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Is this even solvable?

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Is this even solvable?
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Which door, my left or my right, would the other bird say is the door to heaven.
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> Kill both birds
> Turn 360 degrees and walk away
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Just pick a door. I've seen Labyrinth heaps of time. It all works out.
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Fuck them birds,
I follow my dog.

All dogs go to heaven.

You're all invited
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/b/ros, I'm talking about the last one of course
Those two easy modes are really easy
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>>719723408
Ask it which door a dog would go through >>719723929
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>>719723783
/thread
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>>719724262
Also ask it how many tails a dog has or some shit idfk
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Well I'd just ask (I could be wrong) "Would you come with me if that door is heaven?"
If the bird says yes, then most likely is heaven. (Because what human or bird in this case, wouldnt?) If it says no, then it's hell.
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>>719723408
first he would have to check em
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I'd send God a text telling him I've got a present for him and I'm waiting outside. Whichever door he comes out of will be Heaven.

Unfortunately, I'll be immediately sent to Hell for lying to God but at least I'd know.
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>>719723408
nigga, i would open a door and if it looked like hell I wouldn't walk through
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>>719723408

God slayer:
Write 2+2=? On each door, ask one bird what the answer on heaven's door is.

BECOME GOD
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>>719725162
i believe winrar is u
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>>719723408
While OP is a fagot ,witch dor i shuld take rigth left ?
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>>719725162
But how do you know which door it is? All you did was find out which bird is a liar but you don't know if the heaven bird is by the heaven door.
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you ask which door would the other one would take and then choose the opposite one.
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>>719725162
That wouldn't work, since both the answers would be 4, instead of choosing the heaven's door, he would answer the hell's door.


Instead write 1+1=2 on 1 door and leave the other one blank. Ask 1 bird "is that equation correct on the door", if it does it correct, then ask the opposite bird which door is heaven and choose the opposite door. If the bird says it is incorrect, go into the door the next bird says.
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>>719723408
Tell them to point to the door on their left
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Ask either bird "Will Jesus Christ forgive me?"
If it answers no, Then it is the lying bird, If yes then it is the truthful bird.
Then take a leap of faith by picking either door.
To go to heaven requires faith.
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>>719723408
you ask the either single bird, "does this door lead to heaven and hell?"

the good bird will answer heaven, since it is good and tells the truth

the bad bird, regardless of its nature, will answer "this door does not lead to heavan and hell." since it will always lie
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>>719723408
>do you want to fuck my boipussy behind the left or right door?
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*point to left door* is this door to the left. Find out truther that says yes and ask which is heaven door
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>>719727047
Don't listen to me I'm retarded
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>>719726108
Ask one question only..do u even read?
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>>719726108
one question to one bird
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>>719723408
It's impossible without conditional/hypohetical because you cannot determine which bird is which and which door is which in one question without a conditional or hypothetical.
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"Which door is the door you deserve to enter when you die?"

Both will point to the heaven door.
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>>719726539
no, the good bird would say "no" (as it does not lesd to both) and the bad bird would day yes
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>Write 2+2=4 @ 1 door
>write 2+2=5 @ the other
>ask bird "does the door to heaven have correct answer?"
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>>719723408
how do the birds answer a full single question?

do they answer it fully or with a simple yes or no
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>>719727641
If 2+2=4 is on the heaven door, the liar says no, the truther says yes.
If 2+2=5 is on the heaven door, the liar says yes, the truther say no.
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>>719726334
we have a winrar
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>>719727497
yea this one makes sense
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>ask any bird "what would your m8 said(which could exist) where dis door leads?(points at any door)"
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>>719727576
While I was alive, I judged whether people would go to heaven or hell, based on whether they lie or not. Which door would I tell you to YOU to go through?
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>>719723783
>>Turn 360 degrees

So a full circle, ending up facing the exact same direction?

Moron.
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>>719727497
that's a hypothetical and forbidden in the rules
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If you can only ask one question to one bird then god slayer mode is not possible.

Just get out on easy mode and rape the birds before you leave and call God a dick when you get to heaven.
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>>719728027
I'm not playing God Slayer, just God Mode at most.
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>>719727641
Doesn't work, this requires you having knowledge of which bird is lying and which one isn't. If you happened to have asked the liar he will simply say that heaven's door does have the correct answer and that would be a lie and you wouldn't know because you didn't know that bird is the liar.

The main problem here is knowing which bird is which.
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>>719727754
won't work, since the inverse is true as well and you' don't know which it is
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>>719728115
my bad
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>>719727937
Lurk moar before you start posting again, newfag.
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>>719723408
Ask it "are you a bird?" If it lies youll know.
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>>719728278
Hurr durr boxxy is queen sage goes in all fields roodypoo oldfag.
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>>719723408
is it one question to one bird only or each bird one question?
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>>719728317
You get to ask ONE question to ONE bird.

>Are you a bird?
"No."

Now what?
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>>719728588
See >>719728317
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>>719728317
gg, you win. Game Over
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>>719728613
Hes a liar and you know the other bird tells the truth.
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>>719728613
You know that bird lied, now go to the opposite door.
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>>719728695
That's not the point of the riddle. Hope you're trolling
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>>719728490
Want some lube for your butthurt?
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>>719727931
format to a yes or no answer and youve got a solution
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>>719728695
The birds are not linked to the doors, your question must also find out which bird is guarding which door.
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Birds are fuckers and id take hell over being in a room with 2 talking birds
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>>719727937
Newfag
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Ask one bird "if I ask the other bird what door leads to heaven, which door will he point me to?" The liar would tell you that the honest one will point to hell and the honest will tell you that the liar would point to hell too. Just pick opposite door, izi pizi
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>>719726334
I'm not even religious, but kudos for that good one.
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>>719726332
>.club
I ain't clicking that shit nigga.
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>>719728695
>How do you figure out which door leads to heaven?
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Do God Slayer mode and take a random door, it's %50 that you'll be right, it could be worse.

>be right and kill all Jews as a new god
>die as the faggot you're and get fucked in the ass everyday for the eternity
Luck chooses.
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>>719727641
V. 2.0
>Write 2+2=4 @ door left
>write 2+2=5 @ door right
>ask bird "does the door to heaven which is in my right have correct answer?"
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>>719728754
Nah i cracked that shit by thinking outside the box
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>>719729087
how does that solve the problem? You still don't know which is which.
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>>719728962
Yup both birds would point to the hell door.
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>>719728278
>>719728927
Do you want some mustard with that bait?
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>>719723408
I assume all my human features are fully in tact for the birds to see. I'll take on the god slayer mode.

Question to bird :
>What color are my eyes?
>If accurate proceed to ask which door to choose
>If inaccurate proceed to take other birds directive of which door leads to heaven
>profit

this was mildly entertaining, thanks OP.
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>>719729307
ONE question ONE bird, dumbass
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>>719728764
No, I'm good.
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>>719728962
This anon already got it.
>"if I ask the other bird what door leads to heaven, which door will he point me to?"
both birds would point to the hell door so all you gotta do is go to the opposite door.
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>>719729293
Literally what?
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>>719729307
reading skills missing (one question you dunce)
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>>719729351
>What color are my eyes?

That is ONE question. Are you done being a retard or is there more?
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Ask one bird how big your dick looks, if itt lies, then you have the truth bird. If it lies, than ask the bird what door and go to opposite.
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>>719728962
This.

Alternatively you could ask a bird which door they deserve to go through.

Good truth bird deserves heaven and says heaven door.

Bad lying bird deserves hell but says heaven.
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>>719729406
Okay, you're baiting.
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>>719729400
I asked one question to one bird. Based on the response I got I'd take the directive (do you not know what that word means?) of the other bird. At no time did I propose a second question to the other bird.

Fucking idiots ... if bait well ... fuck. You got me.
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>>719729307
One question to one bird.
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>>719729390
This >>719727937 was obvious bait and those two guys ate it like babies
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>>719728962
Congrats on beating easy mode
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>>719729448
>one question

Someone call the the tard wrangler, one is loose.
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>>719729463
Winrar
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>>719729235

U will know if the bird is lying or not. Then based on it compare it if next answer if the door have correct answer or not. Assuming the bird will correct me or mislead me about which door i pointed at
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>>719727497
>"Which door is the door you deserve to enter when you die?"
I assume we are in the after life already, the birds are already dead.
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how is this still being alive. easy and godmode are trivial with any munber of conditionals, godslayer is impossible because you cannot solve for two unknowns in one operation without a conditional.
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>>719723408

I pick a random bird and ask him "Where are you going to go when you die?"

The good bird will point to the door leading to heaven because he's good and will end up in heaven.

The bad bird will know that he's going to Hell, but he's going to LIE and point to the door that leads to heaven.

So, they're going to both point to the same door: The one that leads to heaven.

That's God Slayer mode, bitches. Gimme my throne.
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>>719729686
ONE question in total.
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>>719729784
Fixed
>>719729463
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>>719729538
Wouldn't the original post that started this chain of comments be obviously bait? And the post you referenced be someone taking the bait? And then the subsequent posts be making fun of the guy taking the bait? Obviously, it is obvious.
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>>719729823
hypothetical so no.
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>>719729900

That's not a hypothetical. The birds ARE going to die.
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>>719729932
Not nessasaraly
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>>719723408
Which door do I deserve to go through?
you will know in your mind where you deserve to go.
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>>719723408

You ask either bird "what would the other bird tell me if I asked it which door lead to heaven"

Both birds will tell you the door that is the Hell door
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>>719730003

Since the conditions don't mention that the birds are in any way immortal, then we have to go with the assumption that they're not immortal birds.

I beat God Slayer Mode. Get over it.
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>>719723408
>God Slayer Mode
Ask one of the birds "Which door is good, like you?"
Saying that to the good bird would have him point to the heaven door, and the bad bird would lie and also point to the heaven door.

Is that question acceptable?
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>>719729823
The problem with that is that only one bird will respond, not both.
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>>719729932
Just because it's a temporal conditional and not a causal one doesn't make it any less hypothetical, hence the WHEN.
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>>719729853
That was one question but with two answer
no rule about two answer
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I threaten both birds saying if they don't tell me which door goes to heaven, I read the full unedited scripts of every twilight movie AND 50 Shades of Grey (both the book and the movie version)

Banking on the chance that they know hearing that shit is poison for anyone, and they'll say fuck it, tell me which door is the right one, and pick it
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>>719730117

I don't need both to answer. They'd both point to the same door for different reasons. So, it doesn't matter which one I ask.
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>>719730089
What if the truth bird is humle? He thinks he belongs in hell and therefore says the hell door.

The birds are not all knowing, so there is no indication that they KNOW if they belong in heaven or hell
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>>719730092
my bad not "good, like you" just "Which door is like you?"
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>>719728317

no idiot, because you've used your question and all you've determined is which bird is the liar and which one is good. you now have to guess between the doors
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>>719730118

Death isn't a conditional possibility. It's a reality. The birds will eventually die since the original statement didn't label them as immortal birds.

The reality of their deaths isn't a hypothetical. It's going to happen. That makes it a non-hypothetical question.
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>>719727937
Yeah. I was already facing the right way my man. Future planning.
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>>719727937
jesus how new are you fag?
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>>719723408
"What door would the other bird say is the door to heaven?"

Go in the opposite door
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>>719730225

The good bird ALWAYS tells the truth. That's made abundantly clear. He may not FEEL that he deserves heaven, but he ALWAYS tells the truth.

So, he'd have to point at the door leading to heaven.

I win.
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>>719729878
Thing is, it wasn't bait. I've been here for fucking years and have never seen any 360 degree thing on /b/
So nobody is taking bait.

Go figure.
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>>719730287
I don't think you understand what a conditional is. There are actually different types differing by how likely the condition is to be true. The conditional in yours is of a temporal nature.
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>>719730349
>bird doesn't know if he belongs in heaven or hell
>can only answer based on what he feels

telling the truth does not inherently mean you go to heaven, retard. You can confess to murdering 100 infants in cold blood and die an honest man.

The birds don't know the answer, truth bird would actually answer with "I don't know" and liar bird would randomly assert a door, which you have no idea is correct or not.
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>>719723408
Can't you just ask "Which door are you guarding?"?
Does that work for God Slayer Mode?
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>>719730517

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how much of a whiny faggot you're being right now.
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>>719730535

I'm sorry, can't you over how fucking retarded you are.
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Serious answer here. Ask "What door will the other bird say is leading to heaven"
By saying this to one of the birds (doesn't matter which bird) will result in they saying that the right (or left) door is leading to heaven. If it so happens that the birds says that the right door leads to heaven, simply pick the left. And vice versa.
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>>719723408
You ask both birds if their door goes to a blank nothingness. Given the fact you know it will either be heaven or hell, you know there are only those 2 outcomes. The lying bird would say "yes this door leads to blank nothingness" and the truth bird would say "no it does not lead to blank nothingness". Also passes the god slayer mode because not an "if" statement and not asking hypotheticals, simply asking if it does or does not lead to blank nothingness.
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>>719730669
Good job. You beat easy mode.
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grab one of the brids and snap its wing, breaking it, then ask it "Did i just break your wing? Only answer 'yes' by standing next to the door to heaven, answer 'no' by standing next to the door to heaven"

The bird will have to stand next to the door to heaven. If the bird is the truth teller then he will stand next to the door to heaven to say yes, if the bird is a liar he will answer no to the question and in order to answer 'no' he has to stand next to the door to heaven.

Then go through the door.

God is dead.
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>>719730555
Yeah that works, unless someone wants to nitpick it.
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>>719723408
The only request being made is to distinguish each door. Just open a door and see which one it is (assuming you can tell by looking.).
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>>719723408
"Am I asking you a question right now?"

Easy to discern which is lying or telling the truth.
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>>719730788
>their door
What do you mean their door?

They aren't tied to specific doors.
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>>719730555
>>719730849

it never says the birds are guarding the doors. Even if they were they would both just answer "heaven" and you still wouldn't know which door is the door to heaven.
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>>719730561
I'm sorry you're grammatically challenged, I'm sure you'll make progress in college.
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>>719730595
How is that retarded? How does always telling the truth guarantee that you go to heaven? It fucking doesn't. The birds have no idea which they belong to. A bird that tells the TRUTH will answer I DON'T KNOW, because he DOESN'T KNOW.
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>>719730555
Why do you think they are guarding specific doors?
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>>719730849
>>719730555

the brids arent guarding the doors, they are just in the room.
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Ask either bird which door they would belong inside of
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>>719730904
Once you open a door you are stuck with it. It's assumed both doors are soundproof and identical in appearance and feeling.
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>>719730555

No because the birds aren't guarding any particular door.
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>>719730933
Then you're out of questions and still have to pick a random door.

Good job. You go to hell knowing which bird lied.
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>>719730464
>I've been on here for years
Yeah, sure.

Here you go, newfag.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/why-they-call-it-an-xbox-360
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>>719730464
I'm not falling for this bait. Not even worth a fishook image.
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>>719730946
I meant to say point, but that doesn't matter if the birds aren't tied to the doors. Hmm tricky.
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>>719731019

"i am taking a bird that tells the truth to heaven. Which door will you and I take"
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>>719731167
They would both say different doors.
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>>719727047
He said say, no, and still be correct since it is on his right,or yes because it is on your left.
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>>719729235
yes it does
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>>719723408
ez

pick up both stands.
> you're both coming with me
both scream the same door.
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>>719723408
>Is this even solvable?

Yes. It says you get to ask one question. It makes no limit on the number of declaratory statements you get to make.

>TELL ME WHAT 5 + 5 EQUALS.
>NOW TELL ME WHAT DOOR LEADS TO HEAVEN.

It's all about wording famalams.
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>>719729389
God mode:
if i ask you which door goes to heaven, which would you say?

Either bird will point to heaven with it's wing.
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>>719731294

lying bird will lie and say heaven, truth bird will say heaven
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>>719728317
what if he self identifies as a toaster.
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>>719730966

It says right in the fucking question that the bird is good idiot, it clearly goes to heaven
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>>719731391
You still ask for information that way, so it counts as a question. Doesn't matter that it doesn't have a "which or what" in it...
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>>719731398
We passed that already we're going for the throne.
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>>719723408
God slayer:
"Is the bird that lies nearer or further from heaven's door?"
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>>719729463
But what if the bad bird is amoral and thinks he deserves heaven anyway?
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>>719731337
no it does not.
The lying bird will say yes, the truthful bird will say no. You still don't know which door it is since your assumption is not related to your true/false claim.

The only way to link a true/false claim with an informational inquiry is a conditional.

I don't know why that is so hard to understand.
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oops, i didn't see and don't have time to scan through everyone and their sibling's easy mode answer.
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fucking easy. hold up one finger, then as one bird how many fingers you are holding up. That will determine which bird is the liar. Ask the other bird which door goes to heaven. Proceed
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>>719731424
Lying bird would say hell. You're implying to whichevet bird you talk to that it is the one that tells the truth, which both birds will happily agree with. Lying bird will point to hell.

Doesn't matter anyway, it's a hypothetical.
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>>719723408
I'll take my fate. Grab both birds and walk through a door.
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>>719731675
"Which door would GOD send you through?"
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>>719731717

one question not two....
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>>719731717
only 1 question
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>>719731613
Plot twist - they're perched on top of eachother.
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>>719731613
The birds can't see each other in God Slayer.
And they both would say the same thing.
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if i ask for forgiveness can i walk through this door after killing both of you? if both say yes it is hell if only one responds yes it is correct because you can still chose hell even if you are forgiven. work?
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>>719725996

I think this is the correct answer.

You ask liar. He lies and says truth bird would choose door B.

You ask truth bird. He tells you which door lie bird would choose. You don't want the liars door.
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challenge 1: what would the other bird say if I asked which door leads to heaven liar would say hell the one who tells the truth would say hell

Challenge 2: Ask if there were a bird that tells the truth or lies opposite to what you do and I asked it which door leads to heaven what would he say, the results would be the same as above

Challenge 3: be god idk
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>>719727937
I can only imagine how smug this guy felt when typing his comment. Sad!
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>>719723408
Assuming right door leads to heaven.
>Easy mode
Ask bird if other bird will say left door or right door leads to heaven, and pick opposite of what he says. Good will say left door since bad bird will lie. Bad bird will say left since he is a liar since good bird will choose right
>God mode
Ask bird if another bird that speaks opposite of you was here what door would he say leads to heaven.Pick other door Bad bird will say left. Good bird will say left.
>God Slayer
Ask bird which door they deserve to go to. bad bird will say right cus he deserves hell but is lying. Good bird will say right because he's good and deserves heaven.
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>>719731887
Easy mode beaten. Take a breather.
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rigorously define hypothetical or god mode's just a cheap trick.
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>>719731717
fuck i saw it wrong. Fuck me i wondered why it was so easy
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>>719728740
I think you should read the riddle again, but a bit more careful this time.
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>>719731927
Also as God I kill both birds
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>>719731927
>deserves

That's pretty debatable.
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>>719723408
If good = moral
As what door the bird wants me to take
Lier says heaven because he wants me to burn in hell, truth bird wants me to be happy.
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>>719732062
Then what else is there?
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>>719731927

they say the door that leads to heaven.
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>>719731927
>>719732062
Also it assumes the bird that tells the truth has accepted jesus christ as it's savior,
which was never given in the question
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>>719731962
I just got here and I don't see any other correct answers.
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>>719731885
possible?
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>>719732132
Nothing. God slayer mode isn't possible.
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is anyone able to show whats wrong with >>719730832
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>>719732192
Nah man, you did a good job with easy mode.
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Pick a door,

"does this door lead to Australia?"

One bird always lies, neither of the doors go to earth. The door which you're told goes to earth is clearly hell.

inb4 earth is hell
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>>719732080
This seems like a better alternative
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Easy answer:

"What door would be marked as the door to heaven, by a person who always lies"?

Easy. Next question.
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>>719732313

you only figure out which bird tells the truth or lies. That doesn't tell you what is behind the door.
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Say to one bird, "There are two birds in this room including you, one which always lies, and one which always tells the truth. I am going to ask the other bird, which door leads to heaven. What will he tell me?
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>>719732380
Just 1 question!
Condition 1: Check

No asking about any other bird
Condition 2: Check

No "ifs"
Condition 3: Check
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>>719728962
Wouldn't this be assuming that the birds have knowledge of the nature of the other bird? The riddle doesn't state that one bird knows the other lies or vice versa.
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>>719732268
What would stop the lying bird from lying and answering in front of the hell door?

What is making the bord move around in the first place? They just answer questions.
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>>719732440

> or have any hypothetical statements
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>>719732380
>>719732440

hypothetical statement
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>>719732380
and the bird that lies will tell you its the door to heaven as a lie you fucktard.
>ALWAYS
>LIES
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>>719732422
"this door does not go to earth" means that its the bird that tells the truth, "this door goes to earth" means its the bird thats lieing, its that simple
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>>719732380
Hypothetical question. Try again.
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>>719732603
Again, you figured out which bird lied. You haven't figured out which door to go through and you used your one question.
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>>719723408
Super god slayer mode 7000 - The birds are dead and you have to guess what they'd say
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>>719732485

Standing infront of the hell door doesn't have a yes or no assigned to it. The question was "Did I break your wing?" With the stipulation that the only way to answer is to stand infrontof the door to heaven for "yes" or to stand in front of the door to heaven for "no". In order for the liar bird to answer 'no' he has to stand in front of the door to heaven.

Birds can walk ya know.
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>>719732380
I see you're trying to get both birds to point to the hell door, but what's stopping the bad bird from pointing to the heaven door?
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>>719732062
>>719723408 (OP)
>Revised version
Assuming right door leads to heaven.
>Easy mode
Ask bird if other bird will say left door or right door leads to heaven, and pick opposite of what he says. Good will say left door since bad bird will lie. Bad bird will say left since he is a liar since good bird will choose right
>God mode
Ask bird if another bird that speaks opposite of you was here what door would he say leads to heaven.Pick other door Bad bird will say left. Good bird will say left.
>God Slayer
As what door the bird wants me to take.Lier says heaven because he wants me to burn in hell, truth bird wants me to be happy.
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>>719731885
win?
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>>719732380
Even if it wasn't hypothetical the birds would still be pointing in opposite directions....
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I would ask one of the birds, "Will you kill yourself by flying into the door you would wish to enter?" The good bird would deny my request because suicide is a sin. That bad bird would kill itself by flying into the door of hell.
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>>719723408
Pick a bird and ask it" which door would the other bird say went to heaven" of it was the truth bird it would tell you the hell door because that's what liar bird would say. If it was the liar bird then it would tell you the hell door because the other would tell you the heaven door. No matter the bird you'd pick the opposite of what he said.
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>>719732697
Why are the birds compelled to abide by the stipulation?

Even if they had to, the liar bird can lie and answer in front of the hell door.
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>>719723408
>Normal mode

Ask one bird " If I were to ask the other bird which door leads to Heaven, which one would he point out to me?"

The bird telling you lies will point to hell's door. The bird telling the truth would also point to hell's door.
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>>719732715
Who says the truth bird wants you to be happy? He could want you to go to hell and truthfully point to the hell door.
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>>719732739
Hypothetical.
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>>719733065
Truth bird is good liar bird is bad
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>>719723783
>>719727937
Replying to bait is the new meta-meme
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>>719732789
Easy mode acheived! Good job man!
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>>719733065
I guess the statement says the bird who tells the truth is "good". But if the person asking the questions of the bird was bad in the eyes of the good bird, the bird would point him to hell. This riddle makes me so introspective. 2deep4me
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>>719733120
And? Original question remains.
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>>719723408
Ask one bird
>is 1+1=2?
Option 1
>yes
Option 2
>no

Now we know which bird lies and which one tells the truth

>Ask the other bird if the left door is the door for hell

Now we know if it is or not
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God slayer mode: "Is the number of lying birds I'm talking to equal to the number of left doors that lead to hell?"

If the answer is no, go to the right, otherwise go to the left.
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>>719733254
You only get one question.
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Simple ask one question: which door is not heaven...

Both birds points the same one ...

Who made those riddles nowadays ....
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>>719723408
If I was the lying bird, I'd always answer with "I don't know".
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>>719733307
Had the hope to get one question for each bird
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I my have to rethink my impossibility assertion. I currently cannot see if flaw with this:

Point to one door.
"You are a bird, I am a tiger and this is the door to heaven, How many truths are in that statement?"

if heaven door:
lying bird: 1
truthful bird: 2

if hell door:
lying bird: 3
truthful bird: 1

if the reply is 2 you go through, if it isn't you go through the opposite.
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>>719723408
"If lying were to force you to take the door to hell, and telling the truth would force you to take the door to heaven, which door would you be forced to take?"
The lying bird will have to take the door to hell and will lie, pointing to the heaven door
The truthful bird will have to take the door to heaven, pointing at the heaven door

Take the door the bird picks, BAM.
God Mode complete.
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I would ask the skinny bird, (obviously the good bird since he doesn't give into the sins of greed and gluttony) which door is heaven. I would then enter that door.
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>>719733412
Good job with baby mode! Rest up.
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>>719724784
if u hug him and that is ur present then ur no lie
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>>719733447
this has several possibilities where you go through the wrong door
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>>719729087
>mfw bird says no
>mfw i still don't know if it's true or a lie because there are 2 separate statements in my sentence and birds probably only answer either yes or no
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>>719733218
Good is not subjective. A bird that is good cannot purposely point me to pain and misery. If he did then he is not good
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Just ask "Is OP a fag?"
the one that says no is the liar
EZ GOD MODE
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God Slayer mode: Heaven and hell don't exist. Both doors lead to Pizza Hut. You're stoned, now go home.
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>>719733635
Goodness is completely subjective.
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>>719733412
Which door is not heaven
>Good Bird tells the truth and points to the hell door.
>Bad Birds Lies and points to the heaven door
You can't even get past easy mode.
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>>719733635
What if you deserved to go to hell?
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>>719723408
ask one bird: are you a bird?
so you know if it is the lying bird or not.
ask then the other bird where the door to hell is
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what's my name?
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>>719733769
One question.

These riddles really show how bad peoples' reading comprehension is.
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>>719728111
Checked
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>>719733598
Such as?
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>>719723408
>Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

Fucking got him
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When will you faggots learn that there is no logical answer to this riddle? Not even easy mode. There isn't enough information given.
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>>719733769
You get one question on one bird. And that's it.
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>>719723783
Stoopid.
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>>719723408
Why did reading this make me want to watch fma
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>>719731675
Because then he would be telling the truth, and thats impossible.
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>>719733972
>"if I ask the other bird what door leads to heaven, which door will he point me to?"
Easy mode can be solved, the people here are just dumb.
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>>719733910
if you ask the lying bird you get the reply 1 and go through the other door to hell.

the attempt is a a very good idea though you'll need a composition that will produce unique results.
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>>719733447
Lying bird says 1, when you are in front of heavens door, you now go through hells door...
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>>719733972
Easy mode is easy. It's just what was in the movie Labyrinth. God mode requires a hypothetical, if it's possible. If there was a bird here that would answer the opposite of what you would answer, which door would he say led to heaven. Something like this. God Slayer mode? The best I can come up with is a literal - there is no God, there is no heaven and hell, the question is moot and no longer matters.
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GOD SLAYER MODE:
Point to a door.
Ask a bird, "Am i either pointing to heaven or speaking to a liar, but not both?"

If yes, go into that door.
If no, go into the other door.
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Tell one of the birds, "Will you fly to the door that you deserve to go to?"
Both birds will fly to the heaven door, since the bad bird will lie that it deserves to go to heaven, and the good bird actually does deserve to go to heaven.
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>>719734172
What if the bird that always told the truth was also a murderer?
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>>719734287
But he is a good bird. Good birds don't murder. I guess it's a bit of an assumption, but it would still be a good bet that the good bird doesn't kill. I'd be willing to risk my life on it.
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>>719734368
If he's a good bird that didn't accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, he's still going to hell.
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>>719730788
Yeah, I had this thoughtas well but the birds aren't linked to a specific door. You would have to specify the door in your question.

The lying bird would say yes and the honest bird would say no but you still don't know which door is which.
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>>719730062
Works for God Slayer, nobody poiinted it out ?

>>719730555
Doesn't solve anything, you can only ask one bird that and you don't know what bird it is
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>>719734463
But can't it be assumed that the good bird did accept Jesus Christ as his lord and savior since this whole riddle is based upon Christian religion? Maybe not since ITS JUST A BIRD LOL
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Are you done?
Looks like even brave and infamous /b/ros couldn't slay god huh?
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God mode - If I asked you yesterday which door was heaven, what would you have told me?

God slayer mode - impossible and just used for trolling.
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>>719734157
"Am i either pointing to heaven or speaking to a liar, but not both?"
>Good Bird says you're pointing to the heaven door.(only if you point to Heaven door, if you point to Hell Door the Good Bird can't answer either because you're neither point to Heaven, speaking to a liar)
>Bad Bird cannot answer since he can ONLY tell lies.
It's still a 50/50
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>>719734619
>>719734157
This works, ne?
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>>719734593
>deserve

Subjective.
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>>719734368
It would depend on a lot of unknowns. The problem does say 'good', which is a mythical word associated with a mythical place - 'heaven'. What if the bad bird doesn't know it's actually bad, and truly believes it is 'good'?
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>>719729509
>What color are my eyes?
>If accurate proceed to ask which door to choose

>I asked one question to one bird

Anon i think you might be retarded
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>>719734157
question is how the lying bird would handle the logical operation of "not both" when facing hell door. Since not both would equate to the truth no, he would technically reply yes, sending you to hell.
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>>719730788
only tells you if bird is lying or not
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>>719734612
I solved it, in a reasonable way.
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>>719734593
If the Guarding birds are a thing, it does work.
Good Bird tells the truth and points to the heaven door.
Bad Bird lies and points to the heaven door.
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>>719734775
Care to explain?
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>>719731788
Hypothetical question though so doesn't pass God slayer
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which door do you deserve to go through according to my beliefs that liers should go to hell and honest beings go to heaven?
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>>719734775
Which one is yours?

So far no answer has worked for god slayer.
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>>719734857
You take the 'God Slayer' title literally. There is no God, no heaven, no hell. The question becomes moot. Both doors lead nowhere, or someplace mundane. Move on.
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>>719734914
>>719734157

>So far no answer has worked for god slayer.
false
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>>719734974
>>719734709
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>>719734914
Why doesn't this
>>719734172
Work with god slayer mode?
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>>719734974
nope he failed look at this >>719734647
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>>719734974
You say that, but then don't say which answer was yours...

Go ahead, which one solves it?
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>>719734927
>the question becomes moot

Wh-what do you mean by this space cowboy?
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>>719731398
Same as aking "which door goes to heaven ?", lying bird will point to hell, becausee why wouldn't he fkin lie
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>>719735025
Among other things? The bad bird could truly believe it deserves to go to heaven.
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>>719735103
There is no heaven or hell. Asking either bird anything is pointless. They're just doors.
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>>719735025
Deserve is subjective and why would they actually fly over instead of answering the question of whether they can fly over?
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ask the first bird what your gender is, and then ask the second bird what door leads to heaven, if the first bird answers correctly the second bird will lie, and vice versa
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>>719735111
But why are we assuming the birds have thoughts that aren't specifically stated in the riddle? The only thing the riddle states about the character of the birds is that they are either good or bad, therefore it would be safe to assume that the bad bird knows it is bad. Nothing else can be assumed of the bad bird.
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>>719735151
The riddle could easily be switched with place you want to go to vs place you don't want to go to. Religion really shouldn't factor in.
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>>719723408
grab one of the birds by the pussy and waterboard it until it spills the leaked emails

>feelsgreatinmurica.jpg
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>>719735234
Exactly my point.
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>>719723408
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>>719735226
Re-read the riddle and try again.
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>>719734891
winner
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>>719734873
Replace "if" with "when" then.
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>>719733447
You can see in your own solution that this could go wrong.
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>>719723408
since you can ask the birds a question it means they understand speech, and if they are capable of that they should be able to take in new information.

so in order to win on god slayer mode and follow the rules you make a statement first turning your one question into two questions while still just being one actual question, thereby not breaking any rules.

say if im wearing a grey shirt I state to the birds the following:

I am wearing a grey shirt and that is the door to heaven (point at a door).

now the question:

Which of my two statements are correct?

The good bird will say both are correct or only the first one.

The lying bird will say the first statement is not correct or that both of them are wrong.

Answers and solutions for good bird,

Both statements correct: I am pointing at the door to heaven
First statement correct: I am pointing at the door to hell

Lying bird,

Both statements are incorrect: I am pointing on the door to heaven
First statement is incorrect: I am pointing on the door to hell.

I think that solves it.
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>>719735272
That's not the riddle, though. Pose the other riddle in another thread. Nor do I believe that 'god-slayer' is anything but a hint to the solution.
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>>719723705
That's easy mode. Do God mode by saying:
>Which door, my left or my right, would YOU say is the door to heaven.
Instead of a negative/positive or a positive/negative answer, you get a positive/positive or a negative/negative. Either way, you just go with whatever door the bird points at, and you never acknowledge the other bird.
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>>719735226
>and then ask
There is no "and then ask" you get one question to one bird and that's it.
If you're trying to solve easy mode it's already been done.
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>>719735330
Doesn't make it less hypothetical.
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>>719735428
You don't know what hypothetical means.
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>>719732715
its it also possible that the lying bird is cursed to tell nothing but lies, that it may want to do good but can only tell lies.
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>>719735323
Lying bird will also lie about being a liar.
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Teleport behind both bords and stab them with my katana "nothing personnel,kid"
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>>719734709
>>719734993

If you're pointing to hell and speaking to a liar,
1. i am NOT pointing to heaven (false)
2. i am speaking to a liar (true)
the question of "are both true" is false here.

Both means logical AND of the two statements' truth values.

so the qusetion is "either [false thing] or [true thing] but not [false thing]"
the correct answer is of course, yes.

The bad bird must therefore respond with "no". (in order to lie)
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>>719735477
Enlighten us how giving a question about something that may or may not happen in the future is not a hypothetical.
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>>719735336
yeah like I said it requires an additional true assertion to work, like so:

"You are a bird, I am a Tiger, there is a human in this room and I am pointing at the door to heaven. How many truths"

heaven door:
truth bird: 3
lie bird: 1

hell door:
tb = 2
lb = 2

if answer is 3 or 1 go through, if it is 2 go through opposite.
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>>719735345
shit nigga
winrar/10
Hello God
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>>719735639
if the lie bird anwers 2 and you're pointing to heaven, they're still lying,
so it doesn't work.
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>>719730226

Doors are not like birds
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>>719734891
Liar would lie about both being a liar and which door to go through. It doesn't resolve.
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>>719735518
"which door do you deserve to go through according to my beliefs that liers should go to hell and honest beings go to heaven?
"
is a single question
So the lying bird will point to heaven as it will go to hell according to my belief, the truthful bird will choose heaven as it is the truth.
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>>719735226
I'm going to be triggered if the first bird presumes my gender.
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>>719735639
Lying bird lies and says 20 no matter which door you're pointing to. Now what?
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>>719735706
that depends on whether the lying can be arbitrary or only within the confinement of the question you lay out, but yes.

The easy mode solution implies the latter. Otherwise the lying bird in easy mode could just say, there is no bird, which would constitute a lie and make the entire problem unsolvable.
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>>719725996
This is wrong also... The bad bird doesn't necessarily want to go to hell...
You need to choose your words correctly.
Easy mode answer is this:
>If I was to ask the other bird, "which door leads to heaven?", which door would it choose?
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>>719735601
"Or may not" lol. You know it will happen so there is no hypothetical.
If you ask "Which side will you lie on WHEN you sleep?" Is that a hypothetical, since that depends on whether or not they sleep? That would mean literally every question about the future is hypothetical.
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>>719735768
see>>719735846
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>>719735639
You're making statements, then your question is for the bird to verify those statements.

Ishy. You are allowed to ask one bird one question. It's pushing the boundaries quite a bit to include several statements. There is no guarantee that the birds would listen to them or take them into account, though.
>>
GODSLAYER MODE

just touch the door handle. if it's hot it's probably leading to hell
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>>719735345
I think you're asking more than one question.

I see what you're trying to do and it's a good idea but I just don't think you can get around the fact that you're asking two questions even if you're creative with the phrasing .
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>>719735345
ya, that sounds about right. the statement at the beginning is questionable, but i guess it doesn't break any rules so it's fine
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>>719735916
Any predictions about the future are not certainties.
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>>719735943
I agree it isn't elegant or ideal and it presupposes the lying isn't arbitrary which the entire problem does though.

So far it's the best I could come up with though
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>>719735639
>How many truths
You do realize the liar bird can say any number it wants right?
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>>719735928
It's not arbitrary. Answering 20 for that question is a legitimate lie. Answering any number except the true answer is a lie without even fudging interpretations.
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>>719727497
So lying is considered worthy of being damned in hell... fuck your god is petty as fuck.
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>>719735345
If you ask how many statements are correct that's just one question. As tried above though that approach doesn't work


If you're asking the bird to respond to each part of the question specifically then you're definitely asking two questions.
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Still say that it's extremely simple. There is no heaven or hell, neither door leads to heaven. Take the birds home, sell them. Even lying birds that can answer questions and hold a conversation have to be worth a fortune.
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>>719735077
the bad bird can answer.
there is a true answer to the question.
the bad bird must say a false answer,
i.e. something else.
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>>719723408
"If this door on the right is the door to heaven, are you a bird?"

If the bird is a liar and it's the door to heaven, it'll say no. If it's a liar and not the door to heaven, it won't say anything.

If the bird is honest, and the door leads to heaven, it'll say yes. If it's not the door to heaven, it won't say anything.

Basically saying "if this door leads to heaven..." and asking it a true or false will always work.

I still haven't figured out god slayer mode, though
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>>719736148
God made that bird a liar and wants to punish it. Fuck god.
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>>719723705
>>719735377

Except where you're both wrong
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>>719734891
This is literally the same thing as asking which is the door to Heaven
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>>719736047
Tell me, what exactly is the hypothesis in the question: "when you die, will God send you through the door on the left?"
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Rape both birds then pick any door
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>>719736146
It's excluded by the framing of the original problem. The lying bird adheres to the confinement of your question or the entire problem is unsolvable.

What door would the other bird tell me to go through?
neither. the invisible door. the magical door. All lies and all excluded by the framing of the problem.
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>>719736213
"If this door on the right is the door to heaven, are you a bird?"
WHAT?? That makes no sense. The only question that's gonna get answered is the "are you a bird" part.
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>>719735345
It has to be modified so that the answering bird only gives one answer. Here, if you aren't told which of the statements are correct, then both birds can answer 1 and you won't know anything from that. You have to create a situation in which they cannot answer the same. Therefore you need to add a statement.

Using only props in the room, considering that the birds can't see each other:
"You are a bird, this is a door, this is the door to heaven. How many truths are in my statement?"

Answers 1 or 2 means wrong door.

Answers 0 or 3 means 72 virgins.
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>>719736423
20 is an actual answer though.
ask a yes or no question, where the only actual answers are yes and no.
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>>719736400
All sorts of things wrong here.

Everything in the room must already be dead. Even if they weren't, who's to say the bird wouldn't repent before it does. Why would the lying bird automatically get sent to hell?

You're making assumptions. It's hypothetical.
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Thread is dead.
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I think I solved godslayer mode.

I ask one of the birds "Can you lie to me about which door goes to heaven?"
Both birds will point at hell
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>Godslayer Mode

This answer relies on the following assumptions

1. The birds are cognizant of their own status as lying or honest birds
2. The birds are sapient and can make an inference (if the birds are automata with scripted responses, this answer fails)
3. The birds hear everything you say, and are obligated to answer the first question asked, if it is asked of them

>Say "I am not left handed"
>Say "I am left handed"
>Stand right next to one door
>Ask either bird "Is the more honest of the two of us closer to the door to heaven than the less honest of us?

>Stand by Heaven, asked Honest bird
I am less honest than the honest bird, the more honest of us is closer to the Hell door, the honest bird says no, and I go through the door to Heaven next to me

>Stand by Hell, asked Honest bird
I am less honest than the honest bird, the more honest of us is closer to the Heaven door, the honest bird says yes and I cross the room to the Heaven door

>Stand by Heaven, asked Lying bird
I am more honest than the lying bird, the more honest of us is closer to the Heaven door, the lying bird says no, and I go through the Heaven door next to me

>Stand by Hell, asked Lying bird
I am more honest than the lying bird, the more honest of us is closer to the Hell door, the lying bird says yes, and I cross the room to the Heaven door

I am the Godslayer, I tell the birds to stop being dicks, everyone except for /b/tards gets to to Heaven
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>>719736486
Exactly. The lying bird can't answer because you're not asking if it's the right door, therefore it wouldn't be lying. Just following your scenario.

If it says it's a bird, it's the right door. If it says it's not a bird, it's the right door. If it doesn't say anything, it's the wrong door.
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>>719736423
But then you know that bird is lying and the other bird must therefore be honest.

You're not trying to decipher 3 or 4 potential responses.
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>>719736528
You're redefining the problem as it was originally posed.

The original problem is one of propositional logic. The truth is A and the corresponding Lie is -A. If you throw out that principle the lying bird can always reply with I don't know and the problem becomes unsolvable.
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>>719736423
It's not though.

The question was how many truths are in that statement, any number except the true one is a legit lie.
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>>719736637

>"Can you breathe fire?"
"No"
>"Can you lie to me about which door goes to Heaven?"
"No"

Both birds answer 'no'. They don't have to follow your orders, they just have to answer one question.
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>>719736213
>If the door on the right is heaven
Good Bird Yes.
Bad Bird No.
>If the door on the right is not heaven
Good Bird No.
Bad Bird Yes.
But since that wasnt the question it doesn't get answered.
>Are you a bird?
Good Bird Yes.
Bad Bird No.

It's still a 50/50, saying which door leads where is not gonna change their answer of them being birds, they're still birds. One is gonna lie, and one is gonna tell the truth.
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