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So I'm thinking of going into the military. If I do, it

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So I'm thinking of going into the military. If I do, it will be a ground troop MOS. Don't ask questions, I just prefer it. But should I go Marines or Army Infantry 11B?
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Marines. If you're going to being doing mundane/retarded tasks you might as well look pretty doing it.
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>>719972254
How about taking a job that you won't regret in few years from now
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>>719972735
military pays for college after a certain amount of years

plus if OP is broke and has no skills this is the best option, do military then free college
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I appreciate your machismo, but now is not the time. Ground pounders are detail bitches. Unless you want to earn your masters in landscaping in under 6 months, do something else or wait for another war to start. 11 gangbangs have fuck all of a job to do right now.
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>>719972254
I'm tired of trying to convince naive kids how stupid it is to be in the military. You stubborn fuck. The only beneficial thing about it is a GI Bill after a few years of doing retarded shit.
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Make sure you get 11b in your contract from your recruiters, if they give you 11a then when you get to basic they'll randomly assign you as either b or c
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>>719973023
When do you think another war would be?
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>>719973209
11x not 11a. 11a is an infantry officer.
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>>719973339
Isn't 11x special forces? Sorry friends it's been about a decade for me
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>>719973319
It's honestly hard to say. I'd prefer sooner than later because garrison life is worse than stage 4 black herpes.
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>>719972254
11B - don't be a pussy
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>>719973500
18 series, but not 18X.
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>>719973500
18x is special forces.
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>>719973627
False. That's initial training, not the job.
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>>719972254
Army, less chance of getting shot butt everyones a faggot.
Marines, you will most likely be bodily injured but will get to fuck hoes.
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>>719973693

if youre in the infantry and not playing slap ass, get the fuck out
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19d
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>>719972254
Army. You have way more opportunity to do cool shit than you do in the Marines. Such as airborne, air assault, pathfinder, rangers, special forces, sniper, squad designated marksman, small arms master gunner, the schools go on and on.
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>>719973888
Marines do almost all the same shit. They just don't wear the tower of power to show they'll be 4 inches shorter by the time they're middle-aged
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Right now the Marines or the Merchant Mariners is the way to go military wise.
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>>719972254

Coast Guard. They see more action.
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>>719974798
Puddle piratefag here. We actually get to go out and do shit everyday, instead of training for years and years and probably never getting to actually do what we trained for
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As other people already stated, don't. Unless you do it for paying college.

Peaceful times tend to do the same with everything everytime it goes prolonged. That's why you get so much weak ass'd liberal faggots running rampant and you get stuck'd all day doing menial bullshit and getting yelled at by a retarded stupid fuck that had the mental capacity of a toddler.
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>>719972254
Trump is going to get you killed dumbass.
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>>719972947
Small percentage of military actually capitalize on that.

Most of the people who join the military are too fucking stupid for college, hence why they join the military.
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>>719972254
If you want to be a better killing machine, Marines. If you want to be allowed to think a bit more, Army.
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>>719972254
Army 12b. Best mos out there. I should've fucking picked that instead of dumb old 12w.
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>>719977248
I'm enrolled in college and I'm also in the army. I have a 4.0 gpa too.
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>>719977535
Retired 12b here. Good MOS if you like driving on a dirt road waiting to get blown up.
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>>719977606
majoring in what? Having a 4.0 in a liberal arts major isn't the same as having a 4.0 in a STEM major.
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Go Army, fuck 11b, you'll be a running sandbag that paints rocks all day. You want a cool as fuck job that gives you plenty of opportunities after discharge? Go 89D EOD. I did, best decision ever. It isn't like the "real" Army as in you don't get treated like a fucking retard. You will have respect. School is very difficult but very worth it. Don't be a fucking idiot. Get trained. Ask me anything u want.
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31B here.

Go 11B. Do not join the marines.
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>>719972254
Marines for anything front line, first into combat.

Army for special forces. Right now as an 11b you'll be just going to the range every month and be tasked with running the cleaning crew, or get stuck doing base entry duties

I'm not a 11b just a MP. I find the marines are more dopey than the army. But have a higher sense of pride

Ask people that are in currently. Don't talk with the people the recruiter knows because they'll just give you a guy who says nothing but good things. You want to hear both sides.
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>>719978989
Fuck ft. Leonardwood
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>>719979709
I went thru basic in mid winter, finished ait early summer. Shit sucked was 20 below.
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>>719972254
anything other than 18c is for faggots
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>>719972254
Everyone fucking thinks they'll be joining special forces sniper garbage. Just join for the self respect

Join the fucking Marines, they're literally the most effective branch of the military

I just joined about a week ago. If you want to get cucked by a Marine, join the Army
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>>719972254
you could always reenlist and keep rising through the ranks, make a career out of it

or you could just use GI bill BS to get educated

I know a few Marines, seen them at various jobs/offices ive worked at. They have pretty high self respect and confidence
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>>719980449
>I just joined a week ago

Fuck man, I bet MEPS was the hardest experience you went through.

Enjoy painting rocks and fucking nasty base girls
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>>719980090
Started Nov 1st, had a 13 week test cycle. Winter sucked balls. Going home for xmas was cool though
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>>719980449
I told him to go EOD, no response though, read my comment above OP
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>>719976482
what are you even talking about

I can guarantee you peaceful times are not ahead

Something big is about to happen, and seeing combat would be fuckin great
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>>719980586
Yeah, 3rd week in we had xmas leave.

Best part was eating real food. Worse part was coming back to PT and finding our DSs in our faces for being fat
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>>719980560
MEPS was just a huge suck fest, pretty sure the doctor that watched me spread my cheeks had a hard on

I actually scored maximum on the ASVAB and picked a complicated MOS, so I probably won't be "painting rocks"

In any case, I'd rather do that than join the Army.
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>>719980887
>thinking that the MOS you select is guaranteed in the marines

If you scored in the 1% percentile then you wouldn't have joined the marines. Enjoy licking windows, mouth breather.
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>>719980449
>most effective

bahahaha, how the fuck are you even qualifying that?

If you mean more expendable, you are correct.

If you mean soldier for soldier, I can guarantee an airborne ranger is 1000x more effective than any marine but at the end of the day no one's invincible and even the best motherfuckers can catch a random round and be lights out at the drop of a hat. No need for the dick measuring contest.
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>>719980887
>I scored MAXIMUM on the ASVAB

Anon, they use numbers not words to score your ASVAB. Are you sure you didn't just spread your cheeks for some stranger who said they were a "doctor" in the alley behind MEPS? This sounds far more likely for a potential marine.
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>>719981386
Marines love getting power fucked, just ask any DI
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>>719972254
If you're so intent on being a call of duty character, go marine corps. If you're gonna get shot at, at least utilize the best training resources America has for infantry.

There are combat jobs that aren't grunt. Check your options. Perhaps force recon. If you're gonna be a dumbass, be the best at it.

Also, dont take any bonuses. None. They always get the money back from you when you inevitably become broke from booze and hookers while overseas.
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Do not join the military, I'm in the military it's not fucking worth it, go to school for the love of god
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>>719972254
Dude don't go Infantry. They don't get cross trained into anything. Go Combat Engineer. You can get your heavy machinery license and still kick down doors and slay bodies with infantry.
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>>719973120
>When you're unpatriotic, liberal, and hate everyone who doesn't share your views.
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FFs if you're really going in get a profession or take advantage the that sweet, sweet G.I. bill (Presuming American)
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>>719981767
Don't forget the sapper course, bitches love sappers.
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>>719981767
Don't listen to this retard I am a combat engineer, and literally do none of this shit.
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>>719977146
Found the liberal
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>>719981863
I guess it just depends on how lucky/unlucky you are. One of the guys I met in AIT did this shit. When he was transferring to 35N
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>>719982141
You got a point, but that's pretty much the whole Army
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>>719973836
>Cav Scout
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>>719981863
I agree with this guy
Walking around with a metal detector and putting 124 iron posts is not badass
Shit, I wish I'd gone 11B
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>>719982492
Hell I'd rather do that. I'm a Bradley operator and that shit is fucking gay by the way
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>>719981767
Fuck combat eng., go EOD. Grow them balls quickly
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>>719982644
>Plant post
>Smack smack smack smack smack
>Walk 15 yards
>Plant post
>Etc. Etc....
>124 fucking times
>In full fucking PPE in 110 bullshit degrees
Why in the living fuck did I pick 21B?
I'll say this, though. For some POG's we drank way more than the grunts
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>>719972254
Go be a Ranger, it's easier than you would expect. It's only 2 months of being hungry and tired.
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>>719972254
>was inf, went airborne, worked with skysharks and 160th, went to sear school, did air assault, learned ord, did 3rd chem training, went to CBRN school, served 12 yrs, got 3 tours, 42 monhts combat.
isnt worth it.
>no skills transfer over
>simple things in life are ruined for you
>all civi's are sheep and are hard to tolerate
>youll love guns and stuff that disturbs normies bad.
my take
>should have taken a job i could do on the outside.

dont get me wrong i had fun here and thee.
good bros
scary times
close calls
but over all its like waking up from a dream and after you try to explain it and no one gets it
you try to wake others to see the better things that matter more than tv and facebook but all you are to them is a "strange veteran"
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Be a Navy Marine Seal Sniper, they're the toughest BOOYA

Have fun fighting for globalist puppet masters
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>>719973836
literal faggots
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You do realize that they don't take fat basement dwelling fucks right?
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>>719983819
Dude... thank you
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>>719984957
i was one of the "army of one" idiots
i drank the cool aid by the pitcher
about a 2/3 through my second tour i began to wake up...we all did
first deploy group was 87 troops now only 9 are alive and are either wheel chair trapped or fucked for life
watched bros die, watched innocents die, watched bombing miss drops.
the fuck was going on?

all the time on the FOB contractors would blab about we are so fucking dumb for serving
meanwhile we protect them they collected 6 figure pay non taxable and lived in way better shelter than us.
now im out, vets are treated like shit, the va is fucked up
>sure we have done and seen more than..blah...blah
but its like getting into a bar fight with a civi....whats the point? he wants to brawl and your trained to kill.....the laws are gnna grind your ass because "your more dangerous" but good fucking luck on using any military xp for any job....they ten to look at us like we are autistic or mad men....

if i had known then what i know now....id have spiked myself with weed acid or something and got barred from the mil in the first place
i had a way better career path before i had to get all "tough guy" god i was fucking stupid
so many things are never the same...even my family is weird about me coming around to visit.
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>>719985758
My dad did private protection in Kandahar, shit hit the fan on the way out for them.

He had to call for support

Marines didn't show up, air force didn't show up, foreign NATO armies didn't show up

But the us army showed up.

Had a whole convoy of bradleys and those humvees fitted with mk19s.

You saved his life and all the private contractors who where with them.

Fuck what they say to you, you guys saved him from being burned alive and dragged around the city.

Thank you.
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>>719986594
Im glad he made it home /b/ro

I try to be proud of my service but living with the nightmares the sleep loss and the way the world approaches and treats us....it just wears the spirit down.
i gave everything i had short of my life.
was wounded twice
now, still waiting for the va to asses my nerve damage, back issues, and apparently i have TBI's and shouldn't have been put back into the fight as soon as i was.
waiting in line for benefits and medical gets bad
not being able to get my family or any gf to understand hurts....everyone thinks im crazy or just broken.
i just have seen the madness that dwells behind the pretty face we put on humanity

There was one op i went on that has stuck with me
we went to a opening for a market opening that the coalition had built so the farmers and merchants would be out of the sun.
had Jordanians there ANA ect
i was helping pass out note books candy ect to kids (one of the few nice things i got to do)
3 kids come over and want to be soldiers to make their father proud >tell them work hard and go for dreams
like 20 mins later a suicide bomber let off a vest in the croud
>ANA injured Jordanians injured
>mostly old men, women, children shredded by blast and debris
try and help wounded
>cant do much worth shit
>still cant take kids screaming today
>freaks me out

i was dumb enough and drunk...i spoke of some of my service to my dad
pretty sure he felt like his inability to talk me out of serving or sending me to college made my nightmares his fault.
i feel like i let him down in all of it.
now im just getting by and cant stop with PT and range time on the norm.
i guess he worries im trapped in it.
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>>719987828
PTSD-like symptoms appear to be very common.
Did you know this was possible when enlisting?
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>>719988219
Don't be condescending to him you fucking asshole.

You obviously don't expect to see kids getting fucking blown to pieces by other kids.
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>>719988219
>had no idea my friends and family would bail out let alone the benefits / help we where promised once we had done our duty

hardest pare is making the bridge between the worlds work on the daily.

if i could just show my family im not some monster.....im still me...the kid they knew.... i just have a very different view on live and the nation.

i guess its the feeling discarded and useless now that bothers the most.

>>719988507
thanks /b/ro
ya.....when a round passes through your squad leaders head and buries itself in your right shoulder......things are never the same ever......and seeing people turned to what amounts to the consistency of road kill or gazpacho.....your never ready for it......and god if i could only forget.
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>>719987828
You should find a veterans support group with non-civilians try to talk things out.

Don't medicate yourself and become a lifeless drone like the rest of the soldiers who have ptsd.

Find the support you need
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>>719981386

Congratulations, you scored high on the ASVAB. That's like saying you are king of the retards. The ASVAB is meant to identify basic problem solving skills that barely exceed the IQ of a retarded child.
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>>719973209
What the fuck are you spouting?
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>>719973836
Kek
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>>719988721
You just need someone to talk with, share your experiences.

There are too many broken soldiers and not enough help. I haven't seen combat so I wouldn't have any idea in how to comfort you.

I hope you find help and the nightmares will cease and you find comfort in all the chaos.
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>>719973888
You forgot postal school. You get to be a mailman!
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>>719989342
ill carry on until i cant ruck up any longer battle

Thanks.
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>>719978989
I served in Afghanistan in 2007. I can confirm that Marines have a bigger sense of pride than any other SM. By far, the worst bunch is the Air Force airmen. They all should be removed from the battlefield, including JTACs.
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>>719972254
wait you get to pick?
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>>719989561
I think the only ones who are allowed out of the TOC are para rescue. Those guys are the only ones who I would trust when you are landing in a hot zone, got a TIC and have hajis firing soviet mortars.

Those guys could start an IV line in a bumpy ass blackhawk while taking AK rounds.
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>>719972254
Go into the Air Force my boi it's pretty good
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if i dont ever want any hardship in the military and just do it for the college, should i do air force?
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>>719989476
Just remember you aren't alone. Find that help before you pop that smoke
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>>719990484
pretty much
combat wise air force is useless they even fuck up smart bombs so they go dumb on drops.
but they do have many benefits and tons of time to go to school during service
>while in uniform you get financial assist so you can save your g.i. bill
>just dont try parading being chair force unless you did something besides drive a desk full time go ord or something.
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>>719981801
T.
Fucking
Riggerd.
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If you don't go Cav you are making a mistake.
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>>719991255
did spur ride
still gets me no where
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>>719972254
Listen to me.

If you really, REALLY want to do this do it, but if you just want a job, or you just can't get a job near you, get another job besides the Army or the other branches. If you figure out that you don't like that shit half way though, you're going to have an awful fucking time. Getting out of the armed forces is MUCH harder than getting in, anybody can get in, anybody. Another thing you need to consider is how physically fit you are for basic training. Now you don't even have to be fit to pass basic to be honest, anybody can pass basic, not because its easy, (it's not) but because it's impossible to fail if you want to be there, they'll make damn sure of that. If you fail hard on one crucial event, you'll either get it rescheduled, or just move to another training company. Another thing to consider is if you want to see combat, don't join. You likely wont, and that's just how it is. I know people who wanted to see just blood, guts, gore and explosions, and now there stationed in hawaii doing paper work and field exercises setting up tents and taking them back down again. But I cannot emphasize enough, make sure you want this. You're life will change DRASTICALLY weather you want it all the way though, or don't half way though. It's no small decision, think for a couple months.

Whatever you decide, good luck.
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>>719991255
Yeah, join cav if you love doing shitty training exercises and trying to not stab yourself when you've got a commanding officer who's a month out of west point and doesn't know shit because he slept through his land nav course and are now taking orders from a 35 year old staff sergeant who smokes 8 packs a day, never sleeps and carries giant sized DFAC stolen Red Bull bottles.
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>>719991846
I'm sorry you had a bad time
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>>719990747

ordnance disposal or loading missiles onto racks?
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Just shoot yourself in the head now and save the Muslims the trouble dipshit.
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>>719992139
drop ordinance prep crew
the bomb boys
>no idea what they call themselves
>never met an air force who wasn't lording over us or needing us to save them
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Don't do Marines.

Do 11X Option 40.

Rangers > Marines.
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>>719973319
Well not for another 4 years most likely, if Trump wins after that you'll probably have to wait 8, on another note, finish training and go corporate if you can't wait, that shit pays.
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French foreign legion
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>>719972254
>11B grunt faggot

>not 1a7x1 aerial gunner

Fuck grunt life, chair force is best. Least likely to get mangled and killed. Ez life on base, lifting weights and getting swole. Then shooting shit out of an osprey hatch.
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>>719972254
I was 63b and saw plenty of shit. If you're going in and not going green to gold, do something that will leave you with a skill set. Unless you plan on doing private contracting afterwards, you're fucking yourself by going 11b.

And you can always cross train in the future. Skip OSUT and get some skills in AIT and then worry about combat "proficiency" afterwards. I use quotations because I was a better marksman/tactician than probably 75% of the grunts I ever met in the Army. It is what you make of it, really.
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