You won't find happiness because you'll never be able to fuck an underage chick... we all wanna do it we just don't say it, quit being so gay and go find a hobby other than looking for a kid to bone like taking up an instrument or some shit... better yourself
>>717781239 I completely understand how you feel, but you are not hated by all. There are many out there who are trying very hard to understand what we go through. Do all pedophiles molest? Fuck no. look at the very little information that exists about it. Pedophile and Molester need to be separated once and for all.
I love you OP, hang in there. If you're seriously about ending your life, then you've got nothing to lose by studying Mindfulness tonight.
Find your inner divinity, and things will slowly begin to change. Honestly try seeking out Shota/Loli communities. Many of those people share in your pain.
>>717782628 OP here never have harmed anyone and do not want to i really do not like that society has these fucked up laws in place 18 is just a number i wish we could go back to the 1800s when 12 year olds were marrying 20 year olds i see nothing wrong with the two being in a consenting relationship ether.
>>717782212 I understand I might be being trolled, but what the hell. Let's do this.
Many paedophiles do not understand what it means to be a compassionate, worrying parent and a protector of others. They may never know how it feels to raise a child, to love it, to fear that child being taken away from them unjustly. They do not know the discipline and control needed to educate that child, to teach them right from wrong, to instill a sense of morals and ethics. They will not know the joys of something as simple as a smile, or an A+ on their child's report card, or their child proudly displaying their first car.
Thus, many paedophiles cannot be reasoned with. They know only their selfish, sexual gratification. Instead, revel in the knowledge that what you're reading, is the truth.
To any person who defends paedophilia, I respect your right to free-speech and the right to argue what you believe are "merits" of said-practice on a forum board.
Know this, however. Were I to meet you on the street and it was conclusive that you were a paedophile who had offended in some manner, shape or form, I would shoot you. I would shoot 50 of you. It's just a fact. I harbour no hatred toward you, just the knowledge that your demise would help create a safer society for our children to explore their innocence and sexuality among themselves.
Know that I am far from a "crazed, lone wacko" in this opinion. Multitudes of rational people would do exactly the same. Live in fear, or seek help. Adapt or perish. Your choice.
>>717782447 It's really sad how people can be so judgemental over sexual attraction. It may be taboo but thats literally only because society has made it as such. Honestly i think that there is nothing wrong with being attracted to children. Pedophiles get a bad name from molesters and child rapist. If you force youself onto anyone (especially a child) you should be considered a criminal. Consentual stuff on the other hand is fine imo
OP here yes i am 18-35 after that girls get old gross and over the hill but i know i will never be fully happy without the love of a young girl you normies do not seem to understand i want a relationship or to marry a young girl but i can not have that cause of the stupid system we have put in place here i do not wanna harm anyone and society does not treat my kind with any decent respect what so ever i am sick of being pushed around and discriminated.
>>717783886 Me personally? No. I don't necessarily agree with that, but the point is these things are case by case. I don't know every pedophile on earth, their beliefs, their intentions, etc. Anyone who rapes anyone whether it be child or adult is quite obviously a piece of shit. What if a 19 year old and a 14 year old legitimately happen to dig eachother and they both want to have sex? Serious question. I'm not saying I know the answer either, but it find it hilarious for anyone to pretend that they do, and for people to instantly judge people who feel a certain attraction they can't help. Some have it worse than others. This "all pedophiles are scum" is frankly fucking immature and uninformed drivel.
>>717783145 >Many paedophiles do not understand what it means to be a compassionate, worrying parent and a protector of others. You're just talking out your ass. You have no factual information to back that up >They do not know the discipline and control needed to educate that child, to teach them right from wrong, to instill a sense of morals and ethics. Your generalizing is absolutley disguisting. Pedo's arent monsters they are people just like you possibly even one of your freinds >They will not know the joys of something as simple as a smile Really dude!? >or an A+ on their child's report card, or their child proudly displaying their first car. You really dont understand as much as you think you do.
>>717783731 Oh I'm not kidding myself anon. I know for a fact he won't get help in this generation. It's unfortunate really. I used to be on the side of kill them all and let God sort them out. But I got more educated and less ignorant about them. I believe now, that if they were treated for this instead of imprisoned and left untreated. Society would be a safer place for our kids.
Again, they're not going away. Maybe find a way to educate yourselves. Or maybe we can just burn people at the stake like we did in the middle ages with Witch Hunts and bullshit. Oh wait, that's basically how it is now.
You realize that even if these people want/seek help that it's essentially life ruining to do so? You fucking idiots act like it's easy. I say again, get a clue. Learn empathy.
>>717784907 >And what if it were you who had sudden inexplicable legimate feelings towards someone you couldn't have? Would everything be rosy then? I think people are probably scared to even imagine being in this situation
>>717785133 Oh right anon lets understand them they aren't doing anything wrong we should add them to the LGBTQ +P community we don't want to offend them or make them uncomfortable. We should also give em safe spaces to protect them from racist bigots ..... lmao fuck off anon
>>717783079 I know you don't want to harm anyone Op. I know you have a struggle inside. You are attracted sexuality to children yes, but deep down you know you wouldn't because you know that would just mess up a child who is not ready emotionally for sex.
>>717786072 You sound like what people used to sound like when people talked about gay people ;)
How's it feel to sound like a callous, unempathetic, douchebag with dinosaur thinking?
You're saying we shouldn't listen to them? Again, pedophiles are people. No matter what bigoted shit people wanna spew about pedophiles it doesn't change that they're human beings with feelings. It's embarrassing as fuck I even need to say this at all lol.
>>717786246 I never said it was. I was implying that stuff like that and virtual sex (a simulation) could be a possible answer.
Being attracted to children isn't the issue, it's acting on it that is. Like others have said, you need to separate pedophiles and sex offenders. They're not the same thing, no matter how badly you want them to be.
>>717786923 Not seeing the logic here, sorry. One can't control an urge.
You think every single female teacher that has fucked a kid deserves to die lol? For real? Yeah, what they did was wrong and shitty (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here even though we know all those boys loved fucking their teachers) but like I said, there's zero logic in your bombastic "kill yourself" suggestion.
If it were you, you wouldn't kill yourself. You'd feel guilt and wrestle with yourself for a long time. You'd find other ways to get off. You'd bite the bullet and have a gay or straight relationship with an adult. But in your heart of hearts you'd deep down have that desire you can't control. Now put yourself in those shoes and tell me how it might feel. Again, I'm not saying raping or engaging with kids is alright, don't put words in my fucking mouth.
>>717786921 >But normal? No one is normal Anon, not even me or op. But mostly op. It was normal back in the day for adults to marry kids or be in relationships with them why is that a problem now?? i know cause society has been brainwashed also you are not a true pedo if you do not wanna be with little girls you are just a fag In my honest opinion once you start going into puberty- adolescence you should be considered an adult not a kid.
>>717787165 >Are you comparing same sex relationship to having a relationship with a KID It wasn't my comparison to begin with i was just pointing out the holes in the logic. tell me whats wrong with having sex with a horny teen besides the fact that its illegal?
>>717787558 Eh. Let's be real here. I'm arguing for pedos here but yeah having sex with a teen is bound to mess them up in some way. It's not a sure thing, there's different levels of it, and it's case by case, but I'm willing to bet sex with a teen is gonna have some kind of negative effect on their life. But I don't subscribe to that bullshit that a minor is automatically exempt from making that decision for themselves. As the number goes up it's more likely they're able to make an informed decision. I don't have any illusions that a 5-10 year old for example would be aware of any possible repercussions when having sex.
An easy solution is to lower the age of consent to something like 16 or 17, which it already is in several places, and even lower in others. That would change things big time. Also, maybe allowing parental consent or the consent of many others to do so.
A 19 year old teacher being convicted of "rape" for having consensual sex with a 17 year is straight up bullshit. Even an irrational pedo hater can see that.
I don't see there being any solution for ages under 15 though. That's going too far, as much as it pains even me to admit.
>>717781647 Im committing suicide this year too but i have to go about my day to day as if its all normal. I plan to do it a week before my birthday wby? 12 of march (so the 6th) btw should i stream it on fb or is that going too far
>>717787881 lol not trying to sound condescending but who actually makes to 18 before loosing their virginity? is that even a thing? I lost mine when i was 12 XD seems ridiculous to me that they're are laws that would keep me in chastity for the years of my life that i was the most sexually active. I did have sex with one 23 yo guy when i was 14 and would do it again, it was the best I ever had. I'm 21 now, I'm only attracted to older but I dont have any problems with people like the guy i was with. I think the legal age will get lower for that reason but not for a very long time.
Leave a nice note making up something about hopelessness or depression so people say nice things about you at your funeral.
Go out and spend some money on a nice dinner too, last meal and all. It doesn't really matter if you're not in a financial position to, considering any money you borrow from some institution wont need paying back.
Lastly go with a gas suicide. Something like helium or carbon monoxide that wont hurt at all. Seems like a nice way to go anon
Suicide is the very definition of the most selfish thing one can do.
Anyone with a family that commits suicide is borderline a douchebag. I get that things can get painful, but I truly believe there's always another option. Do something good. Make the change. I don't give a fuck which sarcastic pussy makes fun of me for this cheesy shit but life is beautiful and precious. Make the most of it.
Suicide is bullshit. It's awful. No one should commit suicide unless there's like LITERALLY no other option.
If someone legit has no family then MAYBE it's "okay", but when people have a real family/people who love them that shit is just wrong. Don't do it. Don't put someone else through that pain.
>>717788589 >who actually makes to 18 before loosing their virginity? Pretty much everyone on /b/ its pretty normal here kek >I lost mine when i was 12 I lost mine at 16 but had plenty of sexual experiences before that >I did have sex with one 23 yo guy when i was 14 and would do it again Story time?
>>717787414 >One can't control an urge. Actually, you can. If you become sufficiently proficient in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy or self-hypnosis, you actually can unlearn desires and force learning of useful habits and desires.
Note this technique is subtle and requires a pretty sophisticated mapping of your own consciousness to well groomed psychological literature- which is non-trivially difficult. By "well groomed" I mean knowing how to sort out the bullshit- ignoring competing schools of thought for which there is insufficient experimental evidence to weigh for or against. Most psych is non-replicable and flimsy.
My main evidence that this is possible is that myself, my wife, and my father have all used it to considerably alter our life habits and desires in various ways. Removed phobias, eliminated addiction without any withdrawal, and altered our attitudes about dieting and fitness. Wife may have went too far, and now enjoys the sensation of hunger with a sort of masochistic extremism that has her precariously underweight.
At any rate, the techniques work for a certain range of behavior modification. Note that it can't correct serotonin or dopamine imbalances The question is whether you can properly master and apply the technique. And I probably shouldn't be giving you hope when the safety of others is at stake. Just because a solution exists doesn't mean its likely you will prevail.
>>717781842 Just addicted to causing harm to the people most unconditionally trusting and most vulnerable. Maybe don't kill yourself OP unless you can't get a shrink then kill yourself before you do permanent damage to someone.
>>717782094 Pedophiles are not people. They are sick monsters who should be put down for the safety of all. If you want to leave your home address here I would be happy to debate the matter with you in a more intimate setting :)
>>717789875 Scroll through this thread dipshit. Put on your thinking cap, you might need it.
Or you could just keep on with your shitposting, I don't really care.
No one hates me. Everyone loves me. People like me got the drop on idiots like you who don't realize that most pedophiles are "normal" people. Your dad might be a pedophile, your best friend, etc. Would you be so quick to tell one of them to kill themselves?
>>717782212 Coming to 4 chan for sympathy is kind of like going to the gynecologist to get a prostate exam. Sure she may shove her fingers up your but and hunt around, but more than likely she'll just kick you in the nuts.
Over the past couple weeks, I have been crawling in the Incest/Secrets threads, and a fair bit of anons have stories of fucking very young girls and being as old as in their near 40s even.
Trick? Look attractive.
Meaning, work out, make yourself look good, dedicated your appearance to looking alpha, so much so the older females want you. And then, find yourself in situations in which you get within their general bubble of frequent exposure and then boom, THEY will come to YOU.
For instance: >One Anon said that he lived in an apartment with a dance studio under it, and had 3-4 11yr olds sucking his dick and going nude for him and his age was 30s.
>Another anon goes on omegle fairly frequently and gets young girls to strip and do watever he wants them to, because he's good looking and/or fit.
>Yet another anon struck gold by working as a part time job as a tutor and at a school, and the young girls just started hitting on him sending nudes and masterbating on skype for him, because why? he's fit and good looking.
I can go on and on. Get /fit/ fellow brother, and partake in the oats. You can do this
>>717782094 >This might shock you but Hitler is a person. you morons >If anyone should be assasinated it is the people who talk about things they know nothing about said all of europe and america in an alternate timeline where they rolled over and let germany take over.
If OP can't keep his dick in his pants while at a preschool he should kill himself before he causes irreparable harm to a persons life when it's just starting.
Whining shits... You hate pedophiles yet you visit an image board of which 90 percent of its members are twisted fucks and pedophiles.... Where in the hell do you think the pedo bear was created??? 4chan still uses it
>>717790438 Smells of newfag internet tough guying. Everyone knows that Pedo's are too pathetic to stay in stable relationships. Just all worthless shit bags who like to knock a woman up and then let the marriage fall apart so they can rape their own children.
>>717789598 No, not really. This isn't the 12 step method. It isn't abstinence or denial. It's mindhacking yourself to not want it in the first place.
Example: My dad quit smoking after 41 years, cold turkey, no withdrawals whatsoever. No grouchiness. No weight gain. No oral fixation. This was ten years ago. Since then there have been several occasions where he has joined me for a ceremonial cigar. College graduation. Wedding. Family Reunion. Occasional Christmas. Not once has this resulted in anything resembling a relapse.
The difference is he no longer wants to smoke. Most people fight addiction by wanting their fix but choosing to abstain. When you implement CBT properly, you interrupt and override any thought contrary to your chosen desire. If dad ever began to think "I want a cigarette" he would interrupt it and say "no I don't, actually" and that was the end of it. No dwelling on it. Just go on with something else.
The dwelling on it is the mistake addicts make. It reenforces the desire. Every thought you have wires the neurons in your brain together. You have to decide not to have those thoughts anymore- and then simply not think them. This is subtle, and requires mental discipline many scholars today still think is not possible. I know it is because I, my family, my friends have done it. But there isn't complete bodies of evidence for this in psychotherapy.
Next time you have a sexual thought, just override it with a firm denial, followed by an immediate distraction. What you're doing is breaking a feedback loop. This implies going sideways instead of following the loop of "want but don't want but want but don't want". Literally, it's a "This statement is false" loop you're reenforcing. And don't get stressed out if you don't succeed the first few times. Getting stressed out is just feeding the loop again.
At any rate, implemented successfully, relapse is just a non-issue with this method. It simply isn't relevant to you anymore.
>>717781239 OP, brother, listen to my advice >>717790371 I myself shall be following my own advice. Use your insatiable attraction and lust as motivational drive for getting /fit/. Me and you, we can do this
>>717790665 Yet scientific studies have shown that maybe 1 out of 100,000 people can quit that way. If you actually understood the addition process you would not spew pure filth out of your mouth when you tried to talk about it. Go suck a dick
>>717790665 Fuck quitting anything. I'm addicted to sex, love that shit, and always will. Do I like little girls? Fuck yeah, but I also like black chicks, Asians, milfs, bbws, love all the hoes. Am I fucked up? Probably, there's a reason I visit 4chan you moral fags.
>>717790147 Pedophiles are normal people with an uncurable mental condition that makes them a danger to a vulnerable group of people. If best friend is a pedo I'm not gonna let him babysit and if that lack of trust is gonna be what brings him to suicide I'll still sleep guilt free.
>>717790375 If pedophiles are gonna continue to exist maybe we want to find a way to solve this disorder and treat it properly without sweeping generalizations and witch hunts that leave these people isolated and hopeless.
I never said raping a kid or anyone is okay. That's not what's being discussed here. Everyone at the end of the day is in control of their actions, but people need to understand the amount of pain these people go through. No pedophile is happy unless they have some kind of outlet or can suppress how they feel (and does that sound happy to you? Hiding how you feel from everyone in your life and feeling completely alone and scared because how you legitimately feel.
There are people in here trying to have a legit conversation aside from the immature driveby fuckheads.
Google news. Plenty of married pedos who were in stable relationships, just couldn't control themselves.
I control myself. get horny, fuck wife, move on. Just saw a 13yo in some yoga pants with a lil cameltoe and too much cleavage for her age? Wife getting fucked hard tonight! Yes, at times brain hits fantasy land while fucking wife and imagine bangin the slutty looking kid.
>>717790886 >>717790949 Did you not see my previous post fag? I'm all of the above. Don't categorize me you Christ believing Jew. You are on 4chan, the fuck where you expecting to find other than a pedo? Jesus? Get the fuck out of here
>>717791358 Then why the fuck are you on 4chan? There are plenty of actual good communities on the net where you can have a conversation on a mature level and you come to 4chan for one? You are a dumb fuck.
>>717790759 1 in 100,000, all of which are concentrated in my family and people I associate with? Unlikely. It's a learnable skill, once mastered- given the willingness and mindfulness to learn it.
I suppose you could argue that all of us were never addicted to anything at all. That after several decades we were merely mistaken about our habits, and were able to abandon all these things without difficulty. But that just seems far fetched doesn't it?
At any rate, I'm well aware the scientific literature has not caught up with this school of thought. Psychology is very flimsy at this time. AS a science its barely in its adolescence anyway. Publication bias is at a historical high, Mandarinization of the higher education is becoming increasingly evident, and there is little to no replication study. The fact that there is widespread bullshit in genuine mainstream scholarship is not the least bit surprising. For fucks sake look at the Bem studies on parapsychology.
So I reiterate- my main evidence is the fact that it works. Multiple times for myself, and those around me. It's replicable. But of course- the plural of anecdote is not data. I already said it is somewhat irresponsible to be giving OP hope, as he's not likely to pursue the rigor or acquire the expertise needed to accomplish these techniques. If your aim is to further promote OP's suicide, by all means don't let me hinder you. It's a sad thing, but probably a utilitarian decision.
>>717791723 Well, lots of stuff, try typing in colegiala on xvideos and you'll find actual middle school girls having sex. It will work on most porn sites actually... Content management is horrible because they don't know Spanish phrases... You can also search these words on porn sites... Secu, primita, colegiala, morrita, jovencita, secundaria,
>>717791685 Do you know who you're talking to? I've been in support of pedophiles this entire thread.
My point was I still wouldn't let a pedophile (assuming I knew) babysit my kid. And I agree with you that there's no way to know who a pedophile is, which is a point I brought up earlier being that anyone can be a pedophile, even people you are close to.
>>717791912 Explain how it's inhuman to find a young human being attractive whether it's sexual or not. That's some PC horseshit you've got there.
>>717791939 actually I did that once. Ended up talking to an eldritch terror with a very long name that started with an X. Xhiledelaxilexidheu I think. It revealed to me a truth I already knew deep down. That I don't actually exist. This didn't really make any sense, but in a fucked up way I think its true.
>>717791956 I already mentioned this earlier. Some nice double standard hypocritical shit out there in the world. Most guys who aren't prudes would fucking rail an underage girl (young to mid teens is a better example) if they could get away with it. But go a few years younger or change the sex and all of a sudden it's OH NOEZ!!!!1
>>717792399 >n the eyes of the law they're the same thing. That's just a different wording for it but anyone who has sex with a minor is essentially labeled a pedophile.
That is only cause society is fucking retarded i recommend watching a 2012 documentary film are All Men Pedophiles great movie speaks some truth about our culture history and why the anti-pedo propaganda is wrong on so many levels.
>>717789131 hope you're into bdsm.... I'm 14 and always horny. Have sex with my hischool friend all the time after football games. (only time my parents didn't care where I was) He's pretty Vanilla as fas as I know but in any case I'm to shy to ask him to not use a condom and to be more rough. He has a brother though that is visiting while his semester of college is over. (23 yo college football player) I know he's into dominating girls because I found him on fetlife but not sure if he'll go for someone my age. I say fuck it and reach out to him on fetlife because im to nervous irl. I tell him that I really want to be tied up and fucked until i cry and then have his cum leaking out down my legs. I send a bunch of nudes so that he doesn't think im baiting him but he still doesn't believe me and kind of avoids me when im at the house the next day visiting his brother. I excuse myself and go into the guest room where he's still avoiding me and I ask him again and start to pull my panties down in front of him. He kind of panics for a sec but finally reacts and says "not now are you crazy!" we kind of akwardly stare at eachother for a few more moments before he finally starts talking to me and we eventually work it out so that he'll fuck me next weekend when his friend leaving for an overnight party and agreed to let him crash for the night. He picks me up after school and we head straight for his friends house. before we get out I have a sudden outburst of excitement and tell him to make me his bitch for the rest of the night! He smiles and grabs me by the hair and shuvs me to his crotch. Says, "dont worry little slut you wont be talking so boldly when we're inside" We get inside and he immediately shoves me to the floor and tells me to take it all off. He's pulls a leash and collar from his back pack and straps around my kneck then pulls the leash under his legs and forces my face into his balls....im tired of typing now sorry
>>717792233 That's dumb. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent girls. If a girl is 16 it shouldn't be considered pedophilia to think she's hot. Whys it okay for a 16 year old to think she's hot but if you're a little over 18 it's not? Talk about stupid.
>>717792286 >Anonymous Go nuts... The term pedophile and all that shit is frowned upon in Latin countries, but... It's also normal. You can actually still go to some places and buy a young girl with her parents approval.
in my opinion, there should be a law establishing the age of consent to 13 up, i mean, have you seen this girls now days, even if the are 13 they look like they are 18, anyone feel the same? anything 13 up should be ok, anything below that should be penalize
>>717792693 I agree. Just telling it like it is. Cool, maybe I'll check it out. I agree with that, I've "joked" with a close friend about that before. I think many, many people are pedophiles, just some can hide it better than others. Like I said before, most people with laws removed would go fuck crazy with boys and girls of all ages.
Half the pussies in here crying about pedophilia would run right out and fuck the brains out of the first underage girl they see, and they fucking know it.
>>717792701 Yup. Non pedos in this thread are getting fuckin eviscerated lol.
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