>day one millions of people protest you >yfw no one did that for obama except clearly racist tea-baggers >yfw liberals have gotten everything they've ever wanted through-out history eventually >end slavery: check >let women vote: check >civil rights for blacks: check >let gays marry: check >legalize marijuana: pretty close to a full check
are you content on being on the wrong side of history consistently? trump winning is a tiny victory in a war that you have been losing forever called progress.
give me reasons to support him that aren't racist, homophobic, xenophobic, or completely unaware that mexicans aren't taking peoples jobs in the the midwest.
>>719834170 You simply lost and are trying your hardest to find a loophole. Liberals as a people didn't do shit, important people in power did everything. You, for example, have never done a damn thing worth a mention.
>>719834170 Him and his Whitehouse spokesperson flagrantly lied yesterday about the size of the innaguration. He said media faked the pics of the innaguration showing empty areas. This is the start of a Orwellian 1984 government. It is our obligation to resist and take back our government.
>>719834170 >mfw as a moderate when he see liberals say they ended slavery but forget that Dems made you watch them whip your uncle nay nay back in the day
This is why no one takes you seriously. Do some research first on what you are going to argue about. Even if you lose, it's better to argue with someone who has facts than a faggot who says 'wahhh muh safe space wahhh patriarchy'
>>719835251 i'm actually from the south and realize that. the war was about about money just like any other war. the south wanted to be able to use new orleans as a port and cut out the fat cats in ny. it was to be a congressional measure. so the northern states decided no new states could own slaves, in an effort to keep control of congress. so they could vote down the south. the north's intention wasn't to free slaves because they thought blacks were awesome, it was about money. doesn't make it right that the south was so pro slavery tho.
>>719835547 i live in nyc, make pretty good money doing what i love, am married to an amzing brown women who makes more than i do. i go on /b sometimes because i'm secretly a psychopath. things are fine. i'll be fine. your life will always be shit. cap it.
>>719834170 >>yfw liberals have gotten everything they've ever wanted through-out history eventually >>end slavery: check >Liberals were the ones who wanted to end slavery Refer to pic related
>Liberals were the ones who wanted blacks to vote >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan >The first Klan flourished in the Southern United States in the late 1860s, then died out by the early 1870s. It sought to overthrow the Republican state governments in the South during the Reconstruction Era, especially by using violence against African American leaders.
>>719834170 >wrong side of history Right. Id rather be smashing windows out of starbucks and burning cars because I didnt get my way. Very mature and rational, considering these tactics have been proven to change things for the better. Sure. >inb4 libtards defend pure violence over democracy
>>719836788 >>719836856 >>719836997 lib·er·al ˈlib(ə)rəl/Submit adjective 1. open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values. "they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people" 2. never said democrat you illiterate fucks
>>719834170 >>end slavery: republicans >>Let women vote: Proposed by a republican congressmen and didn't get passed until prepublicans controlled all of congress >civil rights for blacks: republicans >let gays marry: ruling passed down by republican SCOTUS >Legalize pot: Hasn't been done yet. Legal in some blue and some red states
Gee, I guess we have determined that the GOP always gets its way and dems are whiney, racist, sexist bigots.
>>719834170 only really found one thing i'm in support of but here it is.
one of the things he mentioned that he'd do would be to open state borders on health insurances. basically you could get your health insurance from anywhere and not be stuck with the 1 or 2 options available from your state.
short term this would mean actual competition and i could get insurance that i want rather than just whats available.
long term means they'll eventually merge like the cable companies did and we're back to 1 or 2 options per area.
>>719838294 please remember that the bathroom rights thing was actually started by republicans! it was never a problem or anything anyone would even think about, but some GOP retards in the south wanted to grand-stand the fact that they hated gays, and and made it an issue
>>719838641 It literally hasn't. Remember the Carrier jobs he "saved" by promising the company tax breaks? The company took the tax breaks then said they will lay off those employees due to automation.
>>719838948 How do you not read any legitimate news? Do you only read Breitbart? Even the traditional Republican fake news outlet reported it: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.html
>>719834170 It's impossible for us to 'win' because every good thing in history you claim was done by liberals and liberal people, and you will continue to make this claim. If Trump fixed the economy and made Americans less poor, you would claim that it was liberal protests that pressured him into it.
Also, liberals (classical, real ones) believe in basic freedoms, dignity and equality for all. Modern so called liberals believe in limiting free speech and implementing discriminatory practice throughout society in order to prioritize the upper class elite.
The reason Trump got elected is because people saw this happening in Canada and parts of Europe, and were scared of the bleak leftist future that Canada and Sweden are on their way to.
Trump might be all those things, but if it prevents the fall of basic freedoms throughout society, then I'm all for it.
I could make a massive list about what conservatives have done too, but the point is you are confusing radical change with liberalism, and confusing modern liberalism, the type Trump is against, with actual liberalism, the type that made people equal in the eyes of the law.
You would call anyone who does anything good a liberal.
This is why I can't stand our political environment. Two party systems are self defeating. Any good liberal ideas that either side has are just smashed by the hate the other side has for their non-liberal ideas.
Also, is anyone else worried about how many children are attending these protests? My girlfriend'says parents are korean and they think it's terrible. I agree but just laugh because it happens all the time in socialized education. Why do we think these coddled millennials act like jackwagons these days?
No, I'm saying his bombastic promises aren't going to say your obsolete blue collar jobs. At best he can delay things a few years at a huge cost to the economy. You know the tax breaks he promised them cost way more than the few jobs they kept.
Technology and free trade is making low skill blue collar work obsolete. Uneducated workers in the South and Midwest are so out of touch with the modern age they can't adapt.
>>719839319 A few reasons. For starters, I don't think affirmative action and the welfare state can coexist with open borders. I think you have to pick one of the two. Democrats don't let you question any of these things.
I also don't like the institutional double standards in the media, academia, and corporations regarding a lot of things. For instance, professors can tweet support for white genocide and be perfectly okay, but get fired for anything that even slightly offends liberals. Black teens torture a special needs white kid while screaming "fuck white people" and the media immediately jumps to their defense. That kind of thing. Trump pisses these people off, which makes me happy.
I'm also attracted to the nationalist argument. Having unelected officials in this shady global organizations making decisions that people then have no control over doesn't strike me as a good way to do things. I think we should cut all foreign aid and foreign entanglements until we get things figured out here at home.
>>719834170 >end slavery: nope. hilariously, lincoln only freed //southern// slaves, and lincoln was also a republican. nice try.
>marijuana & gays only in degenerate states. won't be long before both get a big push back.
>civil rights for blacks so which is it? are they still oppressed or do they have rights? you faggots can never seem to decide.
>let women vote if you say so, sparky.
The reason there weren't millions protesting Obama is because America has been programming white guilt for the last 30+ years. Any and all criticism of that war criminal was categorically written of as "muh racism."
Also? George Soros wasn't hiring people on craigslist and paying them to protest and set trash bins on fire.
Fuck off with your self-righteous bullshit. Liberals are just as cancerous as republicans, oftentimes more so. Cut your wrists in a bathtub.
What part of his policies are feather bedding? The states have given tax breaks for years for this kind of thing long before Trump came along, and all tarrif do is insure the same work is being done here instead of else ware.
No one said he's going to stop job loss from automation. The whole crux of this was to stop job loss from greedy faggots that decide to move their shit elsewhere.
No one was ever claiming he said he was going to get jobs back that have been lost to automation except you.
>>719839411 I appreciate your reasonable reply. But I think the fear of this "new liberalism" is just pointing at the worst of us. It's the same as us pointing at actual neo-nazis to define your side. All that shit is mostly internet stuff. As a slightly older person it is scary to me that it's starting to spill out into real life now. But what about a liberal society actually scares you? As I said earlier, I live in NY,already in a multicultural society, and I like it. Are you actually scared of foreigners and stuff?
>>719834170 Hahah, all these conservatives who's first answer to anything is "GET EM IN THE HEAD" are being like: "woah guys don't be violent stop being such children" You're fucking pathetic. Listen, peaceful protest has a time and a place, when the establishment is wavering, and when there is a large part of the public with you, then peaceful protest is preferable, but when pure evil and idiocy controls the establishment, the time has come to take up arms, charge their palaces of opulence and gold, and kill them in their monuments to greed and power. Did peaceful protest topple the French nonarchy? No. Did peaceful protest spring the slaves from their shackles? No. Did peaceful protest push Hitler into a bunker and force him to blow his brains out, and make the Japanese surrender to American forces? No. You know what solved all those problems? The people who knew cruelty and madness from peace and prosperity arming themselves and assembling, charging down their rulers, and forcing the will of the people on the elite. I am tired of being run by kings, King Edward of England or Baron Ronald of McDonald, I'm done listening to out of touch rich shitheads. The time has come for blood.
>>719840845 Well next time they should shoot the cops when those pieces of shit try to stop them. Anarchy is the only way to fix corruption, the people with all the power will never allow their power to be taken away, at least not willingly.
>>719840809 >Look up reports from any economist and they tell you the stats show the bulk of blue collar job losses is to technology, not free trade. Yes, and that's fine. But why is it so wrong to save the jobs that are lost to free trade.
>What's needed is to upskill blue collar workers and figure out ways to make them educate their kids instead of imaging college is some liberal brain washing camp. Wrong. We need them to push their kids into trades.
>Putting up barriers to free trade will only harm the US. A trade war means the US will have trouble selling its own output, starting a downward spiral.
No, it won't. We aren't dependent on shit, and we produce food for the whole fucking world. If you think China would win a trade war, then you are out of your mind.
>>719840960 agreed. but it wasn't necessarily because they wanted to keep the black man down because they thought they were inferior. even if they actually did think that. they were thought of as farm equipment. the north weren't trying to free the black man they were trying to take away their farm equipment. everyone back then was racist.
>>719841365 You're both going to destroy this country. That's what you fail to realize. The left utopia is a madhouse super pretty la la land ripe for sheep control. and the right utopia wants essentially the same thing without the sugar coating.
This was clearly demonstrated by how many on the left so blindly fell in line behind Clinton.
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