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Fourteen defining tenets of Fascism Lawrence Britt Free Inquiry

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Fourteen defining tenets of Fascism
Lawrence Britt
Free Inquiry 23:2
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.

Halfway there already
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Whats Tolstoy got to do with it?
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"Doctor"

Funny how all of these things can be said for socialism or communism as well, even if history ignorant liberals try to deny it.
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>>719918684
Love that song
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1.check!
2.check!
3.check!
4.check!
5.check!
6.not yet, but clearly trying to strong-arm them into submission.
7.check!
8.check!
9.check!
10.check!
11.not there yet
12.check!
13.check!
14.check!

well over half way there.
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>>719918881
http://capecodhistory.us/quotes/Fourteen%20defining%20tenets%20of%20Fascism.html
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>>719918990
Number 11

https://usuncut.com/politics/trump-prepares-eliminate-arts-funding/
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>>719918234

Obama:

1: Anticolonialism... in other words, nationalism against America.
2: Abortion.
3: Christians, conservatives.
4: You are now at war in Syria as well.
5: Pic related. Also, flashing his erection at the press pool.
6: Check.
7: Check.
8: Check.
9: Check. (Fannie Mae, GE, Google, Microsoft, Goldman Sachs)
10: Coal, oil, agriculture.
11: Conservative ones, check.
12: Of thought crimes, speech, and political ideology, and the police.
13: CHECK.
14: ACORN.
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>>719918234
the ones i saw in trump

1. Yup
2. Nope
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Nope
6. That was Hillary's shtick
7. In what way? Trump wants to scale back the Gestapo-like CIA spying on it's own citizens.
8. Nope
9. Don't know
10. Nope
11. Nope
12. Yes
13. Nope; prove it. A filed claim is not enough proof.
14. Nope; that's Hillary's shtick. Bernie should have won the Democrat nomination.
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>>719919385
this is anon is a perfect example of what happens when you get your info from fake news.
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Anyone calling Trump a fascist is proving they're one themselves.
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>>719919385
>benderlaughing.gif
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>>719918234
Hitler wasn't a fascist...National SOCIALIST party
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>disdain and supression of intellectuals and the arts
Implying that the left is intellectual because it's painted that way.
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>>719920036
and Islam calls itself a religion of peace - what's your point?
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>>719920166
Not implying anything about the left at all

https://usuncut.com/politics/trump-prepares-eliminate-arts-funding/
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steals the election, wants to overturn all of the great progress that was made during the past 8 years.

the usa is totally fucked!
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Took control of the Healthcare system and made it worse
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>>719920618
progress? are you autistic?? how could a filthy nigger get anything done in office when his entire race and culture relies on communistic welfare that the white man has to pay for?
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Is that you speaking troll
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>>719921370
Quiet. The grownups are talking.
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>>719919385

WOW you are like, EMBARRASSING levels of retarded.
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>>719918234
>fraudulent elections
YOU LOST HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>719918881
Rarely socialism, definitely communism. Fascist can apply to all.
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>>719920036

"Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

Oh thank God, apparently they're actually a democracy. That was scary, I was SO sure they were an insane. Dystopia dictatorship. thank GOD they call themselves a democratic republic that belongs to their people. That one thing totally overwrites everything else.
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>>719918990
6. They were saying today they're not gonna sit and take the media's coverage. That they're gonna do something about it.
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>>719918234

>Tenets of OP
>1. Faggot
>2. See: Tenet 1
>3. Yep, still a faggot
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The only thing the media has covered ifor s the rookie and the liars failures .
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>>719922398
As hominem, fucktard
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>>719919671
2. Endorsing torture, murdering families of criminals.
5. Grab 'em by the pussy. Female runs campaign, but almost no females in cabinet.
7. All indications he wants to give intelligence agencies more power for counter terrorism. Also talk of walls.
8. See Mike Pence.
9. Wait for the first union bash.
11. See him complain about SNL, celebrities and arts funding.
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>>719920036
All that meant was that they'd use government spending to drop unemployment to zero. They were still far right.
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Why fund and enable cry babies
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>>719922034

That's rich coming from a drooling supporter of Orange Twitler, the King Crybaby himself.
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We must have every color in the rainbow in order for every snowflake to be satisfied.and comfortable
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President orange twitler
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>>719918234

If you can't justify

- importing millions of foreigners who've been a disaster for 4 long generations here and are a disaster in their own homelands and other Western nations

- interfering in the civil war of a nation half way around the world

- letting elites drive down wages of working class through mass immigration

then just cry "fascism". Saves you from having to think about things.
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>>719918881

Yeah, right. I remember the last time those commies were all about securing the power of corporations and obsessing over crime ad punishment.
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>>719918234
>14. Fraudulent elections.
This could arise under any system.
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>>719923941
Import is only temporary. Might even get to keep the skilled ones. That civil war is a breeding ground for terrorists, its in your interest to keep the region stable. You already let your elites drive down wages through legislation, laughable minimum wage and right wing union bashing.
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>>719918234

>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
CHECK - that UN secretary retard. #MAGA.

>2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
CHECK. -- gutting Healthcare.

>3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
CHECK - literally called everyone who doesn't support him his enemy.

>4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
CHECK "We're going to display it"

>5. Rampant sexism.
CHECK.

>6. A controlled mass media.
CHECK. - "You are fake news". "open up libel laws".

>7. Obsession with national security.
CHECK.

>8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
CHECK. (pic)

>9. Power of corporations protected.
CHECK. (too many examples to post)

>10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.

TBD.

>11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.

CHECK - "I love the poorly educated." - termination of NEFTA.

>12. Obsession with crime and punishment.

CHECK. "They should be punished." -- trying to make it acceptable to kill protestors. Also that "support law enforcement bullshit.

>13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.

CHECK - Goldman Sachs cabinet; ExxonMobil SecState.

>14. Fraudulent elections.

MOTHERFUCKING CHECK.
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>>719924224
well it clearly arose in this most recent one, and is how trump is currently president.
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The full list of business leaders endorsing Clinton, some of who had already announced their support, is below:

· Miki Agrawal, Founder and CEO of Thinx

· Dan Akerson, Former Chairman and CEO of General Motors

· Richard Anderson, Executive Chairman, Delta Air Lines, Inc.

· Stewart Bainum Jr., Chairman of Choice Hotels International

· James Bell, Former Interim CEO of Boeing; Former Corporate President and CFO of Boeing

· Marc Benioff, Chairman and CEO of Salesforce

· Nathan Blecharczyk, Co-Founder and CTO of Airbnb

· Jeff Brotman, Co-Founder and Chairman of Costco Wholesale Corporation

· Warren E. Buffett, Chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, Inc.

· Robert Burt, Retired Chairman, CEO FMC Corporation; Former Chairman Business Roundtable

· Ron Busby, President and CEO of the U.S. Black Chambers

· Brook Byers, Partner, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers

· Peter Chernin, CEO, The Chernin Group
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Brian Chesky, Co-Founder and CEO of Airbnb

· Jim Cicconi, Senior Executive Vice President, AT&T Services, Inc.

· David Crane, Former CEO of NRG Energy, Inc.

· Erroll Davis, Retired Chancellor, University System of Georgia

· Barry Diller, Chairman and Senior Executive of IAC and Expedia

· John Doerr, Partner at Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield, and Byers

· Margot Dorfman, President and CEO of U.S. Women's Chamber of Commerce

· Candy Ergen, Co-Founder, DISH Network

· Joe Gebbia, Co-Founder and CPO of Airbnb

· Reed Hastings, Founder and CEO of Netflix

· Reid Hoffman, Partner at Greylock

· Drew Houston, Founder and CEO of Dropbox

· George Hume, President and CEO of Basic American Foods

· Irwin Jacobs, Founding Chairman and CEO Emeritus of Qualcomm

· Paul Jacobs, Executive Chairman, Qualcomm

· Leila Janah, Founder and CEO of Sama and Laxmi

· Earvin “Magic” Johnson, Chairman and CEO, Magic
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Founder of Black Entertainment Television

· Andrea Jung, CEO of Grameen America, and Former CEO of Avon

· Lynn Jurich, CEO and Co-Founder of Sunrun

· David Karp, Founder and CEO of Tumblr

· Ellen Kullman, Former Chair and CEO of DuPont

· Debra Lee, Chairman and CEO of Black Entertainment Television

· Ted Leonsis, Founder and CEO of Monumental Sports & Entertainment

· Aaron Levie, Co-Founder and CEO of Box

· Peter Lowy, CEO of Westfield

· Monica Lozano, Former Chairman and CEO, U.S. Hispanic Media

· Rob Marcus, Former Chairman and CEO Time Warner Cable Inc.

· William L. McComb, CEO (retired) of Liz Claiborne & Fifth and Pacific Companies, Inc.

· Rebecca Minkoff, Founder of Rebecca Minkoff

· Hamid R. Moghadam, Chairman and CEO of Prologis

· James J. Murren, Chairman and CEO, MGM Resorts International and Chairman, MGM Growth Properties

· Charles Phillips, CEO of Infor

· Mark Pincus, Co-Founder of Zynga

· Laura M. Ricketts, Co-Owner, Chicago Cubs

· Gary Rodkin, CEO (retired) of ConAgra Foods

· Sheryl Sandberg, Chief Operating Officer of Facebook

· Eric Schmidt, Executive Chairman of Alphabet

· Jim Sinegal, Co-Founder, Director and former CEO of Costco

· Jeremy Stoppelman, CEO and Co-Founder, Yelp

· Walter Ulloa, Chairman and CEO, Entravision Communications Corporation

· Wendell P. Weeks, Chairman of the Board, CEO and President, Corning Incorporated

· Anne Wojcicki, CEO and Co-Founder, 23andme
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>>719921948
>>719919911
>>719919820
I'm glad to see not all of /b/ is retarded. Thank you, you three.
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>>719925388
Don't get it, is this one of those irrelevant "look! Hillary is evil too!" posts or a post saying the business community was fine with her?

If the former, the difference is she wasn't filling her cabinet with them.
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>>719922034
Kek.
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>>719923941
Yup.
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>>719918234
Fascism is the whole premise of government in the first place. No need to define and compare anything.
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>>719918234
#11 cutting funding to pbs and mpr already
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>>719918234
#8 god god god in speech
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The bitch is corrupt a loser as well as her supporters she never had the opportunity to fill her cabinet with your like minded ilk putz
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>>719918234
It's pretty much all there for a long time. Trump didn't start the fire
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>>719918881
>not knowing what a doctorate is
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>>719925998
Well...she never got the chance to put a cabinet together so who are you to say?
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>>719918990
Mass media has always been controlled
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>>719920318
Right. Because if the guvmint don't pay for no arts, dey won't be no arts.

According to Ms. Streep, Hollywood and foreigners are responsible for all thing artistic. Is she, gulp, wrong?
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>>719918990
Defunding of pbs and mpr already done
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>>719918234
That list has been debunked countless times.
What no one can deny is that fascism is collectivism. And no one can deny that it rejected individualism. And no one can pretend that it was not statism - it was all about everything is the state and nothing outside the state.

I ask anyone with even a shred of intellectual honesty, which American political party more closely sounds like that?

pic related, Mussolini, head of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party
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>>719918234
Dr. Britt is not a doctor, though. Fake news.
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>>719926670
you expect anything more from the sort of guy who mocks this?

the scary bit is that these characteristics have been known for years, and still this happens
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>>719919268
>cutting government funding to the arts
>same as suppression of the arts
you fucking snowflakes are hysterical
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>>719926286
Eh. Modern governments in developed industrial societies usually offer checks, balances, recourse, and some measure of opportunity for the public to influence policy.

Real true fascism is when the state and the monied interest are bound together, inseparable with no recourse or opportunity for the public offered.

I'm only pointing this out because the US for all its troubles continues to be one of the freest countries on the planet. You'd hardly know it because of the tenor of the times and everyone's constant bitching but that's part of the equation too. When that freedom slips away for real, as it did under Mussolini for example, the most staunch Anarchist going today would give their left eye to live in the the US of today.
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Wipe shit on a wall set a flag fire or a trash can and they will call it art
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>>719927049
The scary bit is that it has been proven to be bullshit as has 'Dr' Britt.

You keep on falling for any information that fits the narrative you want though...
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>>719926671
I doubt she would have, plus people would be bitching just as much and concocting more stupid conspiracy theories about her cabinet picks regardless. Completely irrelevant now.
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Not the media or hollywood
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>>719926923
>pic related
It's sound that has to be explained these days, isn't it?
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>>719918881
>all of these things can be said for socialism or communism
well.. let's see:

>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
no.
>2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
no.
>3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
.. this can apply, yes.
>4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
supremacy, no. Avid militarism, yes.
>5. Rampant sexism.
lol no.
>6. A controlled mass media.
if Soviet style communism, yes, otherwise, no.
>7. Obsession with national security.
see 6
>8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
hell no, pun intended.
>9. Power of corporations protected.
no.
>10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
fuck no.
>11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
no way.
>12. Obsession with crime and punishment
not really, no, unless Soviet blah blah etc.
>13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
no.
>14. Fraudulent elections.
if Soviet, no elections at all. If democratic socialism, then it's direct democracy.

.. so all in all; the scoreboard comes back: no match.
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>>719918234
What a fucking joke you are you little whiny bitch.
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I got a match your face and my ass
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>2012+5
>Thinks democracy is the right way to rule a nation when even ancient greek philosophy concluded it as a corrupt form of governing
>"Democracy = everyone rules to their own benefit"
Unless we can learn to rule in everyone's benefit, every other option is shitty and causes suffering.
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>>719922395
>They were saying today they're not gonna sit and take the media's coverage. That they're gonna do something about it.
they're turning into (((them))) real quick.
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>>719926500
But she did so much good!

That Iran deal was a sweetheart!

Oh and they'd have kept ACA! Sure it fucks over most of the middle class but if you are poor--free healthcare! It didn't fix anything really but it sure looked good to people who get help with rent from their parents and deny it while drinking in the lower east side with their lib friends!
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>>719919671
>Trump wants to scale back the Gestapo-like CIA spying on it's own citizens
watch the speech he gave to the CIA, and reconsider.
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>>719926923
Most people realize that a completely free market will have the same problems as communism eventually. You want the private and public sector to have the same push and pull as eachother. People feel like private is starting to have more pull and its throwing off the balance. But when you give the public sector more strength people will always ALWAYS call it communist fascism.
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>>719928238
You can't rule to 'everyone's' benefit. It is an impossibility unless you eliminate most of the people.

One size will never fit all.
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We all no theres are no free markets it's rigget from the bottom to the top get over it snowflakes
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>>719927926
>>all of these things can be said for socialism or communism
>well.. let's see:
>>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
>no.
lol, Mao wasn't nationalist. Castro wasn't nationalist. Derp.
>>2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
>no.
Gulags, forced famines, the hungermurder in the Ukraine, political prisoners, etc., etc.
>>3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
>.. this can apply, yes.
>>4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
>supremacy, no. Avid militarism, yes.
Splitting hairs.
>>5. Rampant sexism.
>lol no.
You must be fucking kidding.
>>6. A controlled mass media.
>if Soviet style communism, yes, otherwise, no.
So free media in China under Mao? In Cuba?
>>7. Obsession with national security.
>see 6
>>8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
>hell no, pun intended.
False. The religion of the state is what socialism is all about.
>>9. Power of corporations protected.
>no.
Unless you think of the party as a monopolistic oligarchical corporation
>>10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
>fuck no.
Ha, labor has ZERO power under communism
>>11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
>no way.
Someone tell Solzhenitsyn and someone else look up the word Samizdat
>>12. Obsession with crime and punishment
>not really, no, unless Soviet blah blah etc.
Because regimes in other communist regimes were chill
>>13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
>no.
Ha ha ha.
>>14. Fraudulent elections.
Or rather none.
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>>719928017
You haven't heard Trump crew's statements about the media today? The republican party is just as responsible for the Iraq war (more so). And it wasn't a journalist that gave Hillary the questions in advance by the way you nitwit. Don't forget Trump openly talking about roughing people up at his speeches and implying Mexicans can't be judging his court cases. Congrats, I'm all triggered now, get in my safe space so i can headbutt you.
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>>719928522
How about compromise and win-win? Why does benefit need to be absolute?
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>>719928238
This is Plato's argument for every totalitarian utopian torture regime ever.
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>>719928461
you say this in a thread where liberals see a small move to the right as fascism?
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>>719926286
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>>719927926
>9. Power of corporations protected.
no.

Corporations didn't become popular until the charter provision was weakened. Nobody wanted to bother with them before that. Afterward they won various other rights and privileges mostly through the courts. They are not so much protected as they are immune and those immunities make them worthwhile for business. If the original charter rules were re established corporations would swiftly fall our of fashion and business would either find or create the next best thing.
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>>719928936
>it wasn't a journalist that gave Hillary the questions in advance by the way you nitwit
Just a CNN employee. Not a journalist like former Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos, or like son of Mario Cuomo and brother of Andrew Cuomo Chris Cuomo, or a serious journalist like Chris 'I worked in several Dem senate offices' Matthews.

2017 and not realizing that the Dem party and journalism are almost entirely overlapping circles.
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>>719929096
I think openly lying to the media and making major threats against them for calling him out should be a massive concern for both sides, much more so than raising taxes or changing zoning laws.
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>>719928972
>Why does benefit need to be absolute?

Finite resources.
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>>719922395
The media has been biased as all fuck, on all sides, for years. Fuck outta here. The news should be reporting news, not agendas. Novel idea, I know.
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>>719926923

Fascism is collectivist in the sense that it cares most about the interests of society as a racial entity . Furthermore, fascists traditionally despise socialism and communism. It's an ideology that favors a mixed economy simply because of the competition aspect. You can see how economic leftist tendencies play out under fascism if you take a look at the Strasser-Crisis. Fascism strives to overcome class conflict by unifying under one racial identity while communism wants to resolve the class conflict itself. The more capitalistic a nation is the more it pushes class conflict to its limits. Then it results in one or the other. While fascism isn't in its very essence capitalistic it's the result of capitalism.
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>>719929358
Mr Obama not only routinely lied to the media, but was caught spying on the AP. Mr Trump's "threats" are what? Saying he won't cooperate with their hatchet jobs?
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>yfw you are white and well off and don't give a shit about any of the lesser classes or races in your country
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>>719929345
Believe it or not, democrats are centrist. Most educated people are centrists. Most people in media are educated and therefore centrists. If you lived outside of America you'd see the republican party has gotten so far right now that they're bordering on extremist.
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>>719929526
Not true, race does not have to be involved in fascism.
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>>719929526
Fascism is collectivist like socialism. Mussolini developed the theory of fascism as a purer articulation of the socialism he had always espoused. Hitler, of course, joined a socialist workers' party and renamed it National Socialism. Fascism is the child of socialism. Of course there was a lot of infighting between fascism and communism. A civil war. But fascism bears no resemblance to small-government, free market conservatism that emphasizes individualism.
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>>719923568
This is why your side lost. When will you mongoloids understand there is no correct political choice? The things that divide the left and right are different stances in gray subjects? Your gray is no whiter than mine. Stop demonizing whole groups of diverse people who don't agree with you, andaybe people will CONSIDWR your reasons for your positions, instead of laying a sheet of paper down with virtue signaling, and then standing on it and claiming to be above the rest of us. It's asininely ignorant.
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>>719929849
I don't believe it. And I don't care how people who get their impression of America from distorted left-wing media outlets see us.
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>>719929849
The TEA party faction *is* extremist, and has been even labeled as domestic terrorists by homeland security.
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>>719929953
Fuck smartphone autocorrect.
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>>719929408
Ironically the bias is a result of market politics more than anything. Sure you get a lot of liberal kids out of journalism school writing the copy etc. but at the upper levels of publishing and editing, those offices are right across from the ad sales people who actually make the money that keeps the business running. So what you end up with is what we have, a lot of slant aimed at demographics because news companies make money by selling their audiences to advertisers. That's something to always never forget.
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>>719929408
They gotta make that cheddar and get on the iinnnnside.

That's why CNN sold their ethics to get Clinton stock while creating a winner in Trump.

Derp.
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>>719928901
>lol, Mao wasn't nationalist. Castro wasn't nationalist. Derp.
Mao was a madman, Castro was confined to an island he could hardly leave.
>Gulags, forced famines, the hungermurder in the Ukraine, political prisoners, etc., etc.
reductio ad Stalinum, opinion discarded.
>Rampant sexism.
>>lol no.
>You must be fucking kidding.
explain yourself.
>So free media in China under Mao? In Cuba?
I wrote Soviet style, China was Soviet style and Cuba was heavily leaning that way. Try Chile under Allende, for starters.
>False. The religion of the state is what socialism is all about.
false dichotomy, strawmanism, discarded.
>Unless you think of the party as a monopolistic oligarchical corporation
well yes, except.. it's not. And that aside, there doesn't even have to be a "party", read up on Marx, maybe?
>Ha, labor has ZERO power under communism
wut is the dictatorship of the proletariat? Fucking educate your sad, bourgeoisie ass.
>Someone tell Solzhenitsyn and someone else look up the word Samizdat
Soviet fallacy again, *yawn*
>Because regimes in other communist regimes were chill
no regimes are "chill", you infinite twit. Name me one regime, that is chill?
>Ha ha ha
not an argument
>Fraudulent elections.
>Or rather none.
wut is democratic socialism durrr?
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>>719918234

The guy who wrote the "Fourteen defining tenets of Fascism", Lawrence Britt, was just some no-name asshole with no background in politics or history. He was just some liberal business school graduate who plucked these out of his ass.
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>>719928936
>implying Mexicans can't be judging his court cases
He never did, he said that about one specific judge, Gonzalo Curiel, who has ties to La Raza. Leftists always do this reductionist bullshit, someone criticizes one woman or minority and they conflate it with a criticism of all women or minorities to manufacture the misogyny and bigotry they believe they're obliged to fight.

And even if Trump had questioned the judgement of all Mexicans--so what? How many hundreds of times a day do the judgements of white judges and juries get questioned due to their perceived racial bias? The left has established that that's a fair part of discourse; they can't get their panties in a twist when their "approved" ethnicities get hit with the same treatment.
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>>719918234
Sounds like FDR
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>>719930174
But call it fake and it is a 'alt-right-crypto-nazi conspiracy!'
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>>719929853
but still, it always is.
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>>719918234
so why did you picture Trump instead of Clinton
OP is faggot.
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>>719929408
A few of them, but NPR, CNN, CBS, and ABC are all pretty centrist when you get right down to it. If you believe otherwise, then you are way off to the right in your own worldview.
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>>719929538
Media reports on inauguration day numbers. There are photos and 250,000 witnesses. Trump says its a lie and threatens the media for saying it. When did Obama directly threaten the media for telling the truth? the problem is not so much the lie as it is the threats.
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>>719929871
>But fascism bears no resemblance to small-government, free market conservatism that emphasizes individualism.
.. except, it functions exactly like the feudal societies that fostered conservatism in the first place. Sovereignty has just passed, from a king to a despot, and in the libertarian utopia it will pass to a CEO.

this, is why we need democratic socialism, as in syndicalism.
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>>719929871

It still heavily emphasis the competition aspect and it does in fact not eliminate private property rights. It's harshly opposed to socialism since the abolishing of private property is the key aspect of far leftist economics. Hitler himself used the cliche bourgeois idea of incentive as an argument against socialism. And again, I didn't say that fascism is capitalistic I merely said that it's a result of the class conflict capitalism produces.

>>719929853

You're right, it just needs an enemy through which the society can define itself. The concept of race usually is used though.
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>>719930338
In this particular country, that tends to be the case. But outside of Germany and America, race usually has little to nothing to do with it.
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>>719930174
Shh, anon, you know expertise and accreditation don't matter when a figure says that shit that the left agrees with. They stand behind a book on anthropology written by an ornithologist (Guns, Germs, and Steel) because it reinforces their belief that race doesn't matter; conversely they'll call Ivy League geneticists unqualified if they say something contrary to that belief.

Same thing here; if you spout something they agree with, you're an authority figure to them, regardless of how unqualified you are.
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>>719919833
Yeah, and whites are the real victims of racism. Fuck off, faggot.
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>>719930615
Chomsky approves of this post
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>>719929953
Global warming, 3/1 corruption, lower education ? i wouldn't call it equal but i guess it is a gray area on somethings just sayin
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>>719931024
The goddamn niggers certainly aren't, not in living memory.
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>>719930195
The point is you're a retarded dipshit if you haven't noticed he's not fond of Mexicans and uses them as a convenient scapegoat for economic problems.
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>>719930788
it did in Italy and Spain, Chile as well under Pinochet, but to a lesser degree in other places, true. The extreme nationalism espoused in fascism, will always lean into ethnocentrism eventually, at least bordering on classical racism. For there to be an "us" in fasicsm, there has to be a "them", and "them" will quickly become (((them))).
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>>719930393
CNN is absolutely not centrist.

NPR amazingly got more so during the election. Which really bucked the trend.

CBS and ABC are pretty close.
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>>719931042
thnx chom8
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>>719918234
And coming from an intolrant lefty shitstain like you, you wouldn't recognise fascism if it you slapped in that spotty face in the mirror, retard.

Now go ahead ahead and throw labels, hate and blanket accusations at me without knowing a fucking thing about me.
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Oh STFU you sore losing communist faggot.
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>>719931302
"Us" could be ideological.
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>>719918234
Not doing original research about fascism and just aping what a liberal douche says
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This is now a communist thread, comrades! Seize the memes of production and take control over the thread!
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>>719929871
There were strong elements of socialism in those systems but those were mostly fan service and safety valve measures. One of the reasons elements of the right went so crazy over Obamacare is that there is a strong traditional thread of conservative thought that basically breaks down to '"free" shit = less freedom'. In other words socially liberal programs are not only costly they have traditionally been used to appease the masses who are getting royally screwed on a deeper, more fundamental level.

There are though plenty of fascist societies that simply never bothered to pass around the goodie tray while the noose was being tightened.

Everything you need to know about true Fascism is more or less imbedded in the name itself. The root word fasci or fascio means bundles. The specifics aren't that important it's the tie that binds that makes Fascism what it is. Groups within groups, groups bound together, a little of both etc. what matters is the tie, the inseparable, unimpeachable, sacred, often times sacrosanct bind. All governments have it to some degree but Fascism flaunts it, is steeped in it, that unassailable thing that binds us all and dare not be challenged.
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>>719931437
He's talking about Trump not you. My assumption about you though; you're thin skinned, like the male version of a tumblrina, you've confused your masculinity with your politics, you lash out because criticisms of your views feel like direct attacks on you as a man now. How often do you say cuck?
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>>719931685
it always is, you know. "us" is a concept, a tool in the art of politics.

we should've moved on from tribalism aeons ago, but we're still played into fearing each other.

divide and conquer.
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>>719931274
Been in office less than a week and already you're politically aware enough to yell mexican and blame in a single sentence without being articulate enough to mention a single act of legislation, a bill, a grasp on reality or your own crybaby attitude that can't back up it's own 'facts'.

What happened to the libtard battlecry of giving everyone a chance? LOL... fucking hypocrite.

No, I don't want fries with that.
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>>719931783
the glory!
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>>719932228
Very true
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>>719918234
>ITT if you're not a conservacuck or altcuck, you're a libtard.

Divide and conqueredfags everywhere.
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>>719918234
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism/Archive_2


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism/Archive_2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism/Archive_2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism/Archive_2
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>>719932288
Don't worry, the cancelling of the FHA fee reduction pissed me off too.
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>>719932317
He was a real hero! He hardly murdered anyone and his body count goes down every year!

Have a t-shirt.
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>>719932519
bu..bu.. but shillary (enter retard comparison here, instead of actual argument).

If I were an elitest, I'd be very pleased with how well the divide and conquer conditioning is going. Make them look left and right, never up.
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>>719932067
Aaaaand here come the insults, intolerance and extremely predictable yelps of another lefty who thinks their land of handouts is about to turn into getting a fucking job.

Blow me, imbecile. You just proved me right in your reply. Have a nice day, kid. Now fuck off.
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>>719932656
>and his body count goes down every year!
wot
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>>719932593
Damn, I though OP was being original with this.
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>>719932817
>If I were an elitest, I'd be very pleased with how well the divide and conquer conditioning is going.
Trust me we are anon
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>>719918234
Things the US government had before Trump:
> 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
> 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
> 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
> 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
> 5. Rampant sexism.
> 6. A controlled mass media.
> 7. Obsession with national security.
> 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
> 9. Power of corporations protected.
> 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
> 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
> 12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
> 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
> 14. Fraudulent elections.
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>>719932656
>He hardly murdered anyone
at least he had the guts to fight and kill in person, unlike the presidents of United Bluff.
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>>719918881
you are so fucking retarded.fascism is a political ideology and communism or socialism is an economical ideology.fascism can exist in capitalism too,it is not bound to an economical system
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>>719932817
>Make them look left and right, never up
you might be onto something here..
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>>719932988
His murderous actions are downplayed more and more every year.

Nice dubs yo
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>>719932873
All I'm hearing is 'waaahhhhhhh, the lefty was mean to me! Why can't things be like the old days where I could say 'faggot.' Everyone is too sensitive these days but they're sooooo mean! Reeeeeeeee!'

You should be wrapping your lips around my dick for embracing being an asshole.
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>>719933083
Why do people keep thinking Trump is the only thing wrong? It's the WHOLE FUCKING SYSTEM that is wrong. It was never one dude, it's not Obawma, it's not Bush, Clinton, Trump. It is the entire fucking structure. We need a revamp, and even the might Trump can't do shit about that.

Send in the Goldman Saches! Which, he... said....... he wouldn't......... do.........
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>>719933233
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>>719933238
Divide and conquer 101.. It's been around since the fucking Romans... if not longer.
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>>719933108
Give it time. I'm sure the press will find someone that says Trump hunted humans in the woods during the 80s.
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>>719933269
>His murderous actions are downplayed more and more every year.
by whom? why? he was a revolutionary general, it can't be that big a secret he got his hands dirty.

.. General Schwartzköpf weren't exactly a saint either.
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>>719933371
except not
economic fascism is corporatism, its planned economy but with private property
dumb fucks
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>>719920036
the far left and far right are very similar, just different means to almost the same ends
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>>719933453
More likely they'll find video footage and Trump will say its lies and threaten to send them to prison for releasing it.
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>>719933453
>Trump hunted humans in the woods during the 80s.

His loyally retarded supporters will still try to justify it. Cancer is an understatement when trying to describe them. Maybe super cancer will suffice.
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>>719933426
.. alongside bread and circus.

yeap, same shit, different asshole.
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>>719928936
>Can't even stick to blaming just the republicans or Trump
Keep crying bitch boi
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>>719931076
Global warming is the only point I'll concede. I, a moderate centrist who voted Trump (gasp!) believe we need to combat the damage to our atmosphere, soil etc., but with China still, well, Chinaing...Do you think the US cutting down on some fucking Hydrocarbons is gonna do it? Now back up your other two claims, faggot. What corruption? He hasn't even done shit yet. And if you think No Child Left Behind was beneficial...We,ll then, you belong in the selfsame program, comrade! Go ahead. Solve a common core math problem for me and tell me it's intuitive and does a better job showing "One thing and another thing make two things." I'll wait.
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>>719933351
>Send in the Goldman Saches! Which, he... said....... he wouldn't......... do.........

This is where he lost my support. HE WAS THE CHOSEN ONE!! KEK HAD HIS FUCKING BACK AND HE BLEW IT

Not like the alternative was any better. But I feel lied to regardless.
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>>719918234
These have nothing to do with fascism, these are the tools of dictators in general, communists, socialist, etc.

>Obama checked most of these too, faggot.
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Global warming lol
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>>719933563
>its planned economy but with private property
oh, so my native Scandinavia is fascist.

how nice.
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>>719929849
>Nafta
>Centrist
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>>719933806
I really fucking hate autocorrect.
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>>719933833
>But I feel lied to regardless.
Get used to it
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No free rides Your all on your own fucktards and fuckfaces nothing really matters like you think it does except your life family and freedom
if you think people and politicians are going to make you whole and complete and right all your wrongs
you will spend your lives empty and disappointed and used as pawns. Look to your constitution it was written for your freedom and your liberty and rights. He will nut inside us
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>>719919820
>>719925906

But this anon is right

Are you unable to think critically about the actions of the nation?

Can you only ad hominem your way out?

Are you really going to defend the previous administrations that checked these same boxes?

Trump or not, the government is the same

It's almost like unelected government officials are appointed to make important decisions while a figurehead absorbs all the backlash.

Shocking, I know.
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>>719933806
China just cancelled 85 new coal plants, switching to renewables. In my country we use China as an excuse to not do anything about CC as well, but they are making big steps.
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>>719918234
fascism is forced social homogeneity, nothing more

your post is anti-white propaganda

shame on you for your racism
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>>719930393
>CNN
>Centrist
>Cuts feed on dissenting viewpoints
>Feeds debate questions to Clinton
>"It's illegal to view wikileaks"
>Being this brainwashed
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>>719933806
The best solution to climate issues is off world colonization.

It's important to take care of our environment but it is more important to remember that Earth doesn't care about us and the more places we are the less chances we'll be decimated by a natural event.
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>>719934097
Talk to me when their water isn't a model of the electromagnetic spectrum color wavelengths.
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I hate europe. Anyone else?
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>>719934097
Trump is a shill for China and Russia. He's going to make us go back to fossil fuel why they succeed in renewables. He's giving them the world and taking it from the US.
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>>719934328
What do you mean?
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>>719930490
>Media reports on numbers, where there is no institution that keeps numbers
>Reputable
I suppose you still think that MI6 agent is a decent "source" right?
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>>719918234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVWupFBkA8
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>>719934395
Where's your hat? Tinfoil supplies unable to keep up with extremist demands?
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>>719934432
He means after they clean up their lakes and shit.
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Why is eorupe so gay?
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>>719934432
Let me dumb that down for you. Talk to me when their water isn't rainbow colored.
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>>719930615
>feudal society
>Where all power is centralized
That's not conservatism.
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>>719934510
No tin foil needed, just watch the tech. Silicon valley will move if needed, and that will be a bad year for murica.
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You all had the chance for this freedom loving man to be pres for 4 to 8 years. But nooooo.
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>>719934659
>Marinefag here
US military get's it's new tech from svalley..... If they go to... fuck this shit
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>>719934386
Europe thinks you're kinda daft, too.
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>>719934659
Yeeeeah. Multibillion dollar American companies are going to uproot to Sweden and Japan. I'm sure this is a reputable and realistic threat which requires contingent thought.
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>>719934583
You're not dumbing it down, I asked because it's an uncalled for statement, because pollution exists in all nations. You're fucking retarded.
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>>719934904
Oh are the Japanese taking over again?

I loved when that happened last time.
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>>719934451
Look at the photos, look at the time the photos were taken, know that the Obama set was around 1.2 million. See the Trump crowd is about a quarter of the size. Bare minimum, safe to say its not the largest in history. Media does not deserve direct threats for pointing this out.

You're gonna have to be careful with your judgments in the next few years, Trump's ramblings are not gospel.
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>>719934623
feudalism is not absolutism, you twit.
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>>719929953
when you suggest to britons, that their lazy sons get up and get to be dirty plumbers after they throw out all the polish people, they call you a troll. they still want immigration for shite work, but controlled! they call it.

i asked where then the jobs will come if the keep the polish in, they simply change topic. they can't even straight faced explain their arguments. the same goes with Trump supporters. jails filled up will colored people is corporate welfare, guaranteed by willful a government and cops.

oh it will get funny when small towns, having nothing going than a jail and a military base, suddenly have a problem with "deportation" and "closing bases". this will be hilarious.
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>>719934904
Or China.. Where they have no debt and trillions to spend on innovation. Probably to a tax haven though, and sell to the largest buyer, which would be baddddd for US
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>>719934809
Europe is full of homo queers So you win butt pirate
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>>719919385

How do people this time remember to breathe and blink?
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>>719934968
American water is not green, purple or red, faggot.
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>>719934904
Why is it impossible that people with huge amounts of money will decide to spend their money to go someplace where they can make more money?
>>
Yeah thanks to the left.
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>>719922076
>>719922034
gtfo pol
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>>719935056
Watch Trump deport some of our best H1B programmers and replace them with hillbilly cucks from the midwest / south. That's going to be fucking hilarious.
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>>719935196
He just got into office a few fucking days ago, give it some time.
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>>719935288
Lol implying shitskins, yellow niggers and spics are good at anything.
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>>719935402
Just making us trillions of dollars annually.
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>>719935027
>Thinking absolutism even applies to feudalism
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>>719927071
what would he have to do to get a check from you here? express displeasure at portrayals of him (snl) or demand performers hold their tongues and apologize for criticism (hamilton) perhaps?
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>>719935196
Cocksucker, that's because in many countries, there exists industries to blur the damage associated with pollution, and to make its effects appear tamer. Only a fool takes things at face value.
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>>719935288
lawyers are already sounding the storm bell because some tricky bastards started curriculum in china and india for american law. now they have hundreds of cheap lawyers sitting around in Shen zen and Dheli, working for pocket change than $300/h.

Trump can try to stop the flood with a toy shovel. He would have to end world trade to win this.
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>>719935479
National economics, let alone global economics is really hard for people like >>719935402 don't imply he could actually comprehend something like the tech industry and how it works.

Some people are just genetically unintelligent. Even education can't save them.
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>>719935755
Strict market regulations. Which triggers republicans and conservatives. Which is part of what I believe swept him to victory. Man I don't get how dumb conservative voters are.
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>>719935864
It's my overly optimistic hope that allows me to think people can be enlightened or change.. But, in all aspects of reality, you're probably right.
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>>719934753
we could've had gore too. america likes the hard road.
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>>719935987
Dumb enough to vote away their health insurance so coastal liberals pay less in taxes.
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>>719936233
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>>719934753
Paul never understood how much of his life and quality of life in Western countries is owed to public works.
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>>719935036
That SOUNDED well measured and thoughtful, but upon trying to glean some kind of context from it, I think Shakespeare said it best: Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
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>>719936307
My tax rate on 140k will go down and my businesses tax rate will go down to 15%.. As a liberal startup founder, Trump was great for me.

The midwest welfare conservacucks will suffer the most from Trump, which is ironic, and hilarious at the same time.

It's almost like Trump is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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>>719935864
Agreed
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>>719936469
>It's almost like Trump is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

nothing "almost" about it
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>>719935718
No, no, you moron. I've been to rivers, lakes, streams and oceans. They come in mostly two veriety: muddy brown or varying blues. Not florescent antifreeze.
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>>719935378
bruh im crying
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>>719935210
Because, from a business perspective, that's a dumb fucking move. Brand loyalty alone would take a hit for abandoning their homeland. Not to mention trade and import differences. You can't just fucking upend the Google building and wheel it to Japan you moron.
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>>719936469
Then what happened?
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>>719936749
Not if they can convince their customers and partners that the country they left had become so corrupt they had to leave.. Not like they have a lot of competition with the rest of the US. California is the 6th largest GDP in the world. I wish we'd succeed and build a wall from the rest of the US sometimes.
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>>719937100
>Then what happened?
Dunno yet, the future is hard to tell. Feel bad for all those conservatives and right wingers though. They need better education and better job opportunities. Dying industries should die, but there should be replacements for them.
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>>719937328
Must be hard right?
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>>719937124
>2025
>After California succeeded from the Union it built it's highways with diamond roads that recharge their electric vehicles and robots doing minimum wage jobs allowed everyone to live in upper middle class. Crime was wiped out, and their private military was the most advanced the world had ever seen. Everyone hated them.
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>1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
That is what built the US
>2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
This has never happened in the US, and isn't happening right now
>3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
Not happening in the US.
>4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
That is literally how you defend your country, this is nonsense.
>5. Rampant sexism.
That's the democratic party
>6. A controlled mass media.
That's the democratic party
>7. Obsession with national security.
That was Obama.
>8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
Doesn't describe trump
>9. Power of corporations protected.
Lifting over regulation isn't protecting corporations
>10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
Trump is doing empowering the people
>11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
Not seen in the US
>12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
That's the democratic party
>13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
That's the democratic party
>14. Fraudulent elections.
Didn't happen in the US.
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>>719937124
This shit about California's economy drives me insane. Yeah. You've got a nice big export market. But if you sincerely believe that California can secede without reprocussion, you learned nothing from the Civil War. I'm from the South. Take it from me. It doesn't go well.
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