Would things work out if we just let the South and other Red States GTFO?
Debate.
There are three parts of the Confederacy that pull their own economic weight: Texas in general, the Atlanta metro area and Miami.
The rest of it sucks up government money and produces nothing but the lowest of low-info voters and recruits for already redundant military berths.
NO! Massachusetts fag here. We need the balance. Without red states we would become a country of over sensitive pussies.
Wouldn't work out for them too well. Red states are the biggest recipients of govt. assistance. (welfare)
>>720700218
things would work out better if califailia and the eastern half of ny fell into the ocean and drown
>>720700637
Also a massachussettes fag. Yeah, I don't wanna live in a world that is one big massachusettes.
>>720700910
>>720700637
Most of the good things in your life probably came from the government
>>720700218
You weren't supposed to know about 'the plan's for full civil unrest to in-establish the U.S.
>>720700218
Sweden threw out all the right wing people and now it's shit. america did the same in the 60 and the only problem it had was a slight but dying racism.
>>720700578
I love how liberals, especially california retards, forget how many FEDERAL government subsidies they've received to stay afloat then whine about a few hillbillies getting welfare checks.
https://techcrunch.com/2014/07/04/the-government-once-built-silicon-valley/
The hypocrisy is hilarious. Silicon Valley. Avocado farms. Almond Farms. You name it, anything they bragged about is subsidized by the FEDERAL government which means your state hasn't done a fucking thing exceptional aside from occupy a specific geographic space.
kek
>>720701081
Nope. I'm not anti government at all, it's just never really done anything for me.
>>720701081
Yeah, that's true. Especially my education. The public schools here are god tier. Compared to whatever backwards rural-ass school you went to.
These red states? stay mad, faggot.
>>720701711
I disagree. I do hate everything about the state gov here. But you can't say that this isn't the best state to raise children in.
>>720701771
Except if fall river. People there are severely retarded.
>filename
>>720701946
I agree
>>720701966
In*
>>720701833
heh, population is about two to one blue
stop presuming gay formula liberalism and get out of the house for once
>>720700578
lol you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>720701833
All that unoccupied red land sure is funny.
>>720702121
If that were the case, the popular vote wouldn't have been within a 1% margin of all eligible voters, you dumb fuck.
You'll have to do better than that, Paco.
>>720702453
Population Density is a thing.
>>720702453
Did you use the name Paco because you think it makes you look like extra confident in your opinion?
>>720702346
your anger sustains me
>>720700218
Do it.
Send the libtards and inbreds on their merry ways and let them run their own countries. They clearly can't get shit done under one roof.
>>720702730
>Population density is a thing
Yeah. It exists, and it has not one single fucking thing to do with the popular vote.
Good job making an ass out of yourself.
>>720702761
Can't attack the facts so attack the most inconsequential part of my post.
Typical liberal. Yawn. Call me a racist next, ok? Haven't heard that one in 5 minutes.
>>720700218
Yes, America wouldn't have been nearly as strong. Due to a retardation in growth we wouldn't have been able to contribute as much fresh troops in the great War. Germany would have sued for peace under more equal terms. Hitler wouldn't have felt betrayed. WWII would've never happened. Ottoman Empire may or may not have lasted so the middle east wouldn't have been so broken.
>>720703105
Racist.
There I said it.
>>720700218
funny thing is that so far this thread drives the point home.
none of you fuckers can get along.
>>720700578
Bruh Virginia was ridiculously wealthy.
>>720701833
Same thing I was thinking
>>720701966
Hell yeah they are. Whenever I drive through there to get to Providence I feel myself getting slightly more autistic.
>>720703290
Basically this.
The debate itself proves the answer is "yes".
>>720702121
fortunately the electoral system exists to combat you fucktard liberal nigs congregating in great numbers
>>720700218
Let's talk state GDP I'm seeing some red states with money, and most production profit is realized at corporate hq so they numbers are even off since the coastal cities produce little
>>720703525
It's actually the result of an inferiority complex the smaller colonies/states felt during the early days of the union. Liberals had nothing to do with it. The system was designed specifically to allow rural states to feel like their voice mattered. It's antiquated and has since spun out of control. It needs to be reformed or eliminated and replaced with a proper democracy.
But yeah, go ahead, keep thinking it's about checks and balances.
>>720704133
Another liberal to stupid to understand, I don't like the rules, I can't win fair so change the rules and give me a trophy,
Fuckin snowflakes
>>720704133
Nice projection.
An inferiority complex is when 98% of the country is the opposite color of your political party and you're somehow trying to argue that everyone ELSE is the stupid one.
fuckin kek
>>720704593
Fucking inbred pigfuckers can't understand a concept like density.
>Hurr Durr I reckon that there lead ball outta dun weigh the same as that there plastic ball that dun be the same size, Yee Haw!
>>720700578
Oklahoma supports a large amount of the fossil fuels in the country. I shit you not, within a mile of where I am is 10% of the country's oil.
>>720704821
Stay salty, faggot. You lost :^)
>>720704821
Ok snowflake, call mommy and she will make it all right, not my fault you can't understand the concept of rules, now go hush and let the adults talk here honey
>>720700637
The good parts of massachusetts will be destroyed by Trump and his ilk. We absolutely should cut them out.
>>720704821
liberal nigtards cant comprehend simple concepts like the electoral system
massive failure
>>720704133
the fact of the matter, that you don't want to admit to yourself, is that rural states matter a lot, where do you put all the agriculture industries, where do put your landfills, where do you conduct dangerous experiments, where do you put your power plants, where do you maintain your forests. Everyone needs places where less people live to fulfill many purposes and people that live in those states should be able to have representation, so a bunch of assholes in some city don't get to control their lives with their completely different sets of concerns.
>>720705128
the good parts are cry baby liberal faggots with no balls?
lolno
>>720704961
yeah but every oil outfit in the state pulled out about 6 weeks ago. from what ive heard not a single rig is drilling right now because of the earthquakes that may or may not but probably were caused by fracking.
>source: texasfag roughneck
>>720700218
You're behind the times, anon. The ones who want out are the chili-fried homos of California.
>>720705233
You cant reason with stupid.
Dont bother.
>>720705317
better than dumb meatheads who break shit for the lulz
>>720705233
These can be worked around with proper engineering. You don't actually *have* to use large landmasses for farming, power plants or experiments. It might be expensive at first but it's worth it to keep a bunch of people who know nothing about city life from interfering.
>>720702121
Yeah but your ideology is broken, SJW is costing you everything. All these immigrants you want to bring in to replace us have conservative opinions in their home countries, it's only a matter of time before they break the "conservatives are racist against you" conditioning and stop voting blue because in truth you're against all the freedoms they want. They want the freedom to build male-centric, adult-centric capitalistically aggressive communities of pure religious ideology and the second you guys get in their way they'll be done with you. It will also just start to occur naturally as they become more integrated, I mean you want them to be sensitive trannies, they want to be bearded men who beat their wives.
>>720705619
thatll happen right after you cure cancer
then for an encore you can punch out god
gl
>>720701558
The nature of california is constantly trying to return to its half desert environment that they have to constantly fight back with irrigation, and they wonder why they have water problems, better blame global warming XD
>>720705619
Nice bubble you live in princess,what are you gonna do when trump pops it
>>720705376
Jesus I wish that was true. There's one in my town right now. My point wasn't production though, but storage. Cushing is a choke point, and until those new pipelines get built, the shit isnt going anywhere. Even when its going in and out all the time, it still maintains about 10% of the country's reserves. More than enough to royally fuck oil prices in the country if something were to happen to it. I didn't mean for that have a sinister context to it, but I couldn't think of a less bad way to say it.
>>720705860
Well ideally we'd build a wall around the red areas to keep them out and stop sending them our tax dollars
>>720705233
And this is precisely why the EC exists and the genius of the founding fathers.
Liberals will say "hurr durr but population density" without realizing that a lot of the "empty space" they're pointing out is empty because it HAS to be empty. It has to contain national forests. It has to contain hundreds of thousands of acres of the country's produce.
Take two equally sized garages. Park a car (a necessity) inside one. Now put fit as many people standing shoulder to shoulder inside both. Liberals are the faggots standing in the garage without a car crammed into it, trying to look down at the other guys who carpool them to work everyday.
>>720706108
youd all be broke because blue state fucktards cant budget for shit
>2 farmers in an acre of farmland vote Republican
>3 office workers in an a small office vote Democrat
>4 people sat by the beach don't vote for either
>look at the size of that farm, clearly Republicans represent all of America!
>>720705939
bunch of oklahomo's down here looking for work. Shits slow down here too but ive heard that has more to do with the price of barrels being so low. there's a bunch of oil up north too, in colorado, wyoming, and the dakotas
>>720705011
Last time I checked, the score's still:
Educated Citizens 1, Pigfucking Traitors 0
Deal with it, you toothless illiterate lump of genetic toxic waste in overalls.
>>720706374
we do now
dont let the door hit your ass on the way out if you dont like it
>>720706309
Most red states are full on welfare babbies
>>720706466
Don't forget you're outnumbered. The state can't help you in the end.
>>720700788
They also have the most niggers. You do the math.
>>720706466
>we
>he thinks 'he' won
>>720706498
all blue staes would wither and die if they didnt have the federal governments teat to suck on
>>720706450
if you voluntarily join a union shouldnt you be able to leave voluntarily?
>>720706390
A lot of my friends have went to work in the Dakotas. Hopefully Trump ok-ing those pipelines gets some more people back here, because it really has been a ghost town for about 3 years. The leg of the keystone from here Houston was finished then, if I remember correctly. But the part from here to Canada was the part that really mattered.
>>720706638
we pay more in taxes than we give, so yeah no
>>720706664
yeah.
>>720706450
>Whites and Christians fleeing the Democratic party in record numbers
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pew-whites-christians-fleeing-democratic-party/article/2601647
>Right now, the Democratic Party, which I have called home my entire life, is deeply in love with money. Consequently, its leaders have supported and advanced all kinds of evil, big and small, in devotion to this love affair.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-leaving-democratic-party-article-1.2644307
>Working class leaving the Democratic party in drove
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/06/white-working-class-new-deal-racism-reagan-democrats/
Trump is making America great again, these pathetic liberals still clinging to positions with no substance and no actual struggle or oppression are a relic, an antique, a fossil.
Even their own people are waking the fuck up and realizing how fucking retarded they are. This is truly a great time to be alive. :^)
>>720706569
whenever youre ready for a civil war let us know
im game
>nu-male betacucks vs RACIST XENOPHOBIC SEXIST TRANSPHOBIC YADAYADAPHOBIC literal nazi's: America Edition
Four years of popcorn, four years of swede incarnates trying to invite dangerous refugees into the states because boohoo the world's problems are our problems :( four years of thirsty commiefornia trying to be a rebellious plastic teen bitch and the media embarrassing themselves. Four years of random chimpouts by American citizens who turn around and go back home under the pretense that Trump will "consider being fair to everyone" like it isn't fair to kick out ILLEGAL immigrants. Average Joe over here protests with cucky boy Shia Labeouf HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US SOME RACIST FACIST SEXIST IS NOT MY PRESIDENT THIS PUSSY GRABS BACK and then looks up women being roughed up to the point of crying in porn before bed. Oh fuck Donald Trump grabs pussies, so immoral and Hitler-like.
Four years.
>>720706664
Uncle Sam hating treasonous faggots all ought to be burned at the stake wrapped in their traitor's stars and bars.
>>720706108
If states like california and new york weren't just taking in money from everyone else in the US through pop culture and stock market respectively something tells me their economy would dry up pretty quick.
>>720706741
>Trump represents the working class and doesn't care that much about money
>>720706599
we president now
How is it fair for the insignificant people living in the rural, backwater ass ends of nowhere to dictate how things should be for the people who actually matter living in the major population centers where the majority of the nations GDP comes from?
>>720700578
The highest portions of welfare recipients come from counties with democrat control. Fucktard
>>720706678
its cute when you retards cant into basic math
>>720706849
> productive people make money selling their labor and goods
oh man tell me again about how the lazy liberal leeches can't do anything on their own
>>720706785
>>720706678
Nigger, you clearly don't know the difference between taxes and subsidies. I already covered that here
>>720701558
Read up. Nobody gives a shit if you pay 40 billion in taxes. If you take 100 bil in subsidies over the same time period it's still a net negative and the rest of the country is propping you dumb motherfuckers up.
In short, the FEDERAL government (the rest of the country) paid to build the agriculture and tech and most every other sectors in blue states as an investment and now you incredibly UNeducated faggots are trying to pretend the revenue from that investment is something you did on your own.
Get fucking real.
>>720706817
had I been around I would've proudly died for that flag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKdbc0DYpM
>>720706959
life isnt fair snowflake
feel free to gtfo, we have enough crybaby lil bitches here you wont be missed
>>720706498
The hypocrisy of this statement is astounding, democrats talking about supporting the poor while looking down on them from their high horse.
>>720707162
But see that just means that this country is tied to whatever path the uneducated riff raff who shouldn't be voting choose.
>>720707256
You can still help the poor and see them as beneath you.