The Steele dossier (the one with the golden showers in it),

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>>721008577
What makes this even more spicy is that the Russian state-controlled bank VTB fronted the money for the purchase, and then released the collateral on the 19.5% stake, effectively giving away the money without any guarantee that it will be payed back, or even knowing who will pay it back.

The biggest thing that gets me is all these conflicts of interest.

It speaks loudly of all the officials around him, just standing idly.

>>721008909
yes, but this even goes a step further and suggests a 10 billion dollar bribe to the president of the united states by the leader of a foreign nation.

that's treason

>>721008989
This.

Well fuck

>>721008989

I doubt it'll proven. And I'm sure it's true.

We're just going to have to wait for him to fuck up and then grit out way through Pence, in the best of cases.

also, don't forget that this may mean that the golden shower tapes actually exist

>>721009124
>We're just going to have to wait
or you could go out and protest, write your senator, etc

you know, use your democratic rights while you still have them

>>721008577
>The Steele dossier (the one with the golden showers in it), released in *July*, included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions.

I want more in this. How verifiable is this?

>>721008989
Sounds like every day for the Clintons
Minus the president part of course

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>>721009124
>I doubt it'll proven. And I'm sure it's true.

>>721009238
https://twitter.com/mikebutcher/status/826014671182372869

I'll look for more sources

>>721009309
>Minus the president part of course
but that's the critical part you double nigger

>>721009226

Oh.

Yeah, about that. I'm a US citizen without the write to vote. I don't have representation in Congress or the Senate. My island was taken by the US in 1898 and in 1955 we were finally allowed to govern ourselves to an extent, since this is still US territory. They love us in US armed forces infantry. I'm from Puerto Rico.

>>721009238
The golden showers was a proven farce. This discredits any other claims made by that source

>>721009391
Good thing the libtards votes don't matter

>>721009419

Proven a farce how?

>>721009417
>write
So you really are a spic

>>721009419
That's a fallacy.

>>721009419
>a proven farce
No, it was unsubstantiated. That something else entirely.

>>721009419
pol jumping up and down pretending they were the source doesn't make it so.

>>721009506
Archives of /pol/ planning it out before it was released

>>721009494
I know you're trolling, but liberal votes are the only ones that matter. Voter turn out for republicans has been about the same for the last three presidential elections and probably before that as well. Whether or not a democrat wins office depends on whether liberals decide to vote.

Most conservatives vote. Most liberals don't. And there's a lot more liberals.

>>721009238
http://www.inquisitr.com/3935723/donald-trump-russia-golden-shower-pee-tape-vladimir-putin-rosneft-oil-steele-dossier-bribe/

>>721009124
>I doubt it'll be proven.
>also I'm sure it's true.

>can't be proven

>sure
>its
>true

>>721009558
It brings strong questioning to anything else said by the source because it's been proven to be unreliable
Is that better?

>>721009552

I'm a guy on a phone with auto-correct who doesn't proof read.

>>721009702
>liberal votes are the only ones that matter

>most conservatives vote

>most liberals don't vote

fuckin wut m8? my sides

>>721009659
bullshit, the archives explicitly state that the plan didn't include statements about Russia

>>721009659

Jesus man, that's no proof.

/pol/ overestimates their influence

>>721009711

Won't /= can't


Thanks.

>>721009828
lrn2reason
if an election is decided based solely on whether or not liberals decide to vote, those votes matter.

>>721009866
Yes, those statements were later added by officials in the CIA etc. as the claim escalated.
It's an embarrassment to our intelligence programs really.

>>721009790
yes.

>>721009920
you = retarded faggot

Thanks.

>>721009790
also, can you give your source when you make the claim its discredited? Trump calls everything he does not like fake news. Does not actually mean its fake.

>>721009974
haha, fucking idiot

so the CIA edited the archives, by adding extra posts instead of just deleting the relevant ones? how can we trust the archives at all then?

Also, and more importantly, the earliest posts about the troll in archives date back to October. The dossier was already out in July.

>>721010052

But yeah, go ahead and emulate the retarded faggot while you call him one, it looks great.

>>721009953
Christ kid you sound like an absolute dunce

>>721009953
Only when you don't vote, it doesn't matter what the fuck you think and no one cares. Literally no one.

Is your argument seriously "Well, like, we totally didn't even feel like voting sooo that's why we lost"?

holy fuckin kek the denial in these motherfuckers is hilarious

>>721010136

Logic has produced sodium within you.

Tasty.

>>721010170

Feed him an argument you can fight, that helps.

>>721010199
Being cringey doesn't make you less of a dunce

>>721010125
The cia doesn't have to edit the archives to add anything to it nigger.
If they knew where it came from, they'd find a new goose to chase.

>>721010248
That's literally the argument that's being formed, take some personal responsibility and realize you're on the wrong side of history for remaining a salty little bitch. :^)

>>721010302

Name calling doesn't dispelling logic.

From a couple weeks back

>>721010433

>we totally didn't even feel like

Can't agree that was his argument, that notion isn't anywhere but in your post.

Trumpfags aren't readers I guess.

>>721010420
Nice way to ignore the time line discrepancy that debunks your horse shit story, dumb fuck.

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>>721010511

I like how not a single person has considered that perhaps Russia read the report then immediately sold 19% of the company to itself in order to cause dissent

They've shown that they will resort to petty stunts like that to cause issues before, why not now?

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>>721010100
Search it yourself. I just searched "golden showers trump" (duckduckgo Google filters results) and all the results were either jokes or explanations of how the intelligence agency fucked up so bad.

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>>721010621

>>721010558
>>721010558
See
>>721010624
Just see for yourself

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>>721010615
>why not now?
because they like Trump, so it would go against their interests.

Also, because the Duma was unaware of the sale until after the fact, and so were other board members of Rosneft such as BP, which also holds a 19% stake.

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>>721010170
Yeah, except that's not what he was saying.

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>>721010787

>>721010435
If you were using logic then you wouldn't be a dunce, would you?

>>721010813
If you don't vote, no one gives a fuck what you have to say. Not a hard concept.

>>721010669
I literally got a bunch of links to RT articles.

Show me the proof that it has been debunked and I'll believe it. Note that the /pol/ archives aren't proof, because they only date back until October.

As far as I know, it's only unsubstantiated, which is different from debunked.

>>721010941

That logical statement anon made?

Still there, undisputed. That's how it works, if you can grasp it.

>>721011072

I don't care if they date to 200 b.c.

It means nothing.

>>721011221
>It means nothing.
obviously, but because of the dates we can say for a fact that the archives mean nothing

>>721010838
This is ridiculous tin foil maximum.

And then Trump capitalised th letter R in his surname, which happens to be the first letter of the SOVIET UNION AND WAR AND GLORY TO THE PUTIN.

And did you know that Trump once drank United freedom water and it was found to have a chemical composition of h2 and get this, o. Secret ambassador to Mars Adam Rice acquired a sample of putins presidential water and it had an identical molecular composition. If trump and Putin can get chemicals to each other why can't they get chemicals like ink on paper to each other for the purpose of being pen pals

Then while they writing each other, Putin could enact his master plan to ... Uh... Be allowed access to the world market?

>>721008577
Its all money people

>>721008989
Wooo! Trump's death by firing squad! I hope its true and a conviction would land. But if it was a perfect world he wouldn't have been the Republican nominee.

>>721011519
>a conviction would land
Well, seeing how the recent Muslim ban was in blatant disregard of national and international law, and he got away with it, I don't see how he'd be charged at all.

>>721011519
Its not true and has been debunked already. Either pay attention to politics or don't Don't half-ass it.

>>721011647
>has been debunked already
proof

>>721008577
so fake news then.

>>721011711
which part about this is fake?

>>721008909
it would have to be true first.
that is how it works kid.

>>721011690
Google it, nigger

>>721010761
What the fuck, BP holds a 19% stake in a foreign government state owned oil company that basically keeps their economy afloat and that's okay and less alarming than a questionable intelligence report followed by a convenient 19% being sold off to unknown buyers?

Once that report hit, EVEN if it was true, the deal would have been immediately cancelled if they were trying to hide it because being caught is absoloutly against their interests

>>721008989
only if he takes it.
that's how it works kid.

>>721011764
I did, it didn't turn up anything that shows that it's false. So proof. Nigger.

>>721011740
All of it

>>721009124
one of her losers detected.

>>721011806
proof

>>721009155
unless you can prove it.
that's how it works kid.

>>721009226
edgy preteen detected.

>>721009309
this. well and loli express. fucking girls the age of your wife's daughter.

>>721011784
>BP holds a 19% stake in a foreign government state owned oil company that basically keeps their economy afloat and that's okay and less alarming than a questionable intelligence report followed by a convenient 19% being sold off to unknown buyers
Yes, because one is legal and the other is high treason.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that treason is proven here, because it isn't of course, I'm just saying that it's rather coincidental that the number line up exactly to suggest treason by Trump. And I think we should get to the bottom of that.

>>721009333
I'll notify the secret service.

>>721009579
to you.

>>721009702
sure kid

>>721009702
Queerlafornias waiting for you snowflake

Fake ""news""

You made your bed now lie in it.

>>721012013
it should be to you too, unless you're too retarded to understand that absence of evidence isn't the same as evidence of absence.

>>721009706
fake news.

>>721012070
Prove it.

>>721008577
>reuters
>THIS ISNT FAKE NEWS GAIZ

Go kill yourself, CTR shill. This country is moving ahead without you, and you'll be left behind in your hate, bigotry and backwards old-fashioned ways.

>>721009974
no just barry and hillary

>>721009953
65 million votes for Obama in 2012, 65 million votes for Hillary in 2016.

>Trump only won because enough "liberal" voter turnout wasn't good enough.

>>721012110
you obviously didn't read the article

it simply lines out the money trail from the deal, and doesn't even mention Trump

you faggots call anything you think you don't like fake news, and think that's an argument

dumb shits

>>721010590
the daily beast
ny times.
try harder kid

>>721012198
>ny times.
best goddamn newspaper in the world

even trump said he has respect for it

>>721010624
doesn't mean its real kid.
why are millennials this dumb?

>>721008577
better than the shit we know hillary would have done.

>>721011598
Total muslims in the world: 1.6 billion

www.pewresearch.org/.../muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-wo...

Assuming that EVERY person in EVERY one of the countries on Trumps immigration ban list are muslim (which they very clearly are not) that would still only be

Syrian population- 22.85 million
Iraq population- 33.42 million
Libya population- 6.2 million
Yemen population- 24.41 million
Sudan population- 37.96 million
Somalia population- 10.5 million
Iran population- 77.45 million

212.79 million / 1.6 billion = 13% of muslims worldwide at the ABSOLUTE MOST.

Nearly 90% of all muslims are still free to come and go as they please.

>OMG ITS A MUSLIM BAN! TRUMPS BANNING ALL THE MUSLIMS! RACIST! ISLAMOPHOBE!

Liberals can't help but make themselves look stupid almost every day. The BEST part is they claim that they're "educated" and EVERYONE ELSE is stupid and doesn't understand.

Fuckin kek

>>721012198
Both of those articles can be found by nearly any other news agency

>>721011598
sire kid

>>721009953
Lrn2reason, votes that don't exist don't matter by default, retard.

>>721011740
all of it.

>>721012288
>Liberals can't help but make themselves look stupid almost every day.
Kek, the only reason I called it a Muslim ban is because Giuliani said that that's what it is. The fucking irony.

>>721012352
proof

>>721012068
ad hom you have nothing.
admit it.

>>721012287
Keep telling yourself that, cucky.

>>721012095
burden is on you buttercup.
that's how adulthood works.

>>721012256
sure kid.

>>721012428
you're mistaking an insult for an ad hominem.
>you're too retarded to understand
This is an insult.
>absence of evidence isn't the same as evidence of absence.
This is an argument.

>>721012477
source is already given

you called it fake, so now the burden is on you

>>721012307
you think this means something?
why are millennials this stupid?
answer that one.

>>721012414
yes child that is what I'm waiting for from you.

>>721012382
And you're the smart one for parroting him unironically while simultaneously calling him the stupid one?

Sure, kid. kek

>>721012585
its in the OP

>>721012505
attacks the poster instead of answering.
answers with another attack.
you have nothing but a child's stubbornness.

>>721012535
sure kid. validate the source

>>721012593
>calling him the stupid one?
I called you the stupid one.
> parroting him unironically
parroting would be if I would have said that the muslim band was legal, like he did. Instead I claimed the opposite.

Fucking mongoloid, how do you even know how to use a keyboard?

>>721012657
I'll repeat it one more time.
>>absence of evidence isn't the same as evidence of absence.

>>721012682
all the info in the source is public record

more importantly, it's your turn to INvalidate it, since you claim it's false.

>>721012550
How old are you?

>>721012173
>is mad because liberal media has been caught nigger-handed making shit up
>gets mad when his liberal media isnt taken seriously

Maybe you should jump off your tenga egg and go tell your liberal media sources to get back to actual non-biased investigative journalism instead of lashing out at everyone else for not believing you when you've been caught fucking lying to the whole world?

Maybe?

Nope. Liberals don't do actual manual labor. It's beneath them. Work is for uneducated blue-collar redneck hillbillies.

>>721012794
>you've been caught fucking lying
about what exactly?

>>721012683
>hurr durr only called it 'muslim ban' cus this other guy did and i thought it was funny

literally parroting what he said then turning around and saying it was wrong. great hypocrisy kid. you've got the critical thinking skills of an amoeba i couldn't give one fuck less what you call me

>>721012836
I guess we're pretending CNN wasn't just caught a week ago running a fake story and trying to paint Trump out to be a racist so they could push their own stupid ass agenda forward

http://www.publiusforum.com/2017/01/21/left-wing-media-lies-donald-trump-not-remove-bust-martin-luther-king-oval-office/

pathetic as fuck

You're wasting your time here.

Even if Putin himself confesses business beals with Trump, that Russia is taking over, at a press conference - they would not believe it.

They would not believe that their Messiah has done anything bad. He could spit on em like Bieber did, and they'd cheer.

>>721012998
This may come as a shock to you, but I'm not CNN. And no one in this thread even used CNN as a source.

What exactly am *I* lying about?

>>721011973
Kek
This whole thread is embarrassing.
Shills, I thought you were out of a job

>>721012998
>Recapping Donald Trump's spectacular first week in office

Lol come back when you have a valid source

>>721012998
>http://www.publiusforum.com/2017/01/21/left-wing-media-lies-donald-trump-not-remove-bust-martin-luther-king-oval-office/
haha holy fuck I read a more nuanced story about that on fucking Breitbart news. What kind of shit are you shoveling here kiddo?

>>721012262
I believe you are the dumb one since I was advocating for it being fake.
Put on your glasses, grandpa

>>721008989
Yep

>>721008577
While we're on the subject, does anyone have any leads for Tupac's location?

>>721008775
thats what shortselling is you fucking twat not uncommon at all

>>721008577
>If he became president
And now he is and all that happened so what? Russia doesn't control anything in us and those sanctions are probably costing money that the us doesn't need to spend which is a good thing
And that trade for trump in exchange for lower security just sounds crazy

If u really think russia and us will war it will probably be because of reason
Not because america removed sone of its sanction
"Oh now is time to strike for mother russia"
Get real

>>721013505
Zuckerberg bought the island next to Tupac's. They play golf together and wife swap.

>>721012998
That link is literally fake news

>>721013558
>shortselling
kek, shortselling is intended to generate a profit, it doesn't work like that when you already own the fucking product being sold you moron

>>721013645
who the fuck even mentioned war besides you, you dumb nigger?

it's about a possible bribe

>>721013645
Great job Oleg. Putin will pay you bonus for glorious shilling.

>>721013678
Shieeet. Where dey b doe

>>721013345
>>721013698
butthurt libcuck.
also prolly a samefag

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>>721013926
>samefag
okay buddy.

stay delusional

>>721013926
>cuck

There it is. You're worthless and nothing you say matters.

>>721014015
>take screenshot
>open paint
>copy sample of beige post background over second (You)
>post screenshot
>revel in cleverness

Nope.
Still a trigger'd cuck.
What I don't get is you liberals spend all your time hating and protesting everything while the rest of us fuck, drink and play Dying Light together.
Are your lives really that great?

>>721012717
very good kid.. you're a parrot.

>>721014068
>You're worthless and nothing you say matters.
Projecting.

>>721014183
at least I have something to say you dumb shit

>>721013388
ad hom. you have nothing kid.

>>721014228
yes so do many parrots.

>>721014248
Oh, the irony

>>721014105
>the rest of us fuck, drink and play Dying Light together.
said the guy who just posted a five line explanation of how to fake not being a samefag on 4 fucking chan

i'm sure you're a beacon of civilization and hedonism

>>721014295
that makes two of use

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USA is trying to launch a trade war against germany.

Meanwhile: Germany is building up camps at murican mainland

>>721014341
I know you are but what am i?

>>721014404
that doesn't even make any sense

has trolling devolved to this? it used to be an art

Who cares?

I would rather the US get along with Russia. Hillary sold them our uranium. We've been fighting the same terrorists in the middle easts (I mean, we created those terrorists but that's neither here nor there).

This is how politics work, wheeling and dealing like this is everyday business. Why are you acting like it's some kind of conspiracy? What kind of "evil" conspiracy helps both countries involved?

>>721014508
>Who cares?
It's high treason we're talking about. If you don't care you're not worth talking to.

>>721014452
No, it really never was a art.

The fact that you've been trolled this whole time is evidence enough.

>>721014551
Hardly.

>>721014316
>i'm sure you're a beacon of civilization and hedonism
I am at least one of those things you've listed,

>>721014508
This.
Russia doesn't want to be our enemy--it simply wants our respect, to be treated in the same fashion we treat the EU, Japan and Korea.

There's a shitload of money to be made for both countries if sanctions are dropped and regular trade is re-established. Everyone wins.

>RUSSIANS DID IT
>TRUMP IS PUTINS LAPDOG

Just shut the fuck up with the liberal bullshit. You're so open to letting Syrian refugees skullfuck your wives but so fucking xenophobic to Russia. Backwards-ass liberal logic.

>>721008577
Wtf difference does it make. Trumpistas are so queer for Donnie's dick they won't care if we start flying the Russian flag over the WH and sending Seal Teams in to assassinate Pootie's rivals. These treasonous bastards have sold us all out to Vlad the Invader because they're just that cucked that a black man could solve the health care problem they couldn't solve over the last 25j years because white men think being sick is sinful

>>721012288
The administration is outing dissent. This was a test. They wanted to know who was with them or against them. This is a power grab. This mimics a fascist takeover. I am not saying it is, but we would all be stupid to not explore the similarities and prepare.

This is an Evangelica agenda and if it does take complete power most Trump supporters will be on the outside too. I mean unless you don't drink, smoke, do drugs, and except Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (by their definition, not yours)

>>721013024
Well that would mean they'd have to admit they were wrong. They'd rather see their country in ruins rather than their ego bruised.

>>721014551
liberals crying about treason and how Trump is ruining the country, but had no problem when Obama:

>-Implemented portions of the DREAM Act, which Congress rejected, by executive action

>-Ended some terror asylum restrictions by allowing asylum for people who provided only "limited" material support of terrorists

>-Allowed immigrants in the U.S. illegaly who are relatives of military troops, then let them stay until they gained legal status.

>-Recognized same-sex marriage in Utah, even though the Supreme Court in Utah stayed the court order, before the final decision had been made in D.C.

>-Refused to prosecute violation of drug laws with certain mandatory minimums

>-Illegally revealed the existence of sealed indictments in the Benghazi investigation

>-Failed to enforce the Magnitsky Act by not adding Russians to a list of people not permitted to travel or do business in the US

Don't try to play the self-righteous card now, dipshit. Obama was just as much in bed with the Russians and you didn't say a thing. How's that first day of high school going?

>>721014689
But Russia doesn't value basic human rights. That is the issue. They literally just made it legal to beat your wife which, from what I read, wouldn't bother most of you.

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>>721014558
I'll remind you that you're in my thread. And I'll take free bumps in whatever form they come. All you doing is handing me free shill sheckles.

>>721014932
>Don't try to play the self-righteous card now, dipshit.
this goes both ways, don't you see?

>>721014932
Holy shit, he tried to give more rights to more people - shameful

I don't understand while so many conservative are threatened by lifestyles different from their own. More rights for others does not equal less for you. It is a fucking pie.

>>721014689
>russian wants our respect
Not really. Russia wants to strengthen its position as a world power. Putin is merely acting friendly because he's cornered and it's the only option he has if he doesn't want Russia to end up like North Korea by butting heads in a losing position.

>there's money to be made
Russia can make a massive amount of money, the US not so much. The US already have secured strategic resources and besides dependence issues, there's not much more Russia has to offer. Yes, they buy US technology, but nothing in larger scales than other allies that oppose Russia.

>liberal bullshit
Many people have a legitimate problem with Russia because it's a threat to US hegemony and status as the only global superpower. It's a threat to US allies and it has much less to offer than those said allies. Being pro-Russia isn't a position any reasonable US nationalist would hold. Hell, half of Trumps' cabinet keeps warning him about Russia.

If the US really want closer ties with Russia, showing weakness on their part isn't going to help. That will just comfort Putin in his expansionist attitude.

>>721015362
This

>>721014341
wanna cracker?

>>721015921
Sure kid

>>721008989
No doubt Trump got the bribe. But I honestly don't think they'll ever definitively prove it.

If they do, Trump will end up in prison for treason faster than you can say "Sad!" I also cannot wait for all the people on /pol/ and other smug republicans to realize they, quite literally, voted someone worse than crooked Hillary.

>>721016224
They'll never admit to it. If he gets impeached at all we'll see the wildest conspiracy theories going around about why, but they won't admit that Trump could ever do wrong.

>>721015362
Wait for the ambient temperature of the Earth to go up a couple more degrees. Russia will thaw and they will have access to oil now off limits due to permafrost. Money won't be an issue for Russia any more.

>>721016042
just waiting here for me. how adorable.
if we were doing a job interview right now you would be heading to the door.
you offer nothing. its not knowing the phrase its knowing when to use it.
fell free to respond. I've paid my two bits, now put on a show.

>>721016224

sure kid

>>721016370
>>721016391
yawn.

>>721016391
Oil is already driving their economy. And it's also the reason for why they're in such bad shape now. The price of oil is too low. With increased access to new fields it'll only go down. Aside from that, they're privatizing the state owned oil company because they don't have money to pay for shit.

>>721008577
> (the one with the golden showers in it)
The golden showers were literally fanfiction written by /pol/ why anyone is considering anything in this dossier legit is beyond me.

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>>721008577
Posting in a David Brock thread...

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOn9MuFimo

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>721016472
wanna cracker?

>>721016604
Already debunked. The report was out in July, and the /pol/ thread dates from October. It wasn't /pol/

>>721016604
they are this desperate.
it like when he was running for office. all of the fake rape claims.
you think they would have learned.
the difference is he's president now.
now they are attacking the government.

>>721016689
you are adorable.

>>721011072
Literally anyone can make a claim without proof, so unsubstantiated is completely untrustworthy. It's fan fiction at this point. Only an absolute idiot puts any sort of faith in fan fiction.

>>721016881
Your a nigger

>>721012535
Your source lacks any kind of credibility, spouting what appears to be nonsense out of its ass. Without proof to support it, there's no reason to disprove it.

>>721016391
Which is why it's critical to stunt the Russian expansion and prevent them from gaining more strategic territory while it's still possible, while also focusing on alternative power sources. Sucking up to Russia and allowing them to go on the same path will be the same mistake as with China. They were allowed to grow until they reached a point where you can't do anything anymore.

Russia should never be allowed to grow, from the point of view of US interest of course.

>>721012535
"The burden is on you to prove something didn't happen"

Classic lib response. Stay salty.

>>721016914
>unsubstantiated
I'll agree with that.

But what gives it its first hint of substance is the numbers (in the OP) lining up exactly with the report.

>>721016604

>/pol/
>influencing anything


Aside from complaints, no, anon. The delusions continue I see.

>>721014971
Neither do half the countries that the US deals with. Have you seen China's record?

>>721017071
I made no claim about something happening or not. All I did was note an interesting correspondence between two numbers. You should learn how to read.

>>721008577
oh shit this means the golden shower stuff could be legit.

It's time to make America great again! Bring back the Golden age!

>>721013558
Seems like a massive gamble to be short sell. If it is then are speculating the oil price will drop. Like if the US dropped sanctions on them and then Exxonmobil can build there new pipeline for them.

>>721017076
I don't see how that provides substance. This all happened after the dossier was released.

Here's another unsubstantiated claim: the transfers were structured by Trump's enemies to frame him.

>>721008577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qii3ESbKQKY

>>721014932
>liberals crying about treason and how Trump is ruining the country, but had no problem when Obama


nice strawman but I am a liberal and I gave obama plenty of shit for stuff like the NDAA. Go fuck yourself you strawmanning piece of shit, you can hate Obama and Trump and still be a liberal

>>721017244
Yes you did.

>you called it fake, so now the burden is on you

>>721017342
sad attempt.

>>721017517
found the six year old.

I'm really amused to see libs acting just like conservatives 8 years ago.

>>721017649
actually they weren't this bad.

>>721017599
Wut?

>>721017438
>This all happened after the dossier was released.
Well yeah, the condition for the transfer mentioned in the documents was for Trump to be president first. Also, if the report would have come out after the fact, then it'd be less credible because anyone can write according to partial facts. But in this case, the report made a prediction about what will happen in the future: the sale of 19% of Rosneft. And that prediction turned out to be true.

>>721017517
He called my source fake. But the source documents the numbers, not the event he claims didn't happen. Learn to read.

>>721009226
Stick your protest in your ass. Don't you have some work to do? Oh right... your job for the next four years is screaming and crying like a little bitch.

>>721012152
not true though. 61 for Hillary

>>721017849
The transfer could have been to anyone though. Try to follow along:
1. Dossier released
2. Trump wins
3. Transfer structured to frame Trump

Of course this is all unsubstantiated.

>>721009417
You should be thankful your shit-hole island is in any way connected to the US. You could be just like Haiti...

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>>721008577
It says it was sold for 19 billion, not given you retard. And the national debt in Russia as about double that so you think the Russian people wouldn't flip out about Putin just giving away half the money that could remove their debt? Nah nigger

>>721018130
Why would the Russians try to frame Trump? It doesn't make any sense that way.

>>721018197
Don't know. It's unsubstantiated. Are you starting to see why the info in the dossier is worthless now?

>>721018130
>The transfer could have been to anyone though.
That is true. But what we do know is that they are actively hiding the buyer, which is highly unusual. Why hide it if it isn't Trump? Why literally give away 19% of the crown juwel of Russian industry?

>>721018171

Haiti was colonized by the French. It shares the island with another country.

We were conquered by Spain. The US invaded the island and annexed it, basically as spoils of war. We are technically an archipelago.

>shithole

Yeah, eternal summer in the Caribbean. How do we cope I wonder.

How do I put this...there are probably no cruises stopping at your town.

You're an idiot.

>>721017649
the only thing conservatives had were the Kenyan Witch Doctor Time Travel Lizard Man Conspiracies being given to us by Alex Smith and these were being given serious consideration. We have the man who refounded tsarist Russia teaming up with our slimiest billionaire being busted by the FBI and everybody says that's impossible. Trump is a traitorous thief who is stealing out country from us right under our noses but hey, he's not black

>>721018401
Any answer either of us have to that question would be unfounded speculation.

>>721018185
>sold
By a private equity loan given out by a state owned bank, which subsequently released collateral. In other words, giving someone the money to buy something you own, and then accepting the money as payment for the item. That's called giving away

>>721018498
Just like the conservative wingnuts, all your evidence is unsubstantiated and unverifiable. Now, lib wingnuts are trying to claim that the inaccurately name "muslim ban" was a trial for a coup.
If you ask nice, the birthers might lend you their tinfoil hats.

>>721008577
Yea sure OP. Cry harder libcuck your tears sustain me.

>>721018501
The evidence is circumstantial, I'll give you that. But it warrants attention nonetheless, because of the severity of the matter.

>>721009309
Yeah its ok then.
Kys

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>>721017141
You keep chugging that liberal kool-aid, anon.

>>721018709
It warrants the same attention that was given to the Obama conspiracies. Very little. It's a distraction.

>>721018709
Where were all you guys when Hillary's foundation was taking money from terrorist countries?

>>721018857
Busy campaign for Hillary of course

>>721012198
the times is probably the only non-biased news page in the fuckin country right now. Unless you just read the op-ed pieces

>>721018925
You can say the same about fox, if you ignore their pundits. But it doesn't work that way.

>>721009600
If only the timeline between anon's post and the "report" didnt match up perfectly.

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>>721018811
They're just butrhurt Libtards that are mad that Trump is fulfilling all of his promises and will make this country great again. They should go back to their pussy hat protests.

>>721018804

And you think they're even of voting age?

>meme magic

Oh, anon.

So trump is a Russian stooge what's new

>>721018983

Empty gestures he knows won't pan out but do satisfy those he panders to.

He doesn't need to succeed, just say he tried.

>>721018811
The thing with the Obama conspiracies was that there was never any evidence to begin with. Here, the evidence is at least circumstantial, and we'd be talking about high treason if true. If you think that's not worth the effort looking into further, that's fine. But then you have to ask yourself what you're still doing in this thread.

>>721018925
Disagree.
They have ties to Clearchannel and Viacom, whom have ties to CNN, ABC, NBC and Fox.
They MAY be non-biased and truthful, you may be right.
However, the last time we all assumed a news source was non-biased and truthful, it took a golden shower fanfiction involving a certain American President which was written by a /pol/tard and they then presented that fiction as absolute fact to the world.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm assuming all news is false by default.

>>721018998
Stay salty, anon.

The alt-right boogeyman is real and he took the presidency away from your Hillary "ShillsALot" Clinton.

>>721019074
Obama's grandmother claimed she was there when Barack was born. In Kenya. Not saying it happened, but I don't see how the "evidence" against Trump is any more compelling.

>>721019067
Trump will succeed because he's the greatest man to ever live you just hate him because he's not a cuck boy crybaby libtard pussy like you.

>>721018976
They don't. Report came out in July, the posts date back to October.

>>721019093
>assuming buzfeed was non-biased and truthful
mate im a liberal and that shit is fucking trash

>>721008577
So whoever made the accusation simply did their homework and learned about the sale before it occured then tied trump to it to make things seem more legitimate, so fake news? Fake news it is.

>>721019062
so you can't prove this what's new

>>721019200
Everyone says that they had the report in July, but there's no evidence of that either since no one published it. All we have to go on is some liberal news sources claiming they had it.

>>721019182

You're not ever going to make "meme magic" not embarrassing.

>>721019239
The problem wasn't buzzfeed, the problem was multi-national news sources picked it up and used it to rabidly attack the president.

It's a fucked day when state-sponsored Russian Media and news is more honest than Western media. I wonder how long thats' actually been the case.

>>721019241
>learned about the sale
Not even the board members of Rosneft or the Russian parliament knew about this deal.

>>721018709
People have been hung on circumstantial evidence, and less than we have on Trump

>>721019417
I don't see that as a problem. All that did was make moderates like me trust the media even less.

>>721019239

Buzzfeed is so awful, they eliminated comments from all news articles almost two years ago because people would point out either serious ethical issues in their reporting or plain inconsistencies.

You can comment on them trying out Mexican junk food though.

>>721019417
>and used it to rabidly attack the president.
As far as I remember, CNN caught a lot of flack from other news agencies for even reporting on it. Trump even praised them for it, even the Times of all media.

>>721019417
buzzfeed started the whole thing and everyone ran away with it. I might be biased towards the times but i dont remember front page saying Trump was a Russian stooge who had a piss fetish

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>>721019387
>You're not ever going to make "meme magic" not embarrassing.

You're projecting.

Letting labels and titles embarrass you or embolden you. Are you 12 years old? Do you try to get every steam achievement in Dragon Age so you can show them off?

Fuck is wrong with you. Your entire ideology lost to /pol/, the remnants of the original /b/ lurker base, and your chief concern is the term meme magic?

And you liberals wonder why you're losing everything..where the fuck are your priorities at?

>pic related, read the liberal cunts' shirt

>>721019430
We used to hang black folks with no evidence. What's your point? Are you saying you want those days back?

>>721008577
it doesnt make anything fucking spicy rosneft was sold to arabs and glencore get the fuck out you uneducated piece of shit

>>721009417
This is why people hate you fucking wetbacks. We can simply not afford to take in all you illegals any longer. Whenever we show any sign of Christian charity to savages, this kind of shit happens. You move right on in like you own the place, and then directly proceed to collecting welfare, and trying to tear down our Constitution and Christianity--it's a well known fact that you are all cathylicks, and wish to replace Christianity with your satanic/Islamic papist garbage, because you hate Jesus, which is why you name your kids that in complete mockery of his holy name. It's no coincidence that Spain was once openly Moslem, and today the biggest threats to Christianity are Spaniards and Muslims invading our country to try and destroy it. You have to go back.

>>721019560

>projecting

No, I'm embarrassed for you.
Big difference.

>meme magic

Oh lord. Sorry if insulted your religion or something.

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>>721019552
>As far as I remember, CNN caught a lot of flack from other news agencies for even reporting on it. Trump even praised them for it, even the Times of all media.
They did. Because it was a blatant lie.
But they did try to pass it off as real, credible news. That's the problem.

>>721019554
Not front page, but they omitted it was a fucking fanfic. CNN omits many things.
>pic related

>>721019731
/pol is that way ->

>>721019471
That's why I get all my news from Russia Today.

>>721019746
>Oh lord. Sorry if insulted your religion or something.
Hm.
>misses the point completely
Liberalism 2017. They only hear what they want to hear, and only read what they want to read.
And after that, you're still a racist homophobic Nazi trump lover.

>>721019731

>wetbacks
>illegals
>you are all cathylicks
>Spain was once openly Moslem

You don't possess the basic knowledge to converse with me. For your sake, I'll assume troll.

>>721019731
>cathylics
wait, you mean the true christians, right?

>>721019807
True, but they didnt know. Hell, it was a couple days before /pol got their hands really on it

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>>721012682
>sure kid
Please fuck off with the "sure kid". It makes whatever else you say not mean anything.
Cancer can't have an argument

>>721019869

But after all is said and done, you know "meme magic" isn't real, right?

>>721019958
Sure kid

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>>721012682
There's my CTR shill.
I remember when you made that jaypeg just for meeeee.

>$0.10 has been added to your account

>>721019958
hes a troll who always lurks on these threads. pay him no attention.

>>721011896
Oh America, this is how you stick up for those on the streets demanding better of your government? You really are in trouble...

>>721020275
Those people have been manipulated. I feel pity for them.

>>721019575
Don't bring the blacks into this. Yes, it would be nice to bring public hangings back, have a few of them swinging from trees on every block. They've been ruining America since we brought them here. Blacks were "a bad investment". I don't understand why Trump is trying to get rid of Mexicans and Muslims. They actually want to be here and work and contribute. Blacks destroy everything. Who do I have to vote for to get rid of the real problem?

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>>721008577
No coincidence, but also no known ties to Trump. In the EU, the European Central Bank has had a Quantitive Easing and LTRO programmes amounting to €80,000,000,000 monthly. The ECB traders invest not only in government bonds but also corporate bonds. Glencore is one of the corporate receivers. Therefore, the ECB QE and LTRO directly fund the Russian state. Furthermore, this deal has been in the making for years now, I doubt wether president Trump's election has anything to do with that.

>>721009828
>>721012043
>>721012053
you 3 can easily check official stats. rednecks usually get the same number of votes every time and vote count for libtards varies a lot from election to election. libtard activity is what really matters, and this time the cunt scared many of them away from ballot boxes

it really isn't rocket science

>>721021480
>this deal has been in the making for years now,
Would you happen to have a source on that?

>>721021811

The fucking board didn't know, but he did.

>>721021811
One of the link is
rosneft.com/ and add 2/2
Trust me, I have experience in large investments, these processes take years. The start was probably around 2012, at the same time the ECB expanded QE and LTRO, (thus glencore could afford the deal in the foreseeable future).1/2

>>721022865
press/releases/item/114418/
To find the article.

>>721022865
>rosneft.com
But Rosneft claims things about this deal that are demonstrated to be false (see overview in the link in the OP).
>believe me
Well, that simply won't do.

>>721023048
1) I think Reuters gets their news from Rosneft, not the other way around. But I am not sufficiently up to speed to know the details of the deal you're mentioning.
2) believe me - fair play, my word isn't fact. However, I think it is common sense to know that these deals take years to finalise. Or would you say this is only a half a year's work?

>>721023727
>I think Reuters gets their news from Rosneft,
No, they got their news from publicly available information. I can recommend that you read the link in the OP, they detailed where which bit of information comes from.
>takes years
It takes so long because of lengthy negotiations, but here the board and the Duma were put out of play. Still, half a year seems short, you're right about that. But I'd like to see proof either way.