Are you for the migrants or the natives?

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>>720946072
Americans!

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>>720946072

For the natives, of course

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>>720946248
Good thing we are about to spend 14 billion on a wall instead of helping the homeless vets!

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>>720946524
it will save money in the long term.

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>>720946524

Yes and keeping out the illegal beaners who cost us 115 billion a year! After the three or four years it will take to build we can spend all of that on job creation!

>>720946807
This was made be someone who doesn't understand economics.

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>>720946072
its happening

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posting ITT: young 'uns who are untraveled and poorly educated. This fight's been going on for a looooong time and you dumb xenophobic nativists always lose in the end.

>>720946807
You're not factoring the amount of money saved by employers using illegals as opposed to citizens.

>>720947431
Or any of the wealth generation that occurs apart from the amount of the salary that's seized by the government in taxes. Jesus fuckin' Christ.

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>>720946524
cuz making the wall will gonna make him earn lots of money than helping veterans

>>720947431
that wouldnt bring down government spending

>>720947431
so get mad at the employers and lobby for stiffer punishments you twat

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>>720946072

immigrants

>>720946072

>or the natives

well,america already fucked up there.just ask north dakota

>>720947770
Or Flint. Or Oakland.

>>720946072
Black and White.
Left and right.
All you see is two things in a world of infinitive synthesis.

>>720947838

I'm assuming you're talking about the pipeline which is 50 miles from any lands claimed by the Native Americans?

>>720947666
that's my argument why a wall is stupid. you can easily crack down on employers instead.

>>720947925
What the fuck are you going on about?

>>720947650
Y=C+I+G+(X-M), you goddamned yokel.

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>>720947928
I didn't talk about a pipeline. I'm talking about lead poisoning the water in Flint, Michigan and Oakland, California.
Source?

>>720947770
Nigger have you seen the Indian reservations? I've driven all over this country as an otr trucker and I worked oilfield and it was the dirtiest place I've ever seen. Beat Detroit Chicago Atlanta and those cities are majority nigger. Remember that commercial with the Indian crying cause someone threw trash out the window? He wasn't crying he littered he was sad he didn't get to

>>720948043
I'm from a place of sanity called europe. We have a proper politcal debate and don't act like fans of rockstars or wrestler bashing the opposite fangroup.
Migrants and natives can live together in harmony. There is no either 1 or 2.

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>>720947928
The pipeline that wants to go over the already existing pipeline that hasn't destroyed the water?

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>>720948419
Eurofag. Go welcome some more immigrants to rape your women and kill your people

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>>720946288
We will settle today, for good and all, who holds sway over the United States! Us natives, born rightwise to this fine land... or the foreign hordes defiling it!

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>>720948749
Sorry wrong picture

I'm a humanist

>>720948851
That's exactly how I feel.

>>720948960
So you're an anti-American and a liberal piece of shit.

Fuck their tears. America first

>>720948749
>>720948913
Digusting and ugly deep inside your soul.
4chan becoming a place for digital hippies is only a dream with 'murican fucktards like you.

>>720949166
Cuck you prolly wrote in Bernie

>>720948960
>>720949116
And again - black and white. Humanism isn't what you think it is. I feel sorry for you brutalized americans.

>>720949166
4chan is the bastion of speech. We don't want bastards preaching speech regulations like you

Compared to Hillary, Trump actually does what he promised. But ofcourse the jobless liberals are still protesting as we speak because they lost. Pathetic, Sums up the left wing in one word.

>>720949327
>brutalized

Tell that to the women who are raped by coyotes and smugglers trying to cross the Mexican/US border. And the women raped by immigrants in Europe. And the families torn apart by the terrorist acts committed by radicalized Muslim immigrants in Europe and the United States.

>>720949548
Trump is winning more in 1 day than Obama did in 8 years

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>>720948851
>We will settle today, for good and all, who holds sway over the United States! Us natives, born rightwise to this fine land... or the foreign hordes defiling it!

Why did you post a picture of a bunch of thieving immigrants with those words? This is what a US native looks like:

>>720949237
I would've voted for Hillary since bernie was out of race. But I don't belong to the land of peedom (trump pun intended) .
>>720949344
Well, fair enough. 4chan only is the mirror of the internet society, although it mainly shows the stupid face of americans.

>>720949670
Wrong. They came here once too, thousands of years ago

>>720949548
>Trump actually does what he promised.

If he's doing what he promised, those "jobless liberals" won't be jobless much longer.

It's one thing to come into office and sign a flurry of executive orders - it's another to see the viability of these orders and policies as they unfold. I know you have a raging conservaboner right now, but try to keep it in your pants. The true test is yet to come.

>>720946248
>>720946524
What is it with everyone crying about homeless vets? I mean sure - noone should live on the street, and i can even accept that they're liked by the general public, but at some point does the american system requires them to get their shit together. They didn't and pay the price. If you don't want that, feel free to become more like yurop.
sincerely - yuropoor

>>720949648
I didn't say there are not brutalized. But you got to admit, that the american mentality isn't thoughtful but rather impulsive and often reckless.I'm too lazy for it but there are plenty of unbelievable things comitted by americans.
For example the fat MIB-Cockroach looking guy who kidnapped a kid and tried to trade into cheeseburgers.

Enough of this Natives bullshit. If it wasn't for the white man, everyone living in North America would still be in straw huts next to piles of their own shit while freezing to death. We came and built the modern world. These wetback opportunists just want free handouts.

>>720949670
This >>720949779 is true. And there's evidence that the Native Americans brutalized and displaced an earlier group of settlers in the Americas - tribes which have long been extinct. Not to mention their constant warring with each other over territory.

No one is innocent in this game. Whites were just the latest comers in a long line of thieves, slavers, and warmongering brutes.

>>720950097
Hear hear

>>720950006
Well no shit - that's why we want to keep out the ones we can so we can focus on our own. How is this a bad policy?

>>720946072

Why pick sides?

>>720946807
also you are not considering how US economy is going to be affected by taxes imposed to say mexican imports, which will affect us and not mexicans

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>>720950000
NIGGA YOU FUCKING LUCKY

>>720950373
Because you have to.

>>720950347
It's not in particular bad but heartless.
Imagine you being an emmigrant in 1600 coming from europe. You would hope for a welcoming place.
It's just an unfair coincidence that we are privileged.

>>720946072
I'm against right-wing cuck conspiracy theories and reality distortion. Most of what alt-right believes is willing historical revisionism: they are basically trying to produce a world like Orwell predicted by erasing our pasts and any dissent or anger or cynicism which will be made subservient to a cult of personality, a theocracy or dictatorship with Trump or Republican Jesus as the Big Brother figure.

I don't give one fuck about stupid absurdist forays into fighting over immigrants and walls and market protectionism for snowflake corporations. These are irrelevant to the fascist infiltration that has been going on since Nixon.

Nativists end up losing this battle, anyways. They believe America is for them, but America grows and changes. They are holdovers. They can't adapt, and so they don't deserve their place here. Those who live in reality and don't deny change are more likely to thrive and survive. Holding onto the past too much is just as bad as being too eager to usher in the future.

>>720950097
Most of them would have been happy to freeze to death the way their ancestors did rather than be put in what amounts to camps and land they didn't know. They would be happier without the genocide of the gun or the diseases Europeans wrought with their greed. There was no discussion: it was land grabbing for land grabbing's sake, and that American Dream never applied to native Americans. They were not given the same rights as we have. They still are not treated as a part of this Democracy. Remember, too, that every minority of this country never had similar access to the rights we now share until 60 years ago. Miscegenation, sodomy laws, religious freedom, universal suffrage, rights to own guns, etc etc... the "equality" and "modern world" was not a courtesy that existed for all. It is misleading to say it was universal. It denies the brutal reality that "free handouts" is no more vile than "manifest detsiny." It is equally selfish and savage.

>>720951275
Thumbs up.
I bet my ass that you aren't american.

>>720951275
The world loathes you

>>720951522
I don't, you cunt.
Proven wrong.

>>720946807
This is fucking retarded on so many levels.
Trump is a failed businessman who has been bailed out multiple times and who doesn't pay tax. You put him in charge of immigration, and his solution is to physically build a fucking wall? AND PEOPLE ARE DEFENDING HIM?
God Lord, that doesn't look very good on you from the outside, America. I don't want to throw shit around because you're very nice people, and very proud. But it's very sad to watch everything that's happening right now.