i pretty sure im socio, i feel happy, but never sad. gore dosnt do anything to me, seeing people killed is kinda interesting, but just gore for the sake of gore, like that picture for instance just seems unnecessary
Psychopaths feel all emotions except for empathy. They're physically unable to put themselves in the place of others, causing them to feel no remorse. Sociopaths are kind of the same thing, but instead of empathy they just kinda have a shitty moral compass. I suppose I would be considered a sociopath. Also, psychopaths don't give a shit for gore, only edgy 14 year olds do.
Diagnosed sociopath / ASPD here. I love gore, though mostly from an artistic perspective. I'm a visual artist and the inner workings of the human body are fascinating and something I love to explore through art.
As for emotions, I feel the basic range of happy, sad, angry, anxious, etc. I just don't feel things like regret or guilt. I'm capable of sympathy and to some extent compassion but as par with the usual diagnoses criteria, I don't really understand empathy and don't share in the emotions of those around me.
To the extent of my knowledge, I'm capable of love, or what I perceive to be love, though I assume it isn't as intense as other humans experience it, and it's very selective.
I can get intensely angry and truth be told I kinda enjoy gore. Sometimes I'll even have thoughts of killing those that I hold dear very vividly, it can be annoying though not wanting to ever live such vivid thoughts. And they persist alot. Ask me anything I guess
i like to take snris and ssris and amphetamines and benzodiazapines until i don't feel anything but an unnatural emotional numbness which causes existential nausea over the feelings that i should have but do not.
>>718471589 By definition, assuming no other mental problems, a sociopath or psychopath would have all the regular emotions except empathy. Basically like a child before they develop a theory of self-and-other, except they stay that way for life. Also, I imagine for a sociopath this would be a weaker impulse as in such an instance the lack of empathy is learned rather than neurological. More like mental gymnastics, less like a key part of the healthy human mind missing.
not a true sociopath, but i was diagnosed with socio tendencies due to an issue with my brains ability to process serotonin.
I have all the emotions that you do but mine are severely subdued. My everyday normal is just a basic emotionless existence, nothing bad nothing good. I have happy and sad times but since my emotional peaks are really low there isnt much in the way of me noticing. I have to fake roughly 90 percent of my everyday interactions with people or they think theres something wrong with me.
I am a diagnosed psycopath and I feel nothing. Not one single thing. I've been like this for as long as I can remember. I am very intrested in what it is to feel and on some level I understand why people feel but I just cant feel it.
I do not feel anything at gore.
The only emotion i seem to be able to feel is pride.
Being like this is fucked up its awful. I hate every second of it and need a way no make it stop. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME!
>>718473900 You are literally autistic, stop trying to sound poetic fag. Psychopaths have a quite literal lack of empathy, it's not there at all. They are physically incapable of feeling it, and this is proven by brain scans. Normal humans have an ability to feel empathy.
not diagnosed. the only thing i notice is missing basic empathy as in nit being able to predict or even recognize emotions my actions lead to in other persons. Gore is not my thing, but when answering my fetish I actually enjoy watching people die. Actually I prefer people dying "my way" over anything else, and when that happens empathy is gone.
>>718474190 Empathy is an aptitude for how other people feel that can inspire emotional responses that mirror how you believe the other feels. It is important to being able to function in social settings for normal interaction. Any mammal that breastfeeds seems to have at least a basic form of empathy, although human empathy is particularly complex and advanced because, well, so are we.
have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.
>>718473006 Well OP, as I told you here, in my case I'm so into me, I just want great things for me, and if something or someone crosses my way to get it, I don't mind to get it/him/her out of my way, with words or actions I know that will bring down that person or get em out of the way, about emotions well, I can feel, just what I like.
>>718474366 then you do not have empathy but a strong desire to survive. Empathy is not "not killing someone because you would end up in jail. Empathy is "not killing someone because you know how their family and loved ones would feel"
>>718474056 no i can interact with people just fine, and i have no social issues at all. I can read people really well and i can almost always get people to do whatever i want. I guess you could say its in the same spectrum but no i was not diagnosed as autistic. the physician i went to said that due to the lack of receptors in my brain i cant process all the normal serotonin and it actually causes me migraines sometimes
>>718474152 kek, im not even trying to be edgy, i wouldnt know where to start, i just gave an honest answer to what seems like an honest question, very sorry its riled up your hypothetical feathers, you big pansy
I'm a sociopath, I have little to no emotions, I think I love but not sure about it And I'm indifferent about gore, I don't mind it, it's just naturally real stuff, but I wouldn't purposefully search for it
>>718471589 I generally in a neutral mood, neither happy or mad. My emotions are either Happy, Mad, Sad. That's it and no in between. I get depressed which is part of the sadness, and that's when I usually go and fuck shit up just to get some enjoyment.
>>718474582 I doubt you would. I doubt you're autistic or a psychopath. A psychopath wouldn't laugh at that unless there is a funny thing that happened during the crash, like the flying body hitting someone walking down the road. Lay off the edge man.
>>718474624 you dont even have a medical diagnosis. you just waltzed in here and started listing symptoms from a webmd article and advocating gore porn usage like it somehow justifies your claim. an honest shitpost is still a shitpost.
>>718472011 You're not a sociopath if you feel emotions you fucking that
Being a sociopath sucks, I miss out on a lot. They account for about 4% of the world's population. Having relationships and even friendships are hard because you tend to look at humans as tools to use for personal gain. I understand how emotions work, but I don't feel them. To that extent I am very charismatic and can often convince anyone to do whatever I want because I use their emotions as a tool for control by emulating what I know they want someone to do or say.
Do not assume this is bragging, it is actually a miserable existence. Do you know what it's like to not love or care about your mother and father? Your siblings? Knowing your "girlfriend" is only a tool to you? Not ever really feeling love or remorse?
Being a sociopath sucks, but you don't really notice or care because you never had the emotions there to begin with.
What I have learned through experience is that I cannot genuinely feel or love. I've been in committed relationships through my life for long periods of time, however I did not love my girlfriends like they loved me. I love them more as a possession than as person. I will consistently emulate what I 'should' do to show love, however it is a learned response for me and not natural. The same goes for my other emotions.
The only time I think I ever truly felt was when my dog died. The grief felt natural, maybe because the dog was loyal and loved me unconditionally, I don't really know because it was a one off.
Oh, and and im not into gore, it gives me too many ideas.
You say it sucks but you don't notice. This does not compute. You can't have it both ways edge-lord.
Also the difference between a sociopath and a crass shameless jackass seems to be finesse at manipulation. If you shamelessly try to use everyone around you, but do so in a blatant way nobody thinks "he's a sociopath" they think "he's a piece of human shit." But if you do so slickly suddenly you're a sociopath.
Psychiatric disorders being so fucking subjective and finicky is the reason I'm skeptical of the whole discipline in the first place.
>>718474573 If you give someone the power to destroy, and i mean absolute power, ,than that power consumes him. I once read a study saying no human can endure might for more than 8 years without becoming corrupt. Doesn't that mean that empathy goes away if you include this?
>>718471589 Emotionally I rarely, if ever, feel sad, despondent, empathetic, joyful, happy. I have the capacity to feel anger and rage, and in certain cases a lot of excitement.
I don't enjoy gore per se, however, the more extreme gore is appealing as it makes me feel something at least. I cannot watch animal abuse without feeling immense amounts of rage and disgust.
Far from being edgy I consider my psychopathy a major hindrance to enjoying life and would give anything for someone to invent a pill that would let me experience the full range of human emotions, bad as well as good. The closest I can get to an actual, rich emotion is heart-fluttering excitement in extreme scenarios i.e. viewing extreme gore, standing on the edge of a very high ledge, stealing, driving like a maniac etc.
>>718475043 Is that really truth i have gotten a lot of trauma because of family and school that the part of my brain that is in charge of emotions is starting to decrease and now every time i have an emotion have an headche the only thing i feel is pain it hurts to leave i have given up
ugh, this is kinda a dumb thread because so many of the replies are just going to be people bullshitting. as the child of a sociopath, I can't say exactly what emotions my dad has but I can tell you that you wouldn't have guessed his condition without having known him for years. I can also tell you that he has never in his life admitted to having done anything wrong, and has never apologized for any of the shit he put my family through. I can't say he enjoyed gore, often calling it "uneccessary" when it came up in war movies and such. He did however poison the neighbor's puppies with anti freeze soaked hamburger meat, so there's that...
>>718475264 That's learned sociopathy. It goes to reason it can be unlearned as long as there is no neurological reason why that person can't feel empathy. But this all seems to fall into the murky territory of the science of epigenetics, about which I am no expert.
>>718471589 I don't really "feel" anything, I know what I'm "supposed" to feel based on social context and I often pretend to feel those things so that people will trust me, but it's all just an act I put on so that people don't think I'm a sociopath and work against me. As for gore, I'm mostly indifferent towards it. I don't like it, but I sometimes find the creative ways in which people mutilate bodies to be somewhat interesting
>>718471589 I'm not diagnosed with anything, as I actively avoid mental health physicians. I am an extremely proud person, and would define my primary feelings as want, brief satisfaction and pride in myself, and then disgust at others. I am mostly positive and enjoy my time.
I have a hard time finding jokes and stories other people tell funny, and I have learned to just laugh. I don't remember ever being scared, past when I was a very young child.
Diagnosed with Bipolar disorder, PTSD, Clinical Depression, and when I was young Social Anxiety disorder. I have all emotions, my moods can switch really fast from very happy to going into complete (what my mom called "raging mode") My sister and my nieces died, didn't really feel anything. I don't care for gore, it's life so it doesn't bother me. Any other questions?
Pull up a psychology book, those two words aren't a definitive word to diagnose, but there are elements to meet the label.
Hard to tell if a person is a sociopath. People have inflicted punishment because their victims have broken a moral principle that doesn't necessarily match up to society, and the punishment may not exactly fit the crime. I've been guilty of it, but I'm not a sociopath.
A lot of small escalations back in my high school days where a kid slammed me in the face with his textbook. It was almost instinctive that whatever was in my hand or close to me was weaponized to retaliate to match up an immediate and overwhelming feeling of aggression. Stabbed him in the face repeatedly with a pilot pen that eventually broke. Felt like everything was going in slow motion, and the satisfaction of seeing him in pain felt almost like a blissful dream and inflicting a just punishment. Almost right after, and thought came to mind that said "I hope he doesn't bleed" and he immediately bleed like fossid water that wasn't quite off. Only reason I hoped that was fear of the consequence, I knew I had only my wits to get me through it, and I learned that all police or law enforcement look for as protocol is "who is the victim"? I knew I had to figure out how to exploit his anger to make him look like the aggressor and figure out how I was going to victimize myself. Kept apologizing when the assist principal came by, and made him feel empowered to react, which he did with constant threats in front of the assist principal. I played it calm and cool that he & I were friends even though we didn't actually know each other, with a "boys will be boys" and also compared his record of disobeying authority to my clean record. Assistant principal saw I "was a good kid" and let it go, his mother didn't, but the assist principal used "assault charge for assault charge" to defend me. I got away with it, mainly because I came to my senses & knew how to victimize myself.
I am a psycho. Ever since I was born i feel not a single FUCKING THING!! Last week my neigbor who i talked to every day had died, ifeel nothing of it now and does this sound normal to you? You never need anyone no friends nothing, i gotta admit it has its perks, but these perks are heavily outweighed by the bad things. You stupid kids want to be like me but trust me, you dont want to be the monster behind your own lies
Really, it depends. I live and have always lived in a populated are, meaning I have had a lot of interaction with people. I can build conversation and even take interest in what people say. The only thing is I can't build a relationship. It seems normal being born with it, but I can imagine it being difficult if you somehow obtain it, which i'm not even sure is possible
The onoy crazy thought that dwells in my imagination is that if i ever become filfthy rich and am like 80 years old or something i'll get like 1000 vans to drive trough my home-born country, let the drivers open the back, then all kind of drones with submachine guns fly out. Vans get exploded without the drivers consent, then all the drones kill litterely everyone. I always keep thinking, if you can't kill at least a million, don't bother at all. Wtf is wrong with these thoughts?
>>718476059 wow you really manipulated your way out of having consequences for inflicting pain on another living being(which you enjoyed doing) using your superficial charm and penchant for interpersonal exploitation. gonna go ahead and diagnose you as a narcissist who thinks your a psychopathic movie character.
>>718471589 I was told by my shrink I have Antisocial Personality Disorder but we both agreed to keep it on the low. I have a ton of fun stories if you guys are interested. They vary from faking suicide to friends to some crazy drug den scenarios.
>>718476812 I forget which exactly, but it is a haunted house. In a thread about the image, someone posted a bunch of other images of that same room with the same guy with the eaten legs posing with a bunch of normies for photographs. They all looked happy too, like people on tour through a haunted house. The man and the lady are actors in an exhibit in the haunted house. Considering how elaborate some of those things can get, I found it to be believable.
>>718476809 I don't believe I want anyone to think I'm psychopathic, or even sociopathic, that would put me a blacklist of suspicion to whatever I say to anyone in any form of manipulation. At least not in real life.
Yes. I do think I use my personality to be attractive to others in order to achieve my goals, and using everyone against one person who objects or detracts my goals is a principal tactic. Perhaps I may be narcissistic, but the last thing I want is to arouse suspicions while maintaining a constant professional persona who's always proper and formal with everyone. It's important that everyone likes you enough to do things they wouldn't normally do for others.
>>718471589 No one listen to the diagnosed socio/psychopath because if you really are a psychopath and have gotten yourself diagnosed you're a shit kind of psychopath. You're supposed to blend in and never reveal that you are one because it lowers your social value by alot if you do.
Gore doesn't give me anything, it got dull fast. Showing dominance is more my kind of thing.
>>718477154 My partner at the time heckled me for an autism diagnoses, and I wasn't really in a position at the time to question them, so I went in for one and eventually the therapist begun talking about the possibility of ASPD due to some of ways I described people around me and my general emotional sense. I actually knew fairly little beforehand about ASPD or the finer concepts of psychopath/sociopathy other than general mentionings of it in the media.
I told the therapist... the vast majority of the truth about my emotional state and the events of my early life, although I did leave out a handful of more illegal dealings I did when I was younger (and the fact my entire family have been selling drugs for generations.) I've never done anything extremely illegal, so there was actually fairly little to lie about, though I suppose I did downplay some of the times I'd manipulated people close to me me until the therapist outright asked one session.
I don't exactly fit the criteria for antisocial personality disorder. I have several of the traits listed in the diagnosis, but I have others that contradict it. For example, I have incredible empathy. I can vividly imagine myself in other people's mindsets and situations, so much so, that I can mentally feel their pain and anguish. However, I have only used this to manipulate others. For some reason, my empathy and sympathy cords weren't connected, so just because I can fully understand you're situation or pain, does not mean I will feel sympathy. My favorite strategy to use is the infamous gaslighting technique. It's how I've managed to keep my parents from figuring out I'm no longer in school.
>>718477220 Good enough for me. I'm quite proud of some of these to be fair. I'll start with the whole joke suicide thing. I was very bored in High School. It was a huge joke and basically just an area to fuck around for a couple hours until I got home. I made a couple groups of friends, and one of which was a more emotionally bonded set. I was home bored one night and thought it'd be funny to see how they all reacted if I called the one more well-liked of the group and acted like I was on the top of a building and was going to off myself. I called him at around 11pm and fed him a bunch of bullshit like "goodbye, you were a really good friend but I'm tired of everything" etc to bait him in. I talked to him for a bit and gave a bullshit story about how I saw my real life friend kill himself when I was younger and I was part of the cause. All of this was total bullshit of course but he believed it all and was clearly attempting to steer me away from offing myself. I decided that I was kinda broke at the time since I was just a high school student with a shitty minimum wage job that didn't last very long at that time either. So, I also tied in that I had debts to people due to "hanging with the wrong crowd to cure my depression." I thought "why not get some money out of this too, in the end." After a little bit of talking I told him that I'd need to rethink things put on an act like I was still CONSIDERING it but wasn't going to do it at that moment. Come the next school day I was treated completely different. Of course in a good way. The main friend clearly told others in the group because the next time I came in they all saw me from afar and you could see in their eyes a level of empathy and worriedness that was so golden I could barely contain myself. From that day forth I believe I nabbed a year of free drugs and probably $650 off of the group? Man I kinda miss high school.
>>718474771 Most psychopaths including myself never get diagnosed. Only the criminal ones. Most of us aren't criminals though, we're just people with very different emotions and thoughts regarding society and other people.
>>718477397 Eventually everyone does everything for personal gain. If i help someone without asking anything in return, it's because maybe i can ask them a favor, orat least they'll view me as a better person. Everyone should have this attribute to an extent.
Also, something to be remembered. We are not all the same in intellect or value for that matter, but we all have the same feelings of joy when someone does something nice for us, in a world we believe to see in a negative point of view, we keep getting surprised and our goals completed or eased up a bit if what you as a normal being should only want to give back in return.
If you do not have this empathy, it's not neccecarely a sickness, but more or less just sturbonness because you dare not self-reflect that far.
Trying to underdtand others and their feelings is also a way to reflect and learn from
>>718474858 i feel what i think is happiness, when i laugh at things, thats the extent of my happiness, is there just a general state of happiness where people just feel good warm and fuzzy all the time? that sounds like a mental illness
>>718477896 I do enjoy music. It varies genre wise though. I listen to stoner rock, rap, some electronic music and such as well. I like classical as well, but that was also forced down my throat as a kid so that might contribute to it a bit. I'm going to add that it's unlikely that this many people are what you refer to as "Psychopaths". Now, ASPD is a spectrum, but to be at the level that you are looking for is quite rare and seeing this many responses is a good indicator that some people here are either lying or desire to be something they are not. Not like it matters though. If you want to live your life being an asshole, be my guest. But when shit hits the fan I doubt most of you would be able to handle the heat.
>>718478473 I'd like to be a better person, most people do. I would like to have understanding and empathy, but if this happens to be absent, isn't logical to allude or falsify to others an act that I have this quality?
Mimicking that I understand or empathize before having it seems both logical and "good natured", does it not? I'm not sure, I know I'm not a good person and I don't have any general direction on how to guides to gain a virtue that doesn't currently exist in me. Thank you for being constructive, it hard talking about things with a civil discussion when most people seem less civil if I were to discuss this same thing with them. Self-gain is priority, if I can be virtuous doing it, sure...but I would like some direction on where I should look.
>>718479047 No, you are clearly projecting your own toxic personality onto everyone else because deep down you know you're an awful human being and the only way your insecure ass can come to terms with that is by pulling the rest of the human species down to your level.
>>718478892 Are you attempting to find a correlation between ASPD and music taste? A bit far fetched but it is interesting nevertheless. >>718478947 Shrink told me that it's an area in the brain that's activated under traumatic experiences. It's a genetic thing.
>>718478739 EXACTLY DESU Finally, someone who gets it. Most people can hide it pretty well as long as you're not around them all the damn time and constantly watching their only move. The only obvious psychopath I know is so stupid and self-unaware, that no one can stand him.
>>718479218 You shouldn't feel attacked when i say everyone does something for personal gain, may it be a little or not.. but you seem to view it as something negative. Why though, why be so ignorant and keep believing in your illusions? Self-reflection is key. Dare to, or be ignorant all your life.
>>718479113 Not him, but morality lies, at least in my view as of late, in action rather than intent. Good people are people who do good, regardless of the darkness that may or may not dwell in their minds. It truly is as simple as that. And to do good is to be kind, generous, just, etc. There are a million ways to conceive of good but the way with the greatest pedigree would be the old golden rule about doing unto others.
I'm a vicious asshole on the inside, I seethe with resentment and bitterness and condescension in my own head, lashing out is almost reflexive to me, but in my interactions with other people I still try my best to do what I feel is right. To be polite and kind insofar as I am able, and to try and live justice as I see it. What does it matter if I regard the fat obnoxious ugly woman I encounter in the street as all of the above if I'm a perfect gentlemen to her face? If I don't plot to screw her over or if I rush to her aid should she be struck by a car? I'm still decent enough. And you can be too.
Morality is only meaningful, like all other abstract things, when made material.
>>718479726 I don't know if there's any reason behind it. The only logical explanation I can give as to why I like classical, electronic and stoner metal is because all of those genres don't have much vocals to them. Personally, I could give less of a shit about a girl singing a love song. It doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. If there's no lyrics I can put whatever thoughts and imagination I'd like into it.
>>718478278 I had a "friend" pull this one on me, the second time he tried it I told him to follow through, but of course it was just a tactic... He is an alleged sociopath (I believe he is), but I have to respect his ability to manipulate people. I never noticed it before but when I see him now I can see how he guides conversation. I watched him manipulate a girl into being subservient to him, it was very fascinating. Other than that he's a cunt, but to each his own I guess.
>>718479739 I'm plenty capable of self-reflection, and upon self-reflection I find your little sophomoric, Randian, catch-all theory about human behavior to be utterly ludicrous. It is unfalsifiable and thus utterly meaningless. According to your skewed perspective, a mother throwing herself in the way of a bus to push her child out of the way is doing so for a momentary satisfaction at having died a martyr and saving her child. Not that I'll convince you, you already have all the answers, my high-school objectivist comrade.
>>718479778 hahahaha you'd be very well aware that you're different from others. There's a lot of things since childhood that you'd do or NOT do that'd clearly show that you aren't "normal". I don't think anyone could have ASPD and just be like "oh wow I might have had this the entire time." That's truly one in a million if anything. Maybe even more than a million. When I killed our neighbors cat I was very well aware that if I wanted to get away with it I'd need to act sad if anyone brought it up. It's small things like this as a child that create that self-realization.
>>718480159 Oh yeah. If there's anything I've learned it's that if you show people what they want to see, you're set. It's quite funny, really. People always desperately attempt to rationalize the other persons manipulative nature. >>718480366 I don't care, but I found that comment hilarious nevertheless. I'll tell one of the stories about a huge fight at a drug den next. That one was exciting. But I'll do it after I get some beer.
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