A Simple Fix to Feminist issues, liberal issues, and basically all issues involved with the protests currently going on around the USA.
Remove child support payments!! No man should be obligated to pay for any child if he does not want to. No woman should rely on any man to pay her a cheque every month. Why are men required to do this? I believe our society is progressing in a non-monogamous direction. Men and women should have the freedom to fuck who they want. But IT IS STILL AT THE MALE'S EXPENSE!!! A female can trap a male for 18 years of payments. PREJUDICE!! If it's 2017 let's start acting like it's 2017. NO MORE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS!!! FREE MEN, FREE WOMEN!! EQUAL GOVERNMENT, NO MORE POACHING MALE INCOME FOR OUTDATED AND DESTRUCTIVE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS!!!
cucks
>>719892011
lol liberals are lame repubs r kewl
>>719892011
pretty utopia you have there anon
>>719892221
Even worse than cucks. Men who make child support payments are slaves.
>>719892011
You are a foreigner pretending to be American, why?
>>719892011
im a father of two kids and this is perhaps the dumbest thing i've ever read on /b/ . take this bullshit to /pol where it belogs, deadbeat daddy.
>>719892011
Dubs speak the truth
>>719892011
btw nobody spells checks with a q anymore faggot
>>719892806
are you seriously fucking retarded.
God your post gas literally made me angry. I hope you die m8
>>719892709
My political views don't fit there. They don't fit anywhere because I'm the only one smart enough to realize its what's best for society. Think like me faggot. There's no problem with having kids and raising them I never said that. I said child support payments. If a male doesn't want to be involved no female has the right to trap him.
>>719892709
t. single mom playing male
>>719892011
>>tfw; she leaves out the "justice" system
>>719892011
>>719892011
Child support payments are for the child not the mother. I get that may mothers abuse the system but the solution isn't to end child support all together. That would be punishing the mother at the child's expense.
If we're talking about solutions to big problems then the answer is that people need to stop breeding altogether. It's always a bad idea and it never works out. The public needs to understand that having kids is optional. 99% of parents should not be parents.
>>719893749
kek
>>719893257
A father making child support payments is not trapped by the female. He's trapped by the child HE CREATED.
>>719892011
Actually if they made all health insurance cover birth control and abortions then getting rid of child support would be just fine. There would be no more "but the woman is forced to carry the baby!" If the gov offered to grab the wire hanger for her.
>>719893775
No its not. Stop thinking like that.
If the mother is low-income she will get help from government regardless. If she makes good coin she doesn't need any help. STOP RELYING ON MEN! If its an equal society, then make it fucking equal. No woman should rely on a man to pay her a cheque. No man should have to pay her because some bullshit law or that the mother is demanding it. He is nobody's slave. I want equality and freedom for all men and women.
>>719892460
cuck
>>719894170
Again, it's not for the mother it's for the child. The mother isn't relying on the man the child is. At least that's how it's supposed to work.
>>719892750
I see this image a lot. And it's a lie. She continued to work in factories even after the war. That one specific woman was actually a bad ass. Also her name was Naomi Parker. One girl claimed credit for the photo even though it wasn't her. And it's a figurehead like Uncle Sam. Technically the woman in the picture is "Rosie the riveter"
>>719894170
Can confirm. Grew up with single mother on welfare. If Dad payed child support, which he didn't even once, we would have been well off instead of average level poor
>>719894414
No it's not.
Diapers, food, public school, clothes. Mother pays this, government helps if she can't fully cover it. Assuming she is a woman who can manage finances it shouldn't be a challenge. If it were men having to raise the child on their own would they be begging women for a cheque every month?
This is not equality. Too bad the people marching, and the people who voted for republican, democrat, libertarian, etc don't realize this. Society must progress in this direction.
>>719892011
Or you could, ya know, just pull out instead of knocking up every wrinkly slut you pick up at the club.
>>719895061
People will probably say this is fascist or some shit but it's very socialist. The support of the people in need should come from the government not some guy just because the baby is his, right? Decent government aid makes statements like this viable arguments. Maybe not quite as far as you want to take it but I can get behind this cause.
>>719895061
>If it were men having to raise the child on their own would they be begging women for a cheque every month?
Yes. That is the purpose of child support. You create a child you take care of it regardless of gender.
>>719892011
>>719895061
Why do you care, faggot? It's not like you get laid anyway.
>>719895440
Thing is, the government already supports low-income citizens. So if the mother is low-income she will get help regardless.
If she is making decent coin, she doesn't need the help anyways. She is independent and has no right to poach a man for his wage against his will.
>>719892221
fuck off this isn't /pol/
>>719895744
yet again it is not the mom that needs help it is the child that the man 50% created.
I feel like there's a gap in your chain of responsibility. If you create a child you are responsible for that child. It is your mess to take care of.
Your child support solution comes too late. The real problem is people making babies in the first place. Child support wouldn't be an issue if there's no child to begin with.
>>719892011
LOL. Rosie the riveter is based in a woman who worked two weeks and quit to leave and get married. Kek
>>719895367
The issue is the lack of parity in the capacity to decide whether or not to become a parent after the impregnation.
The woman has this, the man does not.
if we took religion out of government, made abortion legal, and provided licenses to breed only to those who have proven themselves fit to parent, only the loved and wanted babies would be born and we would be free of the garbage we live in now
>but muh bible
>but muh "i wanna have kids even though i can't care for or afford them"
>>719895744
I was saying that since decent government aid already exists this is something worth discussing. Not saying there needs to be more aid. That was just an agreement with some reasoning
>>719893257
you really are a piece of shit. its not the womans fault you busted a nut inside a chick. if you create a baby you should have to pay your share of the expenses
>>719896471
That's a lie. That's a woman who claimed to be the inspiration for Rosie the riveter but it was a lie. Naomi Parker, the REAL Rosie, continued working in factories most of her life
>>719896728
Handing power over reproduction to some faceless authority seems like a great idea.
What we really need is not to assist those who make these poor choices. Let the Africans die and let the welfare munchers go hungry
>>719893257
if i knew you lived close to me id come beat the shit out of you and castrate you for this bullshit post
>>719896728
Half agree with this.
Abortion and birth control should be readily accessible as it is in Canada. The only flaw with this is, if the woman wants to keep a child, fine, great, no problem with that. But she doesn't have the damn right to demand something from an innocent male. She has no right to poach him for 18 years. She has no right to steal a part of him 216 months of his life.
Why not let the man decide whether or not there needs to be an abortion?
>>719896601
Which is why more people should be in favor of health insurance covering contraceptives and abortions at little/no cost to the patient. Less unwanted babies born = less men paying child support
>>719895744
I agree with you OP. I pay 600.00/month via wage deducted child support out of my 2000.00/month income for a kid I didn't even know I had. The mother got pregnant and then told another man it was his because she wanted him more. Then when he bailed she had the state open a case against me. Now she's married with another kid on the way and I'm just a paycheck for her. She has two incomes plus mine to live off of while I scrape by on 2/3 of mine.
>>719893775
this guy speaks the truth
>>719896601
correct. the biology isn't fair. the solution is to correct the biology. make it so men can get pregnant too
religion has no place in politics, like Mike pence is kind of the definition of what the Westboro baptist church would shit out on a weekly basis of given the chance, and nobody wants him near the top of the food chain
>>719896965
Nope, sorry. I know that's what you WANT it to be but no.
>>719897019
my nig
>>719896934
>>719897067
I'd rather be a piece of shit than someone who is against equality for all, a racist, a bigot.
If being a piece of shit means not thinking like anyone else then fine.
I'm a fucking pioneer not a piece of shit. Start thinking like me.
>>719897085
because the abortion takes place inside the women's body and a person does not get to decide what happens inside another person's body.
>>719896728
I get the idea for the licenses but letting other people control our reproduction could fuck us over. I like child limiting though. No more than two kids, one to replace each parent. Sorry BillyBob and RoseMarie you gotta kill 10 of your inbred shit stains
>>719894170
you are obviously getting cucked and left you whore and now being forced to pay child support. why dont you just off the mom and the kid so you can live in piece, you tragically selfish piece of garbage
>>719897142
Not when they are purposefully sabotaged, or simply fail.
There are a LOT of women out there looking for their meal ticket, basketball players almost exclusively use prostitutes for that reason.
>>719897304
Oh you're using some of those "alternative facts"
>>719897452
Well that's not her body inside of her body, that's half mine.
>>719895367
more truth
>>719897076
the male isn't innocent if he cums inside her
>>719897452
So you're saying a woman making a conscious decision to keep a child she knows she can't afford to care for should be rewarded even when given an alternative?
>>719897597
Nope, just facts. Drink bleach you liberal faggots.
My post has successfully managed to piss off republicans, democrats, conservatives, and liberals.
And I'm fucking happy because that's what I wanted. All you fucking people don't think progressively. Stop it. No woman should have to rely on a man. No man should have to do something so inherently against his will, it is akin to enslavement. Free People.
>>719892011
here's the solution:
we absolve the man of any financial responsibility for the child if he agrees to be castrated
>>719897824
How about a vasectomy? Same results but less physically debilitating
>>719897770
i'm saying both the man and the woman deserve to be punished for that.
>>719897167
you still made an unplanned child you stupid fuck
>>719897824
They don't even physically castrate child molesters, so good luck with that
>>719897452
You are fully right. 100%. Just as a man has no right to poach a woman and her rights to HER body, no woman has the right to poach a man for what is in HIS bank account.
Fuck what don't you people understand about this.
>>719897596
But with the girl offered a free abortion she has a "get out of baby free" card. Since she wouldn't be forced to raise it the man wouldn't be forced to pay for it. Child support became a thing because abortions were illegal and then still taboo and the woman basically had to keep it
>>719897421
you are fucking delusional, nobody is going to follow you on this. you made a stupid decision, you have to pay your share now. get over it.
>>719898011
Sure, unwittingly. Did you skip over the part where I said I didn't know I had it because she chose not to tell me? She waited until the kid was 5 to even open a case against me. The papers I got served were how I found out that I made it.
>>719898151
Single mother detected
>>719897772
So I see what you're saying but what I'm really getting is "I'm an insecure trumptard who likes to scream 'no' at every fact I don't like" sound about right?
>>719892011
There is a very easy solution to your problem. In some very progressive liberal countries men are legally allowed to forfeit any rights to the child and not have to pay child support as long as they do it before the child is born or some certain age. It gives men the same right that women have, its like a legal abortion for males.
>>719897770
you are passing the blame, the bottom line is that you nutted inside a girl so you fucked up
>>719892011
>cheque
>our society
gtfo of here you foreigner piece of shit.
>>719897931
So men should be punished for a woman's decision. Wow what an equal concept obviously
>>719892011
Lol lets just throw the unwanted children in a lafe of lava
>>719897928
Vasectomies are a good idea in general. Every guy in this thread should get one. I guarantee no one here should ever be a parent.
>>719897928
no, i said exactly what i intended. castration will prove the point that he had no business fucking in the first place if he's too stupid to use a condom or pullout
>>719897931
Following that train of thought men should have the right to make a woman abort
>>719898291
In most states this has to be approved by a judge or have justifiable cause. Basically you have to be dying or unable to work the rest of the child's pre adult life to get child support annulled. Most judges won't let men out of it just to avoid the debt
>>719897076
both parents are responsible, end of story
if you don't want a kid, don't have sex. or at least don't stick your dick in crazy just to get it wet you animal.
jerk off = no problems
>>719898368
women have no choice in having sex or having children. If a woman has sex, or is impregnated then she was raped.
>>719898151
And you are someone who is against equality. Good to know. Thanks for your input, bigot.
>>719898190
IT STILL DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING!!!! YOU. NUTTED. INSIDE. A. FEMALE. THE CHILD IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TOO.
>>719897469
why is child rearing a right?
>>719898501
My unplanned child's mom actually shoveled my cum off her stomach back into her pussy while I was getting a towel to wipe it off....so yeah
>>719897800
stop getting bitches pregnant you idiot
problem solved
>but i wanted to have sex
grow up
>>719898217
ILL POST MY DICK WITH A TIMESTAMP
>>719898680
Because who has the right to impede upon a natural capacity?
>>719892011
I think there are probably feminists who would agree with you on this.
I fail to see how this is a "Simple Fix to Feminist issues, liberal issues, and basically all issues involved with the protested currently going on around the USA".
>>719898252
HAHAHAH YEP
>>719892011
You could always pay $20 to have a crackhead kill her
>>719892011
That's the thing they don't want equality. They want all the benefits and none of the hard work. You never hear feminist talk about having women added to the draft or only things they mention if they want to have the right to walk around topless like men and get paid just as much as men but don't take into account that an employer can ask a man to do a lot more things and they can ask a woman.
>>719898828
GOTTEM LOL
>>719898309
I shouldn't be forced to pay for something that can be gotten rid of. If both parties are given equal opportunity to avoid the mistake the cost of raising the child shouldn't fall on the father alone. Not to mention if the father wants the child, but not the mother, he'll almost never get custody. Even if the father is a more fit parent.
>>719898549
Sure but in other countries you can legally forfeit the child as long as you do so before the child is born or a certain age. You don't have to see the child, pay child support, and you won't be apart of the childs life.
It's essentially the equivalence of a female abortion.
Im saying our Country as a whole should adopt it. in the name of equality.
>>719898084
>man fully aware of his role in sex
>doesnt want responsibility
so you're just like the bitches who think abortion is birth control instead of a potentially life saving medical procedure that should not be abused
>>719898661
So if I buy a car with a loan that's under your name without you knowing and make sure you never get or see the car, does that make it your responsibility to pay it regardless?
>>719898739
A VAGINA ISNT BUILT LIKE THAT jus saying
>>719898883
/thread
>>719898950
Abortion is nigger population control
>>719898606
>equality
>doesn't want men to have responsibility
ok
>>719898309
Then it's the girls fault for having sex. Or my parents fault for keeping me. Or the girls parents fault for keeping her. You can back track blame all you want but if you have an opportunity to fix a problem and you don't, it's your fault. Even if you're the woman.
Posing naked I wonder what major in college covers this ?
>>719898824
Because it will prove nobody is forgotten.
As a result, women would gain the coverage they need for birth control and abortions.
And men would have the protection from ever having to pay for something they don't want a part of.
It's called equality. Everyone is treated with respect and given a full voice on matters that affect them.
The best of these fat disgusting slob that think they're somehow one day going to find the dude with the six pack to accept them for the pigs they are.
>>719898937
STILL PASSING THE BLAME
YOU NUTTED
YOU PAY
WHAT ABOUT THIS ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND?