has anyone here had any experience with nofap? I attempted it for the last 5 days but broke last night. think I started to experience a little bit of a change but nothing huge. don't know if I should attempt again or not.
>>718823251
so by the picture, is it bad to fap or good to fap?
It does have benefits. Fap 2-3 timrs a week, less if you really want to feel it. I've noticed some raise in mental and physical health
>>718823823
i will stop fapping regularly, if its actually going to benefit me i might as well do it on the weekends every now and then.
>>718823714
this stuff is normally troll science about it being good not to fap. The joke most people don't seem to get is that not fapping/having sex is actually what fucks up your testosterone
>>718825263
how so?
and back it up please
>>718823251
>checks filename
God dammit
>>718823251
Tried it, it's bullshit.javascript:;
Eating shitty/living a shit lifestyle and having low self-esteem are actual factors into your testosterone.
The irony is, if jacking off everyday reduces testosterone, then doesn't having sex everyday?
From personal experience & speaking on my own behalf i think it works. I cant say any science I can just say facts
1. Self discipline with nofap carries self discipline into other areas of life
2. Extra arroused around woman gives you a boost in confidence and clear thoughts of being the alpha
3. Sometimes i get angry, but being aggressive works in a mans favour more often than not
>>718825391
There is no proof that no fap causes a long term and significant rise in testosterone level. Apart from leddit superpowers bs,
Picture related my blood test when I was fapping 1 -2 a week
>>718823251
long term nofapping actually lowers your testosterone
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2605.1999.00196.x/full
>>718825717
Anecdotes are facts now I guess
>>718825631
aren't the psychological effects different? I never had the crushing feeling of depression and loneliness after having sex
>>718825717
>2. Extra arroused around woman gives you a boost in confidence and clear thoughts of being the alpha
but if your ugly nobody cares....still
>>718825391
I'm not a doctor or biologist, but what I heard is that its a lack of use sort of issue. If the body isn't releasing as much cum it doesn't spend as much time producing it or the things around it similar to how taking steroids causes the parts to shrink because it stops producing its own testosterone (I've heard not fapping can do that as well/as a consequence of this)
>>718823251
Either your body absorbs what it produces or ejects it in your sleep (known as a wet dream) and being in a relaxed state, there will be loads of it.
>>718825717
>1. Self discipline with nofap carries self discipline into other areas of life
Lol, if your first expeprience with self-discipline comes with not fapping all day, you're a fucking loser anyway.
>2. Extra arroused around woman gives you a boost in confidence and clear thoughts of being the alpha
Not jacking off isn't gonna suddenly give you any game. If you don't have the skills to back it up, aggresively approaching women will be seen as desperate.
>3. Sometimes i get angry, but being aggressive works in a mans favour more often than not
Maybe it works in your favor more often than not, but if it doesn't work in your favor even once, the consequences can be really bad.
>>718825720
Testosterone peaks at 7 days after last ejaculation then will start to go below normal levels after months.
>>718823251
Been going 12 days.
I'm more clearheaded, more concerned with eating healthier, sticking to working out, and jut in general more motivated to better myself.
>>718826894
Keep at it, placebo bro.
>>718827398
>placebro
>>718827398
Fuck that noise.
What made me actually commit to nofap was when I would look at porn all day and then something would come up and I wouldn't have time to wank.
I just seemed smoother and to have more of an effect on people the entire time.
You can just google "Your brain on porn"
There are legitimate and identifiable effects to your mental state from looking at porn, and even just from too much time pounding away on the computer in general.
>>718826216
Post blood test results . research
>>718827708
>"Your brain on porn"
>Muh rewiring
>muh PIED
>muh brain fog
>>718823251
Even i tried to nofap from last 5 days. Broke it last night.
>>718827708
Dude, if you don't wana wank, go for it.
But don't give me your pseudo-scientific bullshit. Just admit that there's no factual basis as to why nofap should work.
If you believe in it nonetheless, then more power to you.
>>718827898
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2605.1999.00196.x/full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract
I am an 18 year old and never fapped.
Checkmate, unvirgins.
>>718828756
It makes intuitive sense that, if you masturbate A LOT like me, denying yourself daily masturbation helps with self-control which can help with a host of other things.
>>718829032
im sorry for you
>>718829251
or you can show self control through moderation
>>718829296
You should. It's pretty boring. Though it makes things simpler.
No need to hide it.
>>718829251
I don't see how this is eben an argument.
Did you people never achieve self control in your life until you stopped fapping?
Having self-control and some amount of discipline is basic stuff. Normal people don't need to to go into some weird program that involves not fapping to have a bit of discipline.
If you want to achieve discipline, just buy a plant and aim to not let it die.
It's the same principle, you simply force yourself to think of and do something. Why involve fapping?
>>718823251
lol it's bs. Try it for yourself and see..I've done it lots, longest was like 4 months.
Super surprising fact of the day:
>It's healthy to masturbate.
Didn't fap or have sex for two years, two wet dreams in the duration, shit was cash man, mixed it up with lots of meditation, you wouldn't believe how much sexual energy can be used to sort your shit out!
>>718826894
You will eventually just wet dream all over your nice bedsheets. You can't fight it
>>718830444
you not having sex for two years wanst by choice
>>718830669
Zing!
Haven't fapped this year
The only difference is I am much hornier than usual.
>>718830669
Yes and no.
I was in prison at the time but was offered several shower sessions with the ladyboys of the wings. I politely refused.
>>718831227
sounds like masturbating is the least of your problems
>>718830885
What a great benefit.
>>718823251
It's not just nofap
It's moderate
Testosterone rises after 7 days but starts falling after
Basically fap once a week
>>718831353
It was, isn't now, lack of sex and jacking off actually gave me focus to sort my shit out.
>>718831531
I love how you got yourself locked up and the thing you were worried about is not jacking off.
you guys realize that this about all ejaculation and not just masturbation right
>>718823251
There is ZERO effect on your testosterone for fapping once or twice a day. Your testicles make new semen constantly. Old semen is pissed out constantly. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucking nigger jew.
>>718831531
>watching movie
>sex scene comes on
>instant raging boner
>taking a piss later
>boxers full of precum
Its horrible.
>>718831684
Didn't worry me at all, it was a means to an end. Prison ain't all that really, the only thing that did worry me was the unwanted advances from the wing trannies!
>>718823251
I've yet to see any actual proof that no fap is beneficial in any way.
It seems to be based on puritan victorian beliefs about sex and the only things I've seen that talk about it positively are anecdotal stories where people forget to check if they are confirming their bias.
>>718831693
I think these people are nuts, but from what I understand, the main reason to do nofap is to become insanely horny.
This in turn triggers you to persue women more agressively since you need to get off but can't masturbate.
And sicne you're filled to the brim with sexual frustration, you become more 'alpha' and sex-focused, which allegedly impresses women.
So nofappers aren#t against ejaculation as long as it's while having sex. Since that's the aim of the whole deal.
>>718831746
I chose not to have any other stimulus in my cell other than a radio and select books.
>>718825908
People feel crushing loneliness after fapping? I've never felt anything but great after jerking my dick.
Normie here. If I sleep at home I usually jerk off before bed because it knocks me right out the second my head hits the pillow. If I stay at someone's house and don't fap For a couple days. I'm more perked up, a lot more horney and confident and have more "balls" in terms of trying to get sex. I reckon if you didn't fap for like 2 weeks. Youd end up fucking anything
It's so hard though ,I haven't smoked for 2 months now but tried nofap now and couldn't last more than 4 days.
>>718823251
I did nofap for a month then fucked a girl 4 nights in a row. The first time she was impressed by my bestial load, she said there was enough to fix the California drought. I relapsed after fucking and am trying to start again, but porn addiction is strong. Definitely benefits to nofap.
>>718832357
>People feel crushing loneliness after fapping?
Seriously, what's wrong with these people?
They feel depressed over fapping?
They should go to a fucking feels thread and cry about 'that feel when no le gf' to people who are equally pathetic.
>>718832654
>but porn addiction is strong
You people are hilarious.
>>718832850
because?
>>718832357
This might be my bias, but I've seen this guilt behavior after masturbation in religious or former religious people a lot.
>>718832903
Porn addiction goes along the same lines as calling someone addicted to food.
We are sexual creatures by nature. It's not so much an addiction like alcohol as it is programmed into our minds by default.
If you think you're addicted to porn, chances are you're just genereally weak minded and have no discipline. You don't suffer from an addiction.
>>718833204
Clearly you've never tried nofap, the only obstacle is porn. And yes it is an addiction, otherwise you wouldn't need "discipline and a strong mind" to stop watching it you absolute brain dead zombie.
>>718833407
No it fucking isn't for the exact reason I explained.
If you are weak willed and have no discipline, you are more likely to eat like a fucking pig. Are you addicted to food? No, you just gave in to your nature which didn't plan on food being abundant. Same with porn.
>>718826216
This guy knows what he's talking about.
so will my dick get bigger if i dont fap or if i do
>>718834179
Both.
>>718834179
Well no bigger than what it usually does when you get an erection. But if you stop fapping, you'll probably get more random erections.
>>718834179
Is that a boy?
>>718834438
>But if you stop fapping, you'll probably get more random erections.
That sound great.
>>718834470
Do you care?
>>718834616
Meh I dunno, I remember after puberty started with me. They'd pop up all the time and for some reason at the worst times.
Like in math class for example, a boner would always pop up before the teacher told me to go solve the problem on the blackboard.
>>718833878
People can be addicted to food too moron.
>>718834788
To be honest in this state I wouldn't care.
>>718834985
What state are you in?
>>718835044
Horny state.
>>718835098
Then fap?
>>718834933
Not in the way you think.
Food addiction is compulsive eating. It's different from simply not being able to resist the temptation of food. Same with porn.
>>718835176
It helps but only on the short term.
>>718835286
Well it is friday, go take a shower, put on your best duds and go look for someone to fuck then.
I will tell you guys a secret. I was jerking off for 20 years and suddenly I just woke up. Instead of jerking the top head and grabbing skin back and forth I started from the balls and lifted the whole thing up and down holding on to the bottom near the balls. Instead of the top you start to feel the balls and the dick is secondary. You get major inches and have to fill the whole thing with blood until the balls dictate when the goo comes out. Much more goo. Focus all thought on the balls and pretend the3 shaft is in a real vagina but make sure not to rush even though you could easily finish off by tugging on the middle or top keep it at the bottom and go up and down instead of jerking off. Pay attention to the balls they will start to hurt trying to make the goo come out and then the goo will reach a breaking point where focus on vagina and titties and mouth are sharp and in focus and the goo will shoot out all over the newspapers on the floor and then you will have so much more goo that you have to get extra napkins for wiping down your computer and keyboard.
>>718835396
I recently came to Italy and I don't know the language!
>>718832352
You're like a hippy, but without all the fun parts
>>718835821
Man up and learn it
>>718835821
80% of language is body language anyway, just go out partying. You're bound to find some chick who knows a bit of english and finds you exotic.
>>718835647
>I was jerking off for 20 years
hold on, was that consecutive?
and then the more important question: wut?
>>718826193
>>718836530
What about his post is supposed to be bait?
>>718836028
>>718836183
Do you guys really think that instead of complaining all day about not having sex and actually going out there and try will help?
>>718823251
My expierence with nofap, which I just started, 5 days now
>way more chicks checking me out
>talking to them seems easy
>feel confident to be myself so I actually
make them laugh
>feel stronger and faster
>more aggressive and somehow better when I play basketball
>eyes are clear and don't look tired or unfocused
>better posture
>>718836462
Yeah man I will never go back to old jerking off again. I was on my knees with penis extended in front pointing straight ahead while hand pulls skin back and forth but makes little goo and i think damages penis. Now I gained 2-3 inches because penis extends to balls and full blood flow is reached from penis going up to stomach and down past balls in 180 degree motion and maximum goo shoots out to the point I have accidents where it gets all over the desk and past the newspapers onto the wall.
>>718837159
That's about the only thing that will help. Your chances get better if you're physically fit and know how to clothe yourself properly. But in the end, getting yourself out there is the best way to do it.
>>718837164
More like desperate for sex that would do anything to obtain it and girls will see you from miles and how needy you are.
>>718837277
dude, don't tell me that just got to a doctor for fucks sake.
>>718823251
enjoy your prostate cancer
>>718837277
So you've been pulling at your balls and gaining penis length?
Sounds iffy, you might've torn some of the ligaments that connects your penis to your pelvis.
>>718837164
>5 days now
>way more chicks checking me out
Seriously, how dumb are you?
Do you really think these things are in any way connected after not fapping for 5 days?
Like are you actually retarded?
THe placebo is real in this thread.
>>718837164
So you stopped fapping and suddenly noticed the girls who were probably checking you out in the past as well?
Perhaps you are just looking at more girls because you are horny.
>>718837644
>>718837569
No I was just never activating full penis bloodflow I was too focused on the penis but now I focus on the goo in the balls. It wants to get out so the penis is secondary it just facilitates the goo as the vessel for its escape but in order to get it out you focus on the base of the shaft and not until the whole thing is full do you release goo, you are trying to hold back but it literally becomes impossible and you shoot all over your computer and newspapers and the back wall and under the desk if you not careful. Maximum goo. I was pulling on my penis like a friggen retard for 20 years now I am getting monster loads.
>>718837702
Someone has bottled up rage from watching another guy fuck a 10/10 chick, don't forget the fact you jerk it while you watch. You're a literal cuck and are probably a freak who repulses women
>>718838440
Projecting is an ugly thing, kid.
>>718823251
yes, i have. to begin with depending on how far in you are it makes you feel better and also more aggressive (but that comes with some confidence) but at the same time you're trading that for having a huge need to have a fap/fuck. after about 2/3 weeks you slowly lose your sex drive and with that your testosterone. oh yeah, and apart from that since you're not stretching your dick anymore it shrinks (i wish i was joking). believe me or not, entirely up to you but this was my experience.
>>718837849
Never thought about this, before I couldn't look a girl in the eyes because I was a pussy and felt like a loser from watching porn all the time. I really do feel more confident now, believe me or not but I'm telling it how it is
>>718838595
>saying anything to make yourself feel better
>calling me "kid" to make your self feel superior
Muh psychology
>>718838858
Are you implying that you aren't also shit talking?
Get of your high horse, placebro.
>>718825871
>>718823251
This chart is based off the idea of low testosterone versus high/optimal testosterone levels.
What's stated in this chart is true, if your body is constantly in a state of low testosterone or you produce very little testosterone then you'll experience some negative feed back.
This doesn't apply to a young 18+ male who is suppose to naturally produce high amounts of testosterone.
HOWEVER if you vigorously masturbate/have sex, which can drastically deplete your testosterone levels, and do not engage in constructive reinforcement that regulates your T-levels you can then experience the draw backs of Low T.
It's not about if you fap or not, but how much you do and what you do to regulate /replenish yourself afterwards.
If you masturbate a lot or have sex a lot you need to follow up with a healthy diet and proper exercise which will help replenish your exhausted resources avoiding the side effects of Low Testosterone.
You max out around 2weeks so it's recommended to fap or have sex once every week. But this is up to you if you have more or less sexual relief
>>718838858
I'm shit talking? I was stating my expierence with nofap and you starting being a keyboard warrior , probably for the same reasons in my last posts
>>718838397
I'd still go get my penis checked out if I were you.
>>718838681
So this is a mental thing for you really. For some reason you've decided that watching porn makes you a bad person. Getting away from that guilt has given you a confidence boost.
Now if I were you, I'd try to find out why I were demonizing myself for doing something natural.
>>718839338
>Someone has bottled up rage from watching another guy fuck a 10/10 chick, don't forget the fact you jerk it while you watch. You're a literal cuck and are probably a freak who repulses women
So this isn't shit talking?
Also, thos guy over here has you completely figured out:>>718839369
You didn't suddenly get checked out by a bunch of women just because you didn't fap for 5 days. That's just ridiculous.
Maybe you have more confidence now, but as the dude said, it's more likely that's because you beat yourself up over fapping. It's entirely psychological.
>>718835647
inb4 tendies
>>718828877
The first study says that having sex causes your testosterone levels to go up, it actually says abstinence causes a drop in testosterone. The second study has a sample size of 28, and has never been repeated.
>>718839776
Different guy, here.
The #1 ingredient in cuckold porn is verbal abuse. Most people who get off on these videos self-insert as the bull who's telling the cuck how worthless he is. When people with a cuckold fixation start insisting that you're a worthless cuck and not a real man like they are, they're basically sexting you. It's what they get off to.
>>718823251
no fap does not increase test levels
>>718823251
I am a week shy of one year. Lost fiddy pounds of fat and am building some mass back. Although I can't say it is the sole cause of improvement, I can say it is the sole motivator for the other contributors. This is the right bandwagon to hop on. I'll side with Seinfeld, though, that it probably works opposite for ladies.
>>718826894
I feel your rage young jedi. It's time to release your anger.
>>718840668
"Peter how old is that girl?"
Fap once a week or two. The most noticeable aspect is rise in energy and confidence.(What you lose in every ejaculation, on average).
>>718841531
>What you lose in every ejaculation, on average
>3/4 tsp
...
>>718841491
Don't let her height fool you into thinking she's a youngun. She just lost her knees in 'Nam.
>>718835821
What a faggot. You're lucky enough to be in italy with beautiful Italian girls every where and you don't want to go out? A lot of them probably speak some English and would love to have a conversation with you.
I fap every few days because I like to. I don't give a shit if there's a "benefit" to not doing it for a long time. Even if there is, it's probably so slim as to be barely noticeable, so might as well do something I enjoy