Fourteen defining tenets of Fascism Lawrence Britt Free Inquiry 23:2 Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. 5. Rampant sexism. 6. A controlled mass media. 7. Obsession with national security. 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. 9. Power of corporations protected. 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. 14. Fraudulent elections.
1: Anticolonialism... in other words, nationalism against America. 2: Abortion. 3: Christians, conservatives. 4: You are now at war in Syria as well. 5: Pic related. Also, flashing his erection at the press pool. 6: Check. 7: Check. 8: Check. 9: Check. (Fannie Mae, GE, Google, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs) 10: Coal, oil, agriculture. 11: Conservative ones, check. 12: Of thought crimes, speech, and political ideology, and the police. 13: CHECK. 14: ACORN.
1. Yup 2. Nope 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. Nope 6. That was Hillary's shtick 7. In what way? Trump wants to scale back the Gestapo-like CIA spying on it's own citizens. 8. Nope 9. Don't know 10. Nope 11. Nope 12. Yes 13. Nope; prove it. A filed claim is not enough proof. 14. Nope; that's Hillary's shtick. Bernie should have won the Democrat nomination.
Oh thank God, apparently they're actually a democracy. That was scary, I was SO sure they were an insane. Dystopia dictatorship. thank GOD they call themselves a democratic republic that belongs to their people. That one thing totally overwrites everything else.
>>719919671 2. Endorsing torture, murdering families of criminals. 5. Grab 'em by the pussy. Female runs campaign, but almost no females in cabinet. 7. All indications he wants to give intelligence agencies more power for counter terrorism. Also talk of walls. 8. See Mike Pence. 9. Wait for the first union bash. 11. See him complain about SNL, celebrities and arts funding.
>>719923941 Import is only temporary. Might even get to keep the skilled ones. That civil war is a breeding ground for terrorists, its in your interest to keep the region stable. You already let your elites drive down wages through legislation, laughable minimum wage and right wing union bashing.
>>719918234 That list has been debunked countless times. What no one can deny is that fascism is collectivism. And no one can deny that it rejected individualism. And no one can pretend that it was not statism - it was all about everything is the state and nothing outside the state.
I ask anyone with even a shred of intellectual honesty, which American political party more closely sounds like that?
pic related, Mussolini, head of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party
>>719926286 Eh. Modern governments in developed industrial societies usually offer checks, balances, recourse, and some measure of opportunity for the public to influence policy.
Real true fascism is when the state and the monied interest are bound together, inseparable with no recourse or opportunity for the public offered.
I'm only pointing this out because the US for all its troubles continues to be one of the freest countries on the planet. You'd hardly know it because of the tenor of the times and everyone's constant bitching but that's part of the equation too. When that freedom slips away for real, as it did under Mussolini for example, the most staunch Anarchist going today would give their left eye to live in the the US of today.
>>719918881 >all of these things can be said for socialism or communism well.. let's see:
>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism no. >2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. no. >3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. .. this can apply, yes. >4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism supremacy, no. Avid militarism, yes. >5. Rampant sexism. lol no. >6. A controlled mass media. if Soviet style communism, yes, otherwise, no. >7. Obsession with national security. see 6 >8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. hell no, pun intended. >9. Power of corporations protected. no. >10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. fuck no. >11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. no way. >12. Obsession with crime and punishment not really, no, unless Soviet blah blah etc. >13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. no. >14. Fraudulent elections. if Soviet, no elections at all. If democratic socialism, then it's direct democracy.
.. so all in all; the scoreboard comes back: no match.
>2012+5 >Thinks democracy is the right way to rule a nation when even ancient greek philosophy concluded it as a corrupt form of governing >"Democracy = everyone rules to their own benefit" Unless we can learn to rule in everyone's benefit, every other option is shitty and causes suffering.
Oh and they'd have kept ACA! Sure it fucks over most of the middle class but if you are poor--free healthcare! It didn't fix anything really but it sure looked good to people who get help with rent from their parents and deny it while drinking in the lower east side with their lib friends!
>>719926923 Most people realize that a completely free market will have the same problems as communism eventually. You want the private and public sector to have the same push and pull as eachother. People feel like private is starting to have more pull and its throwing off the balance. But when you give the public sector more strength people will always ALWAYS call it communist fascism.
>>719927926 >>all of these things can be said for socialism or communism >well.. let's see: >>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism >no. lol, Mao wasn't nationalist. Castro wasn't nationalist. Derp. >>2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. >no. Gulags, forced famines, the hungermurder in the Ukraine, political prisoners, etc., etc. >>3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. >.. this can apply, yes. >>4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism >supremacy, no. Avid militarism, yes. Splitting hairs. >>5. Rampant sexism. >lol no. You must be fucking kidding. >>6. A controlled mass media. >if Soviet style communism, yes, otherwise, no. So free media in China under Mao? In Cuba? >>7. Obsession with national security. >see 6 >>8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. >hell no, pun intended. False. The religion of the state is what socialism is all about. >>9. Power of corporations protected. >no. Unless you think of the party as a monopolistic oligarchical corporation >>10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. >fuck no. Ha, labor has ZERO power under communism >>11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. >no way. Someone tell Solzhenitsyn and someone else look up the word Samizdat >>12. Obsession with crime and punishment >not really, no, unless Soviet blah blah etc. Because regimes in other communist regimes were chill >>13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. >no. Ha ha ha. >>14. Fraudulent elections. Or rather none.
>>719928017 You haven't heard Trump crew's statements about the media today? The republican party is just as responsible for the Iraq war (more so). And it wasn't a journalist that gave Hillary the questions in advance by the way you nitwit. Don't forget Trump openly talking about roughing people up at his speeches and implying Mexicans can't be judging his court cases. Congrats, I'm all triggered now, get in my safe space so i can headbutt you.
Corporations didn't become popular until the charter provision was weakened. Nobody wanted to bother with them before that. Afterward they won various other rights and privileges mostly through the courts. They are not so much protected as they are immune and those immunities make them worthwhile for business. If the original charter rules were re established corporations would swiftly fall our of fashion and business would either find or create the next best thing.
>>719928936 >it wasn't a journalist that gave Hillary the questions in advance by the way you nitwit Just a CNN employee. Not a journalist like former Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos, or like son of Mario Cuomo and brother of Andrew Cuomo Chris Cuomo, or a serious journalist like Chris 'I worked in several Dem senate offices' Matthews.
2017 and not realizing that the Dem party and journalism are almost entirely overlapping circles.
>>719929096 I think openly lying to the media and making major threats against them for calling him out should be a massive concern for both sides, much more so than raising taxes or changing zoning laws.
Fascism is collectivist in the sense that it cares most about the interests of society as a racial entity . Furthermore, fascists traditionally despise socialism and communism. It's an ideology that favors a mixed economy simply because of the competition aspect. You can see how economic leftist tendencies play out under fascism if you take a look at the Strasser-Crisis. Fascism strives to overcome class conflict by unifying under one racial identity while communism wants to resolve the class conflict itself. The more capitalistic a nation is the more it pushes class conflict to its limits. Then it results in one or the other. While fascism isn't in its very essence capitalistic it's the result of capitalism.
>>719929345 Believe it or not, democrats are centrist. Most educated people are centrists. Most people in media are educated and therefore centrists. If you lived outside of America you'd see the republican party has gotten so far right now that they're bordering on extremist.
>>719929526 Fascism is collectivist like socialism. Mussolini developed the theory of fascism as a purer articulation of the socialism he had always espoused. Hitler, of course, joined a socialist workers' party and renamed it National Socialism. Fascism is the child of socialism. Of course there was a lot of infighting between fascism and communism. A civil war. But fascism bears no resemblance to small-government, free market conservatism that emphasizes individualism.
>>719923568 This is why your side lost. When will you mongoloids understand there is no correct political choice? The things that divide the left and right are different stances in gray subjects? Your gray is no whiter than mine. Stop demonizing whole groups of diverse people who don't agree with you, andaybe people will CONSIDWR your reasons for your positions, instead of laying a sheet of paper down with virtue signaling, and then standing on it and claiming to be above the rest of us. It's asininely ignorant.
>>719929408 Ironically the bias is a result of market politics more than anything. Sure you get a lot of liberal kids out of journalism school writing the copy etc. but at the upper levels of publishing and editing, those offices are right across from the ad sales people who actually make the money that keeps the business running. So what you end up with is what we have, a lot of slant aimed at demographics because news companies make money by selling their audiences to advertisers. That's something to always never forget.
>>719928901 >lol, Mao wasn't nationalist. Castro wasn't nationalist. Derp. Mao was a madman, Castro was confined to an island he could hardly leave. >Gulags, forced famines, the hungermurder in the Ukraine, political prisoners, etc., etc. reductio ad Stalinum, opinion discarded. >Rampant sexism. >>lol no. >You must be fucking kidding. explain yourself. >So free media in China under Mao? In Cuba? I wrote Soviet style, China was Soviet style and Cuba was heavily leaning that way. Try Chile under Allende, for starters. >False. The religion of the state is what socialism is all about. false dichotomy, strawmanism, discarded. >Unless you think of the party as a monopolistic oligarchical corporation well yes, except.. it's not. And that aside, there doesn't even have to be a "party", read up on Marx, maybe? >Ha, labor has ZERO power under communism wut is the dictatorship of the proletariat? Fucking educate your sad, bourgeoisie ass. >Someone tell Solzhenitsyn and someone else look up the word Samizdat Soviet fallacy again, *yawn* >Because regimes in other communist regimes were chill no regimes are "chill", you infinite twit. Name me one regime, that is chill? >Ha ha ha not an argument >Fraudulent elections. >Or rather none. wut is democratic socialism durrr?
The guy who wrote the "Fourteen defining tenets of Fascism", Lawrence Britt, was just some no-name asshole with no background in politics or history. He was just some liberal business school graduate who plucked these out of his ass.
>>719928936 >implying Mexicans can't be judging his court cases He never did, he said that about one specific judge, Gonzalo Curiel, who has ties to La Raza. Leftists always do this reductionist bullshit, someone criticizes one woman or minority and they conflate it with a criticism of all women or minorities to manufacture the misogyny and bigotry they believe they're obliged to fight.
And even if Trump had questioned the judgement of all Mexicans--so what? How many hundreds of times a day do the judgements of white judges and juries get questioned due to their perceived racial bias? The left has established that that's a fair part of discourse; they can't get their panties in a twist when their "approved" ethnicities get hit with the same treatment.
>>719929538 Media reports on inauguration day numbers. There are photos and 250,000 witnesses. Trump says its a lie and threatens the media for saying it. When did Obama directly threaten the media for telling the truth? the problem is not so much the lie as it is the threats.
>>719929871 >But fascism bears no resemblance to small-government, free market conservatism that emphasizes individualism. .. except, it functions exactly like the feudal societies that fostered conservatism in the first place. Sovereignty has just passed, from a king to a despot, and in the libertarian utopia it will pass to a CEO.
this, is why we need democratic socialism, as in syndicalism.
It still heavily emphasis the competition aspect and it does in fact not eliminate private property rights. It's harshly opposed to socialism since the abolishing of private property is the key aspect of far leftist economics. Hitler himself used the cliche bourgeois idea of incentive as an argument against socialism. And again, I didn't say that fascism is capitalistic I merely said that it's a result of the class conflict capitalism produces.
>>719930174 Shh, anon, you know expertise and accreditation don't matter when a figure says that shit that the left agrees with. They stand behind a book on anthropology written by an ornithologist (Guns, Germs, and Steel) because it reinforces their belief that race doesn't matter; conversely they'll call Ivy League geneticists unqualified if they say something contrary to that belief.
Same thing here; if you spout something they agree with, you're an authority figure to them, regardless of how unqualified you are.
>>719930788 it did in Italy and Spain, Chile as well under Pinochet, but to a lesser degree in other places, true. The extreme nationalism espoused in fascism, will always lean into ethnocentrism eventually, at least bordering on classical racism. For there to be an "us" in fasicsm, there has to be a "them", and "them" will quickly become (((them))).
>>719929871 There were strong elements of socialism in those systems but those were mostly fan service and safety valve measures. One of the reasons elements of the right went so crazy over Obamacare is that there is a strong traditional thread of conservative thought that basically breaks down to '"free" shit = less freedom'. In other words socially liberal programs are not only costly they have traditionally been used to appease the masses who are getting royally screwed on a deeper, more fundamental level.
There are though plenty of fascist societies that simply never bothered to pass around the goodie tray while the noose was being tightened.
Everything you need to know about true Fascism is more or less imbedded in the name itself. The root word fasci or fascio means bundles. The specifics aren't that important it's the tie that binds that makes Fascism what it is. Groups within groups, groups bound together, a little of both etc. what matters is the tie, the inseparable, unimpeachable, sacred, often times sacrosanct bind. All governments have it to some degree but Fascism flaunts it, is steeped in it, that unassailable thing that binds us all and dare not be challenged.
>>719931437 He's talking about Trump not you. My assumption about you though; you're thin skinned, like the male version of a tumblrina, you've confused your masculinity with your politics, you lash out because criticisms of your views feel like direct attacks on you as a man now. How often do you say cuck?
>>719931274 Been in office less than a week and already you're politically aware enough to yell mexican and blame in a single sentence without being articulate enough to mention a single act of legislation, a bill, a grasp on reality or your own crybaby attitude that can't back up it's own 'facts'.
What happened to the libtard battlecry of giving everyone a chance? LOL... fucking hypocrite.
>>719918234 Things the US government had before Trump: > 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. > 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. > 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. > 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. > 5. Rampant sexism. > 6. A controlled mass media. > 7. Obsession with national security. > 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. > 9. Power of corporations protected. > 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. > 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. > 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. > 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. > 14. Fraudulent elections.
>>719932873 All I'm hearing is 'waaahhhhhhh, the lefty was mean to me! Why can't things be like the old days where I could say 'faggot.' Everyone is too sensitive these days but they're sooooo mean! Reeeeeeeee!'
You should be wrapping your lips around my dick for embracing being an asshole.
>>719933083 Why do people keep thinking Trump is the only thing wrong? It's the WHOLE FUCKING SYSTEM that is wrong. It was never one dude, it's not Obawma, it's not Bush, Clinton, Trump. It is the entire fucking structure. We need a revamp, and even the might Trump can't do shit about that.
Send in the Goldman Saches! Which, he... said....... he wouldn't......... do.........
>>719931076 Global warming is the only point I'll concede. I, a moderate centrist who voted Trump (gasp!) believe we need to combat the damage to our atmosphere, soil etc., but with China still, well, Chinaing...Do you think the US cutting down on some fucking Hydrocarbons is gonna do it? Now back up your other two claims, faggot. What corruption? He hasn't even done shit yet. And if you think No Child Left Behind was beneficial...We,ll then, you belong in the selfsame program, comrade! Go ahead. Solve a common core math problem for me and tell me it's intuitive and does a better job showing "One thing and another thing make two things." I'll wait.
No free rides Your all on your own fucktards and fuckfaces nothing really matters like you think it does except your life family and freedom if you think people and politicians are going to make you whole and complete and right all your wrongs you will spend your lives empty and disappointed and used as pawns. Look to your constitution it was written for your freedom and your liberty and rights. He will nut inside us
>>719934451 Look at the photos, look at the time the photos were taken, know that the Obama set was around 1.2 million. See the Trump crowd is about a quarter of the size. Bare minimum, safe to say its not the largest in history. Media does not deserve direct threats for pointing this out.
You're gonna have to be careful with your judgments in the next few years, Trump's ramblings are not gospel.
>>719929953 when you suggest to britons, that their lazy sons get up and get to be dirty plumbers after they throw out all the polish people, they call you a troll. they still want immigration for shite work, but controlled! they call it.
i asked where then the jobs will come if the keep the polish in, they simply change topic. they can't even straight faced explain their arguments. the same goes with Trump supporters. jails filled up will colored people is corporate welfare, guaranteed by willful a government and cops.
oh it will get funny when small towns, having nothing going than a jail and a military base, suddenly have a problem with "deportation" and "closing bases". this will be hilarious.
>>719927071 what would he have to do to get a check from you here? express displeasure at portrayals of him (snl) or demand performers hold their tongues and apologize for criticism (hamilton) perhaps?
>>719935196 Cocksucker, that's because in many countries, there exists industries to blur the damage associated with pollution, and to make its effects appear tamer. Only a fool takes things at face value.
>>719935288 lawyers are already sounding the storm bell because some tricky bastards started curriculum in china and india for american law. now they have hundreds of cheap lawyers sitting around in Shen zen and Dheli, working for pocket change than $300/h.
Trump can try to stop the flood with a toy shovel. He would have to end world trade to win this.
>>719935036 That SOUNDED well measured and thoughtful, but upon trying to glean some kind of context from it, I think Shakespeare said it best: Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
>>719935210 Because, from a business perspective, that's a dumb fucking move. Brand loyalty alone would take a hit for abandoning their homeland. Not to mention trade and import differences. You can't just fucking upend the Google building and wheel it to Japan you moron.
>>719936749 Not if they can convince their customers and partners that the country they left had become so corrupt they had to leave.. Not like they have a lot of competition with the rest of the US. California is the 6th largest GDP in the world. I wish we'd succeed and build a wall from the rest of the US sometimes.
>>719937100 >Then what happened? Dunno yet, the future is hard to tell. Feel bad for all those conservatives and right wingers though. They need better education and better job opportunities. Dying industries should die, but there should be replacements for them.
>>719937124 >2025 >After California succeeded from the Union it built it's highways with diamond roads that recharge their electric vehicles and robots doing minimum wage jobs allowed everyone to live in upper middle class. Crime was wiped out, and their private military was the most advanced the world had ever seen. Everyone hated them.
>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. That is what built the US >2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. This has never happened in the US, and isn't happening right now >3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Not happening in the US. >4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. That is literally how you defend your country, this is nonsense. >5. Rampant sexism. That's the democratic party >6. A controlled mass media. That's the democratic party >7. Obsession with national security. That was Obama. >8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Doesn't describe trump >9. Power of corporations protected. Lifting over regulation isn't protecting corporations >10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Trump is doing empowering the people >11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. Not seen in the US >12. Obsession with crime and punishment. That's the democratic party >13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. That's the democratic party >14. Fraudulent elections. Didn't happen in the US.
>>719937124 This shit about California's economy drives me insane. Yeah. You've got a nice big export market. But if you sincerely believe that California can secede without reprocussion, you learned nothing from the Civil War. I'm from the South. Take it from me. It doesn't go well.
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