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no one will help you
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>>718467739
shit, i havent had healthcare since obama care started
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i am just a regular dude like any of you

no one is going to help us
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>>718467851
You owe the fee for any month you, your spouse, or your tax dependents don’t have qualifying health coverage (sometimes called "minimum essential coverage


You pay the fee when you file your federal tax return for the year you don’t have coverage.
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I haven't had healthcare in 15 years, I'm 32.
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>>718468122
That's if you file your taxes...
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>>718467739
And damn good coverage, too.

Get a job, cunts.
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>>718467739

>pay $17 a paycheck for very good healthcare before Obamacare got rammed though
>now paying $170 a paycheck for shitty coverage
>yes i know my employer and insurance company are fucking me over
>but the cost skyrocketed and i doubt my company is going to foot the bill

Thanks Obama.
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>>718467739
implying I give a shit if I die
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No but lucky for me I don't live in a country that will let me die on the street because I don't have something as trivial as money.

RULE BRITANNIA
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canadian here

fucking of course i do
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>>718468604
Get some teeth with that healthcare.
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>>718468721
I may have shitty teeth ( i actually dont) but at least I wont have to file for bankruptcy if I break a finger.
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>>718468721
You can get density treatment on the NHS if you're not working, sick, pregnant or retired.

the UK having bad teeth is a myth. Just like yanks being fat, egocentric backwards bastards.

Oh, wait...
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>>718468257
have fun trying to retire dude
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Denmark here it's free
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>>718468883
You sir, are full of shit and dildos. A friend just moved to Brighton, she says its loaded with filthy fat fucks with awful teeth. That's why she moved there after all, to be with her people.
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>>718468946
Just because someone doesn't file their taxes that doesn't mean they have no money. Don't be that autistic
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>>718467739
I may live in a communism infested autocratic shithole but at least I've got free healthcare, dental care included.
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>>718467739
Yup. Because I was responsible, got a job that paid well and offered insurance as a benefit. I didn't wait for a liberal cuck to take someone else's money and buy things for me.
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>>718468163
What if no one comes to help you when you need cardiac surgery or to treat your cancer?
But of course you are American, young and invulnerable.
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>>718469024
>free
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>>718468604
But your 80% tax rate and 6 month waits are not looking so good...
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>>718469347

>this is what the corporate kikes tell you as you line up to pay more in taxes and health insurance than the people who live in first world nations that have universal, free at the point of use, healthcare.

Enjoy willingly licking the shit off your masters asshole as they fuck you red raw with no lube, you retarded Ameripoor.
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>>718469128
>loaded with
The 3, 4, 5 or 6 people a day that she notices.

There are a percentage of people in the UK with bad dental hygiene, but it's usually in the very poor areas. The irony is that being in a poor area, they probably get it for free. But it's not in the common social mind-set to get checked every six months, which they are entitled to do. For free.

The UK's teeth is a running joke. It's not as bad as TV makes out, but nobody gives a fuck, cos we all think it's funny too.
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Yeah, i dont live in a 3rd world country. We have healthcare.
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>>718469761
do you get your facts from 4chan or somthing?
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>>718469268

>being proud of being this short sighted and self obsessed.

The only cuck here is you, retard.
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>>718469340
What are you? Stupid? Autist? I'll die you fuckwad.
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>>718469846

Do you get yours from Jew Propaganda Monthly, cunt?
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>>718469268
When you no longer have the health or the choice to have a job well paid, then only you will realize your error, but it will be too late
You can always expect pity and reach out into the street while waiting to die of cancer, only hope that people at this moment do not behave like you today.

You only have to hope to live healthy asshole
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Of course I do. I pay my taxes. The government won't let me die because I don't have money. Luckily I live in Europe. What kind of 3rd world country do you live in, OP?
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>>718469938
oh wow careful you might hurt yourself with all that EDGE
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>>718470293
"The government won't let me die because I don't have money."
-the biggest liar of the century
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>>718471250
no they wont let you die, because they can take any money you get for the rest of your life instead
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>>718471011

>resorting to mediocre canned responses because you can't post an intelligent rebuttal after being utterly BTFO

What's the going rate for a simple broken arm in the US right now - $15k?
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>>718471740
Memes aside, man, it's shitty here but not that shitty.
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>>718471906

Oh really? Tell me, how much would it cost to have a simple cut cleaned, stitched up, with some painkillers?
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>>718471567
They just let you die in the US.
I was hosped for epileptic seizures and given nothing, but they did give me an asthma inhaler and reassure me that I was just having a panic attack, after offering me blatant amphetamines to calm it down.
Also they charge for one guy to take your vitals, leave, send another guy to ask a single question, charge, leave, then they send one to take blood, charge, leave, and finally send another nurse to ask you questions and then leave without solving the problem. You usually get charged 10 individual day's wages (at doctor wages) by the time you leave.
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>>718472183
I don't know, I'm insured. I wouldn't think very much but I don't know. I'm not the fag you were arguing with and I'm pretty sure we're on the same side. I voted for Bernie and his single-payer.
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>>718468721
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>>718467739
yes but i dont spend a penny as i also have nhs
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>>718467739
>tfw when you live in a country where healthcare is free
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>>718467739
>not just dropping dead when your times comes
What are you, a faggot?
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>>718472183
It's free for me! Thanks, Obama!
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>>718467739
>tfw British
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>>718472183
UsuallyUsually $700 and you have to pay $800 a monthmonth for your ineffective vicodin prescription.

Also ambulance rides are charged at $840 per mile if no ambulance supplies are used.
I had a broken thumb and got charged about $2000 but got no splint, cast, medical care, medicine or physical therapy. They looked at it and said "k" before charging me $2000.
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>>718470409
>implying i need help

i don't depend on others faggot
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>>718472816
>free

kek
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"Free" healthcare
> over 50% income tax
Paying for fatass NEETS to get treated for their heart attacks and diabetes
And manditory paid healthcare just makes those who cant afford coverage have to still pay something while also not being covered
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>>718472651
>I wouldn't think very much but I don't know.

You know it's in the thousands, right? I'm sure that's "not very much" to the average US citizen.

>>718473053

Greatest country on earth, eh?
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Welp. Most Democrat states already have a form of socialized state-wide healthcare system. Most Republican states don't. All those poor ass Trump supporting retards will get sick and either die off or bankrupt themselves.

Can't wait for state unemployment numbers in a year or two. WEW LADS.
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>>718473160

>being so autistic you refuse to grasp that we know how it is paid for, but we are saying it is free at the point of use.

>>718473245

>still falling for the le 50% tax maymay

I pay maybe 18% tax. How's your federal, state, local district taxes treating you?
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>>718473245
>No money for healthcare
>Bombing 7 countries simultaneously
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>be me l
>live in Canada
>enough money for free health care
no
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>>718473053
Fuck...

Here I pay $120 a year for unlimited ambulance use. Otherwise it costs a shitload, especially if its an airlift.

Everything else though... there's plans and subsidies and all sorts of benefits if you're eligible.
Its not an awesome system, but its better than getting fucked over for an ingrown toenail.
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America: the thread

Americans are moronically obstinate to the point of suicide


>I DONT WANT TO COOPERATE THATS SOCIALISM REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>718473647

And then you get denied coverage for your toenail in the future because it's a "pre-existing condition".
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im not a fucking amarifat so yes its free ffs!
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This worry doesn't exist in sweden. The government has your back. Free healthcare (and one of the best in the world) free schooling, free schools (yes including university, I actually get paid studying along with a loan ofc) and ofc. allemansrätten (freedom to walk on anyones property as long as you're not interrupting, disturbing or littering, mainly applied in the landscape)
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ITT neocons keep falling for the "obamacare" meme while demanding to keep health care privatized unironically

health care is a fucking business. the CEOs give themselves raises with your premiums, and the rates are hiked in retaliation OF obamacare. Rates that THEY decide to charge. and chances are most of you live in states that REFUSED obamacare funding out of spite. keep memeing, friends.
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>>718473623

And then "tactically withdrawing" after getting utterly rekt by peasants and sending your "heroes" home to commit suicide.
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>>718473766
American here, checking dubs of truth
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>>718473623
hahaha this
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>>718467739
Nope. You can literally have no job, and be expected to pay at least $50 a month for coverage. You can skip coverage and pay roughly $700 for the year as a penalty on your taxes, or you can get a job where they pay a portion and you pick up the balance, usually with pretty ridiculous deductibles- until you retire and have to resort to Medicaid or Medicare- so no, I don't, and neither does anyone else.
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>>718473766

>le enjoy your 97% taxes that pay for Muslim migrants to live in your crumbling castles and rape your daughters europoor maymay
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Medicaid!!
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>>718473766
"cooperate" here used loosely. most socialist countries have trouble affording their healthcare too. and their tax systems are set up TO pay for it too. This is why sanders was unrealistic. this shit can't happen overnight and it'd bankrupt us to try.
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>>718473889
Almost checked trips yourself. It must be tough failing so hard.
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>>718473121
so if you get hit by a car and lie on the street bleeding with your legs paralyzed, what do you do?
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I had keystone before obama care it was like 200 or something for ER and basic prescriptions and GP. Once obama care kicked in it went up to 650 and I just cancelled it for a while. I have healthcare with my job now, but I still get raped. I also had the IRS trying to butt fuck me saying I filled out my taxes wrong, that I claimed I had healthcare when I didn't, so I ended up owing them money for the penalty

thanks obama
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>>718474110
Yeah man, you too kek.
>tfw
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>>718473245
> 50% taxes
> paying for NEETS

You left out education, roads, infrastructure, housing, pensions, and all that other good shit.
You don't wanna pay for NEETs and their self-imposed diabeetus? Cool. No one does. But when you get cancer, can't work full-time, the bills pile up, you're too sick to drive yourself to the doctor, and you can't afford the rent/mortgage.... well, that's a bitch, ain't it?
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>>718474099

We don't have any trouble here at all. There are two new hospitals being built within half an hour of my house. Enjoy continuing to pay exorbitant amounts of cash to the kikes.
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>>718473053
>They looked at it and said "k" before charging me $2000.

I got the same thing, and I had just graduated and didn't realize that my insurance through school had just expired (I thought it continued through the end of the month), and they didn't verify that it was good at the front desk, just that I had a card.

So when the bill came, I called to ask what the bill was for exactly, because I literally saw the doctor for 5 minutes total. They said it was 200 to walk in the door and 200 to see the doctor. I asked whether I could give informed consent when they didn't tell me my insurance was up at the desk. She said if I had a problem I'd have to take it up with legal. I said "fuck it" and hung up, knowing I'd be moving out of state and hospitals budget for having to eat some costs.
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>>718474110
Well fuck me.
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Money for healthcare, what is it? Eurofag here
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>>718473782
Not here.
I only have dental and optical coverage because of shitty teeth and shittier eyes.

Everything else, no need for insurance unless I want a private room
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>>718474264

Sssssshhh, let him reduce his lack if an argument to absurd, extremist examples. You can't let pesky facts get in the way of his narrative where all his tax money goes towards a ridiculous minority.
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>>718474264
Trying to get a conservative to sympathize with anyone other than themselves is useless. They have no compassion, because it costs them tax dollars. If they don't suffer from the problem, it doesn't exist and everyones just bitching.
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>>718474449
We pay a little bit more taxes, Americunts just get a bill.

>That will be 153k.
>Pay within 14 days please
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>>718467739
Yes, because my healthcare is exactly $0. Thanks Medi-cal and thanks Obama!
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>>718474449
a business. we make money off our sick people.
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Yeah, I have enough to cover the small fees up to the max limit of around 200 USD, anything above that is free. I don't live in the US, but you probably guessed that.
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>>718474510
>>718474566
I know...
I was just hoping for a semi-lterate argument to come out of it. I'm an optimist.
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>>718474566
This anon gets it. Now I'm not a faggot and realize there are idiots on both the left and the right. But there's definitely more on the right.
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>>718473013
cheers m8
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>>718474588
Holy fuck....

> we save lives
> and then we ruin them
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>>718474588

>Ameripoors have absolutely no problem whatsoever with any of this and will try to tell you that you're irresponsible if you don't have six figure sums lying around to pay grossly inflated medical bills after having an accident.

Bet that $150k is for blowing on a paper cut and giving you a lollipop for being brave.
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>>718474897
>keep them alive
>so they can keep payin
pretty brilliant business plan
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>>718474897
Yeah man pretty much. Kinda like how every baby is precious and just be protected all the way up until the moment it's born and then it's BOOTSTRAPS PUSSY.
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Just got it.
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>>718474853

>children go around stabbing each other in the UK

Let's restrict the sale of knives to adults who can be held fully accountable for their actions!

>children massacre each other with guns in the US

Obviously the answer here is less gun control and more guns!
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>>718467739
>health
>care
No I've got only enough to allow some medical-Jew handler to take my money so that he can subversively destroy my health under the pretense of caring for my health.
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>>718467739
>do you have enough money for healthcare?

yes. i am a NEET so i dont make any money so that is enough for free healthcare :D
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>>718474897
>>718474977
You guys don't realize whats happening here. No one knows what's happening because the system is so complicated, we just give up trying to understand it and continue to defend it while it fucks us in the ass. Our leaders keep us in the dark on purpose because theres a ton of money in it.

They always tell us the high costs pay for the equipment and labor. Now we have to sit back and wonder how much it costs in other countries since literally no one else has a business model like this.
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>>718475203
oh boy, here we go.
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>>718467739
My refrigerator is broke. I have more immediate concerns.
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>>718474072
>>718474099
this is why Americans are so poor, they spend an inordinate amount of their workday swallowing and regurgitating McCarthyist propaganda
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>>718467739
I don't need money for healthcare because I live in 1st world country. Europe.
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>>718475507
at least we didn't ACTUALLY secede from our union, redcoat.
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>>718475575
>Europe
>country
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>>718468883
Bad teeth are from all the inbreeding. Worst blow jobs ever.
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>>718475203

>2nd Amendement, to deter tyrannical government!
>MFW government forces fuck me up
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>>718468883
>yanks being fat, egocentric backwards bastards
the only people who say shit like that are foreigners, who are responsible for perpetuating the myth in the first place.
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>>718475466

>it's bait if you mention we allow our children to regularly slaughter each other with guns
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i live in australia, so, i always have enough
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>>718474853
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

10 days into 2017, 8 mass shootings.
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>>718476283
its b8 because the 2nd amendment derails every thread its mentioned in and is usually guaranteed (You)s. giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you know that already, here's your final (You) on the matter. Fish discreetly next time.
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>>718476129
lol
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>>718476501

>posts photo of knife sales restrictions in the UK
>gets a reasoned response
>le u r le baiting maymay

Get fucked.
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These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/27/these-coal-country-voters-backed-trump-now-theyre-worried-about-losing-obamacare/
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>>718473013
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>>718476501
So we can assume Americans support everything their government does otherwise you'd be chimping out with your ineffective small arms all the time
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>>718475411

If only you lived in a free democratic country where you could protest about this and vote in people who could dismantle this horrendous system and install a new one.

Oh well, shame you live in a 3rd world dictatorship.
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Obama care allowed my Dr. To Bill the associated insurance company $120 for a flu shot. I don't get that. It costs $14 at the pharmacy.
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Hey American patriots how are you going to overcome your nation's Air Force
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>>718467739
Yes
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>>718476916
It's because the healthcare industry in the US can just price gouge the shit out of everything. Nobody's gonna stop them.
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>>718476916
wow and doctors only ever did this after obamacare?

0/10 idiot
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i live in australia

top croak
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>>718476871
"support" used loosely. one of the most constant themes in our elections is "keep it the same". its not surprising that logic hinders progress to new ideas. GOPs approach is always "return to simpler times", "keep it the same", or the most popular "ITS CHANGING AND ITS SCARY AND WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TRUST ME IM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO THAT!"

They keep us in the dark on purpose, because voting to keep the status quo means voting to keep the corrupt shit that's been happening for decades now.
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I'm the diabetes patients ITT without feet because of American healthcare
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>>718477088
this. the vast majority of americans who didn't have healthcare before obama don't have conditions that require checkups/visits. now that they're required to have coverage, they might as well get their moneys worth and are suddenly shocked by the corruption of the health care system.
>the corruption thats been there for many years
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>>718467739
>Paying for healthcare
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>>718467739
I pay for minimum disaster insurance. Haven't used it cause doesn't cover shit
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>>718473245
I pay 15% and have free healthcare.

My uncle got cancer and everything from meds to treatment was free like any other medical treatment, from broken bones to dental work.

So maybe inform yourself before drinking the bullshit they give you.
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>>718477088
In this case, it has to do with the billing codes Obama care has spawned. They billed it as "expended contagion prophylaxis with patient education". I reported it to the insurance company. They asked me to sign an affidavit attesting to the fact that a nurse just gave me a flu shot. That Drs. Office dropped me as a patient. Shot is getting fucked up folks.
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>>718474072
I pay 18% and if i break a thumb i don't have to pay 2000$ for treatment. All free. And in that 18% there's schools, roads, culture (maybe you have heard of culture, even if you retards spend your days watching trash tv) etcetera etcetera...
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>>718479353

Did you honestly just reply seriously to an obviously sarcastic post?
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>>718479262
> spin doctor
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>>718474588

How the hell is it 100k for lab and pharmacy? Shit, for 100k I could synthesize the drug compounds myself Yeah I know drug patents and all, but maybe patent upticks shouldn't be charged to the uninsured? After all, they have no informed consent as to what drugs they can take at what price (none of the doctors or nurses know the price of drugs and they might even judge you unfit to consent if you refuse treatment based on price).
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>>718473857
Nigger, you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Obamacare alone RESTRICTED interstate competition and created literal monopolies in a lot of states that ALLOWED those CEOs to hike premiums all they wanted because there wasn't 1 other company that could undercut them.

If you're going to try and armchair and hope no one calls you on your blatant bullshit, at least take a 215+ econ course so you don't make yourself look like a complete jackass next time.
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British.... so yes?
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>>718479262
Win/win right? I mean, you weren't considered going back to that doctor after they pulled that bullshit were you?
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>>718479639
>/b/
>not socially inept

pick one
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>>718475381

The worst thing you can do is work full-time at a low- or middle-income job, because that's where you don't qualify for any government assistance for shit like healthcare (or housing in some cities) at all, and any slips in your monthly bill payments will fuck you over completely.
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>>718468446


Meanwhile, a child on the other side of the country can get medications that her parents couldn't afford before, all thanks to Obama, and that extra 150 you pay.

But yeah, your right to a cheap insurance policy is more important.

inb4 poor people shouldn't have kids

there will always be poor people, because the system we live in ensures that not everybody can get ahead. someone has to lose for you to gain, you selfish prick.
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>>718480578
>they might even judge you unfit to consent if you refuse treatment based on price

This is a genuine thing in America.

>can't afford it, then you aren't allowed to make your own decisions.
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>>718469268

Average republicunt.
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>>718480640

Umm the state monopolies were already there dumbass. Health insurance was and still is an oligopoly. That's what you get when you demand a private-run insurance system and call any possibility of a public option that would create a competitive standard "socialism".
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>>718481234
Was waiting for the bleeding heart liberal to use the classic "think of the kids" excuse.

Taking away personal responsibility from poor families because the government will pay for their healthcare is not an incentive at all for them to succeed. If you think that works you've clearly never strolled through a section-8 where people literally pop out kids to get more money from the government.

Giving people handouts just incentivizes them to sit around fucking and doing fuckall all day because why not? Get free money for contributing nothing or go and get an actual job where you have to (gasp) actually work and pay your own bills?

Pull your head outta your ass, kid.
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>>718481321

It's more that "Doctor recommends medication A. Medication B is a possibility, but doctor does not recommend. B is out of patent and is 10% the cost of A and patient is uninsured. Patient does not refuse treatment but demands treatment against doctor's wishes. Doctor is perplexed that money could be more important than health and overrules patient's decision (since patient is not refusing treatment, which is a right)."
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>>718481415
No, nigger. Show me proof that there were monopolies in entire states BEFORE obamacare. You're so full of shit it's coming out your ears.

There IS no competitive standard in obamacare. It HAS created monopolies (which are illegal in the US) and premiums have sky-rocketed PRECISELY because of that particular legislation.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize what a failure the shit is? I can almost GUARANTEE you didn't pay a cent in health insurance before this shitshow was even in place or you would know for a fact the shit was cheaper. Literally the only people who say this is some kind of "victory" is poor dipshit 20-somethings who really are on some socialist bandwagon because they think it's 'cool' and their friends at school all cried when Fidel bit the dust.

You faggots really need to get out in the real world and stop listening to your douchebag commie professors drilling your head full of propaganda or you're going to have a hard time come graduation. It's not a coincidence that you idiots struggle more than 80 year olds in the workplace because your head's been filled with fairy tale nonsense.
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>>718481896

So, yet again, if you can't afford it, we will take away your right to decide on your treatment.

What a shock someone on a six figure salary with full insurance would fail to grasp why money would be an issue for some people.
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>>718482362

Please stop posting. Alt right numales are so fucking tedious.
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>>718481321
clearly youve never heard of the nhs if you think thats bad
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>>718473582
>I pay maybe 18% tax. How's your federal, state, local district taxes treating you?

this sounds accurate. I live in the US, make a middle income salary, and my effective tax rate was only a little bit less then someone living in Ontario, Canada. If I paid the Ontario rate, I'd actually pocket a little bit more money because I wouldn't have to pay for insurance.
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>>718476239

You utter fucking cretinous moron, read his post again. Fuck.
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>>718482543

Why would I not have heard of the NHS and what the fuck does that have to do with user pays healthcare?

Try actually being clear before choosing to post next time, retard.
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>>718482493
>i have no facts to back up my assertion I'm just a dipshit kid who knows "obama good" and "trump bad" with no rational or logic at all

Ok, fucko. Makes sense to me. Fall back on your buzzwords when you can't substantiate your obvious bullshit claims. Way to prove how "educated" you are, you passive-aggressive clown.
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>>718473582

My wife and I combined paid about 66k in taxes last year and got fined for one of her parents only having medicare for 1/2 a year due to the government fucking around with the application process. Thanks Obama.
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>>718483085

Not counting property taxes obv. That would be another 30k or so (we moved and are still selling our second house).
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>>718483083

I'm not the person you're ranting at. I just want you to stop posting because you're an insufferable cunt and every aspect of how you present yourself is infuriating. I don't give a fuck about your politics or who you voted for. Just shut the fuck up you cunt.
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>>718481234
This guy gets it.

>>718481787
Welfare cheats are a real problem everywhere. But we only hear about the bad shit... for every 10 people popping out kids for cash, there's 1,000 working shitty jobs, trying to make ends meet, keeping their kids in school, keeping food on the table, paying their taxes.

There's something wrong when the government can afford $2,000,000 one-shot missiles to drop on camels in sandniggerlandistan but can't give someone a couple hundred for medical treatments.
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>>718483433
>triggered by facts: the post
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>>718483085

Is there a point to this? Everyone knows Obamacare is a nightmare that got completely raped and warped into whatever it currently is by lobbyists. T

Why can't your stupid country actually do something good for yourselves for once? Oh, right, it's because paying politicians to vote against your interests is a legitimate business in the US.
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>>718482543

Relevance, your post has none.
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>>718483672

>desperate for (Yous) the post.

Notice how I'm not addressing anything you're saying and simply asking you to stop posting? It's because I don't give a fuck about what you think and I want you take your hands off the keyboard.
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Nope. Sure as fuck don't. I work a full time job and had great coverage 6 years ago. Now because of the dick shit bamer. I now have shit coverage and I am having heart surgery tomorrow. Oh and I still work the same job.
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>>718483575
Honestly people are fucking retards about welfare. The lazy fucks milking the system are not the problem. It's 99% old fucks on medicare. My grandfather had surgery a few years back after a heart attack. Between the helicopter flight and subsequent surgery you are looking at a cool 1/2 million to keep his old ass alive. Now, he's a lawyer and worked for a giant ass coal company for like 50 fucking years so he probably paid in enough, but most old fucks haven't. It costs hundreds of thousands in medical shit to keep old fucks ticking for even a year or two. How many rednecks and niggers can you feed for 1/2 a million??
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>>718482543

I have heard of the NHS. My mother worked for the NHS for a decade to try to make it better.

My father moved to France instead, got his healthcare there, and that worked out much better.

Not all single-payer is created equal, nor are all health policies created equal. What is shown in study after study however is that equal access healthcare is the most efficient and effective distribution of emergency and preventative services, and you do that with 100% insurance coverage. Whether you use Switzerland's model or Sweden's model is up to you.
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>>718483743

I'm just saying you get raped on taxes even in the US. I don't like government healthcare but then I've always had a job that offered insurance. Even working in a fucking gas station as a teenager I could get nice insurance. I know for people who can't/don't that shit sucks but I don't see the government making that shit any better. They just need to reform the fuck out of all things medical so it doesn't cost 16 thousand dollars just to have a testicle removed.
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>>718467739
Yes however since my workplace doesnt offer healthcare, if it wasnt for obamacare, id be paying double the price for shittier coverage through COBRA.

Thank you Mr Obama
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>>718483575
I never once used the term "welfare cheat" you imbecile. I'm talking about incentivizing people to not work. Two completely different ballparks.

>for every 10 people popping out kids for cash, there's 1,000 working shitty jobs try to make ends meet

I would absolutely love for you to back up this outrageous claim with some sort of citation but I already know it doesn't exist.

All you liberals know how to do is throw around extremes a "$2,000,000 missle" vs. "oh just a few hundred bucks at the hospital."

Tell me, hotshot, when's the last time the military had to fire off one of those $2,000,000 "one-shot missles" (you don't even have a fucking proper name for whatever munition you're talking about so i'm sure you don't have a clue. Now, what would you guess the cost from your average ghetto is when Shaniqua and friends (x100,000) going to the hospital once a year to pop out another kid?

Tell me the last time the military even fired off a multi-million dollar missle in the past 5 years. Basic artillery does not cost millions per shell and it's used more than any other battlefield ballistic aside from mortars.

Take your hippie bullshit elsewhere because you're definitely not ready for this adult conversation.
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>>718484053
You'd rather your grandfather died?
Pretty sure you're just trying to be edgy here. I'm hoping that's the case and there aren't really people who think like this in the world.
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>>718484643
I didn't say that. I wasn't trying to be edgy. I'm saying they are fucking expensive. People flip out about some niggers getting 350$ a month on their EBT and it's such a pathetic amount compared to what it takes to keep a single old fuck alive for a few years.
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>>718467739
>seeing a doctor costs $12
>getting surgery costs another $12
>any health care requirements during a whole year total a maximum of $140
>any costs beyond that are paid by the state
God I love socialism.
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>>718484489

>adult conversation

>his posts are furious, childish rants against imaginary le liberals
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>>718484992
Fuck off commie nigger
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>>718467739
I on my daddys healtcare plan
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>>718484994
I love how you dipshits keep trying so hard to put words in my mouth but the second i ask you for any evidence to back up your claims you go into full-on projection mode and call what I'M saying imaginary. You couldn't be bigger hypocrites if you fucking tried and it's just pathetic and obvious to everyone ITT.
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Married 24 yearold Marine Veteran who is now an unemployed college student. We (wife and i) have Badger Care (wisconsin's medicaid).
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>>718467739
I live in Canada. Lols
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>>718485281

I'm not making any claims. I'm just calling you out for being a ridiculous bitch.
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>>718484953
Ah... I see.
Sorry bro. Its all good
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>>718484336
>but I don't see the government making that shit any better.

How about going from "My job doesn't offer insurance and I can't get any due to PEC" to "Yay I can get insurance now!"?
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>>718467739
kek I'm fine
>tfw not an amerifat
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How does it feel to be in the shit tier class of murica? If your job doesn't pay for your healthcare youre a fucking nobody.
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>>718484356
>shittier coverage through COBRA

or worse, not getting the COBRA application in the mail on time (you only have 30 days to re-file) and then being completely fucked on your existing medical problems.

All I can say is thank god I moved to Massachusetts. Before Obamacare it had Romneycare, which was 100% identical, so depending on what gets stripped with Obamacare MA should have the system in place still to take up the slack.
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>>718485507
No you're just name-calling because you can't substantiate your claims and you didn't expect someone to call you on your bullshit. It's okay though, kid. Keep trying to save face, no one noticed, really. Keep pretending to be someone else.
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>>718485282

How are you not on VA?
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I think no free healthcare in murica would be good because it would essentially be eugenics for poor people, and its been proven that poor people, on average, have a lower iq. Therefore, by not having free healthcare, we raise muricas average iq.
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>>718467739
>Provides little/nothing to society
>Demands that society take care of him

k y s
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