The majority of shooting sprees appear to be carried out by people

They won't scare shooters off, the armed people will just kill the shooters.

>>719774549

Because it just does, duh.

>>719774549
"no weapons allowed" wouldn't stop them either you nugget.

At least if the teachers have guns they can stop the situation before fucking 23 kids die

>>719774549
it isn't so much about scaring off shooters
as it is about stopping the shooter before he can get very many shots off

>>719774743

>At least if the teachers have guns they can stop the situation before fucking 23 kids die

Really? How many people are going to get shot accidentally by incompetent teachers?

>>719774830
100000000000000000000

>>719774830

Not 23

>>719774549
those "guns prohibited" signs exclude security staff, you know that right? Or is that a given, and it's simply asking which phrasing is more effective?

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>>719774711

>They won't scare shooters off, the armed people will just kill the shooters.

Where there any teachers you feared or really hated in school?

If yes, imagine that asshole having access to a gun. Would that make your learning experience better?

>>719774549

Guns aren't for scaring people, they're for shooting them you retard.

>>719774830
that's weird
I can see the word "trained" on that sign
I wonder why you can't

>>719774830
>man busts into dark movie theater and opens fire
>20 people in the crowd freak out and pull out their guns
>bullets flying everywhere
>everyone dead

>>719775060
we can't even train teachers to teach, you think we're gonna manage to make them marksmen?

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>>719774549
Becsuse. They're mentally retarded. If there no security with guns they're more liklry to go there BC. They're DUMB AND COWARDS. even though they're dead when backup arrives. Main points are as follows.
Stupid.
Retarded.
Cowards.

>>719774549

if the shooter doesn't care about his own life, why would the sign about the staff being armed make a difference?

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>>719775060

>I can see the word "trained" on that sign

Yea, because you will be able to train a teacher into a part time SWAT-member, tard.
There are many teachers who even suck at teaching and now you want to give them counter-terrism training?

Good luck with that!

>>719775191

teaching is actually hard, shooting guns just requires consistent practice, not talent or complicated interpersonal skills

>>719775317
you act like basic gun use is this impossible to learn thing. what you're saying is that teachers can't learn cpr because being a doctor is hard.

>>719775275

>why would the sign about the staff being armed make a difference?

It wouldn't. That's the whole point.

>>719775390
because teachers have tons of time for consistent practice, being that their jobs are actually hard and require so much prep and focus.

>>719774997
This is inaccurate, the person whom purchased the gun is too white.

>>719775435
you can learn cpr in literally 5 minutes (if you're a slow learner). takes a bit longer to become a trained marksman. I believe "consistent practice" was the term used ITT

>>719775390
Most schools have special teacher thoh? Didn't you know. I had a teacher at school in UK who was in the SAS.

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>>719775435

>you act like basic gun use is this impossible to learn thing

Taking down an active shooter in a crowded building without causing even more harm is a lot more than just being able to operate a firearm.
There is a reason why there are special police units for that.

>>719774549
only in america do people think adding guns to a situation makes it safer

>>719775498

an hour a day or less at a local gun range is all thats required over a period of maybe 6 months to produce a functional shooter

they do not all need to be lee harvey oswalds, they just need to be able to hit a target within probably no more than 15 meters, at the very most

most teachers have time for children of their own, or hobbies, or afterschool activities, and yes, they would indeed have time for firearms training if they desired to carry one at their job

>>719775573
who says they have to be marksmen?

>>719775654
ad hominem aka you have no argument good job

>>719775654
but this is for when those police aren't there. what kind of retard would think the teachers need to be trained to that level?

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>>719775691

>only in america do people think adding guns to a situation makes it safer

Simple solutions for simple people. Whether they work or not.

I'd also say the Trump vote is strong ITT but most here aren't voting age yet.

>>719775706
If you think professional people have an hour a day to spare like its nothing you're delusional beyond belief. We have people whose job consists of handling situations like that, so lets use them.

>>719775742
you're right, let em shoot from the hip. like cpr, they have 5 minutes to learn whatever they can then go out into the world prepared for any challenge.

>>719775895

people like you never get tired of feeling self-righteous and superior lol, and yet still no one cares what you think

addicted to the b8, this one is, and also to the cock

>>719775654
To be honest as los angeles is pretty much 100% gay and liberal, they shouldnt have a say

>>719775544
>whom

WHO purchased. Not whom, you retarded fuck.

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>>719775987

>people like you never get tired of feeling self-righteous and superior lol, and yet still no one cares what you think

You do, otherwise you wouldn't care to reply.

>>719775060
>implying schools that would be shot up have the funding to pay marksmen teachers

>>719775952
Um, you realize there is a difference between being a competent shooter and being a marksman right?

>>719774997
If they save me from a spree killer, yes. What kind of retarded question is that? Your point is that we should just give up on the idea of protecting children(not to mention the teachers themselves) just because a gun in the hands of someone who's trained to carry it might scare the kids?

Your children must be huge cucks just like you lol

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>What if they hit some other students shooting back???

1 or 2 casualties isn't better than an unopposed shooter killing 20+ kids?

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>>719776056

>To be honest as los angeles is pretty much 100% gay and liberal

That is San Francisco, if I am not mistaken.

HelLA is full of violent niggers, spics and plastic people.

>>719775691
yeah they should just call the cops, who also have guns.

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>>719776085
How dare you insult my grammar, sir! Dual me dual me. 1v1

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>>719775691

>>719775935

seeing as i work at a public university and work closely in my job with local high school and other teachers, i can absolutely say that most of these people do indeed have time to spare

whether they would be willing to spend it learning to use a firearm or not is debatable, certainly, but it is not a delusion. teachers value their free time and personal lives as much as anyone, i'll have you know, and it would be more of a personal choice whether to put forth the effort to learn or not

of course, any sensible implication of a "trained and armed" staff scenario would require completion of a certified training regime, and those who did not complete said training regime would undoubtedly not be permitted to carry on campus, but those who might have a desire to learn to shoot would not be unable to do so simply because of their job

>>719776165
>implying those teachers aren't going out in their free time and using their own money to acquire training

>>719776101

flawed assertion much? but it's okay to commit logical fallacies if you're a troll and a retard, so i forgive you kid

I'm leaving this thread BC I'm from UK. My opinion is invalid. I have to keep my gun secret. Haha just kidding guys. But seriously. Does this actually happen a lot in the US?

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>>719774549
neither. school shooters expect to go in and be killed.

just because it's staffed by gun nuts doesn't mean it's any safer. if anything, it's less because some old fuck who wants to reinact the ok corral is in charge of keeping students "safe"

All republicans and conservatives need to be put into camps and processed for orderly disposal.

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>>719776421
>>implying teachers earn enough to buy weapons and ammo much less training

>>719774549
fewer guns = less gun violence :)

i'll sit back and munch on popcorn for the next few minutes. :p

>>719775317
You are just mentally retarded. Have fun with that.

>>719776459

>implying that whole rant made any point at all or that anyone in the world who matters debates whether or not america is a radical country

stop talking to yourself when no one is around, it's not healthy, anon

>>719776566
and you try calling conservatives like nazis and you wonder why they need to keep a gun with them maybe because crazy shit staines like you want to kill them

>>719776678

hope you get shot to death one day, by a thug with an illegally obtained gun :p

>>719774549
>you can always trust 'staff' with guns since their DNA makes it impossible for them to go mad

Every children should come armed to school in case the school gets attacked.

>>719776536
School shootings? No, not really. More than it should, but I can only think of two incidents (sandy hook and columbine) where it was as bad as these threads make it seem.

There have been plenty more where a kid brought a gun to school and only managed to shoot a few people, but those situations will probably keep happening until a huge majority of the guns in this country are destroyed. Which, as just about anyone with a brain could tell you, would be a very, very hard thing to accomplish. The most we could really do is get rid of the legal, registered guns and hope for the best.

>>719776579
>implying they don't
Are you fucking retarded? I could go buy a glock and all the ammo I need for a few hundred bucks. I'm sure I could register it and all that for under a grand

Teachers aren't anywhere close to being that poor

>>719777121
Indeed. Disarmament could happen in our life time. But yes. Unlikely

>>719776907
why would you hope for that?

>>719776809
I don't wonder. They're scum and they need to be eliminated.

Put them in camps. gas them. Put limbaughs, becks, hannities heads on spikes and demonstrate the consequences of their fascism. You guys are always revelling in what wins you can get. And you had a big win. But it will seem much smaller when we get our hands on you. You can look smug and self satisfied all you want. Go the route of martin shereki.

But eventually we're going to hunt you down and kill you. You may have more guns. but we have more people.

And eventually, you're all going to die. Horribly.

Then we'll see who's smug when there's a 300 pound genderfluid anarchodyke sitting on your chest demanding you embrace Sister Steinems teachins or perish.

rolling for sexts

>>719777551
Also

Hdhdhd

>>719777777
Faggot waste

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>>719777777
Fucking wasted

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>>719777777

WASTED GET

>>719777777
He gets quits again! First 8 now 7 I am the king of 4chan!! Bow cunts! Bow!!!

>>719777777
fuck you nigger

>>719777777
Wasted

>>719777777
kill yourself, you faggot

>>719777777
More of a waste than trumps supporters

>>719777777
wasted faggot

>>719777777
What the fuck, how did this fucking faggotry shit get 777777

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>>719777894
Hahahaa Soz. Guys. Suck my 8" dick

>>719777777
Biggest waste of all the wastes

This takes the cake

Kill you are self

>>719777777
2017 has been disappointing so far but you just took it to another level you get wasting major faggot.

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>>719778053
Sorry guys. But you must be quick like teh snaaaaaaaake.

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>>719777777
Fucking retard

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>>719777777
STOP TRACKING DIRT INTO THE HOUSE

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Youre just jelly BC you tried and failed. Not wasted. Taken! From all of you thirsty pricks.. Mmm tastes good. Here have my fav gif.

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>>719778409
Can you imagine if faggots in !music got it? I can't imagine teh pain.

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>>719777777

>>719777485
Maybe it could, but it would have a lot of negative side effects. I'm in the Midwest and we hunt the shit out of deer, but they're still all over the place causing nasty traffic accidents, fucking up crops, etc.

And that's just deer. I can't imagine what would happen down in the south where warthogs are a much bigger problem or Alaska, where needing to defend yourself against a bull moose or a grizzly bear is a very real possibility for many people.

You could use the argument:"well, you use rifles to hunt those things and handguns are the main problem with shootings like these."
But I would just remind you that they used at least one rifle at columbine. Not to mention how easy it is to take a hacksaw to any shotgun or rifle to make it relatively easy to conceal.

I think we should just have police officers or even veterans stationed at schools. I don't like the idea of any Joe Schmo teacher who can get a carry permit being the one in charge of defending a school full of children. I think kids care much less about the fact that there's a guy with a gun at the door than their yuppie parents do

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I can't believe our country is so insane now we can't decide between stricter gun laws and arming public school teachers and training them to fucking kill people

There's a reason this doesn't happen everywhere else, whether gun fags want to admit it or not

>>719776285
Fag

>>719774997
>what is trigger discipline

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Thread. Derailed.

>>719778923
>now
>even though we've always had guns
It's almost like the guns aren't the problem. How strange

>>719774549
None of them.

>>719775191
>>719775317
>>719776165
Samefagging this hard.

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>>719778923

>I can't believe our country is so insane now we can't decide between stricter gun laws and arming public school teachers and training them to fucking kill people
>There's a reason this doesn't happen everywhere else, whether gun fags want to admit it or not

Every now and then a guy like this comes along and reminds us that not all Americans are insane.

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>>719778069
I had no choice....deus vult.

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>>719779591

Totally, dipshit.

An armed society is a civil and polite society. If everyone is armed criminals wouldn't have any victims because their prey has the ability to stop them dead in their tracks. It's a tool to equalize the situation and give the victim power over the aggressor. Most people who own guns don't fantasize about killing people, if we did we would have a more massive homicide rate with guns. Over 300 million guns in the US and the homicide rate with guns is less than .0003 % nationally or 8,124 people (based off 12-31-2014 data). What we can infer from this is that there is less than a fraction of a percent of gun owners that are criminal. We don't have a gun problem in this country, but a criminal problem. Stopping regular people from buying guns only has the guns go on the black market, and only criminals and police will have them. Why not allow regular people to exercise their rights fully to protect themselves or to simply have fun?

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Since so many /k/ appears to be in here, what caliber bullet is this?

>>719779738
Your paint skills are amazing, sir.

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>>719779929
that is a chilling boolet. theyre made to chill whisky. notice the perfect welds at the bottom?

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>>719779929
not a bullet, numbnutz

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>>719777777
you ruined it all cunt

>>719781510
No I ddnt. *hurricane kick*

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>>719781077

I have a better one.

>>719780973
Interesting. Never knew such a thing existed

>>719779313
>implying gun violence hasn't been a constant in American history

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>>719781077
why the fuck does that need to be a gif

>>719774830
Not nearly as many as from the shooter who is there to shoot everyone.l

>>719774997
My learning experience would certainly be better if the teacher prevented somebody from shooting me in the head.

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>>719774549
Both signs are retarded gun free zones are retarded either you have the right to bare arms or not.

>>719775275
The difference is between a shooting gallery full of defenseless victims and facing someone who can return fire and end the threat.

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>>719784285

>Thomas Jefferson

He the one that would have sex with his human property?

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>>719775654
>There is a reason why there are special police units for that.
And when seconds count they're only minutes away.

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>>719784486

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>>719784738

That quote is complete bullshit. Aside from that I have no idea who that guy is.

>>719775317
Schools already do lockdown drills. Literally camp out with a gun pointed at the door. Only faggots try to Rambo someone invading a place when they can just ambush them when they kick the door.

>>719784878
i hope this is a joke other wise your stupidity alone will end humanity

Know many fucking school teachers??? Fuck op I don't know which is more dangerous no guns or giving guns to teachers. Shit OP it's clearly a question to be solved by rolling for dubbs.

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>>719785366
You sssss summoned meeee? What donyoiu wishhhh tonknow, mortal man?

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>>719785546

What he describes has already happened a long time ago.

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>>719785190

>i hope this is a joke other wise your stupidity alone will end humanity

Why because people around the world give a shit about your celebrities, politicians or whatever that fag was?

Like you could tell me who Clausewitz was.

"There is no way of protecting oneself from someone who cares not if he lives or dies, but such men are so rare that a Prince should not concern himself with worrying about it." -N. Macchiavelli

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>>719785926

>are you willing to die attempting to take them?

Bring it fatty!

>>719774830
Or intentionally. High school teachers are fucking desperate people.

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>>719785926

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>>719786160
This permit makes it legal to carry your arms on all US soil.

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>>719786160

That doesn't make any fucking sense. What if the majority of people wants the right to bear arms taken away? Should the government be stopped from implementing the will of the people?

I highly doubt that that nigger owner even said that.

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>>719786478

>This permit makes it legal to carry your arms on all US soil.

Actually it doesn't. Just because you have the right to own something doesn't mean you can bring it wherever you want.

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>>719776987
What are background checks?

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>>719786658
Rights are something you cant take away no sign or o you cant bring that here takes your right to it away. Only you have the choice of for fitting your rights.

>>719786478
nope. the second has already been infringed.

when written, citizens and the us government had the exact same weapons.

now, citizens can only own weapons from a list approved by the us gov't.

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>>719781899
>niggers are humans just like us

>>719777311
Do you have any idea how much debt you are in straight out of college? Teachers make more or less the same as mid level factory jobs, and they have $30,000+ debt hanging over their heads.

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>>719786971
Not really you see sellers of said weapons have decided to not sell them to people unless they have an agreed apon credential any retailer has the right to refuse service.