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What came before the big bang?

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What came before the big bang?
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me
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Your mother
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>>719033598
there is no before the big bang
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>>719033598
The previous universe collapsing into a singularity.
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the big crunch
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>>719033598
ignition of course
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>>719033598
20 minutes of digital stimulation.
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>>719033598
time started with the big bang. it's like you are asking where the big bang was...
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>>719033598
The big foreplay
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>>719033598
i did
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>>719033598
a small bang
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>>719033598
the gang bang with your mum
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>>719033598
undefined
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>>719033598
Life is cyclical
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>>719033598
Matter in our parent universe that collapsed into a black hole and spawned ours.
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>came

quantum fluctuations.
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The Last Question was answered.
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why does something have to had come before? our brains don't understand the concept of not having a start and not having an end...it doesn't have to.
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>>719033598
Someone(thing) turning on the simulation
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Sub sub atomic particles.

One day, getting some of them cane together, and that proximity was enough for one to develop a charge. This charge caused all the other particles to congeal into a single point and all the heat and energy from that eventually overcame that charge and big boom!

Okay I made that up.

But it sounds good.
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>>719033598
That taxi driver, your mom didn't have the money YET, so she had to get to work SOMEHOW.
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>>719033598
A singularity of all matter that currently makes up the universe. For all we know, we're a black hole in another universe that exploded.
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>>719033925
How did the previous universe get there??
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>>719034094
http://multivax.com/last_question.html
Love that story
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>>719033598
Nobody knows. We don't even know if "before the big bang" is a valid question.
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>>719034172
Its always been there.
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>>719034172
the collapse of the universe before that
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>>719034172
a previous singularity
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the small talk
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Right before the Big Bang, there was nothing. Any questions?
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>>719033598
Ginnungagap.
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The Small Bang.
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>>719033598
This is a flawed question, called a loaded question. It has an assumption in it that cannot be made, we cant assume that there was something before the big bang and evidence shows that the time started at the big bang. Its called space-time for a reason, it was a singularity with no space, therefor no time either, to say something came before the big bang makes no sense.
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>>719034494
>and evidence shows that the time started at the big bang
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>>719034684
>quotes something
>doesnt say anything

what exactly are you trying to say? Or do you not even know?
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>>719034684
Are you re-iterating his point or do you dispute it?
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>>719033598
a fart
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>>719033855
dubs of justice. I wanted to post this.
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>>719034172
its the chicken first or egg first scenario
theres no answer
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For an interesting answer to OPs question watch "Einsteins greatest blunder" on Netflix. They suggest that the speed of light does change and could account for triggering of a big bang when the density of the universe is just right and explains how they can be cycled

>>719034494
Implying there was only on big bang
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>>719034241
tfw the whole universe is a FUCKING CIRCLE JERK
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>>719034781
>>719034798
we have no any evidences at all
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>>719033598
In my not-so-educated opinion probably an unimaginable realm of pure energy. A place where the laws of time and space simply don't exist because there is no space. This energy (or strings) randomly does something strange or combines with other energy to create massive explosions capable of converting energy into matter and creating various big bangs across the infinite energy field beyond our universe. We are just one of an infinite number of big bangs across this energy realm.
Could also explain the 'virtual' particles which simply appear and are destroyed in an instant; could be the energy from the background realm behind our universe bleeding through to ours and as that kind of pure energy cannot exist in a place where time and space exist then the energy becomes matter for a brief time.
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>>719033598
Everything came before it. It's like when you reverse a hourglass once all the sand has fallen, the sand just starts flowing in the opposite direction.

The real question here is when did it all started and the answer to that is: Time does not really exist. It's just something we perceive in this reality.

And the goal of life is to explore until we rediscover the point of origin for the first time again.
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>>719033598
there wasnt a "before"
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>>719034880
implying there was more, im not claiming anything, you are.
Now where is the evidence for your claim? Because as i see it, all the evidence points towards this universe ending in a big freeze and not a big crunch.

>>719034907
We do, you dont read much do you?
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>>719035009
>Time does not really exist. It's just something we perceive in this reality.
Time exists anon, there is a then and a now, and then is not the same as now, how we measure it though is relative to earth only tho
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>>719033598
A new generation of faggots
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>>719033598
big foreplay?
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The big bang is an explanation for a locality, not everything. Stop clinging to the narrow perceptions of human experience and begin learning about the wider expanse of the actual universe. We are not only 3 dimensional, we are just too inept to experience past it.
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>>719035053
>to say something came before the big bang makes no sense
Here you claim only one big bang and therefore one universe.

Everything in nature as we know it is based on cycles, why would this (the universe) be unique? I agree the universe is expanding so a big crush is out of the question. I watched a doc called "Einsteins greatest (or biggest) blunder" basically if the density of the universe is just right, the speed of light somehow changes and can trigger a big bang

I know I'm being vague but I'm only a biochemist, not a particle physicist and only watched the doc once. Check it out tho
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>>719033598
The Void.
God said "let there be light" and there was light. The Heavenly realms broke through the darkness of the primordial universe.

>inb4 edgy college athiest
Your BBT is a Catholic Cleric-Scientists brainchild(so you're actually following a devout religious man's word) who said he believes it brings them closer to understanding God and proves the scriptures right in that respect with a literal massive light creating everything.
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Question is, where did energy for bb come from. Maybe higher dimension beings can understand it amd find the answer, but our capabilities limited. But i perceive it as proof of higher dimensions.
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>>719033598
A previous universe that experienced heat death and eventually ran out of dark energy so it recollapsed onto its self, gaining speed and heat as it shrunk until it's immense speed and heat hit the near maximum density possible, causing an unstable point with edges completely surrounded by the edge of the known universe eventually exploded with extreme power causing the creation of energy (and dark energy) through gravity's quick, crushing and the odd physics on the plank scale, recreating itself. It's not rocket science you retard
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>>719033598
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>>719034876
Except there is evidence the egg came first
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>>719035705
the theory is a product of science, which is secular and doesnt require no magic or gods to work. We r in fact, following a secular point of view.
Newton was an alchemist.
Theres no god
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>>719035740
and you need to be at dimension+1, to fully look at dimension.
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>>719035623
why would the universe be unique? You cant claim that its not unique just because nothing else is.
While i agree that the doc is good and interesting, it doesnt mean its accurate, i cant even remember if it claims to be accurate.

To me saying there was another universe before this one is just like the god argument, a non-answer. Even if you were right it would just start another question, where did that universe come from?
And not only that, it also seems to be a forced answer made by people who cant stand not having an answer.
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>>719035740
>But i perceive it as proof of higher dimensions.
You're speculating it as such. It is not proof. It's just guesswork.
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>>719035996
That's why it "i percieve" and not "it's absolutely 1000% proof. Suck ma dick"
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>>719035740
The total energy of the universe is 0, so it could have come from nothing, depending on what you mean by nothing of course. Look up a universe from nothing by Lawrencer Krauss.
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>>719035855
Fish were laying eggs hundreds of millions of years before they evolved into chickens.
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>>719035966
If has to be a "non-answer" with out direct or indirect evidence/observations we will never know. The only real way is to be around when one happens
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>>719033992
true
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>>719036092
thats why u r wrong. Stop "perceiving" it like that
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>>719034172

The little bang
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>>719036092
It's not proof even if you stretch the definition. You shouldn't misuse the word proof.
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>>719036165
Then why would you even imply there was another universe before this one?
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>>719033598
The big foreplay. You've gotta have some nice foreplay before you bang.
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>>719035153
>Time exists anon, there is a then and a now, and then is not the same as now, how we measure it though is relative to earth only tho...

Are you certain it's not just your brain playing tricks on you?
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>>719036141
You're not wrong. It's just an illustration to show the silliness of the question.
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>>719033598
the previous kalpa

>2017
>not even knowing the cycle of transmigration
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>>719033598
Time doesnot exist
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>>719033598
>What came before the big bang?
the lighting of the 'big fuse'
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>>719036141
>>719035855

When i hear the question i assume we are talking about the eggs that the chicken came from and not just any eggs, tho the answer is still the egg.
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>>719036450
before chickens existed, an egg came along that produced a(n early) chicken. So yes, still eggs.
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>>719034907
>we have no any evidences at all
Ranjeet, surely its got to be way past bedtime in Bombay by now
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>>719036165
The best current evidence indicates our universe will spread out infinitely into whatever it is its spreading out into. There is little to no indicators to suggest that the expansion will ever stop and reverse in on itself. Whether or not there was a previous universe that underwent a "big crunch" to set up the conditions for the big bang, our universe will not be doing it.

Since our universe is the only one we have to study, and it will likely not collapse in on itself, the evidence, such as it is, suggests thats not how ours began.
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>>719036432
Read over here -->
>>719035009
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>>719033598
The big dang.
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>>719033598
>What came before the big bang?
your mom
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>>719033598
Foreplay?
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>>719036450
Something that was very very close to but not quite a chicken laid an egg. Its mutated offspring was the first chicken. Egg came first.
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>>719036534
>before chickens existed, an egg came along
>an egg came along
riiiight...
Well that makes sense then?!
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the big foreplay
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>>719033598
The Big Dinner and a Movie
The Couple o Big Cocktails Back at My Big Place
Playing some big Tony Bennett tunes on the Big Stereo
Some Big Foreplay...
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>>719033598
the gnab gib

its like a big bang, but backwards
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>>719036313
Because of observations of natures cycles. Space has to follow natural laws and I don't think the universe is special. Having one universe to me makes it special, something different, to me this leaves more room for magical space wizards. But obviously the cycle had to start somewhere somehow. I don't have that answer, I haven't put in the research and a previous Big Bang would be nearly impossible to detect. We can see/hear microwave energy from the latest Big Bang and energy from any previous Big Bang would be so red shifted it would be hard to detect even if it was in our cosmic horizon
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>>719036673
An egg came along, produced by its ancestors of course. It didn't just magically pop into existence you doofus. Don't be daft.
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>>719036716
how many other, or previous universes have u observed?
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>>719036716
>Space has to follow natural laws
You dont seem to know much about quantum physics, go watch "a universe from nothing" lecture by Lawrence Krauss.
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>>719036751
You really aren't explaining yourself very well anon
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>>719036558
I never once said the universe would/needs to collapse to create another big bang thanks for trying tho
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>>719036896
You forgot to add "universes that aren't a figment of your imagination". Otherwise you'll get Deepak Chopra tier answers.
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>>719036558
Everytime we thought we understood nature, it sent us a curveball that redefined our understanding of it.

We are far too primitive in our understanding of the universe to make any concrete statements like "It cannot recollapse". For all we know the ever acretion of black holes changes the density of dark energy to a point where it just might realign something and reverse everything. Not suggesting that is true, or even makes sense, but there are no concrete facts that suggest the universe will expand into heat death... only theories. Primative theories.
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>>719036950
I didn't think it needed explaining that eggs come from parent animals.
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>>719036960
wouldnt that make it "imagine", instead of "observe", since observations r verifiable?
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>>719036926
Kek, I bet I understand the quantum world better than you. I haven't both grad and undergrad classes in quantum mechanics
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What came before God?
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>>719033598
The big erection.
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>>719033598

The small bang
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>>719036950
You're pretty slow on the uptake, aren't you, anon?
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>>719033598
Much youthful masturbation.
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>>719037078
Druggies and what not observe universes in their imagination all the time. Can't say that those observations are replicable and have any basis in reality but from my experience with them, they usually don't care for replication or falsifiability lol
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>>719037086
undergrad quantum taught me that we barely get quantum mechanics
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>>719036896
None, read the last two lines I wrote in the post you are replying too

But if you are going that route, how many individual atoms have you personally seen? How many quarks? Do they not exist because YOU haven't seen them?
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The cosmic loaf of bread
I think this theory is outdated
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>>719037263
those r not universes, though
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>>719037279
Than you learned nothing
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>>719033598
the big foreplay
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>>719037280
atoms and quarks r testable, while other universes r not
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>>719035852
Or.
Other brains coming tinto contact with each other at higher domensional scales.

Or.
Quantum expansion through Heisenberg.
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>>719033598
the small bang
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLFs4vir_WsTwEd-nJgVJCZPNL3HALHHpF&params=OAFIAVgK&v=4_aOIA-vyBo&mode=NORMAL no.3 bitch
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>>719037308
I know but in their perception it is and in their perception that is evidence. I agree with you, but to save you time it's better to establish conditions for something to be verifiable than to waste your time trying to debunk their shitty hypotheses they came up with while high on peyote or some shit.
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>>719037347
Which doesn't mean we eventually wont detect another universe...if they exist
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>>719037357
>Other brains coming tinto contact with each other at higher domensional scales
Explain
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>>719037280
Atoms and quarks have been observed, if not by us personally, by other scientists and these observations can be verified by anyone.
Things not existing and us not seeing things are two different issues, but you can't just assume something exists if you don't have the evidence to back it up. There is evidence for quarks and atoms. Not for your hypothesis. (Extrapolating known processes to apply to universes is not valid evidence, that's a comparison fallacy)
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>>719037506
once we detect another universe - then its the time to believe in it.
>>719037457
but thats no evidence at all. All u need to say is that its drugs and they cant say u r wrong
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>>719033598
The big foreplay.
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>>719037286
The theory says that universes pop into existence when branes (membranes) collide and all the branes are arranged in a stack like a loaf of bread. This theory is from like the 80s so I'm sure it's totally wrong.
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>>719037573
>its a vulcan thing

Did you learn nothing from star trek anon?
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>>719033598
false vacuum
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>>719037347
At one time scientists didn't believe in atoms/sub atomic particles until new theories, technology and experiments were done. No reason to close the door on the multiverse just yet anon. Unless you have proof this is the only universe ever?
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The big bang itself is the beginning of space and time, there is no such thing as "before", because time itself came into existence with the big bang.

I understand what you're asking though, and the answer to your question would simply be: "The cause of the big bang". That's what is "before" or "behind" the big bang.
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>>719033598
The big foreplay?
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>>719033855
/thread
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>>719037730
so design an experiment, that shows multiple universes.
Heres my proof of this universe being the only 1: we have no proof of any more. Why would i believe there is more?
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>>719033598
The big blow job?
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>>719033598
>inb4 sauce
Katerina Stankova
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>>719037913
Because its a logical line of enquiry. That has some mathematical merit.

If people didnt imagine new hypothesis to investigate then we would all still be sat around a campfire wondering where the sun went.
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>>719037637
The multiverse theory is a popular theory among academically trained physicists

>Extrapolating known processes to apply to universes is not valid evidence, that's a comparison fallacy
Scientists extrapolate their theories all the time. Do you really think it does happen?
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>>719037673
I never watched star trek, I thought we were having an intelligent conversation
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>>719037646
I'm just giving a heed of warning. If you go at them this route, you'll only piss off the ones you're trying to convince because they'll feel you're changing the terms of condition after they've already given their "evidence" and thus in their eyes you're moving the goalpost (even though their evidence is not evidence). If you establish conditions beforehand, they can't say you're moving the goalposts.

Once more, I am in complete agreement with you that it's not evidence, but trying to argue with someone who's already convinced of something they've accepted without proper scientifically-minded rigor requires some delicate ways of steering the conversation. Establishing conditions beforehand helps with that, given that people who are convinced of hypotheses without evidence often mistake hunches or experiences for evidence.
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>>719033598
God's burrito
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>>719038023
so design an experiment, that shows more universes
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>>719038048
Extrapolating is not evidence. Extrapolating can be done as a ways of experimenting and giving a sense of direction on where to look for evidence, but it is not evidence.
"Watches are made by watchmakers" does not extrapolate to "rivers are made by rivermakers". We know how watches are made by people, because we have observational evidence of people making watches. And we know how rivers are formed by changes in the environment, because we have observational evidence of rivers forming.
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>>719036123
Holy shit I'm familiar with that anon. Pretty neat.
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>>719037913
Look for light energy that is even more red shifted than the cosmic microwave background. Even though I imagine that that energy would have been pushed out of the way when the new universe expanded. Really we need to see outside the cosmicalogical horizon. Which is impossible so we will prob will never know
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>>719038235
Cant be done yet.

Doesnt mean we should dismiss or stop investigating it. Yet.
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>>719038343
Doesn't mean we should assume it to be true either.
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GOD because GOD wants PEDOPHILES to EXIST

Pedophiles 1
Atheists 0
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>>719038065
im pretty sure if i showed them the "pre-written" dictionary, where it says what an observation is, that wouldnt be "moving the goalpost"
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>>719033598
the most likely scenario is the "big crunch" of the universe that was here before ours. sooner or later, gravity wins out over the initial kinetic energy of the big bang and the universe starts falling back in on itself, creating a singularity which then explodes again to form the next universe.
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>>719033598
If you believe in the expansion-contraction theory, a big crunch
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>>719038384
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>>719038412
You'd be surprised how little people know the formal definitions. Hence the phrase "It's just a theory" is still being thrown around.
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>>719038384
No one is saying "there are multiverses"

Unless they are idiots.

People are proposing quite feasable concepts for multiverses and simply having the discussion. Bouncing ideas is what made us what we are.
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>>719038323
u imagine an energy wouldve been pushed away by radio waves of lower energy, than microwaves and u somehow know its been done by a different universe, thats a closed system not interacting with other closed systems?
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>>719033855

lmao rekt
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>>719038503
i wouldnt be surprised - i know it. Thats why we have dictionaries. And printed, too, so u cant just say "no, but language changes and no1 uses that word like that anymore", cuz some1 updated a wiki entry.
I rly dont like how the non-dead languages "change" - they change, cuz dumb fucks dont know the meaning of words and use them wrong and propagate that in their group of idiots, which is the majority of society
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>>719038521
Finding evidence of ideas and applying it in practice is what made us what we are. Finding evidence of how gravity works and that rockets can be propelled to the moon is what made us land on the moon. Not the bouncing of ideas. (At least, not simply the bouncing of ideas)

Don't get me wrong, bouncing ideas is great to come up with hypotheses but they're not necessarily indicative of anything in reality.
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>>719034328
No shit, sherlock
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>>719036650
it depends entirely on whether you define "chicken egg" as "egg from which a chicken hatches" or "egg laid by a chicken".
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>>719035861
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>>719038921
Right. But before any evidence can be gathered someone needs to have an idea that leads to the search for answers.

Multiverse is sufficiently supported in theoretical mathematics and physics that is warrants further investigation.

Its a good, if still largely unsupported, hypothesis.
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>>719038621
Red shift means shifting to lower energy. The previous universes remaining energy, if it existed, would have to be more red shifted then the already red shifted cosmic wave background from our Big Bang. Because of inflation this older energy could have been displaced but since it would outside our cosmological horizon we prob will never detect it
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>>719033598
dirty bitch
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>>719038921
YOU.
I like you.
You correctly pluralized hypotheses. You are probably the second smartest person in this thread.
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>>719039197
Behind you of course.
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>>719039121
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>>719039132
No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean that at all.
Things that are moving away from you have the wavelength of their light stretched by the fact that they're moving away from you. Things that are moving toward you have the wavelength of their light compressed by the fact that they're moving toward you.
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>>719033598
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>>719039132
what makes u think a new universe appeared within an old one, instead of next to it?
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>>719039302
No im the smartest person in this thread.
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>>719039121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2quonm59Kc
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>>719038921
>Finding evidence of how gravity works
So anon How does gravity work exactly, because physicists don't even know. So it must also be a lie

>Finding evidence of how gravity works and that rockets can be propelled to the moon is what made us land on the moon. Not the bouncing of ideas. (At least, not simply the bouncing of ideas)
Oh I forgot 4chan is where people go to publish ideas of science
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>>719039444
Einstein Cartan theory
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>>719033598
>what came before spacetime existed
Go back to elementary you dumbass.
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>>719039444
>within an old one, instead of next to it
No, no.
The new universe was created because of the old one, not next to it. Universes aren't "things" they're events.
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>>719033598
The nigger-god got pulled over by the cop-god. You can guess the rest of the legend.
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>>719039522
>The theory relaxes the assumption[further explanation needed] that the affine connection has vanishing antisymmetric part (torsion tensor), so that the torsion can be coupled to the intrinsic angular momentum (spin) of matter, much in the same way in which the curvature is coupled to the energy and momentum of matter. >In fact, the spin of matter in curved spacetime requires that torsion is not constrained to be zero but is a variable in the principle of stationary action.

Regarding the metric and torsion tensors as independent variables gives the correct generalization of the conservation law for the total (orbital plus intrinsic) angular momentum to the presence of the gravitational field.
nope
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>>719039501
>because physicists don't even know
FALSE.
Physicists have known HOW it works for centuries. WHY it works is another matter altogether. And some of us do actually know why it works, but it will take some time for the explanation to be widely accepted and even more time for the general public to drop the idea of it being unexplained (especially since most of them won't be able to understand the explanation).
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>>719034172
Because there was nothing that said it couldn't be there
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>>719039605
so its the same energy always. Theres no "remaining"
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>>719034009
Underrated post
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>>719033598
the whole universe was sucked into a black hole
all compressed n shit
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>>719037952
Thanks.
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>>719039501
I think you're mistaking the question of "what is gravity?" for "how does gravity work?". We have decent enough approximations of how gravity works to utilize it to go to space and maintain orbit. What gravity is, we don't know yet.
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>>719033598
God you stupid asshat. What we call the big bang he calls the big load.
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>>719039372
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>>719039449
No I'm spartacus
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>>719039759
>nobel prize winner detected

...on 4chan
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>>719039857
>usa
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>>719039444
next to it would still effect it dumb dumb

>>719039428
yes when talking about star motion
The actually physics is that light with shorter wavelength is higher in energy than light with long wavelengths. The energy from the big bang is so old that is have red shifted to mircowave wavelengths, much less energy than it originally had. Now I am saying since the previous big bang would have to be older than ours, its remaining energy from its own big bang would be much less (more red shifted) than ours because of age alone
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>>719039857
>also so u r implying u r in the opposition of me, by not having higher education
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>>719033598
You , you pre ejeculating ptsd filled fuck boy, or you know nothing because space n science doesn't exist according to "the christians"
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>>719039899
no, it wouldnt
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>>719039759
How does it work anon, please explain? How do gravity actually pull or push us or mass onto the earth?
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>>719039960
would would two energies next to each other not interact?
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>>719040072
why would
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>>719034318
underrated post. some muscles around my mouth twitched a little.
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>>719039896
Not only
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the Cosmic Shame
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>>719039759
>especially since most of them won't be able to understand the explanation
Try me, I have a masters in chemistry and taken some courses in quantum mechanics
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>>719039979
>also curious
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>>719040072
>next to
>in space or time
>2 universes being separate spaces and times
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>>719040154
That comes after
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>>719033598
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>>719033622

you've always come too soon.
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>>719039979
I'll use the elementary-school explanation and spare you a lot of abstract mathematics:

the existence of matter causes strain on the fabric of spacetime. imagine a bowling ball sitting on a trampoline, spacetime is curved by the presence of matter. while the size of the ball may be minute compared to the size of the trampoline, the affect that it has on the fabric covers the entire trampoline.

Place a second bowling ball on the trampoline and the two balls will invariably roll toward each other, because the closer they are the more their gravitational fields will overlap and therefore the less total stress is expressed on the fabric.

the distortion around each ball is their gravitational field. the tendency of the two balls to be pushed toward each other is gravity.
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>>719040530
ZOMG. Why didnt someone think of that sooner?

You are my new personal god.
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>>719040286
this is where our fundamental views of the universe or multiverse diverge. IMO the difference between universe A and universe B is the same as the differences between galaxy a and galaxy b. The universes in the multiverse, again IMO, reside in the same space but due to shear scale and distances seem to separate or their own entity. Because they reside in the same space (not the same coordinates or overlapping or anything) but like a cluster of soap bubbles
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>>719040634
then u r clearly wrong
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>>719034876
I think the answer is that a circle has no beginning.
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>>719040530
Im pretty sure everyone here understands einsteins explanation of gravity and space-time. What I was asking is how that interaction occurs? How does gravity interact with matter to give this observation
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>>719040849
such sophistry
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>>719039444
Trips Fairy has noticed you friendo.
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>>719039777
Trips Fairy has noticed you friendo.
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the human brain was evolved to survive/reproduce/find food on earth. To apply words like "Before" to the big bang and understand what happened, you are better off believing in the giant invisible human pack alpha being who lives in space
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>>719040771
cool story /b/ro care to discuss why? Because the multiverse being like a "cluster of soap bubbles" is a major competing theory, i thought
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>>719040634
Each black hole can contain a new universe. Where ours tends to infinity, the new ones tend to zero.

Its mathematically valid.

The multiverse soup is all around us.
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>>719041010
Gravity does no interact with matter. Matter interacts with the fabric of spacetime. Gravity is an event, not a force.
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>>719041055
This pissing shit again ?
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>>719041174
Confirmed for utter failure to comprehend what a "black hole" is. Go back to your 60's sci-fi comic books, you don't belong here.
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>>719041258
Series 4
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>>719041182

>Gravity is an event, not a force
what are the four fundamental forces?
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>>719033598
a big crunch
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>>719041265
Its a point in space where the density of matter breaks down the laws of physics and things tend to a singularity.

And you are adding nothing to the discussion
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>>719041423

God the Father
God the Son
and God the Holy Spirit

Its the only 3 you need to know unless you wear funny hats and have no success with females
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>>719041142
universe isnt like a galaxy and u still have to show more universes on top of meta-universe
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>>719033598
10/10 pussy sauce?
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>>719033598
Nothing. It isn't that nothing existed, but nothing was moving. Nothing was happening.

Which means that there was no time. Time is the movement of objects through space.

So if there's no such thing as time, then there's no such thing as before the big bang. Tahdah.
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>>719041511
fag
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>>719041511
lolno - Odin
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>>719041637
Said fag
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>>719033598
according to one theory about 6 other universes and big bangs, why is this?
who knows maybe god was drunk
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>>719041511
>>719041728
brings up god in a science discussion
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Spiderman thread ! Lets go !
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>>719041617
Kathy Lee
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>>719041868
This one is getting wrote down! Thank you Anon!
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>>719041607
huh? universes are not directly like a galaxy. I was just saying universe occupy the same greater space as each other and are not separate entities that can not interact
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>>719041807
God is the one who created all this stuff. How can you study it and at the same time deny Him? Doesn't that just make you a retard?
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>>719041777
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>>719033598
The big fore play?
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kim joun une
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>>719041950
changing the subject to god because you know the four fundamental forces include gravity. Doesn't that just make you a retard?
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>>719034009
GG, Anon. Beat me to it.
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>>719041861
Might as well. Our resident nobel prize winner isnt delivering his gravity proof and from hereon in it will just be piles of shitposting from clueless retards.
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>>719034494
How would you ask the same question faggot?
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>>719042033
The person who DISCOVERED GRAVITY was a believer in God, you dense dumbshit
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>>719040467
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>>719042098
It doesn't matter how you ask it. Nothing came before the big bang. The big bang began time.
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>>719033598

God.

Whatever you want to call creation, it all was caused by God.
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>>719033983
Mind = blown
Fag I'm high, don't hit me with the big guns
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>>719042126
Ikr. Whodve thunk the very first reply won the thread?
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>>719041929
how do u know?
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>>719042105
Plenty of smart people believe in stupid shit. Plenty of people who discovered something to be true believe in things that are false.
No person is infallible
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>>719042235
what was before the creation?
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>>719042105
and an alchemist. Guess alchemy rly works, right? How come u didnt transmute lead into gold and didnt buy enough food to end world hunger?
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>>719042235
what created god?
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>>719042105
Newton also believe is substances that could turn anything into gold and took baths in mercury

Einstein didnt even like quantum mechanics at first but that doesnt mean its wrong
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Well assuming we live in a multiverse where big bangs occur as a result of outward expansion by one universe that's what happened before
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>>719042485
We did ;)
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>>719042485
Is this another chicken / egg thing?

Coz ima need to eat something soon and probably couldnt handle that
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>>719042359
I dont, thats why i used "IMO" in my original reply here>>719040634
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>>719042605
is it? What created god?
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>>719042548
Asuming we're just making shit up, that sounds legit.
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>>719042365
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>>719042430
Technically you can do that. There's just no point since it's s expensive to do.
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>>719039857
What this indicates is that someone is mad that they aren't smart enough to cut it at a university so they blame the teachers, instead of the parents, for the behavior of the college going, economy building generation that's making their way of life obsolete.
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>>719042728
Sorry for not believing in every belief every major discoverer has.
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>>719042605
There is no proper evidence of god or similar until we made one. Until we ge some solid facts that are repeatable we can call us as the creators of invisible boogeymen.

Even though it is existential and circle in thought when you try and figure out what happened before the before. We still shouldn't fill in blanks with bullshit made up answers.
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>>719033598
Huj
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>>719034118
Exactly
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>>719042728
No need for a fedora meme here meme lord, what that dude said is true.
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>>719042647
u didnt convince me to your opinion
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>>719042755
>this fuck said alchemy works
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>>719033598
This is gonna blow your mind but as far as we know its just one big bang cycle after another. Which doesn't suggest "the universe" actually dies. It just recreates itself.
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>>719034235
So it's fine for the universe and matter and all of that to have always been there, but God can't have always been there?
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>>719043163
Fuck off nigger
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>>719042755
>turning Pb to Au is expensive
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>>719043275
There's no proof of God outside of your feelings so... yes.
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>>719043218
nor did you>>719042359
>>719041607
>>719040771
>>719040286
>>719039960
>>719039899
im still looking for your argument to refute mine, all i can find is where you dont understand red shifts when it comes to the energy of light
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>>719043275
Well there is evidence that the universe is there.
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>>719042755
>>719043250
>>719043329
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>>719043303
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>>719043358
I meant this post >>719039428 not his one >>719039899
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>>719033598
>reminder that a Catholic priest came up with The Big Bang
>so it's probably just as wrong as Catholicism
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>>719043443
reminder a monk started our understanding of hereditary and genetics but he have must be wrong too
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>>719043358
>the universe we experience is the only 1 we know of
>its not a default position - u need to convince me there r no more universes
convince me spiderman doesnt catch criminals in ny
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>>719033598
a big cock
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>>719043250
>>719043329
>>719043391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation

educate yourselves retards
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>>719043275
The big crunch isn't really the most accepted theory about the big bang, it's just a hypothesis. But to answer your question matter and energy can technically come from "nothing" without violating physics. It's very likely that the net energy on the universe is 0 actually.
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>>719043443
Charles Darwin was a priest wasn't he?
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>>719036714

Sounds like a big lie.
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>>719043569
http://www.space.com/18811-multiple-universes-5-theories.html

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/can-physicists-ever-prove-multiverse-real-180958813/

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160318-why-there-might-be-many-more-universes-besides-our-own
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the big fart
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>>719043691
>equating half-life to alchemy
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>>719033598
With this crowd, probably a couple of roofies and some rope
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>>719043834
>we have a couple of ideas, but we have no proof for any
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>>719033598
Probably another universe if the bubble theory is right.
It's also possible that our universe always compress into a singularity and expands in a big bang, which makes the lifetime of our universe endless.
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>>719033598
How I met your mother came first
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>>719033598
Jesus
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>>719033598
Foreplay.
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>>719043991
When did i ever say alchemy was real? i just said you could technically turn lead into gold. 2/10 trying to hard.
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>>719033598
Drinks with Bill Cosby?
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>>719044287
If that were true it would happen one atom at a time. Care to guess how many atoms of gold in an ounce?
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Harambe
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>>719040080
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>>719044106
because of the limitations current technology
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