Because us faggots believe in freedom more than peace and because the persecution of a people is also what has driven us to stand in solidarity. Also not everyone is evil, some just do it out of good will.
>>720780318 So fucking stupid. First you let in a bunch of assholes from warn torn countries, bringing their own values like saying it's okay to rape someone if they're not veiled. Then when said mudslimes commit crimes it's always "identity and nationality yet unconfirmed" and all that bullshit. In the end, what comes around goes around. Fuck it the West can burn for all I care. I'm done. SJW's can suck my dick, I hope they all get culturally enriched.
And that proves that all Muslims in those countries support that how? Because that, fag, was your original claim. Also homosexuallity used to be illegal in most christian countries as well or still is.
Biscum here, we don't. We do, however, formally apologize for letting these dipshits stop sucking our dicks long enough to start talking about shit they know nothing about.
Seriously, they want us dead. So do all abrahamic religions if they had the balls to be honest, but islam is the worst of the group. Those of us who realized this bought guns and ammo, then voted trump.
>>720780318 Both cunts and faggot are fucking lesser than the white male. They clearly can't speak for themselves, that's why we have split-tails make our sandwiches. They deserve NO rights but that of the kitchen
congrats, you are officially a confused leftist dipshit. you and your dumb cunt kind do NOT value freedom more than peace, you want EQUALITY instead of LIBERTY (freedom) and you shove it down everyone's throat. fuck you, die you cunt, you are cancerous and never even realised it, fucking commie, i spit in your fucking face, marxist cunt
>>720783017 Are you thick? More than one million entered the EU last year. Even if you assume real criminals to be only 0.01% that's still 10.000 rapists, radicals, war criminals and murderer who are now wolf among sheep. Fucking retard. Look at Cologne. Look at the rapes of 12yr olds at swimming pools. Look at the 55 no-go zones in Sweden.
>>720781671 I want you to know that when you defend Muslims, you are defending a entity that teaches hatred, violence, patriarchy, homophobia, racism, segregation, and intolerance in all forms.
And Islam has ALWAYS been this way since its creation. Always. The very word "Islam" translates as "submission", because you must submit, or else.
Anyone who thinks that islam can co-exist if we give it a chance, is willfully turning a blind eye to both its teachings and its history. Islam cannot co-exist, it is a cancer that will destroy everything you hold dear.
Next time you try to defend Islam, don't. If you knew about what Islam truly represents both spiritually and practically, you'd never be able to defend it. EVER.
the majority of muslims are violent parasites because most of the muslim women, especially all the hot ones, have been sold into slavery by their fathers, you hear about muslims raping little boys in the ass and how much they love doing it to each other like they'll go to the next village near them and ass rape all the little boys because the girls have been taken and married off to the muslims with some wealth.
understandably, muslims are so mad and upset that all the pretty women have been married off they rape everything, goats, camels, men, women, little boys and girls, even really old women and men.
>>720783950 False. The color of your skin is the only thing that matters. You can take the nigger out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the nigger. You can lead a filthy Muslim to water, but you can't keep him from fucking his goat.
you do realise that muslims hate you, want to kill you, they don't care who you are or where you are from, they hate you because you aren't a shit skinned muslim, and if you are, they hate you even more because you're an apostate.
anyone who thinks "muslims are from the religion of peace, and they're so peaceful" are the same fucking morons who are first to get stabbed in the back and decapitated on the street by a shitskinned sandnigger.
you're the kind of retard who would be thrown off a fucking building by muzrats and you'd shout "THE RELIGION OF PEACE LOVES US ALL!"
>>720784443 Sweden has too many benefits, same for England, all these sand niggers want to go to Sweden or England because of that, and because Swedens government hate the indigenous swedish people they don't arrest rapists, they tell them "thank you for raping" and let them go again, with full immunity from the police.
>>720784547 Their countries don't know how to deal with the sudden influx of criminals and moral degenerates. Especially in England where a guy with a gun gets a stern talking to by their unarmed police
In December 2011 a Swedish mother-of-two was subjected to a brutal gang-rape by 12 Afghan immigrants in a refugee camp in Mariannelund. Reports stated “The rape was oral, anal and vaginal sometimes with three rapists inside her at the same time while everybody was cheering and clapping. The gruesome rape marathon lasted for 7 hours. 11 suspect may have been involved taking turns while drinking and getting high on drugs. The asylum seekers were cheering and clapping their hands during the rape marathon while calling the victim “whore” and “slut”.” http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/346059
Thank god it's only a few individuals and not group rape or anything. Wait...
>>720780318 >oppress women Why? Because we dont treat our women as pieces of meat. You can't even sell a soda without a halfnaked woman advertising it. You westerners are cucks, your women fuck everybody and the ugly ones that no one wants turn into feminists. Wew lad great equality. How about you go jerk of to the sound of your sister getting banged by jamal in the next room, it's not like you can do anything about it. Gay's are degenerates and should be eradicated
There is a huge differance between the bible and the koran
Firstly the bible is split into two books, the old and new testiment. The old testament is primitive shit and has a lot of violance in it. Then Jesus came along and taught forgiveness, love, and tolerance. Most of what can be considered violent verses are what happens to the fate of people after death and that GOD will deal with him. There is not one instruction of violence in the new testament. The bible was written by many men over many decades. Making the bible confusing and contradicting, so you get to pick and choose. For every verse saying something, there are 3 more saying to do the opposite. The koran is different. It was written by 1 man There is a clear timeline of the koran. If any verse contradicts, you use the newer verse. Abrogation is islamic concept. Muhummad was the ideal man He was peaceful when he had full followers, teaching to turn the other cheek He was defensive when he had some followers, teaching self-defense He was a bloodthirsty treacherous warlord when he had many followers, and taught his followers that 1 hour fighting for islam was worth more than a lifetime of scholarly pursuits.
When you read any peaceful verse from the koran, know that it was written when islam was young and weak, and holds no weight as its been abrogated by newer verses.
THATS the differance. Islam is very clear on what islam is, it is no open to interpretation, at least not the points that concern non-Muslims.
>>720785049 Western women, even the lowest status ones, don't want to fuck filthy Arabs. Just ask about a girls's tinder habits. Also the reason why they get raped, and according to Islam muslims are allowed to rape non-veiled non-muslim women, so that's what they do.
>>720784968 Who said they aren't allowed to leave the house? Islam prohibits a woman travelling without a male guardian thats it. She can still go outside. >voting Muslims don't vote so I dont know how to respond to that. >voice objections They can and they do, the prophet said that we can't be strict with our women.
You do know there is a diffrence in culture and religion. If an 'islamic' country does something that doesnt mean its allowed in religion. There aren't even real islamic countries left in this day and age.
>>720785166 We dont want to fuck western girls. I dont want to get aids. >according to islam muslims are allowed to rape non-veiled women Where did you even get this from? Your ass? Can you post source, quran and hadith will do fine. Also if you commit adultry you get 100 lashes if you're unmarried and death by stoning if you're married. Thats just the punishment for consensual premarital sex. What do you think will happen if you rape especially when that's 100 times worse
>>720785375 There is only one interpretation of islam. Sure scholars differ over small things but the important things are only made by consensus. I think for myself. You should also try thinking for yourself instead of being a sheep of your government spouting anything they say and following everything they make up. They don't even follow their own laws but if you do the same you're fucked for life
>>720783944 this is mainly because countries have different reporting practices. Sweden amoung others have the issue of even if the allegation to police is deemed to be false it is recorded in this data. Sweden and new Zealand etc. also record any un consenting sex as rape, not just being penetrated, hence the higher scores. conversely some countries (especially muslim) like Indonesia or Saudi barely record cases or punish rapists for various reasons. hence leading to much lower recorded cases for those countries.
>>720785500 I can understand If you dont agree with the capital punishment but I made that point so that you can see that premarital sex is a big deal so how can rape be accepted. It just doesn't add up
You sure told me what I am. But ya see. I live in a country where my ideals can differ from that of my government without needing to fear for my life. Do I agree with the Muslim ban. No. Should they be screened. Yes, because they haven't shown us they don't need to be. Trust is earned, and your people have gone a long way in burning down that trust. Not only to the United States but to the rest of the world.
Germany fucking hates you. Their PM is so unpopular it's a small miracle she hasnt been killed. France hates you, Belgium hates you.
Youre on the losing side and doing nothing to show that you disagree with the actions taken by terror groups who act on their interpretation of Islam.
>>720785886 Right and I'm sure the massive influx of migrants didn't add one single case to those statistics. Because they're all so virtuous and misunderstood. If only whitey would stop being so racist.
>>720785933 I'm pretty sure those punishments apply to your Muslim sisters. I live in a big city tho and I see how Arabs treat our women on a weekly basis. If I don't bring them home at 2AM they get harassed on the streets. Don't even get me started on a white woman's safety inside ghettos at night.
>>720785246 I'm sorry, did you think that it's acceptable to prevent someone leaving the house unless they are escorted? How outraged would you be if you were prevented from leaving the house unless your mom or sister escorted you? And then you'd have to wear something to hide you from the world, least you sexually trigger a female and they rape you, which would be your own fault for triggering her. Or how your vote (if you even get one), only counts for half that of a mans?
>the prophet said that we can't be strict with our women. Now you show us the proof, because your prophet was very fucking strict with his women.
If your wife disobeys you, tell her off, if she continues to disobey you, beat her till she learns. Its in the koran for fuck sake, you're given authority to beat your wife(s) if she continues to displease you. How about divorce law in Shira law
You get tired of your wife? just say talaq 3 times, push her into the street and show that bitch shes nothing but a hole between her legs. Your wife wants to get rid of you? She has to get your permission, otherwise she's pretty fucked with her chances of a successful divorse. Not to you'll probably get want to beat shit out of her for her insolence.
Go ahead, defend the above. Tell us how you're onyl supposed to beat your wife with love
Tell us, how did muhummad describe the celebrations when a boy is born in the house? How did he describe the celebrations when a girl is born instead?
Please do tell us Or would you like me to recite the verses?
>>720786330 Thx for typing that out. Unfortunately our mudslime brother won't be replying because he knows you're right. But still 10/10. If you've travelled to one Islamic country you know the reality of women's rights there.
>>720785869 You have never googled a "muslim girl sucking camel dick" or "arab fucking a donkey"?
Most stuff is removed now from clear web but you can always use tor or other services to access matetial of Saudi men making women have sex with animals.
There is also some video of Pakistani chick fucking a dog out there and a Taleban dude fucking a goat while other dude watches before joining in after the first one is done.
Then there is some Iranian ja Iraq stuff and plenty of Turkish shit floating around.
There is of course all of the more mainstream gay and lesbian videos and photos of muslims having fun that are easier to find but I suggest you keep looking and maybe you will find some hardcore beastiality porn made your village too.
>>720787047 The only reason SJW's do this is virtue signalling. I do dare those retards to go out at night in a muslim ghetto, see how they like their cultural appropriation. Though most of those fags are from upper middle class families so ironically they are somewhat sheltered from the consequences of their own actions.
You can have their imams try and convince their followers, but the fact of the matter is the koran is very clear on what islam is. It was written by 1 person, with any contradictions being abrogated. Meaning there aren't any contradictions.
How can you reform a religon whos' prophet has died and there are no contractions? You can't. It'll never happen. With 1 exception being a sect who believe there was a 2nd prophet with new teachings in the 20th century, but they are very small and extremely hated by other Muslims as apostates.
>>720786330 Actually if you read the hadith to the end you'll see it says do not strike the face nor strike hard enough to leave a mark. So even the reddening of the skin is prohibited. Those are just taps to let her know she's in the wrong its more psychological.
Muslims don't vote we dont use democracy
Let me ask you a question instead. If a woman doesnt want to reveal herself to others and doesnt want to leave the house alone in the night. (Women are allowed to leave the house alone, just no travelling alone). Lets say this woman wants it and she accepts it, is she still oppressed or not? Aren't you oppressing her to say she can't do that.
The prophet wasnt strict with his wives I dont know where you got that from. And he celebrated the same with girls as with boys. You do realize preIslamic arabs killed their girls by birth. It was islam that give women their rights back. But anything differing from your interpretation is oppressiong for you
>>720787270 They're very sheltered. Believing whatever garbage rhetoric is being spewed by SJWs with no thought for themselves. You ask most of these people how much they know about Islam and they'll say "Not much. Trump is just being racist." No, if he was he'd say none are allowed. He just wants Americans to be safe.
>>720787526 Alot of things the United States Government does is faaar from okay. I would never say waterboarding for example is okay. I don't think they should invade other counties on a whim they spend like 15 years looking for things that were never there to begin with. Wmds. I don't think they should be able to spy on people, forgien or otherwise, I understand the necessity of it but I don't like it.
I've never dick ridden the government on anything really.
>>720787702 Maybe cause goods are easy to come by and taxes run our infrastructure. I know you don't have much of that over there, infrastructure, but if you did maybe you'd understand why taxes are taken so seriously.
>>720787411 >Actually if you read the hadith to the end you'll see it says do not strike the face nor strike hard enough to leave a mark. So even the reddening of the skin is prohibited. Those are just taps to let her know she's in the wrong its more psychological.
So psychological abuse isn't abuse? Weird sky god you have there.
Because unlike you, they recognise that hate helps nothing. Forgiving and helping those who hate you doesn't do anything but promote the culture you want to exist. Condemning them just makes them hate you more.
if islam is so great, why do so many muslims want to live in non muslim countries, go out drink fuck and live their life in a way that would get them killed in some muslim countries, and at the very least haated by all in less strict muslim countries?
>>720788004 You know what also makes them hate you more? Letting them into your country so they can get culture shocked into oblivion. If Islam takes care of it's own people what are they fucking doing in the West, the capital of the non-believers. Faux-muslims much?
>>720788004 Hate is powerful. Do not underestimate it. Oh wait, you did when you voted Hillary. You underestimate how much hate the people had fostered for these liberal ideals that are made to cater to those oh so special snowflakes who are just oh so tolerant. Fuck off you cunt.
>>720788240 Yep, didn't argue that there's plenty of ignorance and hate in Islam. I don't respect the religion at all, but every person still has rights. Muslims don't have the right to kill women and gays, but they do have the right to safety and continued existence.
>>720788171 If she into bdsm then she's into it. A muslim woman knows her place and knows it's allowed she accepts it. How about you stop talking for our women and just concentrate on your own women. Its not like they'll obey
>>720782719 so, you claim that politics of a country is not influenced by nations living there? i guess it's a coincidence then that homosexuality is villified by all muslim countries btw, saying that X years ago something was true, is not really an agrument that could justify anything nowadays. or are you willing to support modern slavery in africa and the middle east because usaria used to have slaves too?
>>720783395 Anon doesnt wanna spoon feed you all the stories, these are the people you have let into your country, if you want to fight for them be my guest, I hope you and your family get raped or killed by these animals, maybe then youll learn, youll all learn eventually..
>>720787411 >Actually if you read the hadith to the end you'll see it says do not strike the face [...] Those are just taps to let her know she's in the wrong its more psychological.
In the Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamakhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525), we read the following, "On the authority of Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him), he said: ‘Hang up your scourge in a place where your wife (or wives) can see it.’
Because you know, the scourge was entirely ornamental, and not to be used to beat you wives. You were just supposed to tap you wife and say please please please please please please please dont. Please, pretty please. Don't make me any more mad or in this socity dominated by men, and where no man can question me about how or why i beat you, i'm only supposed to tap you into submission. Really?
The only verse i could find in a hadith that suggested light punishment, was one regarding your wife misbehaving sexually to others. IE: flirting. And there is no mention of "tapping" which is fucking retarded when you consider all the other verses that use the word BEAT.
But please, prove me wrong, what is this hadith you talk about that explains what Muhammad meant about beating? And how reliable is it?
"Muslims don't vote we dont use democracy" Did i say vote, i was thinking witness. Your witness in a court of law, or opinion even, is sweet fuck all compared to a man's.
>Lets say this woman wants it and she accepts it, is she still oppressed or not? If she wants it because she'll be raped or shunned, is it really that she wants it?
If she truly wanted to wear a veil, I'd support her. But I know of no other society where they wear a veil that is so suffocating and uncomfortable. It is unnatural, and a symptom of a gender under suppression.
>It was islam that give women their rights back. Explain how Muhammad married a business women when he was young? When by the time he died, they had no business rights?
Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie about anything if it promotes or progresses their religion. "The ends justify the means, regardless of what the "means" happen to be."
>>720788251 Ugh go back to what I said in the posts before. You cant slap a woman just like that. First verbally then if she persists you can tap her on her arm or something. And if you do that too much she wouldnt care anymore. It is meant as a last resort to show her she is wrong.
The prophet wasnt strict with his wives I dont know where you got that from.
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a: The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day."
He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was 'A'isha who had narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes. ... he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?
I'm sure Ashia was talking about a light tap, when she said Muhammud struck her
Scholar Abdul-latif Mushtahiri:
If admonishing and sexual desertion fail to bring forth results and the woman is of a cold and stubborn type, the Qur'an bestows on man the right to straighten her out by way of punishment and beating provided he does not break her bones nor shed blood. Many a wife belongs to this querulous type and requires this sort of punishment to bring her to her senses!"
I'm trying to find the verses that show how little muhammad thought about a girl being born, but i can't seem to find them. I may be wrong in that regard, in which case i've learnt something. I'll continue to see if i can find it...
>>720788864 You can't just talk it out like an adult though right? That's just too much work. Progressive societies may seem strange to you but I promise the sex is better when shes not afraid you. Kek
>>720789032 >Can't just talk it out like an adult right?
Tell me the last time you saw an actual adult conversation that lasted 5 minutes before a liberal went all "REEEEE you're a racist! You're literally Hilter!" whenever they're presented with facts. The liberal left doesn't WANT open dialogue, their entire strategy revolves around shutting down any opposing viewpoint because then they'd have to actually have to analyze WHY they think the way they do and WHAT they actually believe in and they wouldn't be able to handle the reality that they're nothing but a pack of idiots and their ideology isn't the least bit logical.
>>720789199 I don't care how mudslimes treat their women in their own countries, but you're dead wrong if you think that justifies treating white women the same way. Go get trampled in Jerusalem and do us all a favour.
>>720789449 Go on Show us where in the new testament (don't bother using old) it tells Christians to attack non-believers. Bonus points for finding anything that instructs that fighting for Christianity is the greatest thing a Christian can do in his combined entire lifetime, even if only briefly.
>>720789449 The Bible is also a book of made up fairy tales.
Look this goes to everyone. If there is a God, we're fucked already. Faith is worthless in a world of science that proves the earth was not made in 7 days, but over the course of several billion. That you're nothing cosmicly. Absolutely nothing. Stop worshiping bullshit. Start thinking, start trying to explain, and maybe we can leave this small rock for another one before our race is wiped away by our own hand or by nature's.
>>720789677 Asking people to stop beliving in god isn't going to work Deal with the problem at hand. The problem are the people who believe in allah. While nations that are christain, buddist, taoi, are all stable and becoming secular, its societies that have muslims that are becoming unstable. I ask that you take care when when you lump both religions in the same boat. Because while you may consider Christianity a poison, i'd argue Islam is radioactive.
The thing about the muslin ban is that it is a ban that affects more good willed refugees than terrorists. I don't care about the whole everyone is right post-mod thinking, but for a second think that this people are straying even farther from the civilized west, if you don't make sanctions that let the good willed inside (fuck those countries that let grown ass men in, saying that they are 8 yo's without parents) the riots will be severe, terrorist organizations feed on unwanted citizens. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-majority-countries-donald-trump-travel-ban-immigration-entry-visa-three-main-countries-exempt-a7552526.html
>>720788999 i was kind of hoping you'd continue to argue on point. Guessing you've given up? I can understand, its hard to defend your religion when what you've been told, and what the hadiths actually say are completely different.
>>720789677 >proves the earth was not made in 7 days Metaphor. It's a common literary device.
You see, Mr. Pedantic, the bible was written over a thousand years ago by people living in a by-gone era. If you had said the word "billion" to one of them they would have said "WTF is that?" Yet you seem to expect them to have written as if they were MIT grads and had advanced knowledge of physics, geology and astronomy that didn't even exist at the time.
>>720780318 BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT RIGHT WING TRIBALIST BULLSHIT YOU RETARD Some people are sick of this shit and just want people to get along Trump supporters will never understand that I guess They don't buy into the hate
>>720780318 I always felt that when a small portion of a particular group do something, that the entire group must be penalised.
Just like with Christians who do terrorist acts against abortion clinics or gay people, the entire group must be cast down with them.
That's why I really understand these so called terrorists from these countries which have usually had the US basically colonise them, I mean, the people in the US would probably do the same if the roles were reversed.
It doesn't matter either way though. The war on terror is a failure because if all of this fear is a reaction to the 9/11 attacks then the >terrorists< have technically succeeded in their overall plan.
And now America is divided, I'm certain this wasn't what terrorism was supposed to cause in the first place.
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