>>720118737 >the threat is robotics instead of artificial intelligence. Maybe if it were 1999. The real threat is when someone makes their own AI and pushes all economics into the endgame (ai creates ai faster than the rate at which humans can create or combat/police them, at which point any one function added into the AI, like digging a hole for infrastructure, could remove the necessity for any and all human involvement) with themselves at the tip of the spear. Corporate-owned-everything incoming. Humans become obsolete.
Crooked, soulless, greedy Republican CEOs having the right to outsource as many positions and roles as they want to Chinese and Indian children is the great jobs crisis of our time. It's fucking DISGUSTING and it's an epidemic in this country.
The job market adapts to advancements in technology. IT CAN'T advance or compete with a practice so vile that it completely destroys our economic model by placing the competition rates many hundreds of times lower than the American cost of living.
>>720118737 >>720119269 Think about it like this, if you were to create a robot army right now, you would be limited by human speed and intelligence. If you were to create an AI that has three purposes (survival, reproduction and production) that negate the necessary human interaction, the only limit to advancement is the availability of physical mater in which to store data and reproduce (reproduction in order to double production rates each time a new AI, that does not require years to learn if you share any relevant data, is produced) is finished.
>>720119756 Why would I pay a human to do it when I could build a circle of robots with alternating functions of production and maintenance? >Robot1 screws on lid and brushes off metal shavings from Robot2 which does the same to Robot3 which does the same to Robot1
>>720118737 A better idea would probably involve a more educated population to go into more advanced jobs. This can be done in different ways, but what about providing more education for people at lower costs? As more automated processes take jobs from lower educated people, the average person will need to take up jobs of higher education that are more advanced for current automation to do. That could mean the people who would once work in stores stacking items in back will now be educated to fix the machinery that do it for them. Opinions?
Walmart is a welfare queen. We supplement billions to the company owned by the richest family in the world because of fucking morons like you who just don't see the BASIC MATH of how this insane economic model is unsustainable by design.
>>720120276 Lol more tears. You do realize that the percentage of wealth is exactly what it should be. That 1% does more with their money than you will ever do with yours. You punish the rich for being better, and you distribute that wealth evenly across the country, guaranteed it will be back in the 1% hands in no time. Poor fucks are poor for a reason.
>>720119336 There will always be work for humans though, regardless of what tasks automation can cover. The automation will force people to learn new skills, transition to other work, and/or just make them more efficient at the job they have.
Consider as well, that if the cost of production goes down then products can be sold for less thus the overall cost of living can go down. Businesses exist to make a profit, but in healthy capitalism, it's smart business to sell for less in order to sell more (compared to competition), so price will go down or simply stay the same depending on inflation.
Some cases may neutralize a market/industry, but in those cases the benefits far outweigh the issues. Like passing the FairTax or FlatTax; that would abolish the IRS and make related companies like H&R Block pointless. Or like anything seen in technology, innovation continually kills markets, but creates new ones. i.e. Vinyl -> Cassette -> CD -> MP3/Digital
>>720120667 There will always be work for BACTERIA though, regardless of what tasks PENICILLIN can cover. PENICILLIN will force BACTERIA to learn new skills, transition to other work, and/or just make them more efficient at the job they have. After a certain point in time, the amount of influence we have over machines will dwindle. >inb4 this has nothing to do with the topic It's an analogy.
>>720120276 It's sustainable for as long as two things 1. Things are affordable 2. Basic necessities are easily met People will easily be able to buy low rate food with a lowest wage, but it's about the things like Healthcare where they cost so much that people are saving up money that isn't recirculated for when they have to spend egregious amounts of money on these things. Technology makes things less expensive as we find more efficient ways to improve and produce them. The reason we had a booming economy in world War 2 was because of a big new generation that was bigger than the last buying new household appliances that was as I said, new. As of the moment, our economy is sustainable, it's just if you want it to boom like the 1940s and 1950s than something new that makes a task that we preform everyday easier will have to invented and then people will go out and buy that shit.
>>720120276 Walmart isn't really a welfare queen, they just employ a fuck ton of old and disabled people that don't have any other option, its sad too, most of them look so broken that they have to do this to get by
It's not possible at this point. Or a practical endeavor to automate the entire system instead of making specialized equipment. Why make a missile that can think when we can just make a missile that thinks about where it needs to go.
>>720121689 There's nothing to do with old people other than support them. Having them stand for a few hours a day greeting people is a fucking treat. Imagine the things they've had to do to make it to that point in their life and compare it to saying hello at a door for money.
>>720121706 Not every implementation of technology requires AI. Don't know where you got the missile bit from. Foot soldier drones don't necessarily need AI, they could be connected to a dedicated AI that watches over the whole battle at once.
>>720123679 You're right but I'm bored so I'll try to construe the meaning so that I'm still correct:
>The success rate of penicillin negatively correlates to its use. >The success rate of automation negatively correlates to it's use due to the environment slowly reaching its saturation point/degrading. Not quite, but I tried.
>>720118737 as somebody who works alongside robotic arms on an almost daily basis, they're not really a threat. first off they cost like a hundred thousand dollars (more or less). we use them as secondary fixtures at work, cutting out plastic parts. a person is still required to load the part into the fixture, start the cycle, remove debris from the router/drillbit, and remove the completed part.
debris falling in front of the proximity sensors can halt the cycle, so can the part slipping in the fixture. the robots sometimes randomly crash, occasionally snag and smash parts, break router bits and need reset, sometimes half a dozen or more times in an 8 hour shift.
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