>He'll never be elected!
>Ok, b-but the Electoral College will vote against him!
>O-o-ok. B-b-ut he'll never build a wall!
>Wall already being fast-tracked.
Feeling fucking stupid yet, liberals?
Ahead of Schedule and Under Budget: Army Engineers Begin Work on Trump's Border Wall
You're just going to keep shilling that conservativedailypost article?
Not only is he doing what he said he would he also got a bunch of lazy fucks out of the house for the first time in 10 years go Trump keep up the good work
>They recently spoke with representatives from the Army Corps of Engineers and the Interior Department, ordering a study to see what kind of walls are recommended, how many miles we need to cover, and what the costs are projected to be.
Ah, I see. That's alt-facts for "work has begun"
No, as an engineer I'm just commenting that it was phased as "work has begun" rather than the more realistic "planning has begun".
The language is chosen to give the impression that ground is being broken - the planning can be done and nothing may yet emerge. Typical politician's spin
(cont) and you also just have to look at the pictures in the article - all feature construction workers. Yes, I know you can't easily depict the planning process in a photograph, but showing construction workers with walls in the background is chosen to give an impression that the wall is actually being erected. Spin - the exact same thing he said he was against.
Oh, wait....it's "alternative facts", not spin.
Yes he did, on the campaign trail. he was telling the audience that he'd put America first, always work for them if elected, would always tell the truth and never spin the facts like Hilary does
Let me know when your definition of a politician makes it into the dictionary
if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
If' it's elected to POTUS and makes political decisions.....
I was unaware that the wall construction had begun.
I guess that's because it hasn't
Trump inauguration: 250,000
trump protest: 500,000
Mexico is paying...
Why would they? Explain how they are going to be forced to pay for something they don't want in the first place?
News flash: you and other tax players will pay for it. Trump wouldn't even throw in a dime, but then again, he doesn't pay taxes anyway.
And who's fault was it?
Ah yeah, republicans digging their heels when the real ACA was being implemented by Obama. Obama made the concessions to pass ACA only after his 'single payer' was chopped into what it is now. Republicans were in the Insurance Companies' and Hospital associations' pockets because single payer means the government sets limits on everything they do, which is bad for business.
And how do you discredit ACA? High prices and brainwashing for people who call the ACA Obamacare, which is the same thing.
I dont understand how anyone can care this much.
Righties: are you really THAT happy that your candidate won? Whoopdeedoo you got someone you dont personally know into a new home so that they can now act autonomously without your consent. Trump doesnt know you, trump doesnt care about you and likely would not give you a second glance in public. You're like those sports fans who watch their team win and then go "WE did it! WE won! WE'RE the best!" And become super cunty. Bitch, WE didnt do anything, THEY did it all. Trump is not acting for you, he's acting for himself. You are still living your shitty life and browsing 4chan to get your kicks, which is frankly sad.
And lefties: your beaten and bleeding vagina of a candidate lost, alright? Fucking deal with it like normal human beings you cunts. Stop reverting to animals and running around the streets. You're like a bunch of fucking children throwing a temper tantrum because Jimmy ate the last crayon.
All of you are fucking degenerate cunts that care way too much about the powers that be in your country, like you have any real control over it.
>inb4 kek (you still say kek? Grow up you cataclysmic nonce)
Hillary wanted the same as obama so glad that bitch didn't get it
Is this who you really wanted to be your president
>pumping mercury in babys is surely healthy and doesnt just help the jew to destroy whites
These threads pop up every day and i'm so tired of them. Someone needs to tell you cockgobblers how pathetic you all are.
>inb4 "pathetic"? You posted the longest thing on this board
Nigger i didnt say i wasnt a degenerate cunt myself ffs im browsing /b/ but that doesnt dissuade my argument that you're all fucking cunts
They will either pay for the wall directly or indirectly. If they choose not to pay directly, Trump will impose :
>Increased visa fees
Nigger, republicans had nothing to do with 20 million+ people the taxpayers are now paying MORE in premiums and the government is paying MORE in subsidies to pay for a product they can't afford/don't want to work to pay for themselves.
>MFW people in this thread using the word liberal profusely but would not be able to give a definition if asked to
>doesn't believe in 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% of science
>clearly a non-believer in Science
No, but I'm sure you will when you re-read your post and realize what a enormous ass you just made out of yourself.
wow i couldn't give a flying fuck if you've seen it before because chances are most everyone has and it was an on topic post posted for shits and giggles and by the way this thread was not made for your personal gratification you overreaching fuckhat.
grab them by the pussy
You've gotta pay for the war in Iraq and formation of ISIS and general ruination of the middle East first.
Albeit by 1st gen sons of refugees or large scale terror attacks. A wall being built is the last thing republicans and democrats have to worry about.
Anyway keep arguing like the cavemen you are. You stupid yank fucks deserve every bad decision in the last 16 years coming to you.
Somebody better let the hillary supporters know the race is over and they lost so accept it stop being whiny little bitches
It's been explained many times. Not sure how you don't understand how they will pay. There are many of multiple ways that the money will come from them. Or not go to them. You see, economics. Cancelling illegals western union will bring back 35billion annually. Math is funny for Democrats.
Amerifag stereotypes. Go
Our president Donald Trump has a message for all of you haters
Corona = Mexican Piss swill. We have enough Buttwiper if we want piss swill from Americans. With microbrew being more popular, Mexican beers will get dumped. Expect for Mexican Americans that love Mexican Piss swill. So Mexicans will be paying still.
WE ARE GOING TO THINGS AND STUFF OVER THINGS
STUFF AND ALSO CERTAIN THINGS (wait what)
LIKE I SAID...
If any of us could get such a high paying job bullshiiting so fucking hard.
"Yeah my requirements are....listen...requirements are like....what are they?
I look at them and I'm like....listen. Change is not, and then okay, so let's go."
ELECT THIS MAN!!!!
No one know what causes autism, fag. Vaccines could have something to do with it. There is correlation between the rise of autism and the increase of vaccination. The real problem is that the correlation can be made with thousand of things, so it doesn't prove shit, but means you can't truly rule it out either.
Personally, I think vaccines are fine and the slim chance of side effects (even if autism is one) are worth the risk to be immune from potentially painful or deadly conditions. That said, I still don't think they should be mandatory, and it doesn't take 100% of the population to eradicate a disease, so there's plenty of leeway for those that don't.
I hate him. I hate his policies.
I hate everything he stands for.
But I gotta respect his commitment to his election promises.
If every politician did that, he might not have gotten elected in the first place.
His policies are not being heavily enforced anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Everybody knows he's just a crazy old man, the government, the police, judges, lawyers, scientists, top UN officials etc.
Why are you all crying about trump let the man do his job he don't come to the dildo testing factory and pull it out of your ass telling you you're doing it wrong
>thinks science is a list of things you can accept or reject instead of a systematic process by which observation and repeatable, reproducible results are used to reach the most logical and likely conclusion
Rejecting any part of science without an equal amount of solid evidence against it, is in conflict with the scientific method, and so against science.
Let's pretend trump isn't a fat piece of lard.
the opposite actually; logic versus memes...questions answered versus "stuffs and things"...
You've had a heart attack. A doctor walks in.
He wraps your elbow with gauze and says "don't worry son"...
As he's walking out you wonder what the fuck, then die
found a pic of the anon that keeps posting trump is fat do you really have room to talk
But trump is fat....
Are you blind or just in denial?
Yes he is fat what does that have to do with anything he is also a billionaire how does that fit in
Damn this shit is funny hillary lost and people just don't want to accept it sorry guys Trump is your president now just go back down in your moms basement until 2020
Exactly. The worst impact is the product becomes less competitive to export there. They might lose profits, but they technically don't pay a cent - the cost is passed to the consumer.
I never saw any Hillary ones tbh, i saw bernie ones though.
I also saw a fuck ton of Trump. I dont think i ever saw a single clinton sign or sticker through the entire election in person.
Phoenix AZ here.
Dear god, this post!
Cancelling someone sending money by Western Union (or any other means) does not mean that the money automatically goes to the government to pay for a wall. All it stops is the money flow via that route.
So they'll find another way of sending money home.
The only way the government could get its hands on this money would be to tax the people who earned it or paid it. Oh....wait
You do realise that all that'll happen is that the US taxpayer will pay for it and the Trump administration will produce some bullshite smoke-and-mirrors financial numbers that show that actually they have taken more money off Mexico than they did before, so that's how the wall has been paid for.
The only way that you will be able to show Mexico paid for the wall is if Mexico goes "yep, there you go, there's the cash for the wall". Otherwise it'll be obfuscation to cover up the failure to impose his will on another sovereign nation.
We just need to tax the shit of anything we import from Mexico because they failed to comply. It's pretty simple. We can even put a tax on anything that gets exported to mexico. We can literally fuck mexico so hard.
There is also a correlation between inflation, car sales and autism (as you pointed out). The link between vaccines and autism has been clearly disproven. The scientific community does not believe the vaccines cause autism.
Regardless of how you feel about mandatory vaccines the point above is the Trump, when faced with two options: sensationalist dangerous ideas (secret evil doctor cabals are trying to poison your childrens minds) or scientific community consensus that vaccines are safe he's chosen the former to believe.
He believes he is smarter than the scientfic community and this his uneducated intuition about things like climate change and vaccines trumps (ha, a pun!) education and research.
It's a terrifying belief system, one in which you are right by virtue of being you, one in which facts are opinions, opinions are facts, one where research means reading 4chan and facebook.
Hillary lost get over it what happened to america people cry over everything now a days trump is your president
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You're missing the point. Hilary lost, but this thread is about the retardation incarnate that the winner is exhibiting, all the while telling his supporters "Don't worry about these tough shouting matches I'm having with other world leaders" because America isn't trillions in debt and doesn't need the rest of the world, it can act as a self-contained microcosm and make itself great again
If it has nothing to do with anything why are you so mad about it?
Literally no one besides Trump cucks are bringing up Hilary.
It's like she's your abusive mother you just can't stop talking about. Shits sad.
Somehow it's all still about Hillary to you.
here it is. This my favorite ACA complaint.
if your employer refuses to provide a standard level of insurance, then they are forced to let you shop the marketplace.
Your insurance pre-ACA contained exuberant deductibles that essentially punished the sick.
Need a basic check up?
emergency room visit?
>fuckhuge bill that taxpayers have to eat when you can afford it
the marketplace essentially made it law that an individual can go out and get insured no matter what. your premium could be higher, but your deductible less and a broader range of preventative care is covered.
>but muh prebiums
don't like the sound of that? tough shit. that's the part that will be in the replacement bill too.
trump girls have feminine penises
Fuck no rofl. Nice strawman. "anything that says Mexico is paying for the wall is fake hurrdurr" You're a idiot. Mexico WILL pay for it, Trumps not going to walk up to them and be like ay bitch where ma money. There's plenty of other routes to take, whether it takes 2 years or 5 or 8 doesn't matter, it will get payed off by Mexico.. And funny you're even worried about taxpayer money when Obama's put the U.S.A in more debt than all the other presidents combined. Oh wait.. everything's okay to do when you're a liberal, like ya know assault, rioting and vandalism but the second it's a conservative (especially a white one) there's a hugeeee issue. Get real.
>Yes he is fat what does that have to do with anything
he gonna die soon, then we'll have to deal with dick
Former President Jimmy Carter's administration actually designed the wall and broke ground for it, and every POTUS since 1978 has had to build part of it as part of their official duties. Trump isn't "building a wall", he's just going to continue building a wall that's already in progress.
>it will get payed off by Mexico
because they'll tell you it did, and you'll believe them
Oh, and it's "paid" you uneducated fuck
HAHA you looked at a dick and now you're gay.
get real yourself.
trump is too stupid to get mexico to pay for a wall.
obama had to do with a hostile congress all through his presidencey and had to try to clear up bush 1 and 2's messes.
you rethuglicans did everything possible to throw a spanner in the works.
trump is a massive idiot who thinks his brain farts will save the country. they won't. he's alienating america from the very alliances that give him an advantage over china and russia whilst he pisses in putin's pocket.
he will take you back to the dark ages and antagonise smaller countries who have nukes like iran and pakistan.
make no mistake, he will sacrifice your country to his ego
> had to do
> throw a spanner in the works
^^^ Found the non-American... whose opinion doesn't mean a fucking thing to those of us who actually live in the USA.
not a single fact in all that bullshit
you just make up retarded scenarios in your mind and think you know better, its hilarious
next time you should try to run against him since you are so smart and know how everything will unfold
Trade tax. Simple as that. And if they decide to cut off trade with the US over it, it's going to hurt them way fucking worse than it does us. Mexico loses no matter what here. You can't just spout bs and call it fact.. nice picture by the way, amazing how much it retains to you. Also in typical liberal shill fashion you've managed to attack something irrelevant to the topic at hand.. nice man
>Trade tax. Simple as that.
Pic relevant. The USA is in a trade deficit with Mexico. You tax their goods coming in, the prices go up, the American consumer pays more, QED American consumers pay for the wall.
Or are you proposing to increase the price of goods going into Mexico and assume they won't retaliate?
As I said Mexico loses either way.. they increase the price 20% not only do less consumers buy it but you could tax it harder until the shit can't be bought in the U.S because it's so overpriced.. nothing important comes from Mexico anyways. Especially not piss water corona lite.. they suffer far more than we do even if we end up paying for the wall and nothing from Mexico is sold in the U.S, they will either bend or they will break and the U.S will be justttt fine.
>You do realize that hiking the price to Americans will decrease sales
This is indeed basic economics, as long as the consumer can get the same goods at the old price from another source. if not, then it becomes a monopoly supply situation and the consumer has to stomach the increase or go without.
So three possible outcomes: American consumers have to switch to alternative products if available; American consumers pay more (thus funding the wall); American consumers have to go without - a direct consequence of the wall. One neutral possibility and two negatives - not exactly "Americans first"
Mexico says they aren't paying.
Mexico has not paid anything yet.
Trump has said the mexico is going to "pay us back" for the wall. This is change. Not pay for it, the US is doing that. They will reimburse us. That is different.
At this point there is no clear plan from the white house on how Mexico will pay. No sanctions, trade agreement details. In fact, Trump said the way mexico will pay might be very complex basically saying we might not understand how mexico is paying but rest assured they are.
Until more facts or changes are made the conclusion "Mexico WILL pay for it" seems fallacy at worst and fantasy at best.
who pays the extra tax?
that would be the american consumer.
considering some goods have been transferred to mexico from the US the US citizen will have to pay the money.
also US exports will suffer according to the new mexican president as they'll tax the US right back.
No, if anything I feel vindicated. We need see this as a sign our representative democracy has been bought and paid for and depose the corporate and financial sector Oligarchs that control our country. The Vanderbilts, the Rothchilds, the Federal Reserve, all of it. Overthrow the tyrannical 1% and give the country back to the 99%. Until then it doesn't matter who we vote where. Different management, same owners, you'll never be free.
>nothing important comes from Mexico anyways
>The top imports from Mexico in 2015 were vehicles, electrical machinery, machinery, mineral fuels, and medical instruments, the USTR reported. But the country is our second largest supplier of agriculture goods, including vegetables, fruit, wine, beer, and snack foods. Yes, if you're worried about your avocados and your Coronas, you're not off base.
Also picture (attached this time) relevant. Nothing important on that list, no sir. Easily go without that lot.
last leader that tried to do something like that is still painted like the devil for the whole world by the same people who controls everything
and all the useful idiots thinks its a good thing that happened and thinks it makes them better people than others to keep remembering and enforcing that shit everywhere
all vehicles, machinery and stuff is owned by american or european companies that just explore mexico due to the cheap labor
the plan is to bring those back to US
not like mexico has the know-how to produce on their own anything other than girls with mustache and drugs anyways
The most depressing this is I'm a Brit but, with a little research whilst in this thread, I end up knowing more about both the status of the wall, the images in the original article and the state of trade of the USA with Mexico. Yet they would rather be spoon-fed with falsehoods
How is Mexico gonna pay by increased trade tariffs?
In case of tariffs, the only one paying is the end consumer, i.e. the american public. Mexico will just sell their goods elsewhere.
Basic economics 101.
>>nothing important comes from Mexico anyways
>>The top imports from Mexico in 2015 were vehicles, electrical machinery, machinery, mineral fuels, and medical instruments, the USTR reported. But the country is our second largest supplier of agriculture goods, including vegetables, fruit, wine, beer, and snack foods. Yes, if you're worried about your avocados and your Coronas, you're not off base
now turn that round to imports from the USA and see the result.
now add that to the countries the US govt is going to piss off the same way and you'll see america become a banana republic with an ongoing military crippling debt
>the plan is to bring those back to US
Don't hold your breath. If this was the case, why did BMW just commit to a new Mexican plant rather than build in the USA?
Also, I believe without Congress POTUS can only impose 15% for 150 days, so his 20% promise is bluster until a bill passes. But I'm not American so I may be wrong on that piece of constitutional law
Cars are commodities and can be traded around the world, as long as they're built to the correct regulations. They could export from Mexico to any left-hand-drive territory with no retooling. They could even use Mexico to replace some of the cars currently exported from the USA, like some BMW and Mercedes models.
>Ahead of Schedule and Under Budget: Army Engineers Begin Work on Trump's Border Wall
That wall is going to cross the private property if it's supposed to be built all the way through. If those people refuse to have a government building built on their property this whole thing will have to go through the courts and that will take longer than then 9 more month Trump will be in office.
This whole rush to action will backfire on Trump.
>>One of the few politicians doing what he promised he would do.
meaningless if those things are bad and only appeal to paranoid reactionaries
>>Not even taking his salary.
doesnt' need to. plus he's using govt security around trump tower for a massive expenditure
>>Most hated president in America
with good reason
Why does he look younger on the 2015 photo?
its a gamble
bmw probably had planned that plant and everything needed for it and changing it all now would demand and cost a lot
they think the trades between US and mexico wont be fucked up so its worth it to go on with those plans
its a gamble, if they are right, they get cheap mexico labor and great american market
if trump does fuck up the trades, they get fucked because their products wont have a competitive price in the US anymore
meanwhile if other companies set an agreement with trump to make their plants in the US, they'll have an advantage in prices due to taxes and image due to using american workers to make their products instead of shipping the money away
The people don't look that fat too me.
Only as much as Britain deserves brexit.
Yes, fuck the ignorance of the masses and fuck the fearmongering demagogues and fuck the system that rattles and buckles when it lets them come into power. We still have to deal with how to fix it.
>he still is your president and there is nothing you can do about it
He never was and he will never be since I am not a US citizen and neither do I live in the USA.
But he didn't get elected, this was the third time the FBI has helped the GOP rig an election.
All the time and money the republicans spent swift boating the Clinton over crazy election rigging conspiracies and they were rigging the election all along.
The best part is that they've taken another stand against democracy and you're so brainwashed all you'll do is cheer because the team you were programmed to worship in your little red state drop-out factory has won.
Boy howdy,what is this, the tenth Trump thread today?
Actually Trump is the one who got most fat people out.
When the hell did those companies agree to bring jobs back at honest wages? Was it as he repeals regulations on banks from making flat-out awful "investments"? Or when he lowers corporate taxes to the benefit of CEOs? Or when he lowers taxes on the wealthy (by 30% for millionaires, really!!!! wtf!) and placates your sorry ass with a few hundred bucks? Technology, and technology alone is responsible for the largest viable job growth and we have a fag who doesn't believe in science. Going back half a century to the coal mines makes us the new OLD china.
no he didn't.
he tends to say anything that will get approval and figure out the details later.
the american consumer wiill pay for the wall (which will never be built due to the terrain)
Democrats, as they had a super majority and the presidency from 2008-2010. It was later held up in the supreme court by 4 liberal judges and a moderate. You're delusional.
Typical libtard. It's Obama's signature piece of legislation, and when it goes awry, you turn away from your cult leader for any blame.
>Obama made the concessions to pass ACA only after his 'single payer' was chopped into what it is now.
>republicans digging their heels when the real ACA was being implemented by Obama
which is it?
>Republicans were in the Insurance Companies' and Hospital associations' pockets
Of course, the democratic party holding extreme power at the federal level at the time had 0 dealings with any aforementioned organizations because they're always for the people. /s
Yeah, your Orange Lion won.
Now he's still got 70 active lawsuits against him, Trump University and Trump Foundation are blatant evidence of his shady business tactics, he refuses to show his tax returns or cut all ties to his global businesses, and is apportioning christian fundamentalists to positions in his cabinet for which he is unqualified.
He's also indulging the failing fossil fuels industry, whereas china has officially began phasing out coal and invested 360 billion into green energy projects. He still bitches on twitter several times within an hour like a 13 year old girl, and has a press secretary that treats him as such. He talks with the articulation of a 4th grader in every one of his public statements, and has made a good job of pissing off foreign nations in a matter of weeks.
Truly you picked the best and brightest for our oval office. Surely no bad can come of this.
Fuck every last one of you.
No need to get so upset. Just calmly come to the realization that our society has already peaked and we're simply on the inevitable downward trajectory now. We stormed the beaches of Normandy, walked on the Moon and watched the Berlin Wall fall, it's all gonna be downhill from there.
We're too unequal, too stratified with wealth at the top, too fat, too dumb, too easily manipulated. As a comparable civilization, we're at about the part when Caligula was ordering opulent orgies and appointing his horse to be consul of Rome.
But keep in mind this isn't necessarily a bad thing for average American. The British might not have an empire anymore, but they're still kicking around. The individual citizen never reaps the benefit of having an expansive overseas empire.