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Ways to make money /b/, illegal, legal, immoral, moral, doesn't

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Ways to make money /b/, illegal, legal, immoral, moral, doesn't matter. Thread on making cash.
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Info graphics on drug making/growing are welcome
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bum
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buy drugs off of the deep wen and sell them to high school and college kids. You can make a ton of money from selling xanax, weed, molly, and aderrall and stuff like that. They but it up.
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>>717782660
*deep web
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>>717782660
no links or known websites on the deepweb
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>>717782660
Not op, but I've been thinking about doing this. How safe is it to buy drugs off deepweb?
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>>717782660
>>717782695
>>717782779
>>717783053

Have fun having your mail watched for the next year.
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>>717781819
Selling oats
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>>717783053
It's safe very safe for me. I have a friend who's been doing it for a year. He orders stuff online for people and it gets sent to their house. Packaging is super discrete. I've ordered a bunch of stuff like mushrooms, acid, molly, dmt, weed, and cocaine and its been a success every time. I was extremely unsure about it the first time
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>>717783743
don't they have scanners or some shit in the mail places?
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>>717781819
GET

A

JOB

?
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>>717783929

Dog you know the mail is federally protected and you need a warrant to use anything on it to find out the contents.
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>>717783929

Yes and they record every package that is shipped.

>>717784114

>dog

They don't need a warrant, they need probable cause, which is what you get when a dog alerts on it or it has too many items that redflag it in the system.
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>>717783743
>>717783743
I mean I would do it, I just have nowhere to send it to. I still live at parents house, and I can't send it to any friends houses and I'm not getting a PO box
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>>717784215

ooohhhhh, you are retarded, didn't catch that. Go read the Postal Service Act, or don't. Anyways I am a law student and I am telling you they need a warrant.
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>>717783929
They do, but a lot of the drugs are really hard to detect. They package them well because it's very professional. I received a bunch of acid in a resealed potato chip bag. The do deceptive stuff like that too. Like I said, I've ordered a bunch of times.
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>>717784469

>calls people "dog"
>claims to be a law student

Sure thing.

There isn't a law enforcement officer in the country that needs a warrant if they have probable cause that a crime is being committed.
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>>717784581
so how do you pay? like bitcoin?
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>>717784606

Friend you are either trolling or very, very stupid. Personally I hope it is both.

Open Wikipedia, Google federal warrants and maybe the Postal Act and later laws passed that added to it. Probable cause only gets an officer so far. There is a reason the fucking cartels use the US postal service to smuggle small amounts.
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>>717784795

I recognize I said Wikipedia and then Google. I am retarded too I guess.
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Buy Bitcoin
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>>717784795

>probable cause only gets an officer so far

u wot? Probable cause can allow for a warrantless arrest. You can do whatever you want with probable cause. In any case, a warrant (granted if probable cause is found, retard) is a joke anyway. The officer calls up a judge, explains what the deal is and a warrant is issued. It's not a real barrier to search.

Your friend is retarded for ordering it through the mail and he's even more retarded for telling everyone about it.
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Here's what you do. Assuming you're near a body of water with a marina or yacht club.

Go buy a black wetsuit, gloves, mask, etc and awaterproof dive bag. Then learn how to swim faggot. Then practice how to swim slowly and quietly. Scope out the marina or docks for a couple days, keep your phone with you and half ass play Pokémon go or some shit. But be watching who lives on their boats and what ones sit empty.

You can probably tell where this is going. Ideally you want boats people either A:live on, or B: are on the higher end. Go out at night and find somewhere a good distance away to get in the water and head for the pre determined marks.

Now you're not looking for jewelery or cash or whatever. Nobody keeps that shit on their boats unless it's a house boat they live in. What your looking for is CB radios, gps units, navigation, anything smaller and electronic. All of these units run anywhere from a hundred bucks to a couple grand depending on where you are, and guess what? Most these units are secured with a couple wing nuts a clip in connectors. 30 seconds tops to remove and throw in your dive bag.

Now GTFO. You only want to be on each boat for 3 mins tops each, and not hitting more than 3-5 boats. Get your lowlife ass back in the water and go back to your car, bike whatever. So now you have a bunch of Marine elections. DON'T GO TO THE FIRST PAWN SHOP AND SELL THEM TWO DAYS LATER. this is how you get caught. (I can elaborate on that later)

You hold on to all those units for a minimum of one month and before you go resell them you don't do it in your town you go at least one to two towns over. Yeah you do lose some money and travel and holding on to the pieces but you make it back in safety and not being a total retard and getting thrown in jail like I did
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>>717785237

Are you fucking missing the part about the US Postal service being different? Are you intentionally moving the goal post to avoid admitting you are wrong?

PROBABLE CAUSE DOES NOT ALLOW THE SEARCH OF US POSTAL MAIL.

There, I wrote it all big for you so maybe you can try putting together the words and understanding what you are being told.

Also you clearly have never once taken a law course
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>>717784097
This.

End thread.
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>>717785640

Probable cause allows searches of literally everything. It's the entire basis of our law enforcement system. There is an entire law enforcement agency within USPS who does nothing but catch degenerates like you.
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I buy fake mtg cards and resell them on eBay. I buy from Black lotus proxy service. http://m.imgur.com/account/JasonLungMTGProxy/albums
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>>717786023
Wow
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>>717785640

I mean, for fucks sake, do you think the mail exists in some sort of legal vacuum? It's liable to the same search laws as everything else. Stop pretending to be a law student when you're just a degenerate lmfao420 retard.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/probable_cause
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>>717785864
"Catch"

Gl proving a buyer's true identity. It's too easy to frame people, consequently buyers are rarely prosecuted.
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>>717784469
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http://twixar.me/7LC
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Just make shitty YouTube videos from your mom's basement and roll in the neetbux.
https://youtu.be/bfgp3Q3YWdo
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>>717786145

Buyers are prosecuted all the time. You don't have to prove anything.

>you accept a package
>officers search your house
>officers find bongs and other degenerate accessories
>you're arrested
>"b-but officer, I dindu nuffin"
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>>717786023
That's awesome. Are those lilis fake?
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Just buy broken/for parts computers or electronics on ebay, then go buy a new in box one from a store, and return the broken one a week later in the new one's box. Don't be dealin from the deep web.
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>>717786329
Yeah
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>>717785640
I see your point, and trust me it does make sense, but there are somethings that can actually be justified by probable cause. Say perhaps (HYPOTHETICAL) that a police officer heard someone mailing a large shipment of drugs, due to someone saying it without actual proof, and the office goes through the mail, its illegal. But lets say this is a package that leaked or a police officer is stopping someone trying mail something who is a drug dealer. Reasonable suspicion and probable cause would allow him to search the surrounding area for evidence and the letter being that evidence. The likeliness of this happening is a billion to one but it can happen so probable can be a reason but it has to be backed up with a fucking good argument/reason
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>>717785864

Welp I am done with you, clearly you are pretty god damn stupid and think probable cause covers everything. If you feel like becoming less ignorant go read on what I mentioned earlier. If not that's cool too, there are a lot of ignorant idiots out there and I doubt learning something new will help you much.
>>717786132

Did you fucking miss the part in the Postal Act that covers this? Federal Postage DOES exist in a slightly different realm of law, it's why there are legal specialists on it. Why does everyone on this fucking site act like they know shit even when they are dead wrong? Is it the anonymity?

Anyways you are equally stupid.


I'm gonna go jerk off and go to bed. Night.
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>>717786432
TIL all post office employees and local officers know the postal act like the back of their hand and are always good people and never bend the rules.
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>>717786379

Yep you are pretty much correct, once it is mailed it is a totally different ball game. Good to know one person here isn't dumb :)

Though in the situation OP specified his package would never be searched without a warrant.
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>>717786300
Not going to happen for small game

Buy a safe, this isn't rocket science. If you buy enough to be a target, you already have a safe
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>>717786543

Lol you are retarded as hell if you think the USPS doesn't take federal law extremely seriously. NO rule bending at all, like even a little bit. For one it can easily end you up in prison and for two it would be inadmissible in court.
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>>717786432

>I don't know what I'm talking about, but one of my degenerate friends mumbled something about the "postal act", go look there

Your mail isn't given more protection from legal searches than your house or your car or your asshole. It's the same standard unless you're dealing with a diplomatic pouch. You're a jackass.

Don't believe me though. I'd love to see you explain to your court appointed lawyer how the search was illegal because they didn't follow the postal act.
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>>717786023
Are you affiliated with stone Man?
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>>717786616

You really think the fucking safe isnt going to get searched?
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>>717786432
4. Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
Also this is what he is talking about. Its true and yes it makes sense people.
(https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx)
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>>717786744

Oh my fucking god, dude, are you kidding me?

YES holy shit, YES the United States Postal Service DOES have different restrictions related to the law. ITS A BIG FUCKING DEAL in a lot of cases involving mail.

If you mail with Fedex or UPS then it is the same as always but with USPS it is fucking different. I know I am raging but holy shit dude, I really am a third year law student and all the chuckle fucks on here poking holes with nothing more than made up shit is tilting me.
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>>717786934

FUCKING THANK YOU, if I was not on phone I would have done this myself.
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>>717786934
Side note
It doesnt say all mail, just first class packages. So anything thats not a thick package or large envelope can be searched without a warrant, but if its first class you cant legally search it.
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>>717787022

>third year law student

wut?

You've been arguing for 15 minutes about this. Post the relevant code or fuck off.
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>>717787121

Please, look up the standard that must be used for a search warrant (hint: it's probable cause).
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>>717787138

On mobile so I can't be bothered. Plus I know I am probably being trolled because there is no way several people actually think they are correct based on nothing other than their intuition.
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>>717787225

>I am being trolled

Post a pic of your law school ID
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>>717787212

Lol you do know a warrant is approved by a judge and they refuse regular warrants all the time if the only reason is probable cause.\

If it is federal mail they are very likely to refuse it based on that. Fucktard.
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>>717787299

Lol are you joking? I am not posting that on 4chan, even if it wasn't in my car in the fucking parking lot.
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>>717787327

Wrong.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/probable cause

Probable cause is the literal standard they use to issue warrants.
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>>717787410

Because you're lying.
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>>717782660
>>717783743
I'm this anon

The point is I've ordered at least 20 times and my friend has done it much more than that because he orders for people too. Been doing for a couple years and I haven't gotten in trouble or anything. Seems safe to me. Obviously there is a chance of someone getting caught, but it doesn't seem likely.

>>717784671
Also, yeah it's with bitcoin
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>>717787415

Dude holy shit you are dumb. It CAN be issued for that, judges still can and do refuse all the time. I wish you and anyone else that has never taken a law course would fuck off lol
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>>717787225
It's a law, so nobody breaks laws. Man, are you gonna be a shit lawyer.
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>>717787522

No, probable cause is the standard for search and arrest warrants. Every pre-law student and paralegal knows this.
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>>717787436

That's fine, I won't be getting it or posting it on here. I feel like I have left enough resources for OP to figure this out and not listen to 4channers for advice(even me)
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>>717787436
THIS
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>>717786792
If lea is searching your home
solely based on a single package, you already fucked up. Accepting a package at your residence is not illegal, even if you have to sign for it.
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>>717785332
You're a moron bro

Dumbest thing I've read here/10

Just befriend some of the rich old white people who own the boats, then steal that shit as an alpha would. Phuck da popo. Also if you're black you should just not even try and cash your welfare
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>>717787595

Dude, that is correct(mostly). (You got one!!!)

Doesn't mean it will always be issued and especially if related to federal mail. I won't argue this specific point anymore as I am super tired of the retards.
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>>717785332

>this
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>>717787686

Accepting a package with drugs is enough for probable cause to search your home for more illegal drugs.
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>>717787781

If the facts meet the probable cause test then the warrant will always be issued. Hell, they don't even need a warrant, they can just articulate the probable cause after they arrest you.
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Why are you niggers still arguing over packages
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>>717787629

>just read the postal act, lmfao420!

Yeah, wonderful resources.
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>>717788138

One anon has no idea what he's talking about, so he claims to be a "third year" law student while fumbling even the basics of probable cause, and the other anon can't figure out the first anon is a retard.
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Wow you autists. You guys are literally doing research and shit about laws.
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>>717788138
Because they're gay.

This is /b/ after all.

I'm surprised they're not posting pictures of packages on girls. Feminine packages. They're just arguing about first class and smuggling things in said packages, as naughty officers possibly search their package in illegal ways without a warrant.
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>>717788087

Did you gloss over all the parts about federal mail. You are beyond stupid. Like literal reading comprehension of a 5th grader

I really am done now, I left the info for OP and a bunch of sperg lords lost their minds over an educated individual voicing informed information.

Goodnight retards.
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>>717787971
And if they find no other drugs, and no paraphernalia, they have no evidence that you committed any sort of crime
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>>717788360

>all parts about federal mail

For the love of God, just post the part that excludes federal mail from probable cause searches.
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>>717788458

They have you accepting the mail, which they will correlate with your Tor activity.

Most degenerates won't think ahead to clean their house, so the cops will always find other drugs and paraphernalia.
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>>717781819
Be a 9/10 hot girl and literally do whatever you want on camera.
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It's funny because all of the package arguers think that they're outsmarting their opponent. In fact, anyone arguing about it is just as stupid as the other.
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>>717788360
U're mad tho.
Or wait.. Umad?
I can't tell but u seem determined to make ur point. Dream on, lawnon. I got ur back in the argument. Wes on 4chan and law schoologics don't mean a thang. u need to screech at people and poop out piss onto open hands that beg for food and water. only then will you be taken seriously in da cukole hivemind of bee.
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>>717788610

Not an argument.
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>>717788596
If you buy big enough to get that kind of attention, you sure do. Joe the next door pothead doesnt get raided by feds with shotguns for an ounce of pot.

Also, correlation != causation
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Might not be the sort of thing you're interested in, but lucerne hay (alfalfa) to feed cattle goes for around $250/ton, and you get between 5 & 9 tons per acre.

And you can get two or three crops a year. For fuck all work.
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>>717788836

No, the postal inspector finds it, forwards it to the local cops who deliver it and arrest the degenerate.

>logical fallacies hold weight on court

The thing I love about retards like you is that you're the type who will spend years in jail complaining about how your attorney screwed you because he didn't understand the law as well as you.
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>>717781819
Order a key off the web that fits soda machines

Also go to the local laundry mat, take note of serial numbers and order those keys too.

I've been doing the second for over a year, weekly increments. Usually average 70$ a trip. Which is cool, cause it only takes 5 minutes to make.
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>>717789211

Liar. They all use a cylinder lock. You can pick the lock with the appropriate pick, but there's no set key.
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>>717789153
Can you cite some sort of evidence ofthis happening as you've described? It would be pretty hard to prosecute solely based on accepting a package addressed to you. There has to be other evidence, otherwise it's officially the easiest way to (anonymously) get rid of a person you don't like. Double easy if they are already breaking some other law
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>>717786744
>court appointed lawyer

That gave me the best laugh in the thread. Thanks anon.
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Is there somewhere I can sell someones personal info? I.e. social email passwords, driver license?
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>>717783171
nice b8 faggot xD
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>>717789443
What do you think they use to access it so quickly you dumb Fuck?

Think every vendor has a million different keys?
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>>717789841

http://www.orlandocriminaldefenseattorneyblog.com/2012/05/drug-trafficking-via-express-m.html
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>>717789934
Craigslist
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>>717781819
Mods (for the pic)
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>>717790178

Post a picture of your key, underage fag.

You're bullshitting. You use one of these to pick the lock, there's no master key.
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Update the expiration date on this coupon
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>>717790200
"Whoever accepts the package will be arrested."

You can be arrested for looking at a cop wrong. It doesn't mean you can be prosecuted solely based on the fact that you accepted a package that was addressed to you.
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>>717790235
I have someones social security, credit card numbers, email and password, drivers license number ,cellphone number and home address. This person makes over 100k a year. This info has to be worth something...
anymore ideas?
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>>717790363
This has been a decent thread.

Don't be that guy, just because Kelly dumped you and is Fucking jayquan

>>717790507
What's with you wanting proof? You can't take my word? Use Google. People have been arrested for it. Do you think every washing machine has its own key? Every coke machine is unique as a Lexus?
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>>717790669
Kys
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>>717790677

>do you think every door, car, and padlock has its own key, there's obviously a master key for them all

This is what you sound like.
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>>717790669
Better off signing up for a credit card, outside of your WiFi network, and bying really expensive shit, then selling it for the low on Craigslist.

Don't try to sell it, if you got arrested let it be for credit fraud, not identify theft. You can probably get it reduced doing it my way
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>>717790713
Cant spend money of dead.
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>>717790828
Interesting, good point. A set up would be easy to fall into.
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>>717790677

Amazing how quickly you went from

>ive been doing this for two years

To

>i read about it online somewhere
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>>717790818
Use Google. Youll see that it's possible, and that the idea has been done.

>>717790961
Just order a bunch of PS4, find that one dumbass in your neighborhood who will let you ship it for a cut. But don't give much information to him, cause he might narc.

>>717791083
What do you want me to say? It's not hard. 20 some washers and dryers, and you think they all have different keys?
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>>717791201

>just use Google

Tubular locks are no different to key than any other mechanical lock. Some vendors key all of their machines the same, some have each machine on a different key.

Most soda machines are serviced by distributors who probably have all the machines they service on the same key. Laundry mats probably have all their machines on the same key too.

There's simply no database with all the key readouts on it because they can be changed on a whim. It would be analogous to saying every padlock or deadbolt can be looked up. It's retarded.
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>>717791201
I break into emails pretty frequintly. I just hit the jack pot on this one. Would be nice to have a consitant secure way to sell this info I get. Maybe ill make friends with the next scammy telemarketer that calls me... lol
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>>717791562

You're also 12.
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>>717791648
Sure a 12 year old that has someones credit application, buisness tax form, and someones mail.ecp email and password. Envy me
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>>717791859

Wow, you have literally 3 dollars worth of a dump. Give your mom her email account back. No amount of skateboards is worth the shame when your mother finds out.
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>>717791993
Lol you got a point. I could get grounded.
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>>717785332
My nigga. The only thing wrong here is the whole "you getting caught" part. I used to do this every now and then when I lived in Chicago. Security at the lakeshore marinas is incredibly poor. Sometimes they kept pretty good liquor on board too, which you can either keep for yourself, or sell to minors that are willing to pay. The best thing I ever scored was an ounce of dank buds, sold half and smokes the other; shit was cash.

If you're going to do this though, you NEED to learn the area you're going to hit and scope out people's nightly routines for at least a couple weeks beforehand you try anything.
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>>717781819
Daytrading
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yall niggas derailed this thread so hard talking about drugs and laws and shit


i just wanted to make a quick buck kys
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>>717792386

>yall niggas
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>>717786368
This is genius
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>>717791562
post it here and we will take care of it
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>>717789055
That's about 6k/acre/year, why the fuck don't I have 20 fucking acres of alfalfa? Holy shit.
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>>717792923

Because that doesn't include labor, delivery, or other costs. It's probably a good idea for some side money, but I'm sure the market is competitive.
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>>717793053
Also, the land isnt free...you will likely have to finance it and pay for years and years just to break even
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>>717793053
Even if I halved the price of my product, 3k/acre/year on 20 acres is a lot of money. It would take some a couple years to gain profit because of equipment, taxes, and other things you listed, but that doesn't sound like such a bad gig. Who knew farming brought in some sweet cash
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>>717787022
dude. no worries.
what you are saying is true.
I work there. sometimes we clearly smell the weed but we can't search it.
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>>717781819
>study hard in school
> become med student
> study even harder
> become doctor = $$$$

Its not that hard.
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>>717793501
It's very profitable, but it's capital intensive and one bad year can ruin you.
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>>717793763
>become doctor
>work 80hr weeks, $$$
>friends and family mooch, unmotivated and become degenerate
>friends and family hate you because you are not in their lives

FTFY
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>>717786023
you sir... are an asshole...
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>>717792386
Sell your pussy or male booty on the street. Start dealing weed or coke and don't get high on your own supply. The deepWeb seems good to get quality drugs for personal use but if you want to sell drugs for a profit find a real plug because it will be cheaper then ordering online. Or I don't know, you could rob a convenience store with a burner or even a dirty needle if you're like the junky scum in my city.
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>>717793763
Op is on B and wants to make a quick buck. Not all of us can be the lawnon that was posting earlier, you really think op had med school in mind ? Anyways you go crazy in debt just to get a post secondary education these days. I feel like you are fucked if you do or fucked If you don't.
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>>717793988
my family hasnt complained yet. albeit as a young doctor here in Denmark, i only work around 60 hours/week.

>>717794405
I finished med school 6 months ago, and i didnt pay anything myself, as i live in Denmark.
I could understand how the crippling debt would inhibit a lot of people from doing it though. Thank god i dont live in America.
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>>717786368
Wow, this is accualy smart.
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>>717787125
letters and parcels, and first class just means stamped and shit. fuck, fuck off
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>>717787212
you lost buddy, fuck off
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>>717787415
to a varying degree. an officers intuition and a judges judgement are different. you faggot
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>>717795187
>>717795047

It's black and white, samefag. Probable cause is the test they use to issue warrants. Officers can search without a warrant if they articulate their probable cause in court after the search.

Fuck off, fake law student.
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>>717781819
I do tarot readings on a little folding table on the street. I don't make a lot of money -- an average of $60-80 for a 14 hour day -- but it's not hard work sitting in the sun and smoking my pipe while I wait for punters. The real money is working bars. I hate working bars (they're noisy and the people are obnoxious) but I can make $200+ in a single night on a busy Saturday. And of course, all of this is tax-free.
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>>717788340
nah dude, the first guy thinks cops can just fucking open mail willy nilly, the law dick said no man. you need a warrent and postal stuff is tricky. then 1 to 3 faggots freaked out about probable cause even though it has a broad as fuck definition and theyre using it wrong.
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>>717781819
ive been doing a few things for a couple years to get some extra side cash.

1.
if you have any disabled friends / family. go to a primary care business and start working as your disabled friend/family's care taker. all you really need to do is punch in and punch out every day. and all ur friend has to do is periodically interview with someone and say he still need help.

ive been doing this for 2 years with my uncle who lives in mexico. he comes up every few months for his interview. and i just punch in and punch out from home every day.

2.
income tax.
its possible to get income tax even if you dont work. all you have to do is get someone with kids to agree to help you out. when you file your taxes just file under "self employed" have you friend with kids say that she pays you to to take care of her kids maybe 400 a month or so and there you have it. free income tax.

3rd.
claiming dependents.
if you have family living in other countries with children that where born in the USA you can claim their kids as dependents and boost your income tax by a shit ton. all you need to do is provide proof that they live in your home. this can be done with a simple mail letter that has the address and name of the kid you are trying to claim.


good luck op, also, dont get caught doing this shit lol
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>>717786277
Ha funny cuz so far u made 0$ unlike me

https://youtu.be/bAMKwm0uOIg
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>>717784114
Not all kinds of mail.
Usually ppl use the cheapest rate as well which is media mail and they're allowed to and do open those regularly.
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>>717791531
im pretty sure you can reverse lookup most padlocks and shit man..
>>
>bee me
>work for honey factory
>some bee sued's humanity
>no one works honey
>shit.jpeg
>bee hired as hitbee
>to assassinate that bee fucker
>shoot's to head
>evryone has honey
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>>717795324
im a same fag but not the law student. youre a fucking retarded. A mail worker even said in this fucking thread they smell weed in envelopes all the time and cant do fuck all.
>>
A bit off topic, but reading this thread has been interesting. Is there anywhere, like a sub on Reddit or something, where we can discuss questions like this one but that stay archived to read later on?
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>>717795324
and sure probable cause is the test, but whos probable cause? because alot of judges dont trust a single cops fucking judgement. and It has to be challenged again in court. you are one fuck face. also grabbing a letter with coke in it doesnt fucking hurt the sender or the buyer. just some guy is out a gram. you cant get in shit for mail that gets grabbed 1000 miles away from you. that would be retarded as fuck
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>>717796853
fucking normie
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>>717796951

Implying 4chan hasn't been watered down to the point where it's basically Reddit
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>>717797073
stfu you normie i will sue u like the bee in the bee movie u retarded 8 year old
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>>717797165

You rn
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>>717797387
*STARTS ATUSTICLIY SCREAMING*
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>717784795
>>717784838
http://www.rstreet.org/2014/11/19/yes-the-government-can-open-your-mail-without-a-warrant/
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>>717796795

>a mail worker on an anonymous emu breeding forum even agreed with me
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>>717797518
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>>717797694
*more atustic screaming*
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>717796949

>doesn't understand probable cause
>claims to get a law student to cover up his ignorance
>Hurr durr, you can't get in trouble if they find drugs addressed to you

Just stop. It's embarrassing. You've been arguing this for hours now and you can't even point to the relevant code that exempts mail from probable cause.
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>>717797693
practitioners of emu breeding probably know a fuckload more then you about just fucking everything
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>>717797904
Hey this is 4chan /b
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>>717797904
im not the same fucking guy! and anyone can fucking write your address on a letter. There is no way to get in shit if they pull your letter because you havent received the drugs. youre fucking stupid as fuck man
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>>717797862
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>>717785715
END IT!
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>>717798030
>>717797948

>u r a stoopid dood
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>>717797904
and you've been arguing this longer then anyone except for you're fucking wrong dude. Thats a key difference. You've been varying degrees of wrong about everything youve said in this entire thread and thats fucked!
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>>717798067
*gets gun*
>ur dead u atustic childman
*shoots in head*
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>>717798118
>go read up on it
>realise youre wrong
>have a long, deep introspection session and grow the fuck up
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>>717798233
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>>717798185

>ur wrong dood, the postal service can't open your packages, it's totally safe to send drugs through the mail, go ahead

>>717798304

>realise

Fuck off britbong. If you're going to argue about our laws, post proofs.
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>>717797904
>>717798185

Same fag
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>>717798118
im a different guy and i just want to say.
Probable cause means, smell weed - take weed
Warrent means probable cause, backed up with evidence/proof/ something tangible. potentially signed off on maybe then searched.

There really is a vast fucking difference
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>>717798451

Nice try, newfriend.
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>>717786368
Won't the serial numbers not match?
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>>717798509

That's where you're wrong.

Probable cause is the test used to see if the search was legal. A cop can get a warrant beforehand or articulate their reasons afterwards in court. Either way it's a judge deciding if it passes the probable cause test.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/probable_cause
>>
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>>717798445
fuck you man, it depend on the state and everything what theyre aloud to do.
BUT they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you bought drugs, to do that they would have to take your computer and shit and they can only find information if you were unsafe.
Also They probably cant fucking take your computer if all they found was an envelope with your name on it.
In order for you to get in shit they would need to do a sting operation, intercept the mail follow it to your house. watch you open it then bust you and prove you werent going to call the police an report accidentally getting drugs in the mail
Ive done all the research before. youre the one who doesnt know what theyre talking about. Why dony you fucking look it up.
Thats what smart people do isnt it? educate themselves? im not your bitch, but youre a fucking idiot
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>>717798641
thats cool man, but probable cause and a warrent are still not the same thing, just like they werent this entire fucking time
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>>717787629
>>third year law student
You are a L3? I do not believe you. Otherwise you would have said fucking anything other than durr hurr postal act.
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>>717798641
the reason for warrants as apposed to just "probably cause" are that probably cause is a very fucking abstract thing and can mean all kinds of shit. Therefore where mail is concerned and personal privacy can be invaded a warrent is needed to make sure that the correct standards were met.
YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
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>>717799223
just like buddy said waaaaaaay back
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>>717799089
>>717799223

If a judge finds there is probable cause, he issues a warrant. Read the damn link, don't believe me.
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>>717799223
probable cause*
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>>717781819
Hey OP, you should try selling your jizz to a sperm donor.

It's pretty easy.
After watching this retarded stoner argue with autistic law student for a solid fucking hour, I'm hard enough to unleash a fucking wave of dna on those poor fuckers.
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>>717798952

>what they're aloud to do

Fuck off, you literal nigger. Post the section of the postal act your stupid ass keeps referencing.
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>>717799306
you are such a stupid fucking nigger.
Thats right, good. but you cant just say probable cause and open the shit, you still have to show a judge and get a warrent.
you can search a house on just probable cause, you can search a car on just probable cause, you cannot search mail on just probable cause.

how are you not picking up what im laying down? are you a literal autistic person?
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>>717798952

You sound like every jailhouse lawyer I've ever met. You can't even understand probable cause, but you think you're qualified to give legal advice?
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>>717781819
Gold prospecting. All it costs are a shovel, a 5 gal bucket, a pan, some water, and time.
Rewards are free gold = money, outdoors for a little bit, and you can do it with your family, friends, or by yourself.
>>
cashing in my fucking pents
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>>717799369
Thats not the postal act im referencing you fuck face. im not even a law dick. That isnt about probable cause.
What im saying there is that even if they did get the warrent to open your letter and take the drugs there is nothing they can fucking do about it. You never had the drugs and they cant trace the transaction with that little evidence for a computer warrent
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>>717799481
"That searches made at the border, pursuant to the longstanding right of the sovereign to protect itself by stopping and examining persons and property crossing into this country, are reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the border, should, by now, require no extended demonstration."276 Authorized by the First Congress,277 the customs search in these circumstances requires no warrant, no probable cause, not even the showing of some degree of suspicion that accompanies even investigatory stops.278 Moreover, while prolonged detention of travelers beyond the routine customs search and inspection must be justified by the Terry standard of reasonable suspicion having a particularized and objective basis,279 Terry protections as to the length and intrusiveness of the search do not apply.280

TL:DR you're a faggot
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>>717799490
i know what probable cause is, you need to meet that to get a warrent. but there are things you can search on just probable cause alone then fight in court later. for mail you cant. you need a warrent. are you fucked?
why do i need to keep typing the same sentence?
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>>717799481

>how are you not picking up what I'm laying down

Probably because I'm not a retarded nigger. The "Postal Act" you idiots keep referring to only extends basic 4th Amendment protections to 1st class letters, it doesn't give them more protection than any other search. The only reason it needs to do this is because by default, the 3rd Party Doctrine dictates that giving anything to a 3rd party surrenders your right to privacy.
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>>717799701
we are talking about the usps not fucking border patrols and customs. you god damn rediculous fuck!
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>>717799712

You keep typing the same sentence because you never post any evidence that 1st class mail has additional protections. It doesn't. Even on a logical level it's absurd to believe that mail has more protection than your home when it comes to searches.
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>>717784917
Buy high, sell low. That's what I always say
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>>717799781
Customs inspects all mail coming into the country

You are a faggot and you talk shit. Any law student would know what the Customs Service is
>>
>>717799734
yeah exactly! so you need a warrent! even if you smell weed right there you still have to drop the lette and spend hours fucking around with a judge then come back and open it. Where if it were someones car you could climb right in and start digging around because the scent gave you probable cause
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>>717799617

>you fuck face

They don't need a warrant to open your letter, just like they don't need a warrant to search your car or your home. They just need articulatable facts that lead a reasonable person to believe criminal evidence would be found during a search.
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>>717799907

Customs doesn't need a warrant you faggot triple nigger
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>>717799907

The same standard applies to mail as does a car or a home. There's nothing in the postal act that restricts probable cause searches.
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>>717799838
how so? If a cop has a letter that smells like weed its not going anywhere? if a cop is outside your house and smells weed you could hide it by the time he gets back with a full warrant. so in the case of the house he can barge in with just his own probable cause but with the letter his thinking that its probable cause may not convince the judge. theres a difference. god
dammit
and buddy fucking posted it up at the top of this thread. go fucking look. i already read it so fuck off
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>>717799982
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT CUSToms, NO ONE HERE EVER WAS
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>>717800129
Customs inspects the mail you fucking retard. They don't need a warrant.
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>>717800009
4. Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant..
(https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx)
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>>717800225
IF IT WERE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY WHEN IT WERE SENT. THAT IS IRRELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION. YOU FUCK
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>>717800295
Postal inspectors work in collaboration with US Customs.

Customs can open anything they fucking want to without even needing probable cause.
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>>717800009
no man..
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>>717800062

>being this angry while bring completely wrong

Please, by all means, look up exigent circumstances.

>>717800295

Yes, that just extends 4th Amendment protections to 1st class mail. The reason for this is because by default, the 3rd Party Doctrine eliminates any 4th Amendment protections on mail. The vast majority of drugs aren't shipped by 1st class mail, so even this small point is useless.
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>>717800336
It's totally relevant in every way

Rage more, fucktard. Pop a vein
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>>717800409
yes, at the border, or upon entery to the united states. otherwise no
and im talking about within the united states, alway have been, so fuck off please
>>
>>717800129
>>717800336

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THE POST OFFICE CAN SEARCH MY STEROID SHIPMENTS?!?!
>>
>>717800468
the vast majority of dark web couple of gram shit is sent in first class mail. so youre fucking wrong. and exigent circumstances dont apply to mail, its never that urgent. youre an idiot. i provide sources and you just keep retarding.
>>
>>71780048>>717800562
>>717800483
all im saying is we were never talking about outside the US mail.. so it kind of is irrelevant
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>>717800525
Keep failing, fucktard

Customs works domestically as well

It's true a US Postal Worker can't open certain things, that's why Customs officers are there
>>
>>717800562
i dont even order drugs online.
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>>717800635

Exigent circumstances apply to everything.

>sorry judge, we had to check it because even a slight delay would have alerted them to the fact we searched the package
>OK, no problem

or

>ring, ring, ring
>hey judge, we've got a package that smells like weed
>sounds good, go ahead and search it, I'll email the warrant

Yeah, what a safe method of shipping.
>>
>>717800728
explicitally on foreign going or comming materials
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>>717785640
What if i told you a fed can get a warrant after they check and stillsend your ass to prison because to the feds you arent people and your social is nothing more than tag marking you as government property ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>717800781
Bob works for customs.

Hey Bob, check this one
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>>717800781
whatever, they cant do anything with it anyways. unless they build up a vast collection that keeps going to your house, im going to bed, Ive got people to fuck tomorrow. good luck having no lives and being internet autists
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>>717800828
Nope.
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>>717800911
Bye, loser

Nice fail
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>>717800911

Go ahead and do all the fucking you can now; soon you'll be the one getting fucked.

Make sure you write down all your legal theories too, I'm sure the traffic lawyer they appoint to defend you in federal court will find them amusing.
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>>717800951
gay
>>717800995
I still won
>>717801010
I dont buy drugs off the internet and i make 200k a year only working 6 months a year
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>>717801156
You won?
Already figured you were delusional
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>>717801156

>I make 200k a year working 6 months a year
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>>717801322
im fully satisfied
>>717801260
and marine engineering nigga, as second i made 43200 last trip before taxes for a little over a month
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>>717801560

>thinks bragging about a fake salary on the Internet makes him cool

Yeah, you're definitely the first person to ever lie on the Internet. Fuck off, degenerate.
>>
>>717801560
that was a fairly big trip tho
>>
>>717801631
What youve never heard of marine engineering? on fishing boats you make retarded money. my cheif makes 275k but we;re on one of the more profitable shrimp trawlers. even deck hands make 20k for 28-35 days
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>>717801631
i went to school for 4 years, there were fucking 5 people in my class at the end. We all got instant jobs. and i could quite today and have a new job by lunch time
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>>717801764

Goodnight degenerate liar.
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>>717801901
and i cant even fucking spell!!!
how does that make you feel!?
>>
>>717784097
What job?
>>
>>717801932
beleive what you want, but deep down you know im fucking ballin as fuck and youll never be on my level
>>
>>717802038
marine engineering, go to school for 4 years or so and you wont be able to not have a job. people will find you and track you down to work if you have over a 4th class
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>>717802103
fuck i sound like a douche, but seriously. sometimes its awesome to be awesome
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>>717802182
>marine engineering
I'm terrible at math.
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>>717781819
>Get a new gf
>get comfortable with them and close the having sex
>make her wear a blindfold, maybe tie hands so she doesn't take it off
>offer your friends to fuck her for cash
>profit

Itd prob only work if you either havent done it yet or the dudes dick is close to yours in size. But youre not just gonna ask a guy how big his dick is though, what are you some kinda fag?
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>>717802253
is that because you told yourself youre terrible at math and didnt want to learn it or are you a dumb person or a woman? and you only have to do math in school, youre basically a huge heavy duty mechanic, fabricator and electrician at work
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>>717802543
I don't know why, but math is really complicated for me. I do better than average in every other subject, but math I am terrible at.

Anything that is algebra or further then that is pretty hard for me.
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>>717798583
The serial numbers are rarely on the box. And if they are what retard best buy or walmart employee is gonna check?
>>
>"marine engineer"
>doesn't know about customs
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>>717802677
i never understood that, but i guess its hard to picture how someone else thinks. Im just to smart so i do badly sometimes because i dont have to put in any effort at all to pass anything. if i have even the base formulas i get 100 on math and physics shit though
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>>717803195
i dont ship stuff nigga, i dont even live in the united states. youre the ones who are retarded as fuck. im over that argument. my life is too dope to waste time fucking with 4 chan autistic fucks. i just get stuck here sometimes for old times sake.
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>>717803204
also using the interwebs has reduced my spelling to fucking garbage.
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>>717803309
You don't live in the US?

So why are you trying to talk like a nigger?
>>
just buy more money
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>>717803485
because you guys retardafied me so hard with your garbage american logic. And also earlier when i was expressing how hard i ball, which can only be done in nigger voice otherwise it sounds stupid
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>>717803605
How hard you ball? Chill, Talcum X
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>>717802800

No but people at the manufacturer get paid to do just that.
Cant hit the same stores too many times because they get wise to all your busted returns. Pay cash never give ID and youll get maybe a few shots at each store if youre lucky
Its a very short lived money making scheme and risk to reward ratio isnt really there.
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>>717803485
and beause my sleep schedule at sea sometimes fucks me on land and now i forgot to sleep the entire night and am feeling that sleep deprivation high comming on
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>>717803665
calm down, its meant to be satirical. Its just funny how you guys work at mcdonalds everyday for 30k a year and i work 6 months a year for around 200k and have an education but you still think youre somehow right about anything.
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>>717803705
Larping is gay
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>>717793279
Unless there's a farm house on the property which you could rent for the price of the financing.
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>>717803816
yeah man
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>>717781819
download videos off youtube and reupload them with a clickbait title, monetize them
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