Britbong here. You elected Trump on a mandate to do a bunch of stuff, like build a wall and halt mudslime immigration. Why you so mad now he's doing everything he said in double quick time???? He's like the most efficient politician ever!
>>720989289 this man speaks the truth. what other politician has kept his word on everything he said he was going to do. It's only the snowflakes that lost protesting. the ones who voted for him are just sitting back laughing.
>>720990958 Yes cause 100% of those who voted have not changed their mind at all after seeing him now. Surely everyone who voted hillary must still hate trump and everything about him. Now and forever.
Because Americans made fun of people who were worrying about Trump. They were mocking and saying: he is just trolling you with his mega-wall and his immigration ban and his crazy statements. You are such snowflakes that you are triggered easily by mere words. Trump is not the boogeyman you th..........except he was and he is.
60m people isn't a majority. It is approximately 1/5th. Some are too young, some don't fucking bother. I agree, more should've voted, but lets not try to fluff 60m into 160m. If you think Trump represents "half", then you're a echo-chamber autist Alex Jones dildo-carrier.
>>720991723 >most people love trump, only snowflakes don't! >but most people don't love trump >well he won didn't he? faget! >but he lost the popular vote, so he's demonstrably NOT loved by most >ur to stupid to understand the electoral college! Every Trump thread.
Don't you find it odd that he did not ban any countries where he does business? He is only creating isis sympathy with this ban. We can't defeat them without the help of muslims. Otherwise Dump's plan must be a Normany style invasion in Syria with a million US soldiers.
>>720992197 >this non-issue Nigger, the countries banned were from Obama era. Everyone is like >da sowdeez da sowdeez deey did nyne-levin Yet the Saudis haven't done jack since. Everwhere else is war torn or controlled by ISIS but people are gonna point fingers at business over government.
>>720992724 >Bullshit, he had to help run and manage his mother's realty company before he got anywhere near where his today. I guess you've never owned a rental. The mother thing scares me, because it was his fathers... But whatever. Theres a problem, you make a phonecall, sign some papers. Its cake. When people say "he never worked a day in his life", I think thats basically true. Maybe if you add up all the work hours, he might have worked 24 hours in the last fifty years. But not an actual day.
>>720992987 >No you're not. You're a constitutional republic. Simply put, a representative democracy is a system of government in which all eligible citizens vote on representatives to pass laws for them. A perfect example is the U.S., where we elect a president and members of the Congress. We also elect local and state officials.May 18, 2015
>>720993438 So is letting all the faggots fleeing those countries in, we don't know if ISIS is hiding among them or if they're agents from other radical right-wing groups. On top of that, it's not even our responsibility, which is more incentive to place our welfare over theirs before we try to help them.
>>720993963 Culture shock my ass, you want to let in a potential and very serious terror threat that could take take the country down into a pandemonium because >muh feelings Go to the real world some time, it's not our job to let people who are too cowardly, weak, or otherwise unable to fight their own wars while their enemies walk among them to the places they flee.
>(subtract the AT LEAST 800,000 votes from non-citizens in favor of Hillary) >http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/
>Trump 62,985,105 >Hillary 65,053,625
>Population of US: 319 Mil
>Subtract those 17 and younger: 76.2 million (24 percent) >www.aecf.org/resources/the-changing-child-population-of-the-united-states/
>Subtract felons who cannot vote: 6.1 million >www.sentencingproject.org/issues/felony-disenfranchisement/
>Subtract illegal immigrants in the US: 12 million >www.cairco.org/issues/how-many-illegal-aliens-reside-united-states
>319 Mil - 94.3 Mil
>224,700,000 Eligible voters.
>Trump 62,985,105 / 224,700,000 = 28% of the popular vote >Hillary 65,053,625 / 224,700,000 = 28.9% of the popular vote
The difference in the Popular Vote was less than 1%
Despite the fact that Trump won 3,084 of 3,141 counties in the US (the vote that DOES matter), liberals still believe the LESS THAN 1% difference in the Popular Vote (The Vote that's never decided an election in the history of the US) matters.
>>720993963 >you're just a pussy Kek, I bet if there was a military effort to overthrow the Assad regime to stop the rapefugee crisis, this guy would refuse to join because war scare him and is immoral. What a joke; when did all these virtue signalling, accomplish nothing redditors come from?
>>720992197 Don't you find it odd that liberals point to the countries NOT on the list to try and somehow excuse taking those on the list off?
Backwards ass logic from the left kek
>I'm in my house >I can be killed by a house fire, a flood, robbery >I didn't do anything to prepare for a robbery, so this fire extinguisher I bought to stop house fires is fucking stupid and completely pointless!
Yeah that's totally what it is. Tell me genius, why are most of the refugees men of military age leaving their wives and children behind? Surely they wouldn't leave them behind to face unimaginable horrors on their own?
liberals would shoot themselves in the head if someone told them it would help a militant refugee. It's fucking sad honestly.
>>720991218 >Trump immediately does a bunch of unpopular stupid bullshit >Breaks the law by violating a court order in his first week in office >Starts telling dumb lies on day 1 because his tiny inauguration hurt his ego >Surely people are loving him
>>720995934 >DEMOCRAT-LIKE PLATFORM President Theodore Roosevelt prohibited immigration to the U.S. of anyone who believed in polygamy, promoted it or lived in a country that practiced it. (Aka muslims)
>DEMOCRAT President Jimmy Carter banned Iranian immigration during his presidency to deter the possibility of homeland attacks during and following the Iranian hostage situation. (Aka muslims)
>DEMOCRAT President Obama banned Iraq immigration to the US for nearly a year in 2011 to ensure dangerous potential-terrorists didn't make it to the US (aka muslims)
>REPUBLICAN President Trump is banning people from militant countries with no central governments to speak of and hotbeds for training terrorists, trafficking narcotics, and other crimes (Aka muslims)
Are you seeing a pattern here?
Democrats put an immigration ban in: >"Oh what a great and progressive guy" Republicans do the exact same thing: >"OMG he's literally Hitler! Racist! Time to protest!"
This is why no one takes liberals seriously. Pathetic. A laughing stock.
>>720996002 Great attempt at pigeon-holing an argument. The guy in the link I posted ONLY plowed over multiple people with an SUV >(wasn't trying to kill anybody or anything) then got out after his vehicle got stuck and began wildly stabbing at people >(but he was totally peaceful) until police officers engaged and shot him down
You sound like a fucking idiot and this is why no one takes your opinion seriously. You're also pigeon-holing and trying to say you can't logically conclude that these countries are dangerous when they carry out routine terrorist attacks on an almost-daily basis within their own countries and neighboring countries in the region and throughout Europe.
A federal judge issued an emergency hold on his travel ban. He blew it off and ordered it to be carried out anyway.
That's illegal, dipshit.
>>720996016 >President Trump is banning people from militant countries with no central governments to speak of and hotbeds for training terrorists, trafficking narcotics, and other crimes (Aka muslims)
What the fuck are you talking about? Is that why he banned travel from Saudi Arabia (you know, where Osama Bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers and LAST YEAR'S San Bernardino shooting bitch came from)? Or Afghanistan, the country that housed Al Qaeda for years? Or Pakistan which knowingly shielded Osama Bin Laden after he fled Afghanistan?
No, he puts a ban from Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria, Somalia, Libya and Sudan. 7 countries whose immigrants have committed no fatal terrorist attacks since 9/11.
>>720995934 My main problem with Trump is that I am pretty sure ww3 is going to start because he finds out a few world leaders are calling him names behind his back and not letting him sit at their table during lunch.
Assuming that EVERY person in EVERY one of the countries on Trumps immigration ban list are muslim (which they very clearly are not) that would still only be
Syrian population- 22.85 million Iraq population- 33.42 million Libya population- 6.2 million Yemen population- 24.41 million Sudan population- 37.96 million Somalia population- 10.5 million Iran population- 77.45 million
212.79 million / 1.6 billion = 13% of muslims worldwide at the ABSOLUTE MOST.
Nearly 90% of all muslims are still free to come and go as they please.
>OMG ITS A MUSLIM BAN! TRUMPS BANNING ALL THE MUSLIMS! RACIST! ISLAMOPHOBE!
Liberals can't help but make themselves look stupid as fuck almost every day. The BEST part is they claim that they're "educated" and EVERYONE ELSE is stupid and doesn't understand.
>>720996405 I never called it a Muslim ban. I mean, Trump called it a ban but I never used that term. He is doing something lazy, harmful and stupid that dipshit supporters like you applaud because it doesn't affect you and you haven't really thought about it beyond "heh fuck those mudslimes."
>>720989289 A bunch of the far left are mad and they're doing their usual tolerant and accepting thing of rioting and burning shit. The media is all over that like flies on shit so they can sell their doomsday story lines because that's what sells newspapers.
Unity and acceptance of others seems only to spread as far as the people who agree with them in terms of the neo-left. I don't remember many riots when Obama stopped immigration from Iraq in 2011.
Left response: But he didn't ban them outright and it was only one country!
Fuck off. It was six months of a "slowdown" in processing because there was a "direct threat"... as though ISIS isn't a direct threat and is based in just one fucking country.
The older I get the more I realise just how much I fucking hate liberals and I'm not even a conservative.
>>720996286 >7 countries whose immigrants have committed no fatal terrorist attacks since 9/11 Wait, so the rest of the world doesnt counts. So if terrorist commit terrorist in "not america" they are no longer terrorist?
>>720990621 Yeah fuck commies but man we sure do love Putin that guy is just swell. Also fuck anyone who doesn't love the military nevermind that Trump dodged the draft a few times and would never dare have his family enlist.
>>720995250 >>720995820 >>720995854 >Muh Feelings >Ad Hominem >Cuck cuck cuck cuck Not an argument. It's funny that Trump supporters accuse OTHERS of basing political ideology and views on feelings when they themselves voted for a president out of fear.
That's right: you're emotional and scared of change and terrorism so you vote for a man like Trump to halt progressive discourse. Because you are scared.
>>720995641 I wouldn't want to fight in a war against a tyrant like Assad no. Hence why I am advocating that America open it's borders for refugees. Don't pretend like you would have the balls to willingly fight to overthrow Assad either if you could avoid it. Internet tough guy.
>>720995854 Nice cherry picking. http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619 What are Americans so afraid of? Sounds like radical Islam is just a drop of water compared to the rest of the terrorist groups attacking on US soil.
>Tell me genius, why are most of the refugees men of military age leaving their wives and children behind? Surely they wouldn't leave them behind to face unimaginable horrors on their own? What is this based on? Got a source?
Or maybe you are just latching onto the fact that most young men between 18 - 24 don't have a wife and kids yet (shocking I know)
Not everyone has kids by 15 outside of your backwater shithole, Cleetus.
God, I thought /pol/ would fuck off after the election but it looks like they're here to stay. Shitting up threads and spilling over from their containment board.
>Obama kills hundreds of children from those very same region
>Silence from the left.
You're hypocrites to the core. You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You don't really give a shit about muslims or refugees, you just want to shout down anything Trump does because you lost the election. Literally no one is fooled, you fucking clowns.
>>720996655 >Obama stopped immigration from Iraq in 2011.
Except he didn't. He put extra checks onto Iraqi immigrants after two were discovered to have built IEDs in Iraq. This slowed down Iraqi Visa approvals, and didn't stop them outright. And it was for a whopping six months.
Trump's ban is for 3 months and was prompted by absolutely nothing, it affects 7 times as many countries, it affects all travelers from those countries (which initially included legal permanent US residents) and he wants to make it permanent.
>>720996770 >Has to Google his word of choice >Copy/pastes the first result >Hmm well he isn't actually repeating himself but I'll just say he is while totally ironically repeating myself. >Now who looks stupid?
>>720996739 >What are Americans so afraid of? This is what gets me the most. These Trump supporters are supposed to be the tuff guys, all about their guns and country. Don't tread on me what the fucks. But they are such spineless cowards when it comes to terrorists. What the fuck are they afraid of? Shit happens, it's gonna happen, people are gonna die. You, probably not. Stop being such pussies.
>>720997078 It makes me laugh when I get (You)s from all the Trumpanzees who say shit like "Hurr why don't they stay and fight and die" when none of these lazy asses would have the balls to fight if their own country collapsed in civil war.
It's the right thing to allow convicted felons a voice in how the nation is run. I'm sure their moral compass and personal ideals are just as valid as, say, people who haven't committed murder for example.
>>720996739 How was my citation of a somali terrorist attack on American soil Ad hominem or emotional based? It wasn't and you sound like an idiot just using words because you saw some other people use them.
I like how you keep focusing so hard on only America so you can ignore the fact that muslims carry out the majority of terrorist attacks worldwide. You're terrified to admit his measures are actually a good thing and the only one really cherry picking here is you
>muslims are peaceful people! >if I find a statistic that ONLY focuses on the US >if I ignore the 1,000s they're killing all over the globe on a regular basis >if I ignore the fact that they preach militant hate for people not in the same religion >If I ignore they're currently beheading Christian children for being Christian in the middle east RIGHT NOW
United Nations says 72% of Syrian “refugees” are MEN, only 13% are children
>>720996979 So what was Trump's criteria for picking these 7 countries?
Saudi Arabia is perhaps the most radical fundamentalist Muslim nation on Earth and is the home nation of Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 hijackers and last summer's San Bernardino shooter.
They aren't banned.
How about Afghanistan and Pakistan? Current hotbeds of terrorism?
Not them either.
Yeah, fuck those guys...
>>720997214 So after someone has served their sentence and are free they should basically go fuck themselves and never have a say in what affects them or their family ever again?
You right-wing dickholes will come out swinging to ensure that violent felons can get their guns back because MUH SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE ONLY AMENDMENT I CARE ABOUT but god forbid they get the right to vote back.
>>720996739 You wouldn't want to fight because you don't really care for these people, you only want to use them as leverage to sit on top of a high horse and berate others for disagreeing with you. That's why you'd chicken out, because people like you don't actually care, you just wanna look good without having to do any work for yourself and couldn't face the music if the time were to come to actually help them because you know you could get your brains bashed by bullets to serve a cause that would undo your moral peity. Me, I largely don't care about these people; their lives are inconsequential to me and this nation. Their deaths are part of human nature which consumes and destroys when it isn't building. They are the weak that is being weeded out by those superior to them and being cleansed from the gene pool, and for the better given the global population issue. My only concern is their war interfering with other nations lives, because it isn't their problem. These people have to sort it out themselves or die trying, as is the way of life.
And they wonder why everyone is laughing at them when they think they have a "legitimate" opinion on an issue and are basically just whining and breaking shit in protests when they don't get their way. :^)
>>720997386 >Heavily implies that wanting to escape a warzone is cowardly >Wants to ban millions of people from entering the country even if they already live here because a couple of them might decide to try and kill people, maybe
>Literally the failed state that is now a militant muslim caliphate known as ISIS where they routinely kill women and children by the thousands and behead, drown, and pour acid on anyone who disagrees with them
>Totally not a threat
>Why is this country on the list?! It makes no sense!
I don't even think liberals realize how fucking stupid they really sound. Again, you just want to bitch and whine because you lost an election and you won't admit to yourself that it doesn't matter WHAT he does, you're going to try and find an excuse to continue bitching and whining. It's cool though, I prefer 8 years to 4 anyway, so keep it up crybabies. :^)
Because our argument has two sides? SJW are corrupt and ignore scientists, focusing on identity just empowers identity as a judgment-worthy concept. Trump just leveraged knowledge of what was going on versus the fears that have been created. You just kinda handed it to him on a silver platter, the media lied for what they believed were the right reasons trying to "poll flog" him and it blew up right in their fucking face. Jesus.
>>720992197 Lame duck response. He does business in many place beyond those few that you speak of. And of those you speak of, they are all war torn ISIS holdouts. So I do NOT find it strange at all. This has nothing to do with business. Unless Obama knew that when he made the list. Liberals are mentally retarded.
>>720997453 I didn't realize america was currently in a civil war. All I see is "faggot liberal snowflakes" taking to the streets and punching white supremacists, while Trump hats are whinnying about how they are being too violent.
>>720993963 We don't want em. Plain and simple. We could care less. Send them to some other country in Africa. They don't assimilate into our culture, thus it's not a fit. It doesn't work in Europe and it won't work here. End of story.
>>720997439 It is cowardly, you should go towards the danger and defend what you have, not flee like a sniveling bitch and beg people to support you. Weakness, much like preaching about love has led to universal decay in morals, rights, and laws. These times are a brutal reminder that every day for every person is a conflict, and the only options are death and fighting for survival. Fleeing at the sounds of gunshots is not survival, it's selfish cowardice that shows how spineless people are. I can understand tactical retreats but the only tactical thing is the efficiency of Assad wiping the floor with these mongrels. That isn't to say he himself is not one, but we should not be siding with his victims recieving the just treatment they deserve.
>>720997439 >Heavily implies that wanting to escape a warzone is cowardly
No. When you have a civil war (which is what Syria is going through right now) and the men leave their children and wives/girlfriends behind to be slaughtered while they run away and start a new life in another country instead of staying and fighting for their beliefs.
>>720997691 Who said there was a civil war? We only see the hypocritical violence and hate the liberals are supposedly against being comitted by them which is comical if not sobering as to why neither the left nor right should have major control over the American people.
>>720997591 It's not about liberals whining about losing (yeah of course some of the stupid tumbler fags who don't know shit are), It's that someone is the leader of their country that they very strongly reject, and they are fighting against it. From the other side all I see is "ha ha you lost, now get over it" attitudes. It's not about winning or losing, it's about fighting for what you believe in. A lot of those liberals seem to be doing that. I know what looks better from where I sit.
>>720997262 If you look you will see that I quoted you twice. The first one was a mistake.
You posted a terror attack on US soil. I respond by showing you just how little Islamic extremism accounts for terrorist attacks. You move the goalposts and "B-but look at the rest of the world!". They is no debating with this kind of cognitive dissonance.
>muslims carry out the majority of terrorist attacks worldwide Source? Even if it were true Muslims account for 1.1 billion people in the world, kind of makes sense they would top the polls for stuff like this no? Considering the turmoil America has caused in the middle east to bring about this kind of shit. You kind of have yourself to blame with your interventionalist policies.
>terrified to admit his measure are actually a good thing Trumps measures for countering Islamic extremism is like burying your head in the sand and hoping your problems will go away.
>72% of Syrian "refugees" are MEN, only 13% are children Love how you put quotation marks around refugees, lol.
What's your point stranger? Are Syrian men no more entitled to the rights to live than women? or children? or 1st worlders? Not only that but that are ONLY the statistics for Syria. So you made a claim that you only partly verified, and doesn't really mean much.
>>720997916 That's the problem, all you see is supposedly peace loving liberals, so it looks hypocritical. There are alot more groups and ideologies than that who really don't like what is going on. Some of those are not the nonviolent type.
>>720993963 The filthy mud-slimes can rot in hell for all I care. I have actually been to the boonies of the middle east. There is routine sexual abuse of little boys, children too young to know better get their hands cut off because they took something, and little girls are married off to 60y.o men.
Its not a little culture shock, it a culture of fucking degenerates.
Fuck Islam fuck Muslims they can all die in syria.
>>720998015 >an approval rating for literally 72 hours is indicative of his approval rating throughout a 4 year presidency
Sure, kid. I can pick out a 72 hour period throughout 8 years where obama's approval rating was half of anything you can find for trump. Not hard, but not legitimate either.
>>720998076 While I agree with your sentiments about protesting, it's the substance of the protests and the time they're occurring I have a problem with. It's obviously clear (if you go and talk to any of these actual protestors, which I have) that they do not know WHAT they believe in. A lot of them are using it as an excuse to a) take a day off work/school and b) shit-talk trump. They don't know actual statistics or facts, they refuse to listen to actual statistics and facts (like the ones I've posted throughout this thread) and a lot of them couldn't even find most of these countries on a map.
In all honesty, the majority of the country (including a lot of democrats) don't have time for their dumb shit, are not listening to their "protests" and are just going to work, taking care of their families, etc as usual because the vast majority of people are starting to see how a militant branch of the left is running up and down their streets, trashing shit, breaking windows and setting fires and it's turning people even more against whatever point of view they're trying to get across.
>>720997830 Once again, the leftist exposes hypocrisy while riding his convenient high horse. Allow to elaborate the point about love. >all you need is love >love and accept others >love Trumps hate >love different people Where has that gotten us exactly? Only more crime, more war, lack of judgement, blindly following the vox populi, and allowing people to run and ruin your life. It's ok to be a liar if you did it for love. It's ok to hurt people because the consensus of your echo chamber says you did the right thing, and detractors are wrong. It's ok for me to hate white people because I love minorities. Get the jist? The left has corrupted their own values; they are now the Puritans, the new McCarthyists. The love I speak of is the same love that escalates racial tensions in black people and cops, the same love that treats the most minute of symptoms in the world's problems and welcomes parasites into our society. Step off your horse and use logical discernment instead of projecting and making ad hominems despite peobably calling them out yourself. The new president marks an era of change, one where people don't have to pay mind to the self-righteous leftists nor the self-righteous right-wingers.
>>720998080 They don't like the way things are headed, and are willing to fight and resist for that. They don't want mob rule they want a rule that they think is fair and just. That might involve doing things that are illegal. So yeah, they are violent criminals, pretty sure they do not see that as a bad thing.
>>720998300 The greater problem is even the ones who claim to be peace loving are acting out. A man who just wanted to the inaguration was blocked by people holding signs like "love Trumps hate." How can you say that, then act against your fellow man because he only wishes to view history that only comes once every four years because you yourself hate the president yet want tolerance and peace?
With Trump pushing this agenda, the majority of the american population will think its fine to treat muslims as second class citizens, even though 99% of them just want to work for a living. Then this hate extends to every brown person, muslim or not, and there are a whole lot more of them
>>720998102 Cognitive dissonance is you keeping your head in the sand and basing your argument off "hurrr durr they didn't happen in America so why put them on a list" when, again, the people from those countries commit hundreds of terrorist attacks all over the globe every year.
You want to keep your fingers in your ears and yell "lalala" and you look like a straight up moron, honestly.
Sunni Muslim terrorists committed more than 70% (8,886) of the 12,533 terrorist murders in 2011
The information comes from the 2011 NCTC Report on Terrorism, which is based on information available as of March 12, 2012.
“Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”
So you can't attack my valid points with actual logic, you just resort to critiquing characters in my post. Cute, really.
My POINT is, when the overwhelming number of these "refugees" are military age men, and not women and children, you need to stop trying to peddle your liberal sob-story bullshit about how we should care about their "terrible conditions" when they clearly don't give one fuck about their families in the first place or they'd bring them with them when they immigrate.
You couldn't be a bigger hypocrite if you tried. Tell us why we should give a fuck about them when they're more than happy to leave their kids behind to be slaughtered? Answer: we shouldn't.
>>720989289 I'm Canadian and I've been keeping up with this shit. Trump is just as good as Obama or better imo. He's got a bit of an ego but who doesn't? He's overcome quite a bit over his early years and recently has overcome the liberals, the liberal media, all the (imo) uneducated haters, "feminist " movement and clearly racists. I say give the guy a chance he just got into power.
>>720998566 You need to stop peddling this "hur durr we're so oppressed by every American" narrative.
>99% of them just want to work for a living
>Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie as long as it furthers the spread of their religion or it's agenda.
No one's buying the bullshit anymore. While a vast majority of muslims don't carry out attacks, the vast majority of them DO condone it. You don't want people to discriminate against you? Then clean fucking house and get the radical assholes out. But you won't do that. You know that, I know that.
You need to stop trying to peddle this lie that Americans "hate" all muslims for no good reason when a) the vast majority of Americans don't hate them to begin with and b) even if they did, they'd have every reason to based on their constant outcries to overthrow "The American devil." You know, the shit they're chanting in Iran basically every day? Yeah. The truth hurts.
We aren't regretting it. This is an age old leftist tactic to try and trick people into think that people regret their vote. They use a statistic like 49 percent of people regret Trump election/Brexit when in fact that was just the 49 percent who already didn't want those two things.
Oh and the Trumpgret thing is completely stupid because they found like 20 people out of 60 million voters who regret their decision.
>>720998742 The government of other countries is not the totality of its people.
Your logic would basically doom all citizens of a totalitarian oppressive regime because "well if they treat people like shit then obviously we shouldn't be any better to their people."
And even if I accepted your frankly retarded take on this it still wouldn't paint anyone as hypocritical, you goon. You really, really don't know what a hypocrite is. It's shocking really that you have such a piss-poor understanding of the word.
>>720998865 Donald Trump actively encouraged his supporters to violence during the campaign including a (reneged) promise to pay their legal fees if they got arrested for attacking people.
And I like how you included a clearly very insane man who thought Donald Trump was going to be at a Walmart in Ithaca for some reason and then murdered some random ass UPS driver because he thought he was Trump.
> You dipshits need to stop pretending the people who supported Trump are the ones on the wrong side of history when it's very clearly YOU.
That's why Trump is going back to isolationist "America First" rhetoric from fucking WWII and promising to piss away $20B on a useless wall that will be an embarrassment to this nation for generations.
>>720998991 I responded to him by explaining the extreme relevance of those approval ratings in relation to this thread. Calling someone stupid while doing so is not ad hominem. I love when morons think name calling suddenly invalidates an argument because they have no idea what ad hominem is but know it has something to do with insults... or something.
>>720993045 Biggest terrorist attack in US history, complains they haven't followed up, despite being responsible for more deaths in that one incident than all other terrorist attacks combined.
American: "Hey, it was a one off and they're giving us a discount on oil in UAE!"
Syrian: shit, my family has been killed, my kids brainwashed and sent out with guns, I just want sanctuary somewhere. My countrymen have never been responsible for a terrorist incident in the US and have killed 0 Americans.
American: "got oil?" No? "Diamonds?" No. "Well fuck off then."
>>720997439 find a country that's in civil war with the population that wants to flee as much as Syria's.
escaping a war zone i get for your wife n kids. but the throng of men that want to go western countries for free to get a better life instead of fighting for their own home. shitty sellouts with no pride or moral compass. you fight, and quell the civil war and stabilize. you don't run to the countries bombing your homeland fighting your fucking war and profit on their soil. leeches and scum.
>>720998541 >The greater problem is even the ones who claim to be peace loving are acting out I don't see that as a problem. About time those peace loving and tolerant hippies actually got angry and did something. I'm just an edgy teenage faggot kiddo who doesn't know shit though so fuck me of course.
>>720998669 >Cognitive dissonance is you keeping your head in the sand and basing your argument off "hurrr durr they didn't happen in America so why put them on a list" when, again, the people from those countries commit hundreds of terrorist attacks all over the globe every year. Do you know how statistics work? If you take a country that is around 99% Islamic, the main perpertrators in crimes such as terrorism are going to be committed overwhelmingly by Muslims. You take statistics like these and repurpose them for your own ends to portray Islam as a whole as bad when, comparatively, in countries such as the US with a small muslim population the number of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims is much smaller (suprise suprise). You are a useful idiot to the elite, your fear and bigotry being used as leverge for political gain.
>Sunni Muslim terrorists committed more than 70% (8,886) of the 12,533 terrorist murders in 2011. The vast majority of which, are done against other muslims. In islamic countries. But yeah, keep hating muslims as a whole.
>Blah blah blah critiquing my post I see you glossed over the points I made just underneath. Oh wait, a few lines below I see you addressed them. (Hint: just like I did, lol)
>My POINT is Have you ever been in a war son? Do you know difficult it is to keep your family together when you are fleeing a country with two belligerent groups fighting for control? Have you considered the fact that a good number of the people who are fleeing left their family because they are already dead in a ditch somewhere when they tried to evade? No? Then shut the fuck up, or actually take this shit into account because it matters. I don't get it. Are you trying to say that only women and children should be fleeing war-torn countries or something? Because that's a silly and contentious point at best when you are debating the livelyhood of a people who have survived the civil unrest that the WE (the west) has caused.
The fuck are you even talking about? All it is is a ban on the countries which the government has deemed not safe to allow in. Your media and ex establishment have not taught you to not look at things objectively but only through the "anyone who disagrees with me or has even differentiating views is racist" goggles.
>>720999117 Remind me just what was it you did that makes you the great Satan?
Oh that's right, you invaded, deposed their leader and then installed a puppet democracy. Using the same blueprint as so many times in the past, then claiming the people wanted Halliburton there fixing shit up.
>>720999301 Here comes the libtardedness again. A few guys on a plain, not matter their atrocities or not speak for an entire nation. By that logic, that rambo guy in Canada is proof that all Canadians are like that and should be avoided, lest they toute big muscles and knives. It's also the same retarded logic that warrants hate towards Austrians because Hitler was from there. Meanwhile among the refugees could be Wahhabist cells posing as refugees. No smart nation just lets hordes of people in before trying to consider a way to insure that enough of them aren't Wahhabist and won't bring the wars right into our living room, and no amount of pathos rhetoric is going to change that.
>>720999401 >>Sunni Muslim terrorists committed more than 70% (8,886) of the 12,533 terrorist murders in 2011. The vast majority of which, are done against other muslims.
These are pew numbers for worldwide attacks you massive idiot. You just proved, without a doubt, that you can't be bothered to even read sources and citations thoroughly let alone be open to an opposing viewpoint. Why should anyone, at this juncture, give one fuck what you have to say honestly? You clearly just want to shove your agenda forward despite how wrong it is.
>Have you been in a war son Yes. I have. You want to cite any source whatsoever that substantiates your claim that:
>have you ever considered their families are dead in a ditch somewhere
because otherwise you're full of shit. And this is the problem with your arguments. They're all feel-good "muh feelings" fuckin "hurr durr imagine IF" scenarios, whereas every one of my arguments so far has been actual facts, numbers, statistics supported by multiple citations.
You're just some self-hating faggot with no support for your positions and too stupid to just admit you could be wrong with the overwhelming amount of numbers and evidence say you are.
No skin off my back, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you can see through your juvenile-tier bullshit a mile away is all I'm saying.
>>720999404 >ban on the countries which the government has deemed not safe You are correct, that is what it is. He previous administration even came up with the list. The problem is why now? What serious immediate threat against the US which wasn't there a week ago made this essential right now. There is no reason security wise to do this right now. This was a calculated move to bring about certain response from the populous, and it worked. This was not done for your safety, but to advance the agenda of a few who do not give a single shit about you.
>>720999459 >pretending Halliburton was even "fixing shit up" when the Iran hostage crisis happened.
Sure, kid. It's totally not a centuries-old tenet of islam that was re-fashioned into radical wahabism ideology that most muslims agree with, even today, and support with taqiyya on an almost-daily basis.
Must've been old dick cheney doing mean things, yeah that's totally it!
>>720989289 libs expected him to be duplicitous and never deliver on what he promised. because that's what politicians usually do, and that is exactly the reason we needed someone like Trump to re-establish the expectancy of politicians to actually do what they say they will.
It's just going to have a somewhat uncomfortable adjustment period where some people who are so used to politicians being "that person I can always count on to tell me what I want to hear" adjust to this new and unfamiliar scenario of "say what you really mean, then do what you said you would".
>>720999817 You are using facts to try and substiantiate your claims, but at the end of the day, saying that Trump's policies are good are not are purely based on opinion. I offer an alternative conclusion to the facts you posted and you just throw a hissy fit.
You still haven't given a reason why women and children should take priority over men when being given refugee status. Who gives a shit if they are 99% men and 1% children? At the end of the day they are human beings and you should treat them like they are. If you did there would be a damn sight more integration that would lead to less terror attacks. But you can't see past your bigoted preconceptions about 1/6th of the planet.
This is what I dislike about the average American: they have been voting for politicians that fuck up the middle east and then they act like it will be fine to forcibly close their borders and pretend that they are isolationalist. If it wasn't for America there would be no ISIS in the first place, no refugee crisis and a lot less terrorism. But no, this is the future you chose, so take the consequences like a man.
>>721000422 Holy shit, look at this kid throwing up straw men and ad hominem fallacies left and fucking right when he gets triggered by the actual facts i posted
>You are using facts, I offer an alternative conclusion
Yes, I'm using cited and sourced facts from the UN that are unbiased. As of yet, you haven't posted one source (valid or invalid) to substantiate your position or views. Could it be that you might be wrong? Are you implying you're more educated than the UN now?
>You still haven't given a reason why women and children should take priority over men when being given refugee status
Are you literally fucking retarded? At no point ITT did I say or imply this statement. I'm still waiting for your citation about "hurr durr their families are in ditches somewhere." You have no sources. You have no facts. Your position is worthless.
>If you did there would be a damn sight more integration that would lead to less terror attacks.
You are clearly just ITT to push pro-globalization, pro-multicultural agenda so hard that you're seriously trying to excuse grown ass men leaving their wives and children behind in a civil war while they coast to places like the US and live in comparable luxury.
You are sick in the fucking head. Plain and simple.
> If it wasn't for America there would be no ISIS in the first place, no refugee crisis and a lot less terrorism
Top it off with a little more self-hate
Take a good look at this, anons. This is what a liberal college professor tries to shove down some kids throat every single day. That guy's post is THE definition of being brainwashed.
>>721001041 I'm not here to change any minds, but that alone isn't a reason to just not set you idiots straight. I don't expect any liberals to change their minds. I've posted "walls of text" throughout this thread that refute whatever excuses you have that you think hold water and torn each one down with logic.
A normal person might consider the fact that they COULD be wrong but, no, you can't do that. Even in the face of logic, you simply are incapable of pulling your head out of the sand. Again, no skin off my back, but you should really stop with the "hurr durr we educated" meme when this thread and multiple others have proven that you are anything but that.
In short, you're more than welcome to have your own perspective, but if your ideas are batshit crazy (like most every liberal idea out there) do not expect someone to treat you like you're sane.
>Science says liberals, not Conservatives, are psychotic
>I am using facts from the UN that are unbiased. You are taking said facts out of context to create a culture of fear. Yes the majority of terrorist attacks in the world are committed by muslims, unsuprisingly when you realise that they are the second largest group of people on earth.
>At no point ITT did I say or imply this statement. So then I don't have cite the dead families (common sense by the way, in wars people die lol) seeing as you are going nowhere with the claim you made, I retract my statement. Congratulations, you have proven that there are more adult male refugees than female and child refugees... So. What. Is. Your. Fucking. Point? You keep saying this but it doesn't mean anything at all. Am I meant to look at this statistic and say "Oh no theres an awful lot of men trying to escape this war. I hate men. Fuck em. Better vote for Trump"! But yeah you win. More adult men are refugees. next point.
>Buzzwords and hogwash that I read on Breitbart and infowars! Ooooh you're one of THOSE people. An alt-righter who insists that there is some vast Jewish conspiracy to bring the world under one government. Fuck off to /x/ with this trash.
>trying to excuse grown ass men leaving their wives and children behind Lol. Not every man who is military aged is married with kids. Meaningless statement.
>Self-hate You mean introspection? You think learning from your mistakes is a bad thing? I love how I say I dislike that the average American holds bigoted views and you shit your pants. You say you HATE muslims and they are terrorists and everybody is just supposed to accept that. Right, no. Again fuck off.
>Take a good look Lol. >Cries about ad hominem >Ends his post with ad hominem Take a good look at this, anons, this is what a hypocrite looks like. A hypocrite because he uses straw men and ad hominem but cries about other people supposedly doing the same. Complete garbage post.
>>721001455 >the majority of terrorist attacks in the world are committed by muslims
But you said earlier ITT that muslims were generally peaceful people. One of the statements has to be wrong. Could it be you or do the United Nations just not know what they're talking about? Hmmm.
>So then I don't have to cite dead families
No, you have to cite bullshit claims you pull out of your ass that are not based in reality.
You can't just ignore a statistic that makes you uncomfortable and say "take it off the table" when you're trying to argue the "why" of immigration and the "why" is often the most important part. The "WHY" is actually why most people do not want them coming here.
>Oh no theres an awful lot of men trying to escape this war. I hate men. Fuck em. Better vote for Trump
Again, putting words in my mouth. Syria is a civil war. Fact. The majority of refugees (almost 80% are men). Fact. If you run from your homeland and leave your wife and little girls, little boys behind, you are a coward. Fact.
So what, we let them hang out in the US for a few years, after years of them hating us in the middle east, give them sanctuary, waste billions of our own people's tax money on taking care of them, then let them go BACK to Syria after we've wasted another TRILLION in a military campaign to wipe out their bullies for them? All so they can go back to Syria and go back to talking their shit and hating us again? No thanks. No sane person would argue in favor of this.
>buzzwords and hogwash breitbart info wars!
At what point did I use any buzzwords? You're the one falling back on "breitbart" and "info wars" when I've never viewed either of the two. Are you just scared of big words and truth or what? Seems that way. Point out my "buzzwords and hogwash", where are they exactly?
>Not every man who is military aged is married with kids.
And for the 100th time, at no point did I say this. Stop. Putting. Words. In. My. Mouth. Simple.
>>720996286 >No fatal terrorists attacks since 9/11 >Being this retarded Can't you see that he is preventing what happened to Germany? They let those sand niggers from Syria in and it caused nothing but terror attacks and women being raped on the street.
>>721001845 >muslims were generally a peaceful people. Indeed, the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful. A minority are respondible for these attacks.
>why most people do not want them coming here You don't want the refugees because they're predominantly men? I don't get what you are saying. Make a point so I can refute it.
Give me a reason why this is a bad thing and I will give you your citation. Otherwise I won't because your point is moot anyway :)
>Putting words in my mouth I was being facetious.
>If you run from your homeland and leave your wife and little girls, little boys behind, you are a coward. Fact. Any citations for all the wife and kids that are being left behind? I'm afraid I'm not quite convinced that the 80% male refugees are all (or even a majority) leaving behind a wife and kids. And I won't take your word for it.
The rest is just pure conjecture. Whose to say that these people won't work and become fully functional members of society? Not only that but the US is almost solely responsible for the Syrian civil war. The rebels were funded by the US government in a proxy war against the Russian backed Assad, but I digress.
>At what point did I use buzzwords? >pro-globalization, pro-multicultural Buzzwords that are irrelevant to the discussion and are often used by alt-righters to describe their boogeyman. the rest is bullshit about the majority of refugees being men again. Yawn. See the above post.
>Stop saying this I'm not going to sit here and make an argument for you. You are implying that refugees are cowards for fleeing without their wife and kids. Again, source on all these wives and kids that are being left behind, cowboy.
>>721001455 >unsuprisingly when you realise that they are the second largest group of people on earth. Then why should we give them hand outs and let them into our countries for ever changing our race.
>>721002580 >the vast majority of muslims are peaceful And, again, UN statistics say otherwise. Your opinion or UN numbers? I'll go with the United Nations, thanks.
>You don't want refugees because they're predominantly men I'm not going to bother copy-pasting my last post but anyone can see I laid out clear reasons for not wanting them to come to the US. You, like a child, ignored no less than 3 valid points and focused on "hurr durr you don't like men" or something weird and inconsequential.
>I was being facetious No you weren't.
>Any citations for all the... blah blah blah. You haven't posted one single citation ITT and I've already posted at least a dozen. Until you have an actual position backed by facts, you can take your dumb brainwashed ass elsewhere.
>Whose to say that these people won't work...great citizens..blahblahblah...
The very fact that they're willing to a) run from their own civil war and b) leave their wives and children behind and c) even if they don't have wives and children, they're still not willing to fight for their country which is evidenced by them, again, running away at the drop of a hat, shows that they have no allegiance, no integrity, no beliefs that they deem worth fighting for. You're arguing that we should accept people like that? No thanks.
If they're willing to run away as soon as a civil war breaks out from their own country, they clearly won't stand up to anyone who threatens American freedoms and ideals. If you're not willing to fight to defend America, in the off chance it's threatened, we have no obligation to give a shit letting you come here.
Tell me, genius, there are about 10 arab countries in the middle east (and a huge fucking ocean) that are 1,000 times closer to the syrians. Why is it okay for them to refuse to accept refugees when they're literally next door and we, for whatever reason, aren't allowed to do the same? Our sovereignty doesn't matter now? You can go fuck yourself.
>>720991577 he owns over 500 companies, a dozen buildings with his name on them, 15 books, turned 200 mil into 3 billion, hosted a tv show for five seasons, and now he's president. real LAZY guy there!!
These aren't buzzwords, you dipshit. They describe very precise policies and agendas that equate to "open your borders, accepting anyone and everyone in (even without proper security vetting) is the answer to all our problems! Let's interlink our economies (which is what inevitably happens when you accept those immigrants, mexico ring a fucking bell?) and leech off America's prosperity while giving little to nothing back.
Those agendas and policies lost. Globalism is dead. More and more countries are rejecting it. Get over it.
>alt-righters Who's using buzzwords now, faggot? You couldn't be a bigger hypocrite if you tried.
>Sources on all these wives..kids..blah blabh Again, you can play stupid all you want with your corny "cowboy" shit but anyone can scroll up and see that I'm the only one ITT who's posted any actual numbers, facts, and statistics with valid sources and you're still just whining and bitching like a 5 year old who was told to go to time-out.
Your position is garbage. You are garbage. And your way of thinking is going the way of the dinosaurs. Get left behind if you want, I honestly don't give one fuck.
>>721003094 >They don't call the US a melting pot for no reason. Implying its a good thing. If you have a country named the rape capital of the world it must be a good thing in your opinion to right.
First, diversity damages social cohesion and this, in turn, decreases how happy people are and inhibits the economy. You have pointed out that IQ has a stronger impact on national wealth than diversity does. Measured with standardized coefficients, this is true. However, as has been pointed out previously, this entails nothing about the impact of high IQ immigration on national wealth. As has been demonstrated, this model actually predicts that a large influx of east Asian immigration would lower national wealth. This is because such a change would represent a much larger increase, measured in standard deviations, in diversity than it would IQ, and this is true to such an extent that a comparison of standardized regression coefficients is meaningless from a policy perspective.
Second, diversity encourages tribal political conflict within nations. People are naturally “racist” whether we like it or not. Because of this, allowing a significant degree of diversity to exist within a single democratic nation often leads to certain ethnic groups forming voting blocks which vote for their ethnic interest and against that of the rest of society. This creates general social conflict, further damages social cohesion, and often leads to policies that are not in the majorities interest.
>>721003918 Thirdly, diversity encourages race mixing. Now, I realize that this makes some people especially upset, but there are various studies showing that mixed race relationships have a higher than average likelihood of divorce and that mixed race children typically score poorly and a wide variety of life outcome measures. This is true even of White/Asian children. This is most plausibly explained by the fact that mixed race people lack a natural racial in group and, as a result, feel alienated for a good deal of their life. Many mono-racial people can empathize with this by imagining that they lived somewhere in which basically no one was of the same race as themselves. This is the experience that many bi-racial children go through.
Fourthly, the importing of high IQ people from around the world results in “brain drain” in the nations they come from. This creates nations that are stuck in poverty because they lack the high IQ individuals needed to escape this situation in spite of the fact that their population naturally produces a significant number of very intelligent people.
Fifthly, many people in the alt-right enjoy White culture. This is true not only in terms of European science and institutions, but also on a more micro scale concerning things such as food, mannerisms, architecture, and pass times. For such people, a mass importation of high IQ diversity would change their culture in a way that they would not enjoy.
In academic standardized testing (which has a tight correlation to IQ), the wealthiest Black children (>200,000$ annual income) underperform all but the poorest White children (<20,000$ annual income), and just barely outperform even them.
Even when IQ is controlled for, Blacks display higher measurements of psychopathic personality than Whites:
>>721003933 >This is most plausibly explained by the fact that mixed race people lack a natural racial in group and, as a result, feel alienated for a good deal of their life. Can confirm this with one personal case. Had a mulatto friend that never really fit in with white or black kids (especially fucking black kids) in middle and high school. He was a cool guy, pretty smart overall, nothing really wrong with him. But the liberal propaganda that a mixed kid fits in with all groups of people like a fucking DIsney movie is patently false, in my experience.
>>721003252 >UN statistics say otherwise The vast majority of muslims are not extremist. Fact. The statistics provided do not refute this statement, unless you can find a statement that shows that the majority of muslims are extreme then you are wrong. Sorry, truth hurts I know.
>I'm not going to bother copy-pasting my last post but... It's funny but I'm literally going to have to do just that. >The rest is just pure conjecture. Whose to say that these people won't work and become fully functional members of society? Here you go. You didn't make any valid points. Just a lot of assumptions.
Nothing to be scared of. Unless you live in the middle east. Because you'll likely be bombed by the US/Russia or killed by US backed terrorists (ISIS)
Oh and heres a response about your uncited claims about >muh women and children getting left behind! http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php Almost a 50 - 50 split. So I didn't have to refute it because you provided no source, but I did anyhow. Your welcome. Stop spreading misinfo now.
>run from their own civil war Because they don't have weapons, or military training. And being dead doesn't help your family. Simple really, you only need to think for a second to get the answer. What would you rather do? Stay and be bombed? Or try and leave to find a safe place for your family?
lol "Stay and be bombed by my government! theres a good chap!"
>10 arab countries in the middle east http://www.unhcr.org/uk/figures-at-a-glance.html Here you go my good man. The top countries that are hosting these refugees according to the UNHCR are Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Iran, Ethiopia and Jordan. So yeah. They already are accepting refugees. Infact, they are taking the brunt of it.
>>721004385 >So yeah. They already are accepting refugees. Infact, they are taking the brunt of it. That doesn't count the several hundred thousand of refugees and immigrants America already takes in every year, before Syria turned into a shitshow.
>omits pertinent facts >builds a strawman >calls others wrong
>>721004453 >>UN statistics say otherwise >The vast majority of muslims are not extremist. Fact. The statistics provided do not refute this statement, unless you can find a statement that shows that the majority of muslims are extreme then you are wrong. Sorry, truth hurts I know.
If yo faggot don't like Trump, or the fact that he is doing everything he said he would, is America the land or the free, and you are free to GTFO. Bye, see ya. You all do know liberalism is a mental disorder
>>721004586 Hint: they aren't facts if they get refuted.
Furthermore, writing a paragraph about all the possible implications taking in refugees can have on society is just that. Complete guesswork.
>That doesn't count the several hundred thousand of refugees and immigrants American already takes in every year You are correct. It doesn't take this into account because they are statistics showing the top countries that are taking in refugees. America isn't one of the top countries so it is not listed in said statistics.
Fucking donut. Do I have to explain things like you're 5?
>>721004385 Other anons have already ripped your "pseudo-logic" apart but you really went all out with this post kek
>The vast majority of muslims are not extremist >The statistics do not refute this statement
I never claimed the majority were. The majority do, however, hold radical ideas and/or do not speak out against extremism when it occurs. Don't pretend they do. In fact, the only side trying to argue our immigration ban is targeting ANY majority of muslims is the left (whose positions you're trying to defend) when, again, I've already posted actual cited figures ITT that show that's not the case. Stop trying to derail this away from the topic at hand: immigration.
>You didn't make any valid points. Just a lot of assumptions.
A syrian male, with a history of leaving his wife and children behind when a civil war breaks out in his home country, is suddenly going to gain a sense of national identity and defend American principles when they're threatened?
A dog that has a history of biting people will probably bite you if you stick your hand out to is probably "just a lot of assumptions" too, right? I can only hope you'd be stupid enough to put your hand out so it can bite you. You're an evolutionary failure in every sense of the word.
>nothing to be scared of, unless you live in the middle east
Here you go, trying to push some narrative that Americans just bomb anyone and everyone in shit-tier countries and don't actually target terrorists, bomb-makers, those associated with them. You're a clown and a half honestly.
>spreading misinfo now your source in no way refutes my claim or source, but ok
>they don't have weapons or military training Neither did the US when we fought a revolutionary war. We obtained them, we formed resistance, we fought. We didn't run like little faggots. The fact is, the US is the last place you should be running expecting anyone to give a shit about you when you're not willing to stay and fight for what you believe in.
>Sharia law -Orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death -Orders death for Muslims and non-muslims who criticize muhammad and the quaran (and sometimes sharia itself) -Orders apostates (those who leave the muslim faith) to be killed -Orders violent and agressive jihad (holy war) against ANYTHING that disagrees with Islam -Orders anyone who steals (man or woman) to have their hand cut off as punishment
>Basic Tenets of FASCISM
"Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong (and you will be punished).
"Everything is the state". The Government is supreme.
"Religion and government are intertwined" and often one and the same.
"Obession with Crime and Punishment" Self-explanatory.
See any similarities here? Is this "literally hilter" enough for you dumbass liberals? :^)
Tell us again how you're not absolute hypocrites. Really, we need a good laugh.
>>721005148 You're just repeating yourself so I'm just gonna gloss over this. The cognitive dissonance is real kek.
>I never said muslims are extremist >I just said the majority have radical ideas Extremist noun a person who holds extreme political or religious views, especially one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme action. Straight from googling extremist.
>A Syrian male We've been over this. I BTFO'd you're odd obsession with arab men with the statistics in my last post. I won't read further in.
>Americans just bomb anyone They do bomb Syria, and as Trump as said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTHXgmzURM
>refutes my claim >Why is it okay for them (arab countries) to refuse to accept refugees? I provided a source and rekt you and your loaded question.
>Neither did the US when we fought a revolutionary war. War has evolved a little since then grandpa. If you think a war 200 years ago is even remotely comparable...
Lol I'm done here. This is clearly a troll, but I stuck with it until we came full circle and hopefully I have managed to convince people with reason and logic. Adios boys!
>>720989289 No anger here. I like having a president that actually keeps his promises and especially when they are actually beneficial to the country.
What the liberals fail to understand is, Yes you r voices ARE heard, but your message is stupid so we're ignoring it. Like Obama speaking out against Trump's travel ban, when HE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING 6 YEARS AGO!
>>721005673 And this is where liberal logic falls completely apart.
In your first post where you addressed "extremist" we were both agreeing that it was basically synonymous with actual terrorists.
In this post YOU'RE trying to equate extremist with someone who just has radical ideas.
So you tried to use the word wrong to begin with and now you're falling back on it's actual definition when it doesn't work for you?
>Obsession with arab men Stop projecting, remember you're the one trying to argue why it's okay to bring the dipshits in. You didn't BTFO out of anything but, likely, your head against your screen when you were faced with irrefutable facts.
>Trumps words are the same as actual American policy and air strikes overseas
>I rekt your loaded question No. You definitely didn't. My position was the arab countries in the region don't allow immigrants and don't even allow visitors to their country (in a lot of places) if they've even recently visited Israel. They have more than enough capability to take care of the problem themselves, they just choose not to. Aren't liberals the faggots that are always talking about how we shouldn't stick our nose in other regions business? That's precisely what you're advocating for right now.
And you still don't realize what an enormous hypocrite you are.
>War has evolved a little since then The tools of war have changed, the ideas, the integrity, and the principles of it have not.
Stop trying to advocate for taking in some dipshits who already hate us, protecting them until their civil war is done (because they want freedom, but don't want to fight for it), then letting them go back home when their fight is finished while putting the burden of taking care of them on the backs of American taxpayers.
You can fuck right off with your nonsense. You haven't proven a thing but, for the 1,000th time today on 4chan, just how fucking stupid and ass backwards liberal thinking really is.
>>721005853 It's funny because the trap pics only started getting flooded when I was making logical, conservative points with sources that backed it. And the dumbass liberal literally just said "adio boys" and abandoned the thread. But yeah, ok. Don't let us fuck up your echo chamber or anything, snowflake. :^)
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