>>719824469 I don't feel like subsidizing emergency visits for low-agency dindus who can't make an appointment. When America is a white country again then I'll be happy to socialize the medical system.
>>719824627 $130/mo from my employer before ACA, $400 after, and that was for the worst available plan, and it had like a $4000 annual deductible. I will be paying th annual fee as a result for the third (I think) year in a row.
>>719824469 ACA is not about health care it is about health insurance and it gave the insurance companies a captive customer base w/o putting any restrictions on them to prevent the insurance companies fleecing their customers so premiums doubled co-pays increased and catastrophic caps increased
libs are fucking mongoloid-tier retarded. obamacare was drafted with the idea that somehow more people paying into health insurance was going to increase the common pool of resources, and thus create lower premiums for all.
where they fucking failed was not also regulating insurance companies on rate increases. monthly premiums have shot up because now insurance companies are required to cover people with all kinds of fucked up diseases, and because they can't turn these people down, they have to pull in more money from other people paying premiums.
health insurance is a fucking stupid system anyway, we need to either be a no-insurance system, and people can negotiate price directly with healthcare and pharma providers (people will just have HSAs and either save for catastrophic injuries or die on the table/hope the doctor will eat the costs like they were doing before), or we need to go to a single payor system. this half-ass, in-the-middle system is worse than either of the two.
the only thing the ACA has done is give insurance companies a license to print money because now all americans are required to buy it, but insurance companies set whatever premiums they want.
>>719825734 I don't mind lending my lawnmower to my neighbor. I do mind the government coming along, taking my lawnmower, giving it to my neighbor, and letting him keep it. Even though I payed for the lawnmower, and the fee for the government to ship the lawnmower around the block a few times before delivering it to my neighbor, so that the truck driver can earn a little more money.
"Americans" aren't. Just the loud as fuck sheeple that hate Obama because he's black and signed a landmark bill. Mobilized by their conservative puppeteers. Anger = political capital. Make people angry about ObamaCare = votes.
Just spend 5 minutes reading the wikipedia page and realize that this one of the greatest pieces of legislation in recent history for the American people, flaws and all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act
What a shame that the people organized against the ACA are the ones who are going to suffer the most under a Trump administration.
Isn't it hilarious that Ameripoors will happily advocate paying more overall for healthcare through both insurance and taxation than universal healthcare countries do, all while throwing trillions into a bloated and inefficient military?
You pay for the poor to have healthcare regardless, good job letting the kikes brainwash you into acting against your best financial interests, you fucking idiots.
>>719826173 Except it's not like that, free healthcare is more like "you have a lawnmower, it is a community lawnmower, and everyone uses it, and pays for its upkeep" no, Obamacare isn't that, but you fucking twonks were so scared of socialism, that's what you ended up with.
Because niggers like you can't even spell it right, let alone aknowledge the millions of taxpayer dollars that are going to waste so monkeys like you can complain about it. Shut the fuck up you liberal cock-sucking faggot.
fuckface, if patients negotiated price for care directly with healthcare providers, it would drive the cost of healthcare down because either doctors would lower their costs down to what people could pay, or the patients would die and the doctors get $0, which isn't good for either side.
and then, people would pay into HSAs (health savings account, for 17 year old berniebros like yourself who haven't had to deal with this grown-up business yet) so that if they have catastrophic health issue, they could afford to pay for it. however, if they were a nigger like most niggers are and blew all their money on things like cars and 59 hats they leave the tags on, instead of saving for their inevitable gunshot wound, then yes you would kick them to the curb.
in complete honesty, though, hospitals and doctors would probably still do the same shit they've always done, which is to operate on them and not expect a dime in return because they don't want to be the guy that let someone die on the table because they couldn't pay.
also, i would never get fucking kicked to the curb because i work for a living and take care of the shit i need to take care of. liberals are the fucking worst.
>>719826879 Not really, Socialism is lending things to people, or having a community thing that everyone uses, Communism is you have a thing, and it's the govenments thing, but you pay for it and use it.
Some of us are just smart enough to realize that there is no such thing as free Healthcare.
I'd also add that most, if not all, government run programs and agencies are stinking piles of shitty service and customer dissatisfaction. Many of us would prefer not to be saddled with similarly shitty service when it comes to healthcare.
I know, I know... <insert country here> does it and it's superfantasticawesome. My advice to you is this: if you live in <insert country here>, stay there. If you don't, move there.
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