does anyone else really like being submissive?
like not even in a sexual way, I just like being told what to do and pleasing people.
Anyone else like this?
So I'm curious. Does it involve neglecting yourself with the consequence of lack in self-respect. Or, is it rather a role-playing thing or lighthearted thing? I guess what I wanna know is, is it deep down based on fetishising a former abusive relationship: revictimizing to cope with a trauma?
>>719796142
No I completely respect myself, I haven't been abused either, I just like being small and compliant
how isfj of you
>>719796304
I guess I could understand that to some extend, even if I don't consider myself "submissive".
I would say however, that to give up your will to someone relieves you of the anxiety of decision-making and responsibility. If the recipient gives you encouragement, that is a good feeling too.
>>719795418
I do, don't have anyone who wants to be my master tho and i'm too shy to be asking people anyways
No, but I married a girl like that. Best decision I ever made.
>>719797325
Yeah and I imagine you are aware of the likelihood of "wrong" kinds of people leeching of your desire to be "submissive" if you know what I mean, right?
>>719795418
As a recovering sadist, i can tell you that there are a lots submissive people.
That makes it so hard to not slip into my old ways. I have to be very careful when i meet new people or have a relationship of any kind.
>>719797325
Yeah I do, I don't want to be treated badly..
>>719797672
>>719798223
I guess you would apply to my point here, not to say "wrong", but since you say recovering (sadist) I assume it was undesirable. I think there's a power dynamic to everything obviously so I cannot possible say which one is "right" or "wrong"-minded. Think of this: Do submissive people need sadists, and vice versa. Why isn't that win-win. Even if it's about role-playing these roles.
I'm misunderstanding sadism. I think I meant dominant people. dammit
>>719799086
Because sadists/master types can easily be prone to actual real life abuse, and submissive/slave types can easily be prone to being abused and taking it. There's a blurry fucking line between sexual domination and actual domination, the latter of which is real abuse and can damage people and relationships irreparably.
I'm completely submissive sexually, but I hate being ordered around when outside of the bedroom. Not really sure why, but I'm sure I'd make a terrible significant other because of this.
sounds like you were born to be someone's bitch anon
suck my cock :3
>>719799407
that blurry line you speak of is interesting. We could go as far as saying practically the majority of people get off on being dominated say - by the state/government: having a politician (who thinks he can dominate people).
>>719799548
sorry, i dont do feminine penises
>>719799880
thats why i said suck mine, not yours silly
me
>>719799086
In my case, my sadistic tendencies led in to many negative things. As you start to see others either prey, puppets or enemies. It leads to narcissistic behavior and that is very destructive.
>>719795418
I'm on the opposite end. I'm dominant in non sexual was such as just sorta talking differently with a submissive, or helping tie her shoes, ordering for her in a restaurant, or generally making her feel little.
>>719799994
im a girl
>>719800274
we thank you for your service
>>719800274
cute <3
>>719800675
Yeah I guess haha, never really thought about it. I've sorta just always been the dominant type, in and out of the bedroom. Like it's more of a lifestyle choice than anything else I guess.
>>719800226
That is very well put, I see what you're saying. Interesting that you devided people into those groups, that seem very logical but first and foremost - practical to you narcissistic goals so to speak. I guess, someone who doesn't havo those goals wouldn't look at people in that way. Even if, they would realize they're not ouside of it, but only "in it" experiencing it among other people.. struggling to be happy. or something.
>>719800389
oh, nvm then, dont suck it
>>719801180
I would
>>719800274
Welp in case this thread 404s my kik is aleandres if anyone wants to share experiences or just generally talk. Honestly this has been a pretty chill thread.
>>719801315
you wouldn't, its only 5 inches and very desensitized, better find you a big nice cock
>>719795418
tbh Id prefer it if I was a stay at home wife who had a handsome dominant husbando rather than where I am now. i guess thats why im kinda of a trap
>>719795418
>does anyone else really like being submissive?
>like not even in a sexual way, I just like being told what to do and pleasing people.
>Anyone else like this?
Fuck no. Only betas are submissive. Dominant people like me are alphas. Fuck what people think. I'm not there to please people. What type of gay shit is that? Pleasing people smh
>>719801523
But i have always wanted to try sucking someone off
>>719802821
I bet you want to please other alphas all the time. Look at meee, I'm so alpha. and they say in return: yeah, you're OK. I'm just teasing bro
>>719800999
When I was at my worst, I could make those whom had fallen my prey to do almost anything I wanted. They felt loved and important and same time became more and more addicted to me and my influence. When I think how i was back then, and how i saw others, it horrifies me
>>719802821
so then im a beta, i see no problem here
>>719803161
Wow, I can kinda understand the draw people might've had. Kudos to you for understanding the detrimental effects of it and change your priorities.
>>719802863
we would be watching tv then i'd pull my dick out and push your head on it telling you to open wide
>>719803140
If you actually knew me I'd be the type who makes other alphas fear me.
>>719803416
Porn made you this way.
>>719803360
Good that you knew your place beta.
>>719803161
i feel you, at some point the power and superiority feels werent enough (like how you need higher doses of heroin to get high when an addict) and made em cut themselves for me and make em say they enjoyed being raped and allowed it like a whore and watch em cry on camera, its really terrible when you kinda wake up and realize what you did
>>719803477
right.. of course. And also you can dominate others with the best lies in town ;)
>>719803544
well I always knew my place, you were the one who said fuck that. Shouldn't alphas like betas?
>>719803684
Submissive and ignorant. Typical beta.
>>719803763
Alphas like betas? I don't like anyone.
>>719803763
Just my two cents: I think betas creep alphas out. They're looking for approval all the time, and alphas be like: I can't fucking help you, what's your problem? Alphas get the shit done. Betas need it.
PS.I'm not very alpha, but I can imagine :)
>>719804020
i like you though :)
>>719797002
My reasoning right there.
>>719803907
Angry and judgmental. Typical beta asshole. Get a clue :)
I think you guys are missing the distinction between betas and submissives
>>719804444
What a waste of quads fuck off faggot.
>>719804627
this
>>719804548
>Angry and judgmental. Typical beta
Not angry and yet again not a beta. That would be you.
>>719804627
Thanks for clearing that up.
>>719795418
post steam id
I might be omega or delta, I'm ok with people not liking me / finding me attractive unless I really like them
>>719804635
I'm not even lying tho, despite some mean words you seem like a cool person. you're interesting at least
>>719804869
Whatever.
>>719804723
Alright. Fair enough
>>719804947
don't be grumpy, im sorry if i offended you
>>719805034
-_- you didn't offend me. Stop being a submissive little bitch that's what annoys me.
>>719805177
its just who i am though. and im not a whimp or anything i just like making people happy! i dont mean to annoy you
here's what I think
beats: no self confidence, will follow despite reservations, do not enjoy it
submissives: more confidence (although not alpha/dom levels), follow because theyd rather follow than lead, willing to stand up for themselves if necessary
at least this is how I feel
>hoped it was a pretty feminine sub boy
>turns out roastie
you catfished me OP
i'll get back at you one day!
>>719805277
>i just like making people happy!
Why??
>>719805368
how did i cat fish you? im 5'0 100 pounds and im a boy
>>719805387
cause its fun i guess
>>719805473
>5'0
kek, no wonder you're submissive
are you feminine lil nigga?
>>719805527
How is making people happy fun?? I'm the opposite. Making people fear me is fun.
>>719805311
I like that explanation. Submissive+beta would be pretty bad. Only sadist would take them on.
>>719805604
im feminine yeah, but im white
>>719805734
I just do what im told, i really dont want to get into a fight
>>719805734
"Making people fear me is fun" Why?? back at ya
I just want to be a mugi-level submissive
>>719805981
do you have a round thick butt?
>>719806301
yeah its pretty girly
>>719806064
I don't fucking know. I'm also kind of a sadist and blood and gore never really phaze me. Edgy I know but that is just how my mind works. I think I'm polarized since my sense of morality is not the best. Sometimes I'm on a good side then I'm on a bad side. It's complicated.
>>719806035
>i really dont want to get into a fight
Why don't you like fighting?
>>719806035
This whole back and forth between you two is making me cringe.
>>719806395
pics?
>>719806466
Well if its physical I dont wanna get hurt, and if its with words i dont want my feelings to get hurt or hurt someone else's feelings
>>719806431
Logically or the most humanly evolved would be to derive pleasure from making people happy, right? Because you get something out of it. Not only do you get gratification from it, studies show it, but also you get reputation, business: happy costumers, happy kids and so on. Making people fear you has its place, for protecting yourself or others from threats. But to make people fear you in general who are harmless is weird I think.
I have to say, that nothing was more satisfying than turning someone dominant/sadist into submissive. There was feeling of danger and conquest. When finaly someone like that ate from your hand it was terrible sensation of superiority.
>>719806064
I guess it just makes me feel powerful and more dominant.
>>719806663
that sounds awesome but difficult to do
>>719806395
will need proof
>>719806622
:/ not a fighter huh? Your no fun. Fighting is the best. Physically fighting is the very best though. I guess its because I tough and strong guy.
>>719806773
It's a natural trait. Especially for men. But the question would be in what way? It could be repeating trauma or just protecting yourself from something psychologically. Or do you think people are born to certain inclinations and such?
>>719796142
Both
>>719806649
>protecting yourself or others from threats. But to make people fear you in general who are harmless is weird I think.
It's just a sense of superiority and power.
>>719806962
bro im 5'0 100 lbs id lose a physical fight in less than a second
>>719807006
>trauma
This probably.
>>719807205
Then work out? What's keeping you from trying?
>>719807348
i dont wanna, i like the way i am
>>719807476
So then what happens if you're forced into a fight?
eh, this little sissy boy is boring, im out
>>71980755
i beg them not to hurt me i guess
>>719807641
dont go :(
>>719807063
Then I guess the trauma comes first that sometimes overshadow the seemingly normality of win-win dom/sub relationship that is all too common in society and relationships in general. I think, once it becomes the primary addition to the relationship it might point to something significant in past relationship when you were actually submissive, possibly neglected - for real. Do you think a lot of people who are primary submissive are even aware of that possibility? Thx
>>719807758
-_- pathetic
>>719807852
No not both that faggot was pretending to be me. Just trauma maybe. I don't know
>>719807952
Well I always assume that it's different people all the time saying stuff. so no worries. Yeah it's hard to know, and it might not be any clear instance of it, I guess. It might even be a mistake to look for it.
>>719807874
im a sissy, what do you expect??
>>719808212
Trauma or not I think it helps me. It makes me tough and now I can do anything I want.
>>719808348
:/ you're very disappointing.
>>719808550
how can i be better?
>>719808493
sorry im tired. What did you mean that made you tough?
>>719808619
get on your knees and beg for cock
>>719808619
show us pics ;)
>>719808619
Workout. Have some more pride get more angry.
hello submissive isfj here, how is everybody :3
>>719808678
Excessive bullying, emotional, mental and mainly physical abuse everyday for a year until I got kicked out of my school because they couldn't control the bullying. Maybe some other things as well. I can't really remember nor do I really care.
>>719808926
Funny you would say "excessive bullying" as if a normal amount would not be too much. Okay. I think it's a bit simplistic, there's probably more to it. But you don't really care as you say and I'm really tired so.. We prob won't go into it now
>>719807758
Never been in a real fight myself but I think I could talk them down or prey to got I can get my arm around their neck before they knock me out
>>719809364
Excessive as in every single day.
>>719809492
Lmao weakling
>>719809364
Sometimes it helps a faggot assimilate
>>719809645
Frequently lift 120 lb bags of mortar for work, not weak per se, just a pacifist, I don't really get angry
>>719809918
What a waste of muscle. I can pack a single punch that is enough to easily scare someone
>>719809706
Yeah he will learn to stay away from abusive people in the future. And the bully will learn how others stay away from him, right?
Everyone wondering about betas and alphas. People seem to think that alphas like to look down on betas. What real alphas do is inspire others to be alpha themselves. Don't be a pseudo-alpha or alpha wannabe, it shines through :)
>>719810120
Stay away? You think I don't wanna go back to fighting? I haven't fought anyone in 3 years and that was since I got kicked out of that hell hole of a school. I fended for myself and half of time I won and the other times they won just by out numbering me. I'm a giant of a guy so that's why. Pity nobody wants to fight me anymore :(
>>719810375
yea, theres a difference between being an alpha and an asshole
>>719810492
Men need to accept themselves to be alpha and recognize their true power in life. Instead we have feminazi infested schools and politics telling "alpha"-men is bad and that it's equal to asshole. Then the result is that the only ones exercising power is the ones who are already assholes who don't care either way.
>>719810067
Do you get paid to fight?
>>719810120
Well I got bullied a lot but I was a massive faggot. Got popular when I stopped being a faggot
>>719810878
yea thats why I said theres a difference between alpha and asshole
>>719810965
No but I'd love to be paid. That would be even more fun.
>>719811176
You could be an alpha faggot, think of that!
>>719795418
I do it because I have to. My Tarot card of birth was the Hierophant, whats urs?
>>719811385
>>719811176
He's not me retard. I was never a massive faggot. He was and still was.
>>719810067
INTERNET TOUGH GUY
OYY YEE HE'S BACK FROM 2006
>>719811569
I too like persona
>>719811648
Never implied I was
>>719811801
Typical ignorant neck beard back from 2004
>>719811936
Nice edit
>>719811936
>>719812076
4chan sucks I'm out. I'm too old for this.. lol!!
>>719811968
>I can punch real hard
>implying no jobs require muscle
top fucking kek m8
>>719812155
Reddit fag
>>719812155
>mobile shithead
>lol!
kys
>>719812321
gay shithead
>>719795418
>like not even in a sexual way
I just want to be a cock slave to a superior alpha
>>719811235
Well seems like more of a waste to fight then
>>719812403
kys my ass ;)
>>719812476
>waste of muscle
>look at my punch
>not gay
shits too easy
even though this thread is about dominants and submissives, everyone is still a faggot
>>719795418
That's not unusual, especially if one is an phaggot.
>>719812498
How so? At least theres a point.
>>719812403
He's not Me but why should I care?
>>719795418
I feel naturally alpha but I'm an ugly manlet so I fear not being taken seriously so I act submissive instead
>>719812571
>What?
>>719812571
>did you hax me?
>>719812635
And there's no point to making money?
>>719810965
B T F O
>>719812380
Why, yes. of course
>>719812911
I said making money is the point.
>>719812939
Lol typical.
>>719813080
Really explain. I'm listening closely (not too close).
I'm managing the capchas at least so I'm smart enough to use 4chan yay!
>>719812076
What are you even implying I'd try to edit?
>>719795418
yeah it fucks with you doesn't it. Masochism is such a rush for me that it affects me during exam time and stuff like that. I'll do badly on purpose just to feel worthless and for everyone to treat me like I'm stupid. When i'm playing games I'll play comically bad as well just to feel the person I'm playing against grow in complacency and feel better than me. FUCK IT'S SUCH A TURN ON!
>>719813218
WOW u must be really smart haxor!!11
>>719813218
The (you) to pretend to be me
>>719813453
Yes! I'm so proud of myself. I actually feel a bit superior!
>>719813536
WOW ur so kewl
no I react passive aggressively when i'm asked to do something
yass
>>719813513
I don't think so
>>719814514
Den u haxed me
>>719806266
i like the mugster
>>719814683
No, u haxed me
>>719815191
Woah O_o
>>719813918
to further iterate on my point I find myself to primarily look out for myself. I usually don't deal with others bullshit and I don't like to dominate people either.
>>719815238
look at me. look at my face.
>>719803477
>I'm the type makes other alphas fear me
You beg them to suck your dick, Cringe anon?
>>719815591
No I punch the shit out of them faggot
>>719816113
>>719816549
faggot
>>719800979
I tend to "rise to the occasion". I'm happy doing what needs to be done so the other person is happy.
Admittedly I've always wished someone would take the reins and let me follow. I've not met someone that could do it properly yet.
It's ideal and sweet sounding. I'd like to have this kind of relationship some day.
Anyway, have a nice day/evening.
yall mind if im fap to loli?
>>719816752
lmao what a load garbage
Do any of you fap to anything other than loli?
>>719817121
/ss/
>>719817121
yes
Well this thread just died so.....
>>719815384
But would you bob on my dick tho
>>719818410
if you paid me enough or if I was forced to against my will. possibly from your goons.
>>719818907
How much slut?
I mean you've never tried it first time for everything right
>>719819333
prolly 100,000$
>>719820300
Get out of here you're holes aren't worth that much
just do it for me once or a few times nobody has to know
>>719795418
No, I love it too. I try to serve women whenever I can even though I'm not getting off on it.
Sadly, a lot of dominant women lose interest when I make it clear I want to keep it out of the bedroom.
>>719797002
>anxiety of the decision-making
See, that I don't understand at all. Being told what to do makes me WAY more anxious and nervous than making my own decisions.
>>719797672
That's actually the kind of person I like serving best.
>>719820704
>you're
you are holes
This is the kinda shit that breaks the fantasy =∆=
also not the anon you are bartering with.
>>719821300
Honestly, a lot of shit in this thread is fantasy breaking for me.
>>719821300
you're literally begging a man for sex. maybe you should reflect on your life.
>>719820890
Yes, I agree with you. Being told what to do raises my suspicions. But I tried to imagine how it feels for the submissive who likes to do what the dominant tells them to do. Also the anxiety of decision-making I see as a general existential concept: reality is confusing, complex and everything falls on our shoulders to decide with full responsibility - but if someone tells us exactly what to do maybe that relieves us of that anxiety and gives us comfort. However it's probably much more intricate than that, for submissives.
>>719821098
could it be said that you are drawn to the danger and uncertainty of that relationship. That is not impossible to understand for me. Altough, when someone gets nasty as the "wrong" people are inclined, my reaction is automatic withdraw from that person.