Is Die Hard the only 80s action movie who is still worth watching?
Lethal Weapons are still pretty entertaining. It's fun to watch the acceptable levels of sexism/racism in the 80s. Like when Danny Glover goes to immigrate to South Africa and the guy at the embassy is like Wut?
Looks like shiiiit.
I'll give you that.
Sci-Fi, but okay. Those are good, but I was looking for more real-world action films.
Blade Runner is more drama than action. Also sci-fi
Raiders of the Lost Ark is pure crap with only one redeeming feature: It got a sequel, Temple of Doom, which is alright.
Commando is pretty good
>pic related the greatest 80s action movie prove me wrong fuck you
Conan the Barbarian is badass
Lethal Weapon series
Big Trouble in Little China
Escape From New York
Missing in Action
There are so many, OP. The 80s were the creative apex of the action genre.
>Rejecting Die Hard's Persongender
You cishet faggots.
What is the appeal of Raiders that everyone but me sees? I was bored out of my skull. I enjoyed Temple of Doom somewhat, but not that much. Raiders, however...I don't get why people like it.
Have you heard of Derelict yet? It's a fan recut/mashup of Prometheus x Alien that ties the two movies together. It's really cool actually if youre a fan
Beverly Hills Cop
Death Wish franchise
Missing in Action franchise
Mad Max franchise
Chuck Norris movies
the start of Jean Claude Van Damme movies
etc etc etc etc
You literally chose the decade with the MOST great action movies made. So OK troll. 6/10
You're probably the guy who thinks 'Temple' was better than 'Raiders.'
not really action but here you go thank me later
>Lethal Weapon series
>Big Trouble in Little China
>Escape From New York
>Missing in Action
See, this is why I made the thread: Almost the entire list have aged badly.
Lethal Weapon I still enjoy, though not as much as Die Hard
Commando, Cobra and Rambo feel goofy now, the acting and writing is sub-par.
Alien and Aliens still feel as fresh as the day they came out, same with Terminator.
Predator still is good action-wise, but it feels old and I've seen the formula repeated so many times that it doesn't capture me in the same way. Besides, The Thing did the same plot a thousand times better
Robocop's mix of action and satire is too much, and the action scenes are among the worst on this list.
Bloodsport I'll have to check out.
Big Trouble in Little China was kind of annoying actually. It's pretty obvious from the get-go that Wang was the more interesting character, yet it's all Jack, Jack Jack. I get that that is the point of the movie, but still.
Escape From New York...I had just forgotten that
MIA and Raw Deal have aged super-badly.
If you don't appreciate the camp value of the films you're deriding in that post then I don't really know what you're looking for in action films.
Action films are dumb fun. You didn't appreciate it when you were a kid because you were a kid so you took it seriously. Don't.
>Commando, Cobra and Rambo feel goofy now, the acting and writing is sub-par.
I personally enjoy all 3 of them, but I can see why someone thinks the first two are goofy. People said they were goofy at the time they were released.
However, I need you to explain what is goofy about Rambo- first blood. Go on, I dare you.
>Lethal Weapon I still enjoy, though not as much as Die Hard
>Commando, Cobra and Rambo feel goofy now, the acting and writing is sub-par.
Rambo? Sub-par? Nigga, are you crazy?
>Alien and Aliens still feel as fresh as the day they came out, same with Terminator.
Well, that's for damn sure.
>Predator still is good action-wise, but it feels old and I've seen the formula repeated so many times that it doesn't capture me in the same way.
So you knock the original because it's spawned poor imitations? You're fucking doing it wrong.
>Besides, The Thing did the same plot a thousand times better
Carpenter's 'The Thing' is a 10/10 film. Very few movies will get close to it.
>Robocop's mix of action and satire is too much, and the action scenes are among the worst on this list.
No, no, no. Everything about that statement is wrong.
>Bloodsport I'll have to check out.
The only Van Damme I still like.
>Big Trouble in Little China was kind of annoying actually. It's pretty obvious from the get-go that Wang was the more interesting character, yet it's all Jack, Jack Jack. I get that that is the point of the movie, but still.
>Escape From New York...I had just forgotten that
Remember it well.
>MIA and Raw Deal have aged super-badly.
Maybe. Haven't seen either in a while now.
Is it not pretty goofy how First Bood is completely overshadowed in the mind of us plebs by Rambo 2 and Rambo 3? In fact, so overshadowed that I almost posted without correcting Rambo 2 to Rambo: First Blood Part 2
I can think of a few others:
Lethal Weapon, Mad Max 2, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Predator, Aliens (Alien is more of a horror film), Terminator, Robocop, Total Recall, Commando (I know it's goofy, but that's the appeal), Conan the Barbarian (also pretty goofy and not a good adaptation of the source material, but still fun)
Just to name a few.
But seriously though, anyone who hasn't seen the Mad Max films should. High quality post-apocalyptic action classics.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT RAIDERS?
EVERYONE LOVES THAT MOVIE.
ALL I SEE IS OVERACTING AND A DOUCHE PROTAGONIST.
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME SEE THE ERROR OF MY WAYS.
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, OTHERWISE I'LL NEVER PASS AS HUMAN.
Xmas at my house
>adults upstairs talking
>men drinking whiskey, girls drinking grasshoppers
>some 1950s tunes, crooning over strings
>kids in basement w/ legos
>Charlie Browns sad sad christmas
>"ok kids thats enough tv, time to read or play some music"
>sits down at peeano
>plunk plink plonk
>ok i'll play it right
>hauls into rachmaninovs concerto 2
>NO COMMUNIST MUSIC ON CHRISTMAS
>kfine, brahms it is
>play myself to sleep
>wake up in car
>view outside window only snow and trees
>world just beyond is a living hell full of idiots and assholes
>have no idea
should have died when i was 12.
So according to OP, action movies can't be funny in any way, must be super self-serious but immune to campiness, and have to have constant gun fire and explosions. Gentlemen, we are in the presence of autism.
It's kinda sad because he seems earnest but it is classic autism that he should be so desperate to explore a genre that he obviously doesn't really understand or likely ever will.
The Thing and Predator are not the same plot unless you want to just reduce it to there's an alien they need to kill in relatively remote areas of the world(though Arnold and the guys were only a choppa ride away from civilization)
Predator is the whole squad against the hidden alien
The Thing reveals the alien and then has the whole group turning on each other because of the assimilation factor. plus it turns into more of a we have to kill this for humanity's sake whereas predator is mainly just for their own survival, i mean if they couldve gotten to the chopper without running into the predator they totally wouldve bailed on the whole situation
both are awesome and the thing is better, but thats partly because it has a deeper plot than predator
are you serious? die hard is funny as fuck
fuckin drunk ass grandpa smashin his car and shit
before adding a movie to my library, I chop off the opening production studio logos and the credits scroll (between the last sound of the film & the begining of the credits score), and lately, I've been chopping out a lot of the pointless filler... a lot of the endless punching or endless shooting... at some point, I've seen enough of it, that I feel like I'm reading the script of the movie and it goes to 14 straight pages of the word blam. blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam blam
...yeah I get it, they're fighting. Let me know how it turns out. In the mean time, is there something more interesting going on we could focus on? These looong and absurdly choreographed fight scenes, especially in TV series, just feel like waiting for the movie to continue while the director blows some time. So I've been chopping the fight scenes down to pretty much who threw the first couple punches, who threw the last, how it ended, and if there was some key development in the middle, but I've found it greatly helps the stories flow and the movie move along.
It also makes the fight scenes seem more realistic and intense, because you don't have so long to normalize to the level of aggression.
It's like fuckin science m80s
The difference between the 80s and now is that directors recognized the idiocy of the action genre as a whole. The idea of a single dude mowing down armies with no shirt and 3% bodyfat while standing in the open is just stupid, but 80s embraced it and made it over the top because the genre itself is over the top.
Commando is maybe the most ridiculous "real-life" action movie ever made, but it's not trying to be Citizen Kane. Arnold and whoever directed it recognized this and embraced it with all the campiness of the 80s. It's not "good," but it's definitely awesome.
That is kind of the charm of the 80's though.
The idiocy put to screen challenged what was entertaining. Hell. Mystics in Bali is crazy, but is a time capsule of all sorts of odd scripting and sfx.
All in all, the 80's were Film's college years being nutty and experimental. Now Film has gotten older and more tame, and now in need of some spicing up
I love that the predator was actually a spoof:
"Long before ‘Snakes on a Plane’, ‘Predator’ was one of the first movies to be directly inspired by a Hollywood in-joke. The gag doing the rounds after ‘Rocky IV’ was that, having battered an earthly opponent, next time around Sly would have to fight an alien. All of which gave screenwriting brothers Jim and John Thomas an idea…
With Sly tied up with 'Rocky V', Arnie stepped in to play Dutch, the military tough guy who takes his top team of wisecracking mercenaries into the Latin American jungle to rescue American hostages, before terrorists turn out to be the least of their problems.
Tense and pacey, ‘Predator’ delivers an intravenous shot of testosterone as a trophy-collecting game hunter from outer space picks off the platoon one by one. But of course the climax sees Old Ironballs taking the creature on single-handed, duking it out in the mud, mano-a-mano."
Not op, but I like it. The phasing is somewhat of a problem in that movie though. And the plot gets a little bit hard to keep track of at times. So it's a good 80s movie, but not really great. I put it in the same category as The Long Good Friday. Has potential but the director blew it a bit.
52 pick up is a GREAT 80s thriller.
Also, during the filming of Predator they choppered Arnold to the jungle set each day from his 5 star hotel while the rest of the cast lived on site in bug infested huts without air conditioning.
to see the actual movie, the shit that's actually telling the story.
If I'm telling a story and then take 10 minutes to show you a hundred punches, you already know what's happening by the first punch. punch 1 says, "they are fighting". Punch 100 says "this is how the fight ends". You learn nothing new from punches 2-99. You just wait for them to be over, while the director makes the actor feel like the 6 months they spent in the gym with the choreographer working on butterfly kicks were worthwhile.
That shit's filler. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
If I take a 120min movie and remove the bullet/punch filler, and get an 80 minute story out of it, it's an 80min movie, with 40 min of filler. I'll take the 80min movie.
>what is home alone
>what is home alone 2
>who is kevin mccallister
>who are the wet bandits
>who are the sticky bandits
>who is marv
>who is harry
You're the most deplorable piece of shit, you're worst than a woman.
I was watching some thing on the making of Lord of the Rings, and the cast were like, that Sean Bean motherfucker is something else. The rest of us took the chopper with all our days gear up to the top of the mountain every day, but Bean wakes up early every goddamn morning, straps it on his back, and hikes up there on foot. Says he prefers the fresh air and the exercise. He talked one of the fitter guys in the crew into going up with him one morning, and thought they were going to die. Sean thought he was joking and laughed. He pretended like it was, but never went up again. Sean is a nice guy, but he's a tough motherfucker for real.
I'm just gonna say what we all think, if they just stopped making movies and had cinemas play reruns of 80s movies we would all be happier.
>buying into another generations nostalgia
>being this millennial
don't be a fucking faggot, faggot
There were fuckloads of shitty movies made in that decade, and fuckloads of great films made in every other decade of film.
Does They Live count as an action film?
I guess not... but it's still fucking awesome.
Rowdy Roddy Piper mother fucker.
I find there are very few movies of this decade I bother watching more than once. 80s just produced more great movies. These days studios are desperately trying to leech of the 80s tit. Or make some kind of boring effect movie.
No one posting one of the greatest action flicks of all time, nevermind the 80's.
Technological innovations, yes undoubtedly. Still,they are innovations that nearly everyone has used to retard themselves developmentally/socially/educationally/politically/culturally/spiritually/mentally, pretty much across the board.
>I'm posting on the /b/ so that kinda disproves what I'm about to say
but the internet is a great source for knowledge.
Also, mobile phones make my life so much easier. However, I really only use it to receive texts every once in a while.
>These days studios are desperately trying to leech of the 80s tit.
As is every teenager trying to write music, and every fuckin kid picking out clothes, and every fucking sad sack middle age cunt who never grew the fuck up. In the 80's it was all '50s nostalgia. In the 90s, it was the 70s. In the 00's and now the 10's, it's 80s going into 90's. It's the 25 year nostalgia wave marketing depts everywhere fall back on by default, becase coming up with new ideas is harder, most expensive, and riskier than selling people an unrealitic but idealized version of their youth when they enter middle age and find the world isn't what they thought it would be.
There are more and great films now being produced each year than anyone has time to see in their lifetime, more than (what's left of) the industry even has time to sift through much less promote and distribute. idgaf about new movies, but if I did, I'd be in heaven bc whatever you like, there's shitloads of it being made better than ever before right now.
Yep, the 80's were the peak, with a little bit of spillover into the early '90's, there was a lot of utterly retarded (as far as in general as well as technical/scientific accuracy) stuff, but the good stuff was stellar. Now there is an agenda behind almost everything, everything is weak and diluted, the good stuff from now is a lot more rare, and generally not as brilliant. The balance between real effects, film, and computers has been lost.
>There are more and great films now being produced each year than anyone has time to see in their lifetime
I really can't remember seeing a recent movie lately and thinking that it was really great. I'm trying to rack my brain here. Looking at the imdb top 250 didnt help me either, I just kept thinking about how overrated the Dark Knight is.
Yes. I mean, I even enjoy The Last Starfighter more than current shitfests of CGI. But that's more camp value, I know that.
The original Tron just amaze me more than the latest installment to the franchise. That's a work of art.
>Judge Dredd and Starship Troopers
Meh, Judge Dredd was a huge let down. Starship Troopers was aight storywise.
The best of the 90s imho was Fight Club. And if we are to be more action oriented, then the Matrix.
>I'm posting on the /be so....
1. The means of communication doesn't change its validity. ex. If one states the speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s, is that not valid because of where one posts it?
2. Actually, it is a perfect demonstration of the proliferation of retards, you for example.
While the internet is a resource, the majority of people don't use it for that, and the amount of misinformation is staggering.
We got along just fine without cellular phones, there is a mass disconnect from situational reality which is mildly disturbing to watch. One couldn't have created a better means of manufacturing social isolation if they tried.
Ehh, how old were you to have not noticed the reselling of the 50s as a cultural ideal, after the extremes of the 70s, in a backlash against that hedonism with prudish conformism and worship of the almighty $? Happy Days, Back to the Future, fashion & music, I could list examples all day, but that'd be tedious.
If they were selling those cultural ideals, not many people were buying at all--divorce, crime, drugs, deviance, porn, all skyrocketed, and all the leave it to beaver bs in existence didn't change a thing. I could list a shitload more counterexamples. Music for one. By the way the first half of happy days was running in the '70s.
wut? who thinks of the 80s as a morally pure utopia? 80s is generally considered the greedy decade.
You know Blue Velvet was made in the mid 80s right? It made fun of what you call the puritan society of the 50s.
Same way the 70's was sold in the 90s as being all about hippies which was all about love and peace and kindness and great music and environmentalism and fun clothes and blah blah blah. Then you see what was actually going on in the late 60s & 70s and you realize what a tiny percentage of the story all that wonderfulness actually was.
The Empire Strikes Back
9 to 5
Any Which Way You Can
Coal Miner's Daughter
Smokey and the Bandit II
The Blue Lagoon
The Blues Brothers
Top grossing movies of the '80s. Now which of these are selling the '50's as a morally pure utopia? Expand the list to the top grossing 50 films. 100 for that matter. Apply this to the action genre...Go ahead, I'll wait.
I get the general idea of decades having some of the same qualities though. 90s did have 70s ideals mixed with a consumerist image.
Still doesn't disprove the fact that the 80s had the best movies and music. Musically speaking the 60s can compete with the 80s.
Yeah. You see the view from the Presidents desk, and realize why Nixon thought he was seeing the country plunging headlong into another civil war. 40,000+ domestic bombings in 1968. Civilian/authority death tolls off the fucking charts. Millions of civilians leaving their jobs, burning their citizenship, and marching on washington... the hard drugs hitting mainstream, cults popping up everywhere, crime rings following suit... Nixon might have been a constitution-stomping treasonous motherfucker at his very worst, but, looking back on what he was seeing develop in just a few years, I get it. What a mess.
If you weren't around back then, there is no accurate unbiased way for you to 'see' what was actually going on. As far as portrayal of different eras in movies and pop culture is concerned, it is now simulacra of simulacra of simulacra.
>Raiders of the Lost Ark is pure crap
fite me irl fagit
At first I was like 'why the fuck would anybody watch Die Hard 2 more than once' but then I saw Star Wars xmas special and I realized you must be a fucking alien or something because no human could possibly sit through that gang-rape of a film more than once