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Need your help /b/ I can't get a definitive answer on whether

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Need your help /b/
I can't get a definitive answer on whether or not I should hate this guy. One side argues he screwed customers by increasing his drug price by an absurd amount, the other side suggests most people won't be affected by this as the insurance companies will.

Which side is true? Thoughts? Please keep it civil, this is for informative purposes. And WuTang album nonsense aside...
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If you can look at that face and not want to punch him your are Jesus Christ returned and are probably in the wrong line of work.
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>>719929472
What part of 'keep it civil' did you not get?
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>>719929647
The Civil War killed more Americans than any war in U.S. history.

Anon wasn't being civil enough.
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>>719929647
I'm sorry my lord. Please forgive and remember me in the coming rapture.
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>>719929290
He is not a bad guy, he is actually super smart and we all laugh about stupid people and how they believe everything the media tells them.
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I once had faith in him, but he's just a cuck. Turns out he's a just another feminist.
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>>719930228

> super smart

why is he super smart? he is a super pussy that's what he is for not having the balls to talk to congress, and then 2 hours later he cries on twitter
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>>719929290
Watch his interview with vice, then read about why he was arrested lately, then think of his moral and ethical justifications of what he's doing, and if those claims are true, my verdict: he's a total asshole
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>>719930228
Forgot that in he's stream we make fun of stupid people.
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>>719930499
Haven't seen that yet so will have to check that out. Thank you for at least something informative
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>>719930499

he said he would re-invest the profits of his bogus pharma company back into research lol I don't believe for a sec
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>>719929290
hehe...very cleverly written
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>>719929290
most people dont get how complicated the shitty us health system is. yes, on certain plans the companies will pay a hefty premium for the drug. but: those who can pay for this kind of premium can afford it anyway. its less than 0.001% of their annual costs.

and he can use the revenue to really create new drugs. he is quite smart, and people claim wild things about him. the only problem i see is, that he likes to be on tv and lets people shit on him for no other reason than vanity.

if he simply stayed out of the spotlight, nobody would have cared.
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>>719930425
You are the kind of people we laugh about.
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>>719930425
he didn't talk to congress because he could implicate himself. law is complex and nobody must fall into some obscure sword for no reason.
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>>719930702
This
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We pay for the insurance companies, so we pay his stupid price hikes one way or the other. Brain better, Anon.
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>>719930578
Check it out, and please apply some critical thinking
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>>719930578
Reviled drug CEO Martin Shkreli arrested
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/17/news/companies/martin-shkreli-arrest-reports/
Martin Shkreli kicked off Twitter, Periscope
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/08/technology/martin-shkreli-suspended-twitter/
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>>719929290
The guy is a living meme. He is basically showing big medicine company loopholes and gets to act like an ass while doing it.
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>>719930882

implicate himself in what? He always said he didn't do anything wrong, if he was so sure then what was he afraid about? Oh right because he's a camwhore manchild and his lawyer was afraid he would say something autistic.
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Daddy shkreli
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If u need the AIDSmed, you can call him/tweet him etc. and get it for free.
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Honestly I think his use of streaming and internet bullshit made a bunch of fucking idiots believe his intentions were good though he literally shows no proof of giving the drug away to people who cant afford it and also shows no proof of using it to better the other drugs

A bunch of semi intellectual naive children bought into the whole 'hehe im a bad guy doing good thing' and he couldnt be happier to get the hate off his back
watch his interviews. Hes always looking away from the camera and webcam when telling key information pieces. Hes fucking lying and people are too slow to understand basic body language.
tldr he fooled you guys into thinking hes not a bad guy but is likely a bad guy
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>>719930903
brain better? i started this thread to learn this shit. dont be a smartass
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Like to keep it civil here, but he's an obnoxious autistic attentionwhore
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>>719931626
>Like to keep it civil here
>but he's an obnoxious autistic attentionwhore
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This sack is a hedge fund turd that shorted biotech and played with FDA regulation to have drugs stopped and stock plummet. Investigated multiple times for securities fraud and now FBI are SEC are going to make him an example.

He ain't smart by a long shot.
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>>719931499

dubs of wisdom

he plays lol so some autistic nerds can relate to him
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1) This retard is an avid Trump supporter.

Trump is anti capitalist who says companies can't profit as much as they can because Anti-Foreign.

Then you have this retard doing exactly that. He wants to make as much profit as possible meanwhile.

He is a contradiction much like the retard Trump administration.
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>>719929290
Hate this guy, easy call
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>>719931695
The truth isn't always in the middle
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>>719931057
Read
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>>719931311
the american law system is designed to say practically nothing until absolutely proven. don't make him an example for working along the system like everybody does when playing with the feds. for now, even the "fraud" is not proven by a long shot.
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>>719930425
>be like 30
>be the leader of a major drug company
>all as the result of work and talent
Yeah he's a smart guy.
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>>719929290
You think insurance companies won't pass the price increase on to consumers? It might take them a year or two, but they won't lose money.
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>>719929290
Insurance costs go up, so does the cost of coverage for the insured. It's that simple. This guy is but one cog in the machine that is rising healthcare costs.
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>>719931264
this
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>>719932085
Being smart and a narcissistic asshole is not a good combination
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>>719932085

>major

Not sure about that. He made some good trades earlier in his life but doesn't seem all that bright to me.
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>>719930673
> invest % of profits into research
> patent new boutique drugs
> multiply his investment by selling the drugs


silly anon
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>>719932306
Yes, his personality is repugnant. But there still hasn't been a rebuttal to the argument that the price increase benefits the consumer.
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>>719931057
Maybe someone can provide us with some "alternative facts"?
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> ITT people who hate the player, and refuse to play the game
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>>719932540
The high prices don't help patients
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>>719929290
He's one of us, that should help make it clear
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>>719931499
>>719931499
>>719931499
>>719931499
this
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>>719932517

>didn't work
>kicked off the company
>company went bankrupt
>played some lol later
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>>719932664
This quote is so empty, I laughed when applied in discussion about Saddam Hussein
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>>719932680
Insurance picks up the difference, so existing patients aren't affected. The higher profits can (partly) be used to fund charity programs for uninsured people who need the drug.
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>>719931499
Then prove to me Hilary is any better
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>>719932865
Critical thinking please
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doesnt he post on /b/???
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>>719932865
one drug isn't enough. the have to pocket some of the difference to buy more drugs and do the same. his company is just using a loophole in the system. if congress wanted to fix this, they could and, gulp-by-pepe, drain the swamp.
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If he's really this robin hood figure he says he is, it's so easy to prove, till that time, all evidence leads to him being an immoral asshole
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>>719929290
he's a troll, you should like him if he's trolling feminists. but not if he tries to buy 4chan. if he bought 4chan then he would probably release all our data or b& everybody for the lulz.
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>>719932939
>>719932939
What the fuck are you even talking about.
This thread is bout skreli or whatever?

I'll bite though, Clinton foundation. And if your gonna sit here saying its a fraud then just shut the fuck up and save yourself from typing.
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He's a kike yes?

But a based capitalist so...

I don't hate the kike
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He did it to screw over the fatcats, but normies took it as an attack on the average person because that's the tale that the news spun up.
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>>719929290
He was doing what he was told to do.

>Resession hits
>retired stockholders of medical company tell him to raise stock prices or get unemployed
>HE DID
>media calls him bad guy
>still gets unemployed but at least has severance
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>>719932939
The election is over dude. That argument only worked for trump only during the election and it never really worked that well.
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>>719933456
>lulz
correction frunz.
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>>719933831
Trumps and his appointed people's conflicts of interests are way worse than Hillary's ever were
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he's going to prison for a long, long time.

apparently he's responsible for the deaths of many people with cancer, after rising his drug price 7000%.

many inmates actually want to "rape, torture and kill that man".

very sad, all around.
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its hard to tell. He has a very "don't hate the player, hate the game" attitude about the whole thing, and pushes the blame to the insurance companies rather than the pharmaceutical industry. Also, whenever he's backed into a corner, he pulls the "I can't answer because pending investigations" card, so its impossible to have a fruitful conversation with him about it.


Personally, I don't think he's done anything more than any other big pharma CEO would do. He's exactly a grimy as any other person with a net worth of $100M. He's just the one who got caught.

He built his fortune himself though, his parents were both janitors. I can't hate on that.
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>>719934361
source
?
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>>719934275
FUCK OFF LIBCUCK SHILL.
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>>719934361
literal shitposting. he's on bail for securities fraud, not "you made the medicine too expensive, you meanie"
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>>719934468
Osama, don't hate the player, hate the game
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>>719934516
Be a freethinker and keep up critical thinking
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>>719929290
insurance companies pass those costs to consumers by raising premiums. This kind of gouging is exactly why America has the highest health care costs in the world.
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>>719930702
/thread

seriously i thought he was a jackass at first but he's actually helping more people by doing this
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>>719934763
but making your own opinions is hard
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Capitalism in the health and insurance business is what many people agreed to be unwanted
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>>719934516
Why are people still talking like this?

It's cringeworthy as fuck. Cuck is the Guy Fawkes mask of the modern age.
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>>719934763
sure, kid.
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>>719935035

yawn.
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>>719935004
But it will also make your dick hard if you succeed
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i hate him cause he looks just like lizzie mcguires little brother
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>>719929290
>won't be affected by this as the insurance companies will.
Insurance companies will pass the cost on to everyone.
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>>719935035
OH IS IT EFFAY TO TALK POLITICS A CERTAIN WAY NOW YOU LIBTARD LOSER?
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>>719935198
What? People pay money to insurance companies?
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>>719930702
>and he can use the revenue to really create new drugs.
no. he is going to use the revenue to pay off some fraud.
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>>719935139
MAYBE I SHOULD MAKE MY OWN OPINIONS THEN!
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>>719931057
Read these two too
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lol so assange said he's 'going after shkreli and trump's administration' now

Assange was cool, but i'm growing tired of his fuckery. it may be time.... to make him disappear.
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>>719935512
Source?
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>>719935035
Because they think it upsets you.
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>>719935130
Yawn? How is that worthy of a Yawn when incessant variations on one word every sentence has been in every comment and post in /pol/ for a year?

I'm pretty sure worldstar forums have a higher standard of sentence quality.
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He jacks prices up. Insurance companies do not pay for it. They are in it for a profit. So his raised rates are passed onto the rest of the schmucks that have insurance [i.e. - us]. Who do you think pays for hurricane and tornado disasters? Insurance companies? Nope. Check your rates over the past few years [if you got insurances] and I bet your premiums have gone up higher than the cost of living over the same time frame. No free lunches. People like him screw us all.
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>>719935750
Cuck is Yolo for different cunts
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>>719930425

"not having the balls to talk to congress"


i don't know if i've ever seen white trash levels like this on /b before. I'm legit surprised
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>>719929290
pro shkreli arguments
>if you don't want me to max profits on medicine, don't privatize medicine
>insurance pays the cost
>if you're uninsured/underinsured, there's a program to get the medicine free

anti-shkreli arguments
>RICH WHITE BOI
>MUH FEELINGS
>HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT WHITE BOI?
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>>719929290
Shkreli is a businessman that trolls nothing more, nothing else. I've watched Shkreli on periscope get phone calls from random people and try to justify reasons on why they hated him. All of them just stated the obvious "Your expensive drug is preventing people from getting treatment they desperately need". Shkreli just responded by saying that his drug is accessible regardless of insurance and circumstance.

I don't really care for Shkreli, but hating him for surging the prices of a pharmaceutical drug is ignorant. The most expensive drugs are at least 100k annually, and his drug is a fraction of the premier high end drugs.
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>>719929290
The so-called "life saving" drug he jacked up the price on was essentially a compound of two seperate already generic drugs.

ANY compounding pharmacy was, and is, capable of duplicating that drug with identical results.

My best friend was being treated with it and that's exactly the route he went. His monthly cost went up by $25.
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>>719931499

"shows no proof of giving the drug away to people who can't afford it"

"semi intellectual naive children"


are you really gonna talk about things you didn't even read up on (not his statements, the actual official statistics) and then talk about younglings like that?


seems to me you're being a naive psuedo intellectual kid who wants to sound smart and wants to have a point so bad that sounds good to yourself so that you can pat on yourself for being smart, trying to forge an entire opinion of your "READING OF LE BODY LANGUAGE" like a fucking proper milenial "i watched these movies now i'm psycho analysis god" pathetic piece of shit


embarassing, fucking embarassing
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Aside from Shkreli's multitude of felonies, his drug practices aren't unethical.

This is capitalism. If he wants to raise his costs 7000%, so be it.
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>>719936441
not true.

and a lot of people died.

however some Australian kids (geniuses) recreated the drug, and they're going to sell it for pennies on the dollar.

see? capitalism influences competition.
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>>719931499

people basing their opinions in a body language cue, the one point or gist of your post was about the looking away from the camera part, this is your average dumbed down trash individual with a ego so big it wont ever allow him to become good at antyhing. Highly opinionated in his own universe of perfect sense since his thoughts sounds so smart to himself. enjoy average because you're gonna have a lot of it
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>>719929290
He simply took advantage of supply and demand, he was the CEO of the only company making a drug, that had a solid subscriber base. They knew it would take months for someone else to make the drug (which is not patented anymore, ie. anyone can make it) so he took advantage for a quick profit.

That being said he sucks as a human being
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>>719937410
you sound undereducated.

do you live in a red state (please be honest)?
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>>719937410
>>719937410
...And the never showing proof of a concept that relies entirely on proof to be true,
You sound kinda... dumb.
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If the insurance pay more then your rates go up. It's all a scam and the shit rolls downhill.
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>>719937448
yeah libtard, we've covered all of that

cuck back to another anti-trump thread or something
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The aids man?
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>>719937700

English not being my native tongue makes my writing kind of less intricate, are you going to reply to my post with an actual response? your answer isn't very convincing in terms of not validating my very original point.
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>>719938099
>>719938099
>>719938099
Hey dipshit,
>>719937854
>>719937854
thats me, the guy who said the webcam thing. >>719937700
>>719937700
this is not me.
It just so happens someone else pointed how stupid you sound aswell
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>>719938099
mind your tongue you Russian filth

we will punish you. not now. but it's coming.

and if you're not a Russian, enjoy our sanctions and tariffs under God Emperor King Donald J. Trump.

This is America boy. Have some respect.
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>>719929290
Thotpatrol.com
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>>719938322
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>>719938322
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>>719938322
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>>719938322
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>>719938322
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i will domesticate your woman on sight
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He absolutely unironically called Obama a very good president. He's not that fucking well informed. lol
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>>719938322

"you sound stupid"


this is some high level debate going on here. you're legit just explaining exactly what anon said about you in post before, fucking low life
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>>719938718
the obama administration was a godsend to pharmaceutical companies, why would shkreli not consider that good?
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>>719932465
considering he created his fortune from nothing yeah
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>>719929290
Martin took advantage of the American system.

If he actually did develop new drugs (versus pull a thomas edison type move) and donate a million dollars to his old school he's a better person than most people lol.
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>>719929290
Listen to him talk, listen to his hearings.......if your answer is civil......then......you should recheck your humanity.
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>>719938928
>>719938928
>>719938928
samefag
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>>719939001
it was a general political debate during which he said that, he said Obama was great Bush was shit

of course that in particular is good he wasn't referring to just that though bro
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>>719939175
lol humanity

oh you little, sweet, ignorant, naïve snowflake.

there is no room for humanity, morals, integrity, honor, honesty or loyalty in capitalism.

and if you can't stand that? move to Venezuela.

Trump won. Get over it.
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>>719939175
That fucking congressional hearing was retarded. Those guys are absolutely fucking idiots.

They opened with WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE WOMAN WHO IS PREGNANT WITH AIDS WHO CAN'T GET THE MEDICINE?!

lol which literally doesn't happen because she gets the medicine for free

fucking dipshits especially that corrupt nigger
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All these fucking faggots bitching about him, how much time and money do they give back? Fucking cum stains spend all their money on themselves buying products made by people living in abject poverty.
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