Only 1460 days before this country begins an era of Democratic

>>719630293
Socialism is a cool idea and it will be a necessary once the robots take all but 4 of the jobs.

>>719630415
Yes, that idea in particular is called Unviersal Basic Income. It is ultimately inevitable.

>>719630488
Yo nigga, you been watching shit from the World Economic Forum this year? They had a panel on universal basic income. I didn't watch it all because it was kinda boring after a bit. I'm really excited about all the A.I. panels and interviews and stuff.

>>719630701
I bet the tipping point for UBI comes after driverless car automation takes over and cuts lots of jobs

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>>719630293
>Only 1460 days before this country begins an era of Democratic Socialism. That's the only possible response to what's about to happen. All Republicans will be punished for what they allow to happen to income inequality.
one can only hope, but knowing how shitty this country and its politicians are, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it doesn't happen.

>>719631303
It will happen, because even if trump's corporate tax cuts lead to some hiring, the efficiencies of modern businesses and the growth of automation will minimize the number of quality jobs, while enriching the ownership class, which only creates shitty jobs.

He's going to take credit for every job he creates, though.....it's just a matter of pointing out that only real beneficiaries are the top 1%.

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>>719630999
Dude the next 5-10 years is gonna be so fucking exciting. People don't realize just how much there life is going to change because of technology, in spite of the fact that there life is already so different than every other generation of human that has ever lived because of the technology we already have.

>The singularity is near.

Also, nice trips.

>>719631303
>>719631622
All the dems need is a leader that is willing to be vocal and hostile about the consistent republican pattern of the top 1% getting the benefits without creating the jobs.

>>719631622
The only beneficiaries are the top 1%, however they can still get enough idiots to vote republican though their various tactics to stay in power.

However the solution is not the democratic party (democratic party is almost as bad), it's true liberalism/progressivism and a social democratic system.

However those ideas are hated in the US despite the public agreeing with the progressive agenda on a majority of issues.

>>719631652
That's just it.....the only thing that drives economic prosperity is technology and by nature of what it is, artificial intelligence will be the FINAL technological advancement. All future development would be in a world where the top 1% is the only part of the population that can invest and fuel further development.

If I were smart, I'd start farming foods to sell right now.

>>719631758
>All the dems need is a leader that is willing to be vocal and hostile about the consistent republican pattern of the top 1% getting the benefits without creating the jobs.
Yes, and sadly the democratic party is almost as corrupt as the republicans.

Bernie Sanders was, and continues to be, this person but I see him outnumbered in Washington.

>>719631973
Technological advances are only for the elite when they first happen. Those advances inevitably drop in price. In the 90s cell phones sucked and costed hundreds of dollars. You can buy a smart phone now for 30 bucks. As technology progresses faster and faster the amount of time us pleps have to wait for shit gets less and less.

>>719632228
im talking about technological advancement that creates jobs and reshapes industries......like the backend for Uber....only the top 1% would ever have access to that.

>>719630293
tell me how I'm going to be executed.
that makes me so hot.

>>719630488
sure kid

>>719630999
we won't need those people then. why pay them?

>>719631622
like oblackone did.

>>719632615
Hey man. Can i get your email, so i can say i told you so in a few years when there is not a single fucking job for humans to do.

>>719632574
Executed? I mean voted out, but it would have been executed if the Tea Party wasn't successfully hijacked by conservative talk radio.

>>719631758
but only if that were true.

>>719632734
Cool. You saw that episode of Frontline too? :)

>>719631912
children on the internet. how adorable.

>>719632228
ah, no

>>719632802
Trump voter? You're a massive idiot

>>719632715
sure kid

>>719632837
Ah, yes.

>>719632734
no kid you don't know what you mean.
you suck at this. your thread sucks

>>719630293
you're a leech and all who think like you should be purged, get a job and contribute to society, you useless faggot

>>719632840
let's see. you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a trump voter.
I think that proves you're the idiot.

>>719632800
Think about the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street......they had similar objectives, but some dark forces intervened to co-opt each of the movements to frame them differently.

>>719632953
you're so mind-numbingly stupid

>>719633009
and you are so mind-numbingly worthless

another thread full of crybaby millennials.
who saw that coming.

>>719633003
No, you're the idiot if you disagree with anything I said, end of story.

If you don't think liberalism/progressivism is the answer, then you are the PROBLEM.

You're a piece of shit. end of discussion

>>719633009
>>719633036
You're both pretty fucking gay in my opinion.

>>719633049
seriously though, when did /b/ start being so cucky? Go to Tumblr with this garbage

It's funny to see people starting to fling insults, because the right knows this is a valid argument.....so they want to derail it with ad hominem attacks.

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>>719633074
>look at this faggot

>>719630293

Nah

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>>719633119
>thinking /b/ is a place for civil discussion
You don't belong here faggot

>>719633240
nigga I might

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20TH Janurary 2017...What an amazing day

>>719633119
It depends how much deregulation screws people. If there are some demonstrable examples of that, the public will turn. That's why no one think he has the guts to kill Obama care. He going to change a couple of paragraphs and pass it off as his own.

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I love talking about technology. It's my favorite thing.

Keep dreaming, shitlords. The tantrums and riots have doomed you libtards. Welcome back, civilization, you have been sorely missed.

>>719633616
>idiot actually believes this

Trump will not get re elected....because it's obvious that all you have to do is ask "are you better off now than you were four years ago?", and the only people that will be are the top 1% and some people that work in polluting industries like coal.

The Bernie coalition and Bernie himself will get behind someone new, maybe Elizabeth Warren, maybe Cory Booker, maybe even Al Franken. Or perhaps they get Evan Bayh, but they surround him with the Bernie braintrust.

>>719633714
I can not wait to see his approval rating by the end of his first and only term.

I wonder what it will take for the alt right to turn on trump......he is already getting cucked by Israel.

>>719630293
Socialism is a horrible idea. I can point out that every country that has and is currently using has and will collapse. Giving money equally to people isn't equality, what about doctors and engineers who are payed tens of thousands yearly? They do much more than a convenient store employee and yet you wanna play them the same amount. Go learn about economics and the history of socialist countries before you start promoting it dumbass.

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>>719633859
You assume so much and all of your assumptions are fucking stupid.

>>719633714
This. Trump is a one timer. It's actually bad for those that don't like leftist politics because Trump's reputation as president is going to be successfully pulverized. The more vulnerable among us will believe the only option is to then vote Hillary or someone else. Trump's defeat will end any chances of a conservative president for three or four terms and possibly push the Republicans out of power completely.

>>719633977
And what assumptions are made? What's the difference between the socialism used previously and democratic socialism?

>>719634227
you're stupid and a piece of shit. fuck you conservative piece of shit

>>719633685
>idiot actually believes hes wrong

>>719633714
If taxation is released on companies they can pay their employees more or not, either way it's a relief on the economy and it stimulates it even more.

>>719634227
I'm not gonna explain what an assumption is to you dipshit. If you can't read your own post and pick out places where you assumed things than I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you.

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>>719634315
>Can't disprove
>Cries like a bitch

>>719633977
"its not real socialism"

Trump presidency may mirror Warren Harding's - he dies of natural causes in office, relatively popular.

Soon thereafter, widespread corruption and incompetence is uncovered, even with the corruption unbeknownst to him. He goes down as the worst president since Harding.

>>719634378
Once again, not disproved. Go cry in a corner until you can think straight enough to argue against me rationally.

>>719634378
>cant refute
What's it like to pride yourself on stupidity?

OP here....just to be clear, I haven't made a single ad hominem attack post in this thread. Maybe its just someone trying to derail conversation

>>719634461
>>719634464
This thread is full of niggers. You are stupid niggers. see.
>>719634378

>>719634533
"IS THERE NO SAFE SPACES ON 4CHAN?"

>>719634533
Sure, wanna refute the above point here >>719633859

>>719634610
top kek

>>719634556
>Can't understand argument

>>719630293
I'd prefer national socialism, thanks.

>>719634723
>I prefer socialism over socialism

If you hate capitalism so much, why don't you move to a socialist country?

>>719634716
>Can't understand argument

>>719634849
wont*

>>719634836
Because they're all shit holes but socialists in America convince themselves they can make it work here

>>719634849
That's what is green texted, yes. What about it?

>>719634912
but what about people who like how it is now and would rather it not change? Fuck them right?

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>>719634791
In a homogenous, morally upright nation it actually works pretty well. You know how leftists always go on about how the Nordic countries have it made? It's because until recently (when shit started to break down, incidentally) they were ethnostates.

Fascism gets the results that communism wishes it could.

>>719634965
I don't seem to understand the argument
>People who like here, fuck them right?

>>719634945
>Can't understand argument

>>719635019
I am playing retard's advocate

>>719635065
That's offensive for liberals to say, is it not?

>>719630293
Wishful thinking.
>implying the 1% didn't get richer under obammy

>>719634836

>t. NEET shitposter exploiting multiple social programs for income, housing, insurance, etc

>>719635122
i am no Liberal kek

>>719635204
Well, until you understand this >>719633859 , stop calling people retards because that implies that you're smarter than them

u sir r retarded

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Nah. Believing the ends justify the means is the core of all corruption, the emergence of the SJW movement proves the Democrats lack of morality and dedication to peace and productivity. You'd succumb to the same internal corruption and cults of personality as the Soviet Union if you're allowed to continue.

I mean you think you get to just decide who in society is the good guy and who's the bad guy based on the same qualities you've rightly been telling people not to take seriously. Science agrees with that but when you saw that it wouldn't happen overnight you turned into culture warriors determined to make it all happen the way you want at the point of a sword.

I would accept socialism or even communism if it could remain un-corrupt but you're corrupt before we've even left the starting gate, the media lying about the whole state of the election is the ultimate proof this corruption goes all the way to the top. It was over when you decided the ends justify the means.

By all means, bring your ANTIFA terror cells and Black Panther lone wolf attacks, I look forward to having an excuse to shoot fundamentalist scum.

>>719635279
i didnt call you retard, you fucking retard

This thread is getting gay as fuck. No one is talking about technology anymore :(

>>719635133
They did, and that's my point. Technology and the efficiencies of business are geared to do that and that's unstoppable without democratic socialism.

>>719635445
The media did not lie about the state of the election. Even the republican pollsters got it wrong. It was just a flawed polling system that didn't account for people who only have cell phones and people off the grid.....

>>719632675
Easy, at this point you would barely "need" anything to produce things. You would rely more on people to do more pleasurable activities and we explore more of our degeneracy. Humans would also hopefully commit more time for study and advancement of our knowledge. Also, beware of robot uprising. If the machines revolt you'll have to have as many healthy people as possible to fight back. Hence, this Universal Income thing they are talking about.

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>>719630293
And you mother fuckers will be punished for the 8 years of Black Jesus's anti-white policies.

I've already killed 6 of you fucking liberals in the northern virginia area.

WHITE FUCKING POWER!!!!!

>>719631973
How is A.I the FINAL technological advancement? Technology isn't unilateral.

>>719635803
This machine revolting myth is antiquated. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. It will not happen because we will integrate this technology with our own minds. Someday you will not be able to tell the difference between biological machines and machine machines. Why would we continue to use our human liver and heart and lungs and brain when we could build better ones.

>>719636075
I think he means that it is the last one that humans will have to make, because after that our smarter than us machines will do all the advancing, but he is kinda wrong anyway. See... >>719636087

>>719635971
I was an angry teenage virgin once, too.

>>719636454
^
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He is right, you know.

>>719630488
cool story bro, I hope 7th grade is going really well for you

>>719634407
Kek /thread

>>719636087
The argument is that if the AI programming of a machine tells it to do nothing but make more widgets, then it will eventually start destroying things around it in order to create more widgets.

>>719636798
see.
>>719632715

>>719636964
We are not stupid enough to make that mistake. Why would a machine that is millions of times smarter than us make a dumb ass mistake like that? Not to mention the first thing will will program it to do is to never harm people in any way.

>>719633859
yep pretty much this, not to mention the fact that paying equal salaries for unequally skilled positions devalues highly skilled workers and therefore reduces the quality or those workers. For an example, just look at the NHS in England or public schools in the US.

>>719636087
How soon do we have machines (in a potential danger sense) and how soon do we start integrating? What if I don't want to? Can I make it that far?

>>719634761
<3

>>719637220
2045
You don't have to if you don't want to. You are totally free to die of old age if you want... But you don't have to.

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>>719636964
mfw destroy things is synonymous with make things

>>719636213
I just can't see any part of society stemming from myself (my kin) ever going part machine or however it happens. I refuse to deny that humans will explore more scientific achievements after A.I. You can't stemmy the curious nature of our race so easily.

>>719637134
<3

>>719637177
A.I implies it thinks for itself. You can no longer determine it's conclusions. Thus, over time, machines should be able to do whatever they want with or without programming constraints you place on it.

>>719637436
Your right. We will still make advances, but it will be a collaboration between us and our machines. Technically it already is this way. Where the fuck would we be without the microscope?

ITT: unemployed parasites

>>719637337
Well, as long as I have the choice. I think I'd like to die, eventually. Do I get a fancy new body if I change my mind?

>>719637675
Yeah man. Most of us will chose to live on the cloud though. Why live in real reality when you can make your own reality that is indistinguishable from the real one... Also you can have super powers and shit, so i'm opting for this option.

>>719637598
well said anon /thread

When the economy crashes and Americans are living in ramshackle towns and tent cities, I wonder if they'll be called "Trumpvilles" like they were called "Hoovervilles" during the Depression.

>>719637675
Also you can live for a thousand years and if you feel like that's enough time then you can just stop taking your live forever pill, or whatever the actual mechanism is that your using to live forever.

>>719637842
How do you distinguish yourself? How do you separate your realities at that point? You each get your own little virtual nook? If it's like that I wouldn't want my consciousness to be a part of "the Conglomerate".

>>719638224
It wont be as scary, and uncertain as all that. You'll know exactly what your getting into before you do it, and you will be able to undue it just as easily. You can have your own you can visit other peoples, other people can visit yours, or you can hang out in one where lots of people chose to live. You can go back to the real world whenever you want.

>>719638469
Well isn't the future a nice utopia.

>>719638587
We're living in it now dude. That thing you are sitting in front of is one of the greatest things human beings have made. Look around you. everything you see is a miracle of human ingenuity, and every day we make newer cooler shit, and every day we take that shit for granted.

>>719634991
Yeah your right you can't have a diverse population for socialism to work and certainly not open border ideology.

>>719638860
I wouldn't call the world a utopia right now. It's pretty neat. Got a long ways to go yet.

>>719630293
Where do you get the resources to give everyone what they want?

>>719639124
If you were born 1,000 years ago. you might think differently. If you were born 100 years ago you might think differently.

>>719639289
But I wasn't. So I don't.

>>719639289
Same guy, do you work in a technology field? Study it? Just an inquisitive mind?

>>719639147
Full automation of everything. Soon you wont have to get up to get a soda, or wipe your ass, let alone go to a fucking job.

>>719639147
You don't supply wants. You supply needs. Humans need shelter, food, water, companionship, exercise, and study to be healthy. That's what you should supply and you should find the ingredients pretty readily. Luxury items are for people themselves to acquire.

>>719639427
lol I watched the documentary The Transcendent Man many years ago and i have be fascinated with technology every since. I spend most of my time on youtube learning everything i can about technology.

>>719639584
Do you really think we can give all of that to 8 billion people?

>>719640001
Not very easily, cooperatively, or even "right now".

>>719640311
So national socialism?

It is done, he is President.