Need I say more liberals?
>inb4 australia
>inb4 op is a fag
>>719871139
OP is an Australian fag
>>719871139
Gun control works in civilized countries, but America's 'afraid of literally everything' mentality is not compatible with it.
ANOTHER RED VS BLUE SHITTY POLITICAL THREAD
WOOOOO.
>>719871214
in countries without a nigger muslim problem
>>719871139
Need you say more?
You didn't say shit. You just let a poorly drawn political cartoon do the talking for you, you lazy hack piece of shit.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU SUCK
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>719871139
>Need I say more liberals?
US criminals and mass shooters get their guns legally. The 3 biggest mass shootings in US history were with legally obtained weapons. There's no incentive to spending extra money for a gun on the street when gun stores don't even do background checks. Foreign gangs living in countries with strict gun control smuggle weapons from gun runners in the US that were originally bought legally.
>>719872020
list them
>>719872020
There is not one state where it is legal to obtain a gun from a store without a background check
>>719872383
>list them
Typical lazy conservative.
The gay club shooting by Omar Mateen was done with legal weapons and caused 50 deaths and over 53 wounded. The virginia tech shooting was done with legal weapons obtained by that crazy asian guy. The sandy hook shooting is 3rd with 26 deaths and was done by a guy who stole the guns his mom bought legally. She'd be training him how to use them in case the government ever tried to go fascist. Another dipshit conservative.
>>719873022
mfw im not even conservative
mfw Im not even a gun owner
omar was also an armed security guard and had a lot of paper in his name.
then adam lanza did not obtain them legally
>people need to do background checks
I can sense a retard liberal however who doesn't know his shit
>terrorist attack
>calls for gun control
>mass shootings happen in gun free zones
>>719872445
>There is not one state where it is legal to obtain a gun from a store without a background check
That's not true. People walk in and out of gun shows without doing a background check all the fucking time. Some states require gun stores to do background checks only for handguns, some require permits, etc. The end result though is anyone with a history can get his hands on a gun legally easy enough.
>>719873383
every gun show requires background checks you fucktard
typical liberal not knowing his research
when it comes to private party is what liberals keep referring too but lie about
>>719873383
gun show =/= gun shop
>>719873362
>then adam lanza did not obtain them legally
>s- see guys!? criminals will just steal their guns from their moms
The fact is the lady was a prepper nut with an insane son living with her and still got her hands on a weapon.
>Pro-gun activist is accidentally shot by 4-year-old son
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/us/gun-activist-shot-florida/
We don't need background checks, we need to criminalize guns altogether.
>>719871214
Gun rights also work in a civilized country. See Switzerland, America before niggers were freed, and parts of America now where niggers are scarce.
>>719872020
Not sure if b8 or actual liberal cuck who believes these lies.
>>719873897
and thats not her fault adam broke the law
>uses CNN
ahh so accidents happen so time to make them illegal.
>>719873022
You mase the claim, you have to cite the sources. And you lied as usual.
>>719873022
Mateen was on 2 government watchlists when he bought them. The background checks (government) failed; not the 2nd Amendment.
Lanza killed his mom and stole the guns. How is that even close to legally obtaining them?
The VA tech shooter shouldn't have been able to get the gins, it was a breakdown with an online pirchase whoch is the store's fault
Fucking idiot
>>719873776
>every gun show requires background checks you fucktard
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html
No they don't.
>>719873920
>See Switzerland
That's a country of 8 million people and has reasonable living standards. You can't compare it to a country with over 300 million, complete with ghettoes and abysmal living standards in certain areas.
>>719874704
any dealer at a gunshow, regardless of state, require a background check to be performed and a 4473 to be filed
>>719871139
OP's Logic
>>719874704
Also: Everyone who went to the military in Switzerland has a gun. Nobody has any amo for it though.
How is the U.S. government responsible for the Sandy Hook shooting? How is the U.S. supposed to know the mental condition of every member of a family? Europeans have taken upon themselves the past time of shitting on U.S. policies without thinking of the circumstances and must apply their cuck ideology on everyone they know. The only reason for guns is to defend oneself. Now do I think high caliber assault weapons are way too much? Yes! Do I think we should completely annex all guns? No. People wouldn't need to buy guns if there weren't a reason to do so, and the solution to fixing crime is a thing(created by culture and socioeconomics) that can't be fixed with anti gun legislation. Whether you restrict guns or not people will still smuggle them in from other places, essentially the same situation in reverse.
>>719874377
>Mateen was on 2 government watchlists when he bought them. The background checks (government) failed; not the 2nd Amendment.
>Lanza killed his mom and stole the guns. How is that even close to legally obtaining them?
>The VA tech shooter shouldn't have been able to get the gins, it was a breakdown with an online pirchase whoch is the store's fault
>Fucking idiot
>it's everyone's fault except the guns!
>guns are a hobby of peace!
This shit will never end because you guys want to fantasize about fighting an armed conflict with the government or fight off a crowd of criminals or surviving some kind of apocalypse. There's no reason for allowing civilians to own guns.
fewer guns = less gun violence
>>719875456
lmao so one should remain defenseless
Im sensing you are a bernie supporter who says fuck the police and probably is a muslim sympathizer
>>719875609
not a good argument
less people means less crime
>>719875749
>less people means less crime
you just gave the exact same argument, you cocksplat
>>719875609
yup. just look at chicago and new york. crime free since they banned firearms
>>719875822
learn to read you fucknugget....
i said less gun violence....not less crime.
>>719875806
that was the joke.
>>719871139
Need I say more, Rednecks?
>>719875955
fucknugget?
lel
>>719876053
Change to seconds and add blood marks on him.
>>719872286
Now draw Trump getting his balls fondled and a finger in his butt
>>719875955
how that working ?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-more-than-100-people-have-been-shot-in-chicago-so-far-this-year-20160111-story.html
>>719873362
>mass shootings happen in gun free zones
Because Amerifats are retarded enough to think gun controls works if you half-ass it and just place gun-free zones surrounded by gun zones.
Crime: "hehehe no one has a gun nowadays ill be more powerful with this"
Store owner/Anyone that actually has a gun under gun laws: *KAPLOW*
>>719876203
well that's true, but you don't normally pull your gun out when a gun is pointed at you unless you are a super aggressive person to start with.
Average person freezes up
>>719876173
what were they shot with?
>>719875955
>yup. just look at chicago and new york. gun crime free since they banned firearms
there. fixed it just for you
>>719871139
liberal here
I love guns
>>719876307
Under gun control, owning a REAL gun feels really empowering. I guess it doesent have the same impact if guns have been commonplace for so long.
>>719876310
more like.... how many cases of shootings involved black people... and drugs
>>719873920
In Switzerland in order to own a gun you have to fill out massive amounts of paperwork and demonstrate a need to purchase a gun. Also under Swiss law, you need to store the barrel and receiver in separate parts of the house
>>719875116
Yes those are dealers, private sellers dont, at gun shows about half of the tables are private sellers.
>>719876524
if guns are banned, what are people getting shot with?
>>719871139
most illegal guns come from the legal gun market
>>719876142
Here you go, anon.
>>719876587
thats just like private sellers of anything. no one verifies your identity, license to drive, or insurance status when you buy a car private party, and as we have seen, they can be pretty deadly.
>>719876607
Because that will solve the problems we have with gang violence.
Gun violence = gang violence 80% of the time
leftists don't like gun control because niggers would get shot when trying to commit crimes
>>719876793
now put a baby in his hands
>>719876828
that's a nice strawman. :)
>>719876993
you're an idiot aren't you?
guns aren't the problem, every statistic that says it's the problem... is a strawman
>>719871139
see australia, cunt
>>719876988
Sorry anon, that's as far as I can do with MS Paint.
>>719871139
Gun control actually implies the polar opposite of this image.
>>719876793
noice.
>>719877218
can't refute "fewer guns = less gun violence" so you have to resort to ad hominem attacks. you lose. :)
>>719871139
Hey OP, I fixed your image.
>>719872286
Swap out the guy's empty palm with three knife-filled palms. This is what happens when you remove firearms. Violent crime goes up, gun crime goes down.
Would you like more violence overall or some gun violence?
>>719873920
>See Switzerland
Kind of hard to shoot people without ammo. Idiot. That's like saying cars don't pollute by referring to a country with lots of cars, but not gas.
>>719873920
>America before niggers were free
What are you talking about? You assholes were shooting people left and right since you arrived on the continent.
>>719878096
>Would you like more violence overall or some gun violence?
Tell us more about how Omar would have killed more people in that club with a knife instead of a gun. Tell us more about how much higher Dylan and Eric's kill count would be if they had knifes instead.
>>719873897
>Criminalization of firearm ownership does anything but remove the guns from those who would legally use them.
Where there's a will, there's a way to build a firearm from plumbing pipes and dirt.
>We should outlaw anything on four wheels that travels faster than 5 mph and has assault-style d doors
Cars can be and are involved in accidents; you don't need a privately owned car. Just use the public transportation system.
This way anoyone with the capability of doing another person harm is a criminal!
Oh, wait, that's stupid.
WE SHOULDN'T BAN STEALING BECAUSE CRIMINALS WILL STEAL ANYWAY
t. gun-nut logic
>>719875412
I don't even understand what you're trying to say with this.
>>719877694
fixed it for you
>>719878993
>we shouldn't have laws because criminals don't follow them anyway
Clear enough for ya?
>>719879070
See >>719876185 faggot
>>719878306
Omar could have stabbed people on the subway (in some other state) and could have kept doing it for weeks before getting caught.
Omar could have used a bomb, if it were easier to procure than a firearm (which is the implication).
Omar could have made one or imported one piece by piece.
Sounds like you're just upset that he had the freedom of choice to do something negative.
Sounds like you're not prepared for freedom and all of it's products, positive or negative.
I would recommend moving to Europe or China, maybe.
>>719877694
Hear me out here. What if since he's a criminal he stole the gun? What if criminals don't respect the law? What if the thought process of a criminal goes like this, "if I'm going to kill a man using a gun I might as well go the whole 9 yards and obtain the weapon illegally to avoid background checks?"
>>719879178
>Sounds like you're just upset that he had the freedom of choice to do something negative.
>Sounds like you're not prepared for freedom and all of it's products, positive or negative.
>I would recommend moving to Europe or China, maybe.
>>719879263
>What if criminals don't respect the law?
So why should stealing be illegal if criminals are steal anyway?
>What if the thought process of a criminal goes like this, "if I'm going to kill a man using a gun I might as well go the whole 9 yards and obtain the weapon illegally to avoid background checks?"
You underestimate how dangerous this. You can easily wind up dead killed by some gangster just trying for this.
>>719879441
Any real argument for taking firearms away other than 'I don't like firearm crime more than I don't like other crime? '
At this point, I don't like other crime, so we're at an impasse and you're doing the equivalent to changing your voice into a mocking tone because you're at the end of your mental rope.
We done, then? Right, have a nice day, retard.
The arguments of this thread are all weak.
>ban all guns so no crime!
>give everyone a gun so no crime!
The fact of the matter is that where guns are banned crime increases. However even in gun utopias there is still crime. The cause of crime, like murder, robbery and rape is more directlyrelated to the culture of the people in that given area.
>>719879070
>complains about gun free zones
>doesn't realize it doesn't work because you can buy guns everywhere else
if there were only gun free zones, it would work perfectly. it doesn't work when you can just take five steps to the left and buy your own personal artillery.
>>719879160
and that's an great argument for disbanding gun control: let the people govern themselves.
if you don't want to own a gun, fine, but don't fucking try to tell other people how to live their lives.
>your rights ends where my freedom begins
>my freedom is restrained by the consequences
>>719879746
Shhhh, get that logic out of here. We're too busy fighting one another to make any progress.
Nigger.
>>719879602
Go back to Australia libfag
>>719879830
and if there where no gun-free zones, where everybody where armed, few would dare to commit crimes out of fear of being shoot to death at the spot.
>>719879709
>At this point, I don't like other crime, so we're at an impasse and you're doing the equivalent to changing your voice into a mocking tone because you're at the end of your mental rope.
No retard, that image was appropraietly used. You couldn't come up with an argument, so you literally just spout "muh freedumbs!".
I'd tell you to have a nice day, but you probably won't since you'll see another mass shooting this week on the news and call it a falselfag.
>>719879870
Go back to the Kentucky backwoods, Cletus. Your sister's about to give birth to your third child.
>>719879835
>and that's an great argument for disbanding gun control: let the people govern themselves.
>le vigilante justice
Sure thing, Batman.
>>719879746
>>719877390
lol this
>>719880114
>mfw I hate Kentucky
>mfw I'm not even a conservative
>mfw my only sibling is my piece of shit brother
Fucking cuck.
>>719880178
why would you become an vigilante just because you have a gun? does the cape come free when you purchase it? you make no fucking sense
>>719879996
>and if there where no gun-free zones, where everybody where armed, few would dare to commit crimes out of fear of being shoot to death at the spot.
So all those war-torn African countries should be utopias then.
>>719871139
Only manlets under 6'2" are so obsessed with guns.
Mostly because wittwe manwet can't pwotect thwemsewves...:'(
Real men ain't never scared.
>>719880253
>mfw I'm not even a conservative
>Fucking cuck.
>>719880295
>why would you become an vigilante just because you have a gun?
>let the people govern themselves.
>>719880345
Not alt-right either pal, try some original insults once in awhile
>>719880215
Actually I am very pro-gun. But I understand that the issue is far more complex than guns themselves.
>>719879602
>implying that the illegality of a matter is directly relevant to the prevention of crime
The illegality merely allows us to punish behavior, that we as a society deem unfit, in an authoritative manner.
Law is the meta. You can get past the meta and succeed on your own, but the meta will make it difficult.
What we're discussing here is not the effectiveness of law on crime, we're discussing the potential impacts of a law on society as a whole.
If laws actually stopped peoole from doing things, there would be laws against lying in any form at any time.
>>719879996
not true. usa had a gun violence problem way before gun free zones. instead what you get is armed gangs fighting full force. if guns made things peaceful, syria would be a utopia.
guns don't stop crimes, it only means they will shoot your ass instead of just taking your shit. in my country, which is very gun free, robbers just come and ask for your stuff. say no, and they'll just leave and try someone that are more easily scared. if everyone has guns, you just get shit like brazil where some cunts of a scooter drive up to you and shoot you dead, then steal your shit.
i prefer not living in mad max.
>>719878096
The point is that guns make killing lots of people quickly easier
Rob a bank with a knife you get wrestled to the ground and hurt a couple people if that, everyone survives
Rob a bank with a gun you typically end up with a shootout with either you or other people dead, not injured. Dead.
Guns fighting guns is the most retarded thing someone can say for the "pro gun" side of things. With no guns there would be no need for regular civs carrying guns to "protect themselves"
No civs with guns, no kids getting their hands on guns, no school shootings, great reduction in crime overall as it becomes harder to do.
>>719880434
>try some original insults once in awhile
>says the guy using the cuck buzzowrd
>>719871139
OPs can't inb4 you fucking faggot. End your shitty life.
>>719880637
Fuck dude you got me, shit, I didn't see that coming, I should probably just off myself on Google Hangouts now
>>719871139
i dont know where this thread is atm, just saw it as i scrolled, but gun control is complete ass, many european countries encourage gun ownership and knowledge and crime is way down. if it is an advertised fact that EVERYBODY owns a gun, nobody is gonna commit crime, cuz they WILL get shot. it just makes sense
>>719880434
Alt-right, libertarian, conservative, whatever. It's all just different flavors of closet-case nazi faggots.
Fucking white-ass KKK anglo Protestant faggots with your stars and bars are just still butthurt we fucked you up 150 years ago and took your slaves away.
>>719876535
Yeah they really hate their guns there. You sir are a fucktard.
>>719880884
>nobody is gonna commit crime, cuz they WILL get shot.
Right, tell that to all those mass shooters who got shot by police.
>>719880327
6'2" here. Own guns. Go fuck yourself.
>>719880911
Okay but I'm a libertarian and I think the Confederates were fucking retards who deserved the anal reaming they got so I don't really know where you're going with that
>if everyone has guns there will be no gun crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq0G9DPatWw
>>719880296
the only armed people in those countries is either (A) part of an communist militia (B) corrupt cops/military. regular people don't have guns for the same reason government want's gun control:
prevent the people from rising up and take away their power
>>719880375
still not making sense.
>>719880488
what needs to be regulated is who can buy guns or not. people with a mental health issues or an criminal history should not be able to purchase guns legally (you can't prevent illegal commerce).
also, people need to go through proper education to learn safety & technique. being a skoal dipping yokel that listens to kenny chesney is not an qualification.
>>719880522
I would rob a bank with a bomb over a knife. That's pretty retarded. This knife robbing fantasy you have is inherently flawed. With serious gun control, bombs are easier to procure than illegal guns.
>No civs with guns
is an unrealistic impossibility in any country,
unless any criminal cannot be a civilian.
>>719871139
YAY LET'S FIGHT WITH WORDS ON THE INTERNET AND NOT ON THE STREET COS THATS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE GUNS AND IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT THERE SOMEONE MIGHT GET SHOT BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEE SO FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Also, how many pro-gun peole wish they were in Syria right now, shooting mudlsimes and niggers in the face?
I mean, really imagine it; You and your buddies in a pimped out station wagon, armed to the teeth with all the guns you can carry just shooting brown fucks in the face?
Imagine just driving into a village, just shooting every brown fuck in the face there and then afterwards just raping all the girls at gun point. Maybe keep some cute ones to make your waify later.
Doesn't that sound liek a dream come true?
Well why not join Isis?
All the freedom to shoot muslims in the face but without your pesky "US laws" getting in the way.
Isis: Shooting Muslims in the face since, I don't know? 2012? 2013? Who fucking cares? They have their own crazy fucking calendar but you get given a high powered assault rifle, all the muslims you can kill and your pick of the conquered women to fuck afterwards so NONE OF IT MATTERS!!!
Go Isis yay!!!!
>>719881093
Every libertarian I ever met thinks that business owners have the "right to segregate." They're all so obsessed with property rights, that they think freeing the slaves was a violation of their sacred NAP.
I blame Ron Paul for a lot of it, to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEC68vTQwP8
>>719881160
Just because you're not listening doesn't mean it does not make sense.
>>719881160
>what needs to be regulated is who can buy guns or not.
that's what gun control is, you imbecile.
>>719881088
How tall are you without heels on, little manlet trannyfaggot?
>>719881160
>what needs to be regulated is who can buy guns or not. people with a mental health issues or an criminal history should not be able to purchase guns legally (you can't prevent illegal commerce).
>also, people need to go through proper education to learn safety & technique. being a skoal dipping yokel that listens to kenny chesney is not an qualification.
genius! if somebody only had thought of this before! we could call it... GUN CONTROL. good thing we republitards aren't tarded.
>>719876535
not really.
When you finish your armed service period you get to keep the gun
Of course by that point you have proved that you know how to use the damn thing responsibly
A good example of what you are talking about would be sweden where owning firearms is perfectly legal provided you fill out all the neccessary paperwork for the license first
>>719880434
Oh my god the irony
>>719872020
They do background checks in every state for any concealable weapons. Long guns are considered for hunting pretty much exclusively, though some states still background check for them.
In fact, there are states that have mag capacity limits and heavily-restrictive registration hoops to jump through.
Everyone thinks Americans can get a gun at a gas station, but that's only true in shit-tier hick states, where none of us that matter even go.
Now strip the ability to obtain weapobs legally, and yes. The criminals will find illegal weapons. They dont have to yet. If they did, and they felt strongly enough to murder people, they would find a way to obtain illegal firearms, which are VERY easy to obtain from your average group of niggers named Jamal.
Guns are a part of America, for better or for worse. Using other gun-free countries as an example is unfair considering how easy it is for criminals to sell blank saturday night specials here. Introducing gun control at this point is going to disarm the wrong people.
Tl;dr - We've always had guns and its impossible to get rid of them now, no matter the measures taken.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>719881315
Ideally, businesses should have the right to segregate, but it'll hurt their business and they'll go under, which no government programs should save them from. To me, slavery goes against the basic principles of libertarianism, since it literally makes another human being into property and gives them zero liberty.
>>719880028
This is what happens when you remove firearms. Violent crime goes up, gun crime goes down.
This was my original argument and you seem to have misconstrued it into some other fanciful, retarded saying.
Still waiting on your argument in support of the premise that more violent crime but no guns is better than less overall crime.
I know it's hard for you to use your brain, but give it a go, hm?
>>719880743
Please do
>>719881352
gun control is banning upstanding citizens from purchasing, owning & carrying guns in public.
>>719881481
that's why USA got NRA
>>719881262
>Imagine just driving into a village, just shooting every brown fuck in the face there and then afterwards just raping all the girls at gun point
That does sound pretty good actually
>>719881635
Okay, it was already on my to-do list anyway
>>719881617
Enjoy your next two hundred mass shootings, Clem.
>>719880522
the criminals already have guns
you have no control over them, passing laws restricting guns wont change a thing for them
they arent going to give away their guns
fighting guns without guns is the most retarded thing ever, its what get mass shootings and 1 retard killing 50+ faggots that cant do anything about it
passing laws against guns wont make the criminals rob you with a knife, no, they'll still rob you with guns
and they'll rob a LOT more often because they are confident no one can fight back
>>719881584
the 2nd amendment has already been infringed
when written, civilians and gub'ment had the same weapons
now, civilians may only own weapons from a gub'ment approved list. :)
>>719881584
Reminder the Founding Fathers only made the Second Amendment because they were afraid the British would come back and needed civilians as extra soldiers. Nice meme phrase, pawn.
>>719881594
So you're against slavery but you're in favor of segregation? How is banning people from the market based on the color of their skin not a violation of basic liberties?
This is why if you ask me, Libertarians are just Nazis in disguise. They come up with backwards convoluted ways to arrive at the same conclusions--extreme white supremacy and civil rights violations.
>>719881668
>gun control is banning upstanding citizens from purchasing, owning & carrying guns in public.
that's just what republican propaganda wants you to believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control
>>719881668
>implying upstanding citizens would carry guns in public
that's some terrorist shit right there.
>>719881756
There you go deflecting again. It's cute to watch you flop around like a fish out of water.
Take your time and formulate and argument, please. I'll be here until the thread closes in the case that you're done shitposting and you have something useful to say.
Bon chance, faggot.
>>719881913
I don't personally support segregation, no. But if a racist owns a business and wants to only sell to certain people, it should be his right to do so. The business will not succeed with such a policy in place, so it won't even be an issue.
>>719881441
Are you coming on to me?
>>719872286
LOLOLOL like criminals are going to care about the law. You're a fucking idiot.
>>719881854
Nah, it just costs more and you have to do some legally ambiguous activities.
You could own a tank if you were willing to pay the taxes on it, each round, and never drive it on paved roads (without proper tools and permission).
>>719881932
But it is.
That's the end goal of gun control.
You rarely see gun control where normal citizens can easily own guns legally.
Once you have gun control it will only be a matter of time until you have a defacto gun ban.
>>719882023
>Take your time and formulate and argument, please. I'll be here until the thread closes in the case that you're done shitposting and you have something useful to say.
I did before, and you wasted it on dank buzzwords and fallacies, so you don't deserve a proper discussion anymore.
This was fun, but I gotta go now. Be American, get shot.
>>719882050
So why is it some white man's "right" to ban an entire race from the market because of the color of their skin, but you think the "right" to participate in the market doesn't exist?
What if the owner of the NYSE or the NASDAQ just bans niggers tomorrow? That's it. They just can't have mutual funds or 401(k)s anymore, because one white faggot banned them from trading?
Seems like some hardcore racist shit to me you believe down there, Johnny Reb.
No Yankee would believe segregation was a god-given right.
No non-racist would believe it either.
>>719882202
>willing to pay the taxes on it
infringement. :)
>>719872020
According to police most criminals get their guns from theft or borrowing it from their criminal gang.
Some mass shooters buy them but should of been flagged like the aurora shooter, the laws were in place to stop him from getting them but they didn't. That's how effective gun control laws would be we've already seen it in effect.
Maybe we should get like 1 nogun state like an island or something so anti gun people can have a safe space to go live at
>>719882277
are you being this dumb on purpose ?
>>719882329
>Maybe we should get like 1 nogun state like an island or something so anti gun people can have a safe space to go live at
If you like guns so much move to Africa so you can have your gun-nut safe space.
>>719882444
after all the socialists move to cuba, or north korea, or whatever the fuck they defend 1st
>>719882255
In no post within the chain is ther an actual, worded argument. I'll go back and check, just to give you the benefit of the doubt, but damn.
This is the closest thing to an argument so far:
>Tell us more about how Omar would have killed more people in that club with a knife instead of a gun.
>Tell us more about how much higher Dylan and Eric's kill count would be if they had knifes instead.
They would have gotten plenty of kills with timed-bombs placed around the targets.
You seem to think knives are the only other available force multiplier.
Still no real argument.
>>719882444
>If you like guns, go to the most ravaged, war-torn part of the world, middle-east aside
Nah, I'll stick to well-regulated indoor ranges, thanks.
>>719872286
you are a stupid cuck liberal
>>719882136
this
>>719882424
I'd ask you the same thing, Cracker.
It's easy to say you believe segregation is a "right" if you're born wealthy and born white.
>>719882136
they dont care but they can't get a gun.
>>719876053
Except it's not Rednecks that are the ones doing the shootings. In fact, it's you libtard fucks and islamic terrorists.
>>719882328
Or you could claim the rounds are not real.
Let them try to tax my rounds as they pass through the walls of my local municipalities! Muhahaha
>>719871139
That cartoon is completely wrong. Why isn't "crime" a negro?
>>719882688
You sound like a black supremacist who's pretending to be poor despite having access to the Internet and 4chan.
>>719881854
That's not true. Civilians were never allowed to have naval ships or the big guns of the day that went on them. In fact, the Navy was explicitly created separately from the army to be permanent and not a militia.
The WMD of the day were giant ships of the line. And civilians could NOT own them.
>>719882831
Because he didn't want to be accused of being a racist
>>719882688
this is hilarious, I wonder how long you can keep going without realizing how fucked up your "arguments" are xD
I find it funny that literally the only retards banging their head against America's gun control laws are non-Americans and tumblrina liberal faggots. Focus on your own shit. If we die from bullets, let us die from bullets.
For those of you who are American and don't like guns, go to another country. Ours was founded from revolt using firearms, so it was sort of baked into your country's earliest levels of development.
>>719882884
Nah, I'm not even black. But I don't trust you Protestant fucks all the same.
>>719882984
What are you, 12 years old?
xD xD xD
>>719879441
Are your kidding China sounds great!
On the day Sandy hook occurred China actually had a insane man attack a school as well. However only one person was injured and it was a teacher who was stabbed in the arm wrestling the man too the ground because all the fucker had was a knife.
Ah yes, give everyone a gun, that'll make things safer.
Like those notoriously safe war zones.
>>719883077
I wouldn't say I'm a Protestant, just a Christian in general, it seems to me your entire argument is based on wild assumptions.
>inb4 Christfag
>>719883175
Yeah, sounds great when not considering the living conditions of the majority of outlying towns.
>>719871208
/thread
>>719883124
I was tempted to say that if I was 12 maybe I'd be agreeing with you
but its not true, even 12 years old arent dumb enough to believe the shit you are spewing
xD xD xD
>>719875456
Have fun getting fucked by Tyquan and his jungle buddies when the come for your shit, beta lib.
>>719871214
>Gun control works in civilized countries
>translation:
>gun control works when you don't have niggers who shoot people
Listen, moron. If you had a country with 100% white people and everyone owned a gun, it'd still be some of the lowest gun crime rate in the world.
I really don't understand liberals. They have to know that niggers are where all the gun crime is at. Yet they lop all gun owners into the category. Even legal gun owners own guns to defend from niggers. Seriously, a bunch of southern white people with guns are not killing anybody. Zero. Yet niggers going around killing themselves with their illegal guns are.
Either liberals are really stupid, or they know niggers are the problem and hope that gun control gets guns out of their hands. Which it doesn't.
It's an open and shut case. Get it through your thick head. Gun control works the same way as banning drugs. Supply and demand, no matter the law. Niggers will still have them illegally, except now the white man that has them will be considered a criminal.
Liberals. They are that stupid.
>>719883199
switzerland giggles about this post
>>7198719883
China has a huge hitman network in some of the seedier areas. Illegal firearms are commonly used.
We don't hear about it because Chinese reporters probably don't want to report the deaths of every person in the country with the largest impact on the total world population. Or aren't allowed to. Whatever the case.
>>719882234
>the swiss
the swiss don't have ammo.
>But it is.
>uses /pol/ meme
>muh #fakenews
>Once you have gun control it will only be a matter of time until you have a defacto gun ban
a lot of countries have had gun control for a very long time without gun ban. even norway doesn't have a gun ban, but does have gun control.
>>719875822
>Being this RETARDED.
Do you even brain much, you absolutely senseless motherfucker.
>>719882698
are you being retarded on purpose?
you better not be.
>>719871278
It doesn't work for you because you are uncivilized
>>719883531
>Tyquan and his jungle buddies
I really want to form a band now.
>>719883707
confirmed for swiss just pointing their guns and yelling bang
>>719883556
Tell that to Anders Breivik
I am sure that he'll be thrilled to know that he's a nigger
>>719875749
Where in that post is an argument?
It is merely a logical statement.
I swear to fucking god every person on 4chan is on the edge of their seat waiting to have their views challenged at the drop of a hat.
Your lives must suck.
Woe is fucking you.
>>719883926
Yeah it's pretty amazing.
Works in most countries. Won't in America.
>>719884022
It's fucking fascinating.
I want to write a fucking thesis on it.
Jesus fucking Christ.
>>719882277
>>719883902
It amazes me that people like you think single circumstances like this - exceptions to the rule - somehow disprove the rule. It doesn't.
The amount of people Anders killed was beat the same day by niggers in America. Liberals see 36 deaths at one time as somehow more important than 50 spread across a country. I think the fact that 50 niggers went out and killed 50 people is a little bit more of an issue than 1 loony white guy who snapped.
And this is why you're batshit retarded. And that is why you and your future generations will be raised in a volatile world full of niggers and muslims because you wanted to baby them instead of standing up for what's right.
>>719884485
The Norweigan population is smaller than Americas so those he killed caused a massive spike in murders per capita, especially considering how there aren't that many murders carried out in norway, and especially not by terrorists with guns. Or people with guns in general.
Plus he killed 77 people, mainly kids.
But I like the fact that you think he is a nigger. I am sure Anders himself would be tickled by that.
>>719879870
Dude, most of australia (exept for Sydney and Melbourne) want no gun control, even Tasmania was against gun control, and they're the ones who got massacred
>>719884874
>>719883212
It's not wild assumptions. Look at the Public Religion Research Institute. Libertarians in America are by far overwhelmingly white, male, and Protestant and disproportionately Southern.
Part of that is because the KKK did such a good job keeping Catholics out of the South that almost none live there even by the 2010 census.
But the point is, if you're "Christian" and not Orthodox or Catholic or some really weird shit like Coptic, you're a Protestant.
Protestants never liked us.
>>719882277
B8 taken
Because a sandnigger can also ban snowniggers from their shop
Rasist Equality!
>>719876053
/thread
>>719881262
I would defintiely join Isis
>>719871139
Ausfag here. Can confirm gun control doesn't work. Just puts weapons in the hands of criminals and takes it away from law abiding citizens. People here trust Police Officers who have little to no training in firearms only because they wear a uniform.
>>719883556
The problem is that liberals want a feel good solution rather than looking at the hard truth. Violent crime is caused by three things: lack of education, mental illness, and income inequality. Banning guns just means stabbings, beatings, and others forms of murder go up.
Now, the Republicans are equally fucked in that they don't want to fun schools, government job programs (like infrastructure - we spent our way out of the Great Depression and Great Recession), and health care.
>>719885433
>>719885433
That's fucking stupid. Besides which, snowniggers snatched up all the land and built up all the good stores while real niggers were still property being bought and sold for sheckles on the free market.
They didn't even allow blacks to own businesses in the south until 1965. So of course 95% of businesses are white-owned, including all the biggest businesses that would be most damaging to ban people from like the giant chain stores.
Imagine banning all niggers from Walmarts? There'd be entire cities where niggers literally couldn't buy underwear or t-shirts unless somebody let them borrow a credit card to get them off Amazon.
And could I see a crazy Arkansas racist drunk bitch like Alice Walton waiving her majority shareholder wand and making that happen tomorrow if it were legal?
Absolutely. Have you ever heard that uneducated billionaire hick talk?
>>719886341
Not to mention that it would be way worse for America because there is a huge market for illegal guns brought from mexico.
Shut down the drug runners and gangs and violent crime would drop drastically.
I don't believe this is an achievable goal however...