next town near you?
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>>721229957
Actually no. NJ not too far from NYC. AFAIK, the floor above ground level has always been called the first floor here.
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>>721230076
So is the whole earth the 1st floor?
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>>721228241
What do they call basements in the UK? Underground Level? Oh wait, I remember now, 'place to hide'
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>>721229886
I live in major metropolitan area in a 12 story high rise. The buttons in the elevator say "1-12".
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>>721229582
. . . the only correct response

/thread
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>>721230172
Jersey? Fuck, it's even worse than I thought.
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Why is it always eurofags who start these? Because Americans don't give a shit about what you all are doing, while America is pretty much all you guys think about
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>>721228241
When you're counting things do you start at 0 or 1?

I rest my case
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>>721229886
What the fuck is a lift? Use real words
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>>721229657
really? how are the rooms in a building numbered where you live?
are the ones on the ground/first floor numbered 101, 102, 103... or g1, g2, g3...?
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>>721230182
Basement. Or cellar, depending on what's kept in it and how it's accessed.
Out of interest, what would I be hiding from in my (correctly named )cellar?
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>>721230172
Lol. You are retarded. I live in Jersey.
1st floor is the floor on the ground level everywhere in the world, including, yeah, Jersey
only brits use ground floor to describe first floor, and call the second floor the first floor
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>>721230046
>>721230222
actually, i was referring to "A BUILDING FLOOR IS A REAL LIFE OBJECT NOT A PROGRAMMING ABSTRACTION YA PLONKEH LEL"

Your freaking lift is doing the translation "-2 -1 0 1 2 3" to "B2, B1, 'First Floor', '2F', '3F'" when you take it, you overweight pansy.
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>>721230222
>storey
>lift

Ftfy
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>>721230176
the "earth" is not a "floor" at all
how dumb are you that you have to twist reality and argue the absurd in an effort to appear to be right?
grow up
half the shit you think you "know" is wrong
get used to it, kid
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>>721230475
>everywhere in the world
Nope
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>>721228241
I recognise that house
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.2054925,0.1261788,3a,75y,127.42h,101.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC166tvdlq3qo_5U3Fy3WMQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
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>>721230523
I heard they can't even make a left turn in NJ. They have to make 3 rights.
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>>721228241
true story from Boston USA

>cops planning on raiding drug dealer
>informant is from UK
>"blimey govn'r, the guy you're looking for lives on the first floor"
>cops raid the first floor apartment (USA first floor)
>minister who lives there has heart attack
>drug dealer who lived on second floor disappeared
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>>721230626
lol, I'm actually from France (wait, that's better, right?)
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>>721230632
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because when we count we say 'one two three' not 'ground one two' fucktard
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>>721230724
Yeah, France is better than New Jersey and I fucking hate France.
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You have to admit floor 1 makes more sense than "ground floor"
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>>721228241
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>>721229804
How many stone do you weigh?
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>>721230076
The first floor as in 1 floor above the GROUND. When you are on the first floor, you are one level above the ground. When you are on the second floor you are 2 stories up. Why the fuck would you want those numbers to be unrepresenative of the number of levels above ground? With Ground/Main floor being approxiamately level with the earth
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>>721230475
Now that's some high level horse cockery. Even Canada uses ground or main floor most of the time (only place ive seen otherwise is university of calgary)
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>>721230831
yeah, but you've never been to france and i only got to SanFrancisco (and Quebec, but fuck'em). So who knows?
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>>721230365
not all of us are amerifags
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>>721230356
It's not a matter of counting things. It's a matter of naming things. Ground floor is self explanatory. First floor is just that. It's the first floor above ground level. What would you call the level between the basement and the first floor if you were counting them? The nought floor? Are you mental? Who the fuck calls the ground floor the nought floor? Fucking Americans, can't even get ground floor right, even with all the clues and the internet to help. No wonder cave dwelling sand niggers foiled you nations defences and managed to park their airplanes in Manhattan.
>US not too bright
>call ground floor nought floor
>get rammed by airborne Arabs
>all the floors fall
>¿
>profit
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>>721229205
lol
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>>721228241
as if the english can lay claim allowing a plant to over grow a building??????????????????????????????
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdMfciMgfCk
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>>721230582
Umm, he's essentially right.
Misnaming the first floor (which is actually the "first" actual "floor" you step onto when entering a building) as the ground floor and then calling the next storey above it the second floor originated in England as a tax evasion trick created by the English to avoid English common law tax codification which assessed tax explicitly by the enumeration of "first" floor, "second" floor, etc.
Prior to the tax evasion efforts, the English in fact used the term "first" floor for the ground level floor. Because they exported this same odd nomenclature during their period of colonization, other parts of Europe followed and the colonies adopted the same.

The trend has been to go by the natural nomenclature of "first" actually being the first "floor" (ground floor you first walk on when entering a building, which is the actual first floor), and the old tax-evasion common usage of calling the second floor the first floor is increasingly becoming extinct.

It really never made sense anyway when you think about it.

tl;dr
Most of the world calls the floor you enter into on a building from the ground as the "first floor" and no one has to do math and subtract out stories above to figure out your elevation otherwise.

You saying "Nope" as a response just proves you are a dipshit.
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>>721231230
>nought
really? can't you Brits use real words instead of making shit up?
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>>721230934
I weigh 12 stone 3lbs
I'm 6'2"
I have 32" waste and a 34" inside leg
I shoot you with my 9mm
I'm so confused
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>>721231535
that's a lot of non standard units you are using here.
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>>721231535
>I have 32" waste
say no more. please. say no more.
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>>721231470
and by most you mean "everywhere i have been", aka "the US of fucking yeah A"
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>>721230949
Dude, you just don't get it because you've been indoctrinated into britschoolmindfuck.

What you said is only logical if you start from your fucked up premise of having the first floor not actually be the first floor you step on when entering a building.

Hint: it's a "floor". Your fucked up "first floor" is the first ceiling, which first ceiling makes the floor below it--necessarily the first floor. And again, logically it is the FIRST floor you walk into on an building.
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>>721231629
32/32 here. got a problem with it feggit?
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>>721231470
That's definitely the gayest, look how clever I am, hand up in class, I know I know pick me pick me pick meeee thing I've read here for a while.
You are dull and will die a virgin.
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>>721231218
Correction, not all of us are fortunate enough to live in the best country in the universe
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>>721228241
I prefer the US method. The ground floor is still a floor, and it IS the first one.
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>>721228241
Because initially not everyone in america was british. When you enter a building from the street, that is the first floor.
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>>721231742
Ahhh, but what if you have multiple entrances to a building and one entrance is a level below the other. Which is the "first floor"?
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>>721228321
Not if your'e a nigger faggot.
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>>721231783
Don't you think shitting a 32" "waste" constitutes a problem?
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>>721232097
i'm guessing the lowest "above ground" one, which would be "0" on the elevator panel.
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>>721231783
I believe Gaylord took the misspelled 'waste' instead of 'waist' to be note worthy and summoned all her smug intellectual scoffosity to make a funny.
Another fatso that'll die alone in a masturbation related accident. Probably very near the fridge.
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>>721231936
British people invented the computer, and switched to zero indexing their floors to better the programming of elevators. In the US they need to dig a basement whenever there is an elevator because of this. It is a huge problem.
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>>721232219
i'm not so sure that was intentional.
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>>721232188
Or "lower level", or "nought" like our Brit friend.
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>>721229985
yes but the measurements are totally different to UK imperial for everything except feet and inches

for example, a gallon the in UK equates to a strong, well received 4.5 litres. a US gallon, on the other hand, is a pathetic, girly 3.8 litres, most used for measuring out your daily semen intake.
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>>721228241
For once I got to say that their naming is logical, more so than UK Version (or German, which is similiar).
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>>721232438
which is even funnier when you think the colonists are about 2gallons of coke per day.
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>>721229090
you could not put it past me, I was a linebacker in college
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>>721232438
Weights as well fella.

A normal British person weighs a healthy happy 9 stone. A typical septic weighs 264lbs and dies of diabetes at an early age.
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>>721228946
>because they dont have to
No, because the average american is dumb as shit.
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>>721231823
So you admit you are dumb?
Glorious win!

Run along dumbass!
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>>721232438
Said the Brit whose country was the home of Stephen Milligan.
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>>721232756
>126 lbs
Hobbits?
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>>721232097
>multiple entrances
>one entrance is a level blow the other

fucking what?

why are you arguing the exception
that you need to speaks volumes to how wrong you are
also, no one even knows what you are talking about anymore
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>>721232942
I guess women and children are factored in, also explaining the low American numbers
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>>721228241
How can you call it a ground floor then call it the First Floor after? Calling it the First Floor is implying it's the first of its kind nullifying the existance of a Ground "Floor". Under this logic it should just be called Ground. BTW Fuck Trump.
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>>721233055
Exactly
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>>721230356
You start at 0 and count to 1.

You have no apples, then 1 2 3 4, You have 4 apples.

You start at floor 0, then 1 2 3 4, 4th floor.
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>>721230523
LMAO LISTEN CLOSELY M8

THE NUMBER OF LEVELS ON A BUILDING IS *NOT* AN ABSTRACTION.
THE NUMBER OF LEVELS ON A BUILDING ARE OF REAL LIFE PHYSICAL QUANTITIES.
THERE IS SIMPLY NO "ZERO"TH FLOOR. THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND. ZERO = NOTHING. THERE IS NO NOTHING FLOOR LOL.
YOUR ELEVATOR ARGUMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A STRAW MAN AND DISPROVES NOTHING ABOUT THE LOGICAL SUPERIORITY TO AMERICAN FLOOR NOMENCLATURE OVER THE UK.

CHECKM8 YET AGAIN GOOD LAD
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>>721228241
we just naturally became better than you, its science bro
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>>721232780
Because they don't know metrics? Or because they shitpost on /b/ about their country's intelligence?
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>>721233006
Calm down Stanley.

Look at pic attached. Door on right opens to what some may say "first floor" while if you look at the building from the right side, it's the second floor.
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>>721232780
LOLUMAD
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>>721233262
I love how your capslock tells me to take it into consideration.
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>>721228645
>only java uses arrays
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>>721233444
>HAVING NOTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT AT HAND

CHECKM8 INDEED LMAO
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>>721233446
LOL IKR WHAT A STEWPID PETTY TWAT
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>>721232263
Oh, fuck you. You think you're clever don't you?
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testing link function in replies
>>721233558
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>>721233523
Well, to be fair, you did not bring anything new to the discussion.
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Are all Americans Autistic or is /b/ just a terrible sample group and it's actually just around 90%?
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>>721228241
Because if you enter a place on a floor other than the first floor, is it really a "first" floor?

sorry for using logic britfags
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>>721233801
I don't think anyone on /b/ is gonna find the cure for cancer. No matter what country.
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>>721233852
/thread
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>>721228241
yeah.
Something I noticed yesterday too while playing LA noire.
they name their apartments as "1,2,3,4,5" etc.
here it's per floor, 1R/1L,2R/2L,3R/3L etc.
wondering if it's like that in all of Europe?
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>>721234213
sometimes we use XYYY with X the floor and the rest a count of the appartment (ie 502 is the second on the fifth floor - that's the sixth for americans, ofc)
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Canada's solution
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>>721234421
That made me laugh.

If your national anthem wasn't so awesome, I'd fucking hate you moose fuckers.
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>>721231823
That is definitely the most, "look at how I can be cool and not care", tryhard, ignorant post I've seen in some time. The equivalent for someone like you is to put it into fighting terms.

>That kid that got the shit beat out of him and talks shit about how he "didn't want to kill the guy", so he was "holding back".

Face it, you got trounced on a subject you don't know fuckall about.
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>>721234421
Germany's solution
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>>721233230
There's no floor when you walk into a building? That's not a floor? Why is it called a "ground floor" by brits, then? Wouldn't that be the first floor encountered upon entry to a building?
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>>721234421
Lots of American elevators (lifts, if you're a faggot) have the same numbering system. G and 1 are synonymous.
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>>721234685
Is it final?
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>>721233523
>Being this autistic

Wew lad. You're such a massive faggot. Also, is your caps-lock broken?
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>>721234959
Shindler's Lift

I guess that only works if you're from the UK.
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>>721234799
>start at zero and count to 1
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>>721228241
US makes more sense tbh
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>>721228241
The first floor is the 1st floor you encounter when going into a building through the main doors.
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>>721235936

The floor number should indicate how many floors you have to rise (from ground-level) in order to reach it
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>>721231742
>what is a pedway
Seriously, we have elevators to go to any specific floor without stopping, how is it justifed? Do you call the first road you drive on in a city "1st street"?
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>>721234799
No it's the first floor ABOVE the ground. Otherwise the first level above ground is the Second Floor. It's a graph, the ground floor is level with the ground (x axis) with the floors counting up based on how many units above the origin
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