Going to college is looked down upon by many in the U.S. That's why they elected the Orange man--he will deport the Mexicans who "STOLE" all the unskilled labor jobs. Many are incapable of being self-sufficient and lack the skills to get a good job, so they need the president to essentially bail them out, rather than having those Americans take personal responsibility and fend for themselves.
>>718837917 That's politics in general, the fact politicians are so sensitive that being politically incorrect and using non-political language is frowned upon shows how inefficient governments are with their red-tape.
>>718836455 They also think they're the only ones with freedom, which is hilarious, because most western countries are more free than they are.
I mean, they get lots of weapons, and their number one cause of bankruptcy is their own healthcare system, and their educational system is the most expensive on earth through sheer corruption. That's one hell of a tradeoff.
>>718836579 Well, they are a superpower. I mean they outspend the next 26 countries combined don defense... but imagine if they took half of that, even a quarter of that, and spent it on their people...
Anyone have anything substantial other than petty name calling? It's because of your safe space mentality bullshit while demonizing all white males that got him elected. You sound worse than everyone who bitched when Obama was elected.
Not at all. I just feel sorry for you that you've bought into the lie that big toys mean you're the biggest power. Please, go ahead and keep wasting people's money on symbols of past wars. When you are knocked off the crumbling pedestal you've placed yourselves on, they rest of the world will breathe a sigh of relief that you'll no longer feel justified in starting shit in other countries.
>>718844217 See, it's funny that you say that, because despite your sensationalized american bullshit, you shoot more of your own people in one week than all the terrorist attacks combined in the past 16 years have killed in all of Europe.
You're so terrified of a headline that you've lost all reason. ISIS is losing, the middle east is more or less the only area they've made any progress in, and terrorism is up there with lightning strikes and deaths by meteor for frequency in the western world.
The you more fuckjobs walking around talking about Hillary wants sharia law (which makes no goddamn sense) and how obama is a secret muslim who built isis (apparently before he even got the office of president).
The muslims aren't your enemy. American stupidity is your enemy.
In 2004, the US re-elected George W. Bush. Not by a small margin either. His electoral support went up dramatically. It's hard to beat this stupidity.
>Americans vote for Donald Trump See, this time around things are different. Bush won re-election because people voted for him who didn't vote for him in 2000. This time, Trump won election because rather than vote for Clinton, people who voted for Obama choose not to vote at all. They did this not because of their own stupidity, but because the DNC shit the bed.
>>718844724 omg >talks shit on america >is from canada this conversation is over your country is the biggest group of fucking pussy faggots i have ever had to deal with in the business world your welcome for letting every piece of shit canada has to offer into La cuz every canadian knows you dont go to canada to make money in the movie business
>>718844509 Well actually I don't choose how the "tax" money stolen from me is used. I figure if in ratio we have that many aircraft carriers compared to everyone else, our other shits probably on par too.
I tell you one thing though, I bet my life almost literally on it, after Operation Paperclip, building 800 "FEMA" camps across the united States, and a variety of other fucked events, I guarantee you in WWIII, the United States will be the next Germany and the way they play, there's a strong chance they may succeed. Or surrender to Russia and/or China.
The United States twisted government knows what they're doing.
WWIII will be the final war before a single government and the US isn't going down without a fight.
It scares the living fuck out of me, but I assure you this.
>>718844722 >His electoral support went up dramatically.
No, it didn't. Unless you call cheating by 5 electoral votes vs cheating by 34 electoral votes "dramatic". Biased conservative judges stopping a recount in Florida he was sure to lose vs phony votes in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Face it, your system of selecting a national leader is not just "flawed", it's a laughingstock.
The republicans are going to use trump to do their shit and by the next elections they'll blame him to wash their image. The only purpose of this is to keep the wealthy as they are, while all of us keep working as proud slaves shouting ''muh Freedom'' and blaming other nations for everything bad that happens to us.
>>718845162 Okay, New York, LA, Louisiana, Seattle, Portland, Orlando... pretty much every state in the US I've been to on business at least a few times... never Idaho or Wyoming, so you have me there if that's the true America.
Driven Montana, spent time In DC. I've probably seen more of your nation than you have at this point.
Sorry man, but Americans are arrogant as fuck, and yes, that goes double for the south.
>>718845365 Well, we have superior healthcare, better education, a higher standard of living, better social programs, a better reputation (especially now)
And are you serious? Do you know how many films and television shows are produced here in BC? Like half the places you envision from your favorite shows are in fact filmed in vancouver.
Dude, you live in a nation slipping back into the dark ages. We had chipped debit cards like 8 years before you, and I haven't seen a signed credit card slip in like a decade in my country despite the fact I was signing shit in your like 3 months ago.
You're behind, and while you do lead the world in some categories, none of them are good.
>>718845516 lol so youve spent some time in some states? you are arrogant as fuck thats not enough time to know people i can name all the places ive been to canada that doesnt mean i know you guys enough to judge why have you spent so much time here? because everyone has to come here for business why is that? why isnt everyone traveling to canada for business? lol
>>718844527 Actually niggers shoot more people than anyone else and in fact they shoot more niggers than anyone else too.
I'll be the first one to say that the US needs to stay out of other countries issues. You see its cucks like you that actually believe that the American people have a say in what our government does. Look at what the DNC did during the election. They like to only give the illusion that they give a fuck about the people , while actually doing what ever the EU and UN cucks want us to do. I would like nothing more then to let the rest of the world fend for themselves. If a government isn't strong enough to defend their own people then they need to be replaced.
>>718845835 >when every canadian mentions vancouver youve visited enough of our great cities to know we are more developed and have better cities period your welcome for every good movie youve ever watched and every song thats on your faggot ass ipod
>>718845516 Im an american and have lived overseas. America is definetly dumber thats for sure. I think in general the south gives us a bad name. Over 30% believe the book of genesis is non fiction and the earth is 6000 years old. That tells you something.
>>718846236 lol ok so yeah case and point you come to america to make money not canada you come to america to make movies not canada you come to america to make music not canada enjoy your chips in debit cards faggot im sure that was really hard to do considering you have a smaller are of populated space
>>718846299 Yes I agree. But our solders get sent in to places where we have to help some weak ass government to protect its people. Like I said. I would rather let the rest of the world defend themselves while we work on fixing out backyard.
most people believe that the majority of trump supporters are retarded rednecks with make america great again hats on.they dont understand that 95 percent of donald trump's supporters are hard working americans who are tired of having to support the welfare scum voting for people like obama and hillary
>>718836262 I think Americas stupidity ties in with narcissism and arrogance. Americans dont give a shit about on another and barely have empathy for anyone else. They take the motto of looking out for number one to a whole new level.
This leads to political decisions that are stupid and not benefitial because of stupid narcissits making decisions. They dont understand they live in a society.
A cause for this lack of empathy and narcissism is probably due to the fact that Americans arent a unified ethnicity. Its harder to get people to work for the greater good if it means giving something up to help a nigger, a muslim or some sort of spic when you're a white man of english heritage.
>>718846869 its just funny that everyone sucks americans dicks through music and movies and business but they judge our politics like they know us so well i'm not a patriotic person most no one i know could be called "patriotic" but my country is constantly the topic on everyones mouths its just hilarious you guys are in denial
>>718846377 It's amazing how many people call for revolution in the USA, but they can't imagine what that would really mean. Not that Canada is any less pampered, but we don't have the same idealized version of war.
I love American history books though, they're so goddamn dramatic. The fight against the evil british, the heroic fight against other americans, the heroic invasions of nations overseas.
Americans don't understand how they're seen worldwide. I mean Saddam was an asshole, but bush and his fucking fake WMD bullshit created the power vacuum that let isis seize real power... I mean until Bush came along they were a fringe group that Saddam beat up once every few months for shits and giggles.
In the middle east, most regular people see the USA as an aggressive invader who couldn't care less about the innocent people their drones slaughter.
And then some american guy on facebook asks the question "why don't the muslims stand up to the terrorists with us if they aren't terrorists themselves".
Because they think you're goddamn supervillains who want to kill them all.
Morons.This is how the world works >power=money*corruption/honesty >money=arrogance*selfishness/niceness Trump is arrogant selfish ,rude and yyuuuuggee asshole so he has more power More power=more chance to win the elections. Its simple math and logic
>>718846144 I don't think you quite understand how the US' influence is maintained. Not that I agree with every operation or every base the US has, but if the US withdrew from the world, that vacuum would be filled by weaker, less trustworthy, less benign, and/or less predictable actors.
>>718846208 >World's top universities >Top STEM and Medical programs >Tops the world in patents >Media production/books
I've met dumb-a-rocks Germans that are irrationally afraid of nuclear power, dumb-as-rocks Frenchmen that bought into the Zeitgeist meme, and dumb-as-rocks Italians that think the Earth is flat.
The real problem with the US, especially the South, is a certain subset of people that have been plaguing the US since its founding, and should have been repatriated or deported centuries ago.
>>718846629 Losing side? Not really. We got rid of most of our guns and pretty much ended mass shootings and cut down the average casualties per act of mass violence by about 70%. You lead the developed world in both.
Wouldn't call that a loss, really. It's kind of nice.
>>718846718 >But our solders get sent in to places where we have to help some weak ass government to protect its people.
I dont think those soldiers are sent to protect the people in other countries, I don't buy that. Also i dont entirely agree with you, i think the workers and those who dont make the systems' rules should defend each other regardless of nationality.
>>718847210 it's inevitable if a country is that polarizing i mean we are talking a country that if it wanted could go on and nuke the planet it constantly makes decisions affecting the allies in less then optimal ways and it acts like the retarded rich kid in school screaming i am the bestest
there is no denial there are good things coming out of many shitholes that doesn't change the fact that they are shitholes
>>718847653 this has been said over and over and over again about every president that america has elected the sad truth is that no absolutely nothing is going to change just like nothing ever drastically changes presidents dont have the power thinks they do america will be on auto pilot for 4 years but ill be sure to let every country in the world to keep me updated on whats going on in my government Do we ever see posts on /b/ about who canada elected? no no one gives a fuck about who any other country elects whats that saying? no press is bad press?
>>718836262 Call it whatever you want. The beauty of living is the best county in the world is not having to give a fuck about what some faggot foriegner thinks about my country. Go back to fucking goats or eating nasty cheese or wearing shitty coloquiel lederhosen... whatever the fuck you ppl in inferior countries do.
>>718847854 Why are you so focused on cities? The electoral college is divided by state, not city. I was responding to your initial suggestion that you voted for Trump as a vote against people on welfare. I showed you that is incorrect because the people who voted Trump into office ARE the people on welfare.
>>718847945 Canada, actually. We used to have guns everywhere too. Australia did as well.
It's not just about the rate of mass violence though, when you lose the guns you have fewer hurt or killed. A guy with a knife CAN kill 30 people, but it's 100x more unlikely then if he has a semi-auto rifle that can slaughter a room.
No guns means less effective criminals, it means less need for lethal countermeasures when arresting them, and honestly, our decrease is way beyond your own over time.
Nobody is saying gun control will end all mass violence, but it makes it less effective. It also immediately dropped our rate of successful suicides by about 25% because, let's face it, it's the quickest way to go.
Most people who try to commit suicide once and either fail or stop short go on to better things, so you'd save a few thousand per year there alone.
>>718847704 > i mean we are talking a country that if it wanted could go on and nuke the planet >and it acts like the retarded rich kid in school screaming i am the bestest talking about an entire country of millions of people like its a single body of decision making you guys are so uneducated there is no logic here
World War 2 - Naval Marshal General Isoroku Yamamoto said 2 great quotes about America
1) I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. (this was after the attack on Pearl Harbor)
2) You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
And that's why we haven't been invaded, because we will set your country back decades. He'll look at Germany, they are the complete opposite of when Hitler was in power. If he didn't go genocidal crazy he could have controlled the world.
>>718845479 Yes, a dramatic increase in support. Going from barely being elected and only getting by because of corrupt judges in 2000, to having a margin of victory wide enough in both electoral votes and popular vote that it's hard to blame entirely on cheating. Florida in particular gave him 52:47.
>your system of selecting a national leader is not just "flawed", it's a laughingstock. Oh? Not a fan of Justin Trudeau?
Wow, bros getting the attention now eh? Yah went and done did it. They all thick in here now, got graphics an everthang with their big ole "Co-op those darn kids over at 4chan all the way! Own that thing or destroy it!" Oldsters can recognize you ya know. Sometimes it's not even the specific so practiced words you use or even if you think you are really in the anon mind zone. Many of us are so tuned into vibe of this medium we can feel you ain't right and Debil u a liah!
Logic+Common Sense+Circumstantial Evidence = Truth
>>718847614 It's like this. Our solders are sent over because someone is being invaded by some shit like ISIS. They are also sent over to protect bullshit interests of large corps. The people do not say send them over nor does the military. It is the corrupt politicians that do that shit. The UN and the EU will say we need to protect this cuck country because that country said we need help. Because the US pays the most into the UN and we tend to have to send the most solders they tell the US that as a member you need to support this decision. So our troupes get sent over to get killed while the EU and US hold the suck off circle jerk. I only hope we get the fuck out of the UN and tell the EU to fuck off.
>>718836262 >be every other country in the world >know about americas laws >know whos americas president >know every american movie >know every american musician >know every american show >know americas cities >know americas politics >know americas latest news >TALK ABOUT IT ALL FOR DAYS
>>718836262 what like Hilary Clinton is any better? and all you countries can't stop talking about USA. in fact you seem to care more about this country than most americans. which is pretty pathetic because maybe, if you are so much better, you could surpass us? but no you waste your time complaining about how dumb americans are. so pathetic.
>>718848056 >The US isn't well trusted. Half the conflicts you start aren't for the betterment of the world. Even if the latter is true, we had sufficient people from Canada, Australia, and Europe to trust us going into Iraq. In fact, the Coalition nations did so against better intel.
I don't and didn't support the Iraq war, but the international community was happy that we went in and took out Saddam. Doing so was discussed in international 'liberal' circles for a while.
I don't support the shitty proxy wars in Syria and Libya, but the name of the game in Syria is keep the Russians from getting another port.
The Chinese are a paper tiger. It's financial, military, and social sectors are largely centered around 10-20 cities that dot its Eastern coast; the rest of China is varying levels of civilization from 2nd to 3rd world conditions.
I don't support a 40% tariff, but I do support auditing all our FTAs and to protect the US' Pacific allies.
>>718848442 > It's not just about the rate of mass violence though, when you lose the guns you have fewer hurt or killed. A guy with a knife CAN kill 30 people, but it's 100x more unlikely then if he has a semi-auto rifle that can slaughter a room.
Here is a similar line of argumentation >Per mile, aviation is the safest way of traveling Well, when I'm in a car, the engine doesn't fail at 20,000 feet. Checkmate >Those incidents are already included in the aforementioned stats
The data you're looking at is skewed by 15-20 ghettos that dot the US, and probably the firearm suicides as well. Most places in gun-loving Nevada, Texas, Arizona, Wyoming etc, per capita and in general, are pretty safe from shootings.
If we're cutting the shit here, the White murder rate- gun owning or not- fits within Europe.
The Black murder rate- gun owning or not- fits within Africa.
>No guns means less effective criminals, Nope. They easily resorted to other means in such a way that homicide trendlines remained within the MOE.
>>718849428 What are you even trying to say here? Do you think that those states don't spend that federal money on welfare? Do you think that taxfoundation.org isn't a reputable source? Do you even have an argument or are you just playing the part of the typical trumptard who lashes out with ad hominems when backed into a corner?
>>718849250 But it is ironic that Obama reduced the unemployment so much that you cucks harp about, yet you are saying that the large part of the population is on welfare which is tied to unemployment. Did you know that your Obama changed the way that unemployment was counted? It went from having to be unemployed for 299 day to be counted as unemployed to having to be unemployed for 699 day for it to be counted as being unemployed. Truth is unemployment is higher now than it ever was.
>>718848979 could that possibly be related to the fact that you cancerous faggots cannot seem to stay in your shitty country but insist on meddling with the world? Nobody needs you. Take your worthless currency and your imbecilic hollywood shit and do whatever the fuck you want in your shitty country and no one will give any fucks about you. Stop invading and bombing places and enjoy your exceptionally deluded selves.
>>718848582 >You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
There is no evidence suggesting Yamamoto said this. Even if the IJA somehow managed to invade the continental US all they would have to do to stop partisan activity is to genocide the fuck out of major cities.
>>718848935 And what i cant stand is that you seem to care more about american soldiers lives than native civilians lives. I think it should be the other way around. I mean, if ''your'' people dont want to die, why the fuck they enlist in the US army in the first place.
>>718849827 >It went from having to be unemployed for 299 day to be counted as unemployed to having to be unemployed for 699 day for it to be counted as being unemployed. That's some nice fake news you got there, anon.
>>718849937 I care more about American lives than those in some other country. It's idiots like you that think that solders are a thing. They are humans and they are Americans also. They have mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters just like the rest of you cucks. Their lives are just as fucking important if not more.
>>718849827 >But it is ironic that Obama reduced the unemployment so much that you cucks harp about This was due to 3 things >1 The economy being pumped up through extraordinary means (financial institutions bailout, car bailout, QE, TARP) that had nothing to do with textbook fundamentals
>2 The market simply troughed out and rebounded. Such is the business cycle
>3 A lot of full time employment was simply picked up by IPTE or Involuntary Part Time Employment
He didn't fuck anything up too badly economically, but he wasn't working miracles either.
Apparently, he thinks everyone in states won by Trump voted for him. His argument "Ha-ha! Red states collect more welfare than blue states!" is more than a little disingenuous, as the large cities in blue states spend far more on "welfare" than some entire states.
>>718849867 Stop talking like this is a fucking competition of convenience. If you were born in Afghanistan you wouldnt be this disrespectful. And then you wonder why you are the most hated country in the world (not including USA citizens who are antinationalists).
>>718850386 No is correct. In America, we believe everyone deserves a fair hand and blind justice. In other words, individual rights. Trump being rich has nothing to do with him as an individual. Individualism is ALWAYS better than collectivism.
>>718850416 No matter how you paint it. Changing the way it is counted will affect the numbers to make them look better. If all that you said was true then there would be fewer people actually unemployed.
>>718850386 >Corporatist who mainly kept to the sectors of construction, hospitality, entertainment, and branding
>Corporatist whose involvement stretched across the energy, banking, and international arms industries
They were both shit choices, but at least the former payed lip service to stopping the support for shitty proxy fighters trying to take down load-bearing dictators, to slow down mass immigration, to audit the FTAs, not to cuck to political correctness, and not to appoint Leftie SCOTUS justices.
>>718848056 Nigga that's not how isis was made This is what happened
>bush decides to be a fucktard and go to iraq because saddam supposedly had not disposed of existing wmds (strangely, this was not in retaliation for 9/11) >they don't find wmds and they left a fucked up country and some legitimacy to terrorist groups such as al qaeda. "Mission accomplished" >some time later, obama becomes the president >obama kills al qaeda leader osama bin laden >obama then leaves the middle east which means that al qaeda's retarded little brother isis takes the stage >and now isis is dying because their shit is getting fucked up
Turns out trump was technically right when he said obama created isis. But that doesn't cover the whole picture at all
>>718850738 >Individualism is ALWAYS better than collectivism.
Individualism is an anarchist fantasy. All forms of government are collectivist to one degree or another. The effect of America's idiotic government is to fuck the people in favor of corporate interests (aka Fascism).
>>718850584 >mfw you are a cancerous newfag >mfw I have no face
That being said, you're also full of shit. There a literally thousands of movies and tv shows being made outside of Hollywood. You know, all these movies and tv shows hollywood then adapts and ruins with its typical US bravado and the story telling and writing of a 5yo.
>>718851219 So you admit you are a fucking criminal. Because if outsiders talked to you patriots like this you would happily sent your armies. I hope the day comes when the rest of countries stop being cucks like you all say and erase your fucking country from history with their combined military. You will provably have changed your unrealistic opinion by then.
>>718851217 >To one degree or another No one is arguing that. It seems like you think corporations are a government entity i.e. they cannot be contested. Just so you know, corporations cannot I repeat CANNOT exist without the support of the people.
>>718850679 That's odd, because I'm from Germany and nobody wants your cancerous presence here. Nobody needs you here. Your presence costs taxpayer money so you can have your shitty centcom on our territory and use our intelligence to coordinate drone strikes. Get the fuck out of here you worthless subhuman scum and don't come back.
>inb4 herp derp team 'murica puts out the fires Maybe don't start them in the first place you stupid niggers
>>718850344 At least your soldiers chose their destiny by enlisting themselves, unlike the civilians they shoot. I'd like to see you when USA gets invaded by other countries as their soldiers are defended as heroes like you do with your criminals.
>>718851648 lol whats criminal is that all you countries eat our shit up like its a healthy breakfast every time we release something in the entertainment world we dont give a shit about a single thing out of your country >omg i cant wait for the day stop crying faggot
Every multi constituency election sometimes yields an election winner who gets a minority of the vote. It last happened in Britain - Heath (Cons) won the popular vote, Wilson (Lab) won the election. Only ignorant people are unaware of this.
>>718852600 >16 % of world's GDP >Greatest military by far >Net agricultural exporter >Top in universities, patents, medical advancements >Finance center of the world >Ultimately influences North America, South America, Europe, and the OPEC nations >World comes to US sources for media consumption k
>>718852869 Kek. Well it's been fun arguing with you guys, but I have to go back to filing paperwork for Monday, in my 100% White suburban neighborhood, and will likely spend tomorrow at the gun range with friends.
>>718836262 Until a week ago, I would have argued against you day and night. But I just got back from Bejing.
It's fuckin over mateys. I went into a fucking building, and there was more city in the many, many floors underneath it, than there was above it.
When you see what they've done with their money, and you come back here and see what this country has done with 1000x the money... and you see their level of organization they're operating on, and what the unimaginably enormous resources able to mobilize, and realize you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg, as their entire country is just now developing and becoming a consumer economy of staggering potential. You can double the size of the US population, and they still have a BILLION more people than we do, all wanting all the shit we want and all willing to work to build it all and pay taxes...
They might as well be some other species of fucking aliens, because the ones who rise to even the middle management are sharper than any executive I've ever worked with.
This country is a blip on the timeline of notable world powers.
Voting in an idiot was literally the point. Go sit at home collecting your check like a lazy piece of shit and bow to your government more. You'll probably be too stupid to understand why it was done so I don't know why I would even bother with you.
>>718854051 actually I think the guy was terribly underwritten in lue of the mary sue female lead that made the movie oh so horrible. I think it would have been an interesting movie to see things through a stomtrooppers point of view but it didn't seem like disney wanted to take any risks on this movie.
>>718854028 >Clinton wastes 1.2 billion of donor money on her campaign Because they wanted her to lose right? Topkek you fucking idiot. Btw she was still paying off her 2008 run till 2012 so all that money was given to her. You're literally fucking retarded.
>>718854072 I should and I will as soon as the cancerous powers that be in the US stop setting fire to the world and leave us the fuck alone. Those sandniggers didn't grow on trees, they fled here because your cucklord in chief decided it would be a good idea to give weapons to terrorists..erm moderate rebels, after it was a good idea to oust Saddam, whom you've guessed it, one of cucklord's predecessors brought into power to fight Iran.
Stop fucking meddling with shit and understand you always and without fail make it worse.
>>718854938 >Taking frustrations out on civilians who have nothing to do with their government You're just too stupid to converse with. You realize the American people have little to no say in what the government does right? You should hate our government and not us you fucking imbecile.
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