You faggots still get to shitpost because of Trump.He killed the TPP ffs. If Clinton won,shitholes like cuckchan would be shutdown. You would be charged for torrenting that anime you're currently fapping too. You faggots owe Trump
>>720004028 The e-mail meme is reason enough let alone her borderline sociopathic tone in which she speaks and the fact she isn't capable of walking to a car without mysteriously falling over.
Hell, any candidate who believes the wage gap is a legitimate issue shouldn't be near a single political position. Explain to me one reason why Hilary is better than Trump, just one. And don't say "cuz trump is a racist and sexist who wants to build walls!"
>>720004028 look at it like this, while he spend his campaign saying what he was going to do
>build that wall >repeal and replace >make America great again
she spent it saying what a bad choice he'd be
>I'm with her >we can't give him the codes >russia russia russia
Now while her points may have all been valid, I'm not saying they were or weren't either way, this is still a terrible way to run a campaign, "I'm with her" is so insanely weak compared to "Make America great again"
I could elaborate further but I think you get my point. He's a complete idiot, but he ran his campaign much better than her, which says a lot about her, honestly.
>>720004234 You do realize that this exact thing you just said is exactly what would happen if Hilary Clinton was the president? The only reason you would think that way is if you automatically viewed anyone with money as the "corporate candidate". You want to know who is the actual corporate candidate? The candidate who will take money from literally anybody including the countries that produce ideologies like ISIS.
There are numerous scandals on the shoulders of Hilary Clinton being involved in this while the only thing people can say about Trump is "he said mean things about people on twitter and wants to build a wall"
Not sure how anyone could vote trump. You guys thought it was between 2 people but how many voted in the to get him the front runner. The DNC posted him as the easy target and shit on all of the other R candidates. So you guys were thought to believe he won debates just with zingers alone from the highlights. But this man is not the best of the worst by any means.
His choices for secretaries are absolutely fucked. No one can say anything against that after finding out each one of them are billionaires. Also Betsy Devols? Wtf is that? She has no qualification what so ever and is going to get denied her seat. First time in American history. Or Tom pointer I think his name is with the blantant corruption he has with the medical industry openly. Made 500k of a bill he signed by dumping stocks into a company that would be affected. Lastly, he has broken a good amount of his promises before even entering the Whitehouse. No Muslim ban No wall at Mexico's expense. Pesos don't get collected from Tarrifs and leads to embargo No jailing hillary No replacement of obamacare in sight or the choice to choose between them. Just a extremely vague excecutive order that doesn't actually say anything.
The guy was at 32% approval rating when he took office. Lowest in American history. These aren't the same as pills btw. That's likelihood to vote and not how they feel about the president.
>>720004421 See...shit like this. "Liberals will still find a reason to cry"...I am a liberal. I did not protest. I did not cry. I don't need a coloring book or a safe place. I didn't vote for Hillary and I certainly didn't vote for Trump.
Want to stop the divide in the county? Stop saying ignorant shit like this.
>>720004421 Basically this, I would give Hilary a chance even though she doesn't deserve it if she were to win.
Our political system should be at the very least respected within our own country, protesters are pathetic no matter which side they are on. Call the candidate out on their bullshit and advocate for what is right, that's all you should do.
>Explain to me one reason why Hilary is better than Trump, just one. And don't say "cuz trump is a racist and sexist who wants to build walls!"
His jobs "policies" are shit. They'll last 10 years at max, at which point those people will be fucked by the time didn't spend on better solutions. Patch jobs to make people look the other way while Trump's buddies get richer and while we damage the long term future of the nation through his lack of fucks for the environment. That's not hippy bullshit, that's tainted drinking water and dragging our economic feet while fucking China of all places shows us up.
We're sacrificing time and resources for short-term gains.
Not saying Hilary would have been great for that, but she wasn't going on about "clean coal"
>>720004757 But the American people didn't decide to have him president. Yes most of America is retarded but having someone vote on our behalf to chose the president is unheard of. All the other positions are up to the public but not the presidency. That's not a republic or democracy at that point
>>720004479 I agree and and that's one of the reasons I think she's shit, just less harmful shit in the long run.
Dems were arrogant and thought their victory was self-evident, so they focused on attacking rather than addressing the issues. The established dems deserve everything they got and more, it's just too bad we'll all pay for their mistakes.
>>720004687 That's because the only people who thought Trump was actually going to follow through with a muslim ban or building the wall were insane right wingers in their 80s or the entirety of the left who wanted to use him saying that as an excuse for him not to win.
I mean what do you think is more plausible. The guy who knows exactly how to manipulate entertainment says a few ridiculous things to get more media attention than literally any other candidate in history, or trying to ban all Muslims from entering the country? If that's even possible to do, which I'm pretty sure would directly violate our own constitution.
>>720004723 Cleaning up your own trash is an essential part of not being shat on, anon. I call out nutcases that support Trump for stupid reasons, why can't you do the same? If you do, good on you. However, a majority of the left doesn't seem interested in even talking about the fact that by simply being a Trump supporter you're liable to be drug out of your car and beaten, or most recently shot for simply attending an event where some faggot makes jokes at the expense of the opposition.
Where are the protests against violence from the left? I woke up today to find out my school is giving a $2 million grant to everybody that isn't a straight white male for STEM classes, there were no protests for that blatant racism and sexism.
Liberals WILL find a reason to cry, being the exception doesn't make a general statement false.
>>720004829 I more or less agree, and think you leave a lot of the positives out, except on the debt issue.
We've seen increased spending, stimulus investing, helps boost up the economy so we can scale back later and be in a better position because people are on a firmer footing. Have you heard of better ways? I'm sure people would be extremely interested
>>720005273 >being a Trump supporter you're liable to be drug out of your car and beaten, or most recently shot for simply attending an event
March 7 1965, see "Bloody Sunday". Just for supporting someone you could have been beaten or killed.
This is the same crap that happened back in the late 60's, just with a different audience and players in the game.
Sure, I don't mind calling out left nut cases, see Al Sharpton.
But all this is beside the point. I see why people are mad. I see why Trump gained support and was elected. I can't say I agree with any of it. Anyone who thinks a billionaire and his other rich buddies are going to help the average working white man has a serious case of delusion.
Sorry about your 2 million dollar grant you didn't get. Sucks. I feel your pain. I had to pay out of pocket/student loans as well when I was in college, and I got nothing from it, didn't even graduate. Wasn't even eligible for grants from the government because I wasn't poor enough.
>>720005936 Not anymore we don't. There was a time once when we were great, we were #1. And then we outsourced damn near everything and complained when the jobs left. We said nothing while the rich moved their companies overseas for cheap labor all so they could continue to turn record and huge profits. I'm not faulting anyone for wanting to be successful, but how rich is rich? How many homes do you need to have? How many cars do you need to drive. Meanwhile kids in West Virginia are starving...
>>720006350 >And then we outsourced damn near everything and complained when the jobs left. We said nothing while the rich moved their companies overseas for cheap labor all so they could continue to turn record and huge profits.
>>720003229 Trump is an absolute fucking idiot, he literally told everyone in his inauguration speech that he's going to end poverty, gangs, drugs and fix the education system. His big mouth is setting him up for failure, I suspect from here onwards it will be downhill.
>>720003229 I think that the current anti-elitist thought process is good. The dangers for America now however is combining anti-elitism with anti-intellectualism. In my opinion the current trend of dismissing science and facts as subjective "alt-lies" is scary as fuck for everyone concerned.
The best way to control a large populace is to limit their intelligence.
It's what we did with the slaves; by keeping them uneducated we kept them dumb and docile. The ruling classes biggest enemy is and has always been education.
We do not want the slaves to find out that they are more populous than the masters so therefore we do not teach them maths. We do not teach them complex language because we do not want them to start communicating seditious intent amongst themselves.
Anyways, what am I saying? we are not slaves. We are free! We are ruled by the people we chose oursleves; Humble multi-millionaire property tycoons and their billionaire banker friends in Goldman-Sachs who wants to cut taxes for the rich and deregualte the financial sector for increased profits in the financial sector.
In New York.
Well done buying that anti-elitism ticket by the way. I think that ticket will get us far under president Trump.
(He tells it like it is, you know. Why would we even want to read through his taxes? I wouldn't even be bothered reading through my own.
I like his inauguration though. There must have been what, 3 million people there? Well, that's what Trump tells me, and as he is such a straight talker, I see no reason why I should question him or have a liberal media scrutinize his words and motives. Lock them all up I say. Especially Hillary. Oh wait, no Trump said that only plays well whilst on the campaign trail. They are friends now, so that's nice. I like Putin, he will make a great vp. His abs are so sexy...)
What was I saying? Oh yeah. Anti-Elitism, not anti-intellectualism.
I know a fair share of Trump voters, and I can assure you that more than half of them started regretting their choice the moment he appointed a cabinet of billionaires who have actively participated in impoverishing the whole country, and now out of the blue they will allegedly "help the poor who have been abandoned". Same goes for blowing up obamacare without any alternative plan whatsoever.
Right now all these voters are resorting to "well, I hope he doesn't fuck up" or "I guess Hillary was worse" as their main arguments. That, and Trump's abysmal approval rating speaks volumes of how quickly rural America is realizing they gave the office to the guy who fucked their lives up in the first place. The same guy that tax evades like a boss, and imports all of his shit from goddamn China.
The ultimate irony of all this is that Trump's insane economic policies won't really affect all the richer states that voted democrat, quite the contrary in fact. The ones who will take the blow will be the poor fools that voted him in. They have been baited so hard it's almost comical.
>>720007641 Except when he talked to Taiwan directly spitting in the face of "one China" now they have moved armed millitary carriers into the Taiwan straight as a warning of retaliation by force. Need I remind you that we are obligated to respond if Taiwan is assaulted. Good job trump.
>>720009553 China will exploit Trump's inexperience to it's fullest, I agree. Probably use the threat of Ameircan imperialism to crack down ón the recent civil liberties it had started to allow people to have but they will not fight anything other than a trade war witht he US.
Thank god Trump is forcing all US companies to leave china, eh?
>>720009875 No they won't leave and even IF they do they will allocate finances into pre established locations investing into further automation, witch Trump supporters seem to soo willingly overlook. And that automation will cut more jobs and increase production as we've been doing for years. The solution isn't more jobs but a different look as social policy and how to maintain the standard of living for our ever increasing population.
>>720003229 When i voted for him i did because he seems much easier to keep in line by public criticism than Clinton. He's more transparent in his emotions and intentions, not to say that he doesn't lie he just doesn't do it as well as Clinton.
I was looking forward to provide such criticism but because of the shit tier public discussion it all devolves into name calling.
The trump supporters will respond to any criticism with "BUT CLINTON" and the same happens the other way arround when trying to dismiss retarded critics going "MUH RACISM, MUH DEATH SQUADS".
CLINTON DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER ANYMORE.
It's not Clinton vs Trump anymore, it Trump vs everyone, like it should be with any president, but everyone is to angry and retarded to do the nesessary thing.
>>720010176 Shouldn't it be more Trump & everyone vs corruption and injustice?
There is good reason for the b-but the opposition argument because our political system has devolved from the best of the best candidate to best of the worst.
We have shitty candidates, this produces a climate in where the only required method of winning the presidential seat is to expose more compromising information about the opposition.
>>720010357 Anon said he wasn't qualified. He is qualified, it's as simple as that. There is no "round 1", there is running for the presidency in which case you only need to be 35 and a citizen. What you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with running for the presidential seat or being qualified.
The moment something ACTUALLY HAPPENS I'll agree with you, but all I see is speculation. I'm afraid you'll have to peddle bullshit to somebody else, you're referring to what would be called a conflict of interest.
Trump is more than capable of making money without the presidential seat.
in the age of trolling and everything being corporate/hollywood entertainment, its actually the perfect zenith of this part of our society.
trump, president. successful troll is successful. fucking classic. I'm gonna laugh my ass off for the next 4-8 years. He's so inept for the job it's going to cause havoc for both dems and repubs, hes going to be the biggest disruption in the system, possibly ever. He's not smart enough to be evil like Hitler, to be so calculated in his destruction. He's basically going to be flailing his arms for an entire term and like a bull in a china shop, just cause random havoc. It's going to shake shit up, and it's going to crack the foundation of how this country's politics have been going. The same stale, corporate, bullshit politics. Trump won't be great or anything, he doesn't know wtf hes doing.... and thats the point. He trolled his way into the white house, showed how easy it could be for a d-bag with no experience to win because of all the inbred retards in america, and liberal cucks who dont actually vote.
It's literally the most entertaining thing, especially in american politics, to happen since Bill got a BJ.
Grab your popcorn and buckle your belts, it's going to be a hell of a ride for the next 4 years, but at least itll be entertaining.
Nobody wanted boring old Hillary "world war III, corporate she-robot" Clinton to win, come on.
>>720010779 Of course he is. All that talk in the campaign is bullshit. The people he put in leadership of all departments are hostile to those departments. They are there to hollow them out and leave their shells standing in place.
Hillary would have been business as usual. She was smart, expert on police, an average leader, with a hawkish streak that could have led us to a war of some sort. Trump is a revolting, dangerous clown. A Russian puppet. He's going to pull us out of NATO and destabilize Europe. Using ISIS as the boogey man, he's going to take us right down the toilet. I predict in 4 years, when Pence runs (Trump will have resigned by then), he will lose and the GOP will not win a presidency for a generation.
>>720005605 You mean everything he said he is going to do. And considering how honest and consistent he has been so far, I don't see him actually doing anything outside of lining his pockets at my expense.
>>720011215 I only hope my party, the Democratic Party, will stop acting like a bunch of fucking detestable bitches, pointing the finger at everyone for racism/sexism. I loved Bernie, but now he's apparently trying to shore up his black vote with Ellison. Big mistake. The GOP is going to hang that NOI asshole around our necks like a dead albatross.
>>720011230 >implying those things were ever going to last anyway
name one politician who wouldn't have been greedy enough to sell off the last of our undeveloped land, who wouldn't have furthered to niggerfy our "education" system, who doesn't care about the future well-being of the people.
Only Bernie, and the Dumbocrats clearly didn't want him. So fuck it, this country is going to fall like Rome soon. It's going to be chaos, madness. It might not be fun, hell, we might all be killed, but at least it'll be entertaining. At least we wouldn't die a slow and meticulous, boring death, by continuing to be poisoned and controlled by our government. Hillary would have been a much more miserable way to go out.
I'd rather have chaos in the streets and life or death survival situations than marching like sheep quietly off a cliff into a mass grave. So fuck you faggot... america isnt built to last. I guess some men just want to watch the world burn.
>>720011581 Yeah, Nixon created a constitutional crisis. Bush started spying on all Americans without warrants after saying there would be no spying on Americans without warrants, and when he got caught, he said he could do that because the law didn't apply to him.
I just think he will make a stand...our country needs to stop putting out millions to other country's...we have to get control of our debts...spending is easy...and need less government...to many...what the Fuck is that agency?...time to pay attention to AMERICA now!...good or bad...we need to bring back industry...better and livable wages! can't survive on Walmart and fast food ...wages...
>>720011893 See you're confusing intent. I said black people killed because they were black, these two examples are police brutality, not racism. Show me a single piece of evidence from either of these cases where the injustice took place because they were black and not because the police were assholes. (Referring only to these two instances)
However, we see instances where there are black people actually dragging people out of cars saying "he white beat his ass, that's what you get for voting trump".
>>720011893 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-57kJNm1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCx3ov55tUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIMt9JxugQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUkT4Z-_xCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF_eGq6KKUs Stop me when there are enough examples for you.
You want to know who actually gets assaulted on a daily basis? Anybody who disagrees with the "oppressed and marginalized" minorities
>>720012262 Trump doesn't want to fix any of that. Like his fucking wall. Most illegal labor is in construction. All he's have to do is increase INS enforcement on construction sights. But business doesn't want him to, and he's a developer, so he doesn't want to give up his cheap construction, either. He wants to waste my tax money on a wall that won't keep anybody out. You're not getting your wall. You're a retarded douche. Thanks for playing.
>>720003440 Hillary started a crusade against a cartoon frog, Trump took the people calling him deplorable and embraced it, he's opened up his mind to the belief of climate change, and honestly, I'd argue Hillary has an even bigger ego than he does.
>>720012915 >Waste tax money What about the clitoris running for presidency talking about setting a no fly zone over Syria, that would be a waste of money that was even greater than a more miniscule version of the great Wall across one of our borders.
>>720003229 Honestly, I hate the guy. I only voted for him because I fucking hate Hillary and the corrupt shit she's done. Voting for Trump was just my passive-aggressive way of giving the middle finger to our government and every fake ass politician/celebrity that supported her. Also, I wanted to see those annoying leftists cry like the pathetic babies they are. It's pretty damn entertaining.
Giving him a chance. Going to take the good with the bad. Hold him accountable when he needs it. He has picked a lot of scum fucks for cabinet positions and he has some dangerous policies, but a few of them are pretty good actually.
I was the biggest Trump supporter during the campaign. I lean conservative, I liked him being an outsider and "shaking things up." But I am really starting to have buyer's remorse. It is becoming clearer and clearer that the man is not fit to be the most powerful person in the world. I openly admit it, but most of his supporters are so stubborn, they would never admit the guy they supported isn't doing great.
in short they they DO NOT KNOW meantime we reduce our stuff while china pumps everyone share of pollution out and some while making everything because we cant compete under all these damn regulations...
>>720012393 Well why doesn't every liberal on the planet just go ahead and get offended then?
People these days are WAY too concerned with what others say and WAY too easily offended by it. Instead of focusing so hard on what others are saying and how they're offending you focus instead on what message YOU want to share, then run with it.
>>720014030 It's like macroevolution: it's now considered a scientific law. Even though there's tons of evidence to say it doesn't exist, such as how data taken prior to 1979 doesn't cover all of the earth. Even if global warming does exist, I doubt humans are its cause.
>>720014407 We've been living with Social Democracy since Roosevelt, the most popular president in history, who got elected four times. Your grandma probably depends on Social Security, too, so fuck off, faggot.
>>720014030 Jesus Christ, you're retarded. These are predictions based on different factors. Green house gases exist and there is current too much for the environment to handle in an effective way, so to speak.
Fucking hoax, my ass. Drop on by to /sci/ sometime. You might actually learn something.
>>720003229 I don't give a single fuck abour amerifats, no one takes them serious anymore, but Trump was excellent choice. Why? Obviously, he is gonna deliver best quality keks for the next 4 years, along with Mike 'zap the gay away' Pence
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