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Anyone else find it ironic that the Democrats were screaming

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Anyone else find it ironic that the Democrats were screaming about Trump threatening to kick out people from other countries (who are here illegally), only to watch Obama kick out Russians(who were here legally)?

Are there people really too stupid to not see what's actually going on here?
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Yes they are. Look at the last 2 years. The modern libcucks are the most hypocritical morons in recent history and they don't even realise.
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>>717689537
>Are there people really too stupid to not see what's actually going on here?
Yes and you're about to see a demonstration. Look below this post.
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>>717689718
There is nothing below your post. This reply is now false
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>>717689787
that nigga is one dumb nigga. "below this post" means everything below it.
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>>717689537
amen brother.
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Now id only Germany could get rid of Merkel.
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>>717689892
He dun goofed.

Shit, we all dun goofed.
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>>717689787
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>>717689537
>Muricans
>Smart
pick one
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>>717689537
Is it really ironing to expel spies?
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>>717689787
>Are there really people too stupid

Found one!
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>>717689537
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>>717690496
we got a live one
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>>717690309
2/10 low quality bait. I think I'll buy my bait elsewhere.
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>>717690555
Nice trops tho
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>>717690496
moar
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>>717689537
Obama tryna look badass near the end of his "I'm the President!" moments. It's pathetic and cringeworthy how Putin didn't give a fuck....
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>>717690555
there was a time when anons would roast you for using the wrong size/format on a EFG pic
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>>717690316
They weren't proven to be spies. It was just a knee jerk reaction from the administration to show force. About the equivalent of spitting in the face on the playground. And it didn't work. At least it didn't achieve the reaction Obama wanted. Which was a knee jerk reaction from Putin.
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>>717690846
how bout you go back to hell
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>>717690316
Demofail whistle-blower leaks emails detailing some of the massive corruption in the party
>blame the russians so we can stay corrupt
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>>717690846
There was also a time when faglords didn't know this place existed. 8ch /b/ is more like home than this place these days

>back in my day
>barefoot
>uphill both ways
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>>717690899
How "bout" you go back to tumblr captain autismo
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>>717691064
Want do you try just a bit harder, cupcake.
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>>717691189
>too illiterate to make legitimate response

Your spaghetti is falling out of your pockets friendo.
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>>717691064
>(You)
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>>717691315
Ffs can you stop responding to an obvious troll
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>>717691315
I was too busy sticking my finger in your mom's asshole to type that correctly. Stop being triggered and lighten the fuck up. You have the the emotional complexity of a dying cat.
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>>717691487
I'm the troll? You cocks are hopeless.
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>>717691539
>rustled
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>>717691539
So? Dying cats are cool and don't afraid of anything.
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>>717689537
Nice gif. Too bad the majority of illegal immigrants come here by plane legally and stay on expired visas. Your saviors wall is a huge waste of money.
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>>717690963
>widdly scuds
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>>717691900
Those illegals are the cool ones we wanna help stay legitimately. The rapists murderers and drug dealers are 99% coming in over and under the border. That's around 3M of the 11M illegals in the country. Worth.
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>>717692134
And seriously all it would take is renewing the visa. Wtf. That's like saying voter id is racist because "ain't nobody got time for that"
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Cuck Liberal Fascist Cuck gr8 b8 m8 u wot Cuckold Kingcuck WWYD?

Fucking Cuck FB thread celeb Trump derailing fap threads, all about traps and cuck.

Fuck 9gag, post spodermon
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Just make it where no one who isn't an American citizen can buy any American products, or work american jobs. Should keep them out.
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>>717689537
>Democrats

Do you expect anything other than hypocrisy and idiocy from them OP? They've got their fucking blinders stuck on and refuse to acknowledge they're there.
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>>717689537
Fair point.

But yes, this is how much liberals are retarded.

You can't see the light when you're blinded by your own mediocrity, and you actually don't WANT to see it.
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>>717692349
They know the blinders are there, they just want to fuck you into wearing the same blinders
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>>717689537
Democrats whine and republicans bitch and moan. You guys are annoying as fuck. Can you guys shut the fuck up, please?
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>>717692458
>he says, while crying and moaning

Shiggy
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>>717690963
8ch is honestly so much better. It's where all the old school /b/ anons went. These new anons don't know anything about the glory days of raids and ruining lives.
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I'm so happy I helped elect a man in his late 70's who posts passively-aggressive Tweets like a teenaged girl on her period into power.

Pass me another Coors, Billy Bob.
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>>717692635
>implying twitter isn't a direct line to the people without the media being able to spin what he says

Nice try dumb fuck. Ironically you seem barely smart enough to be one of the inbred rednecks you're trying to insult.
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>>717692535
No, just annoyed. You guys are like a fucking broken record. Fuck, bitching and moaning from both side won't get shit done.
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>>717692635
>the new president is saying mean things
>where is my Obama that everyone uses as a fleshlight?
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>>717692874
Yet here you come from a third direction, bitching about other people bitching topkek. What do you expect from American politics? From any politics, really.
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>>717689537
Yes, yes there are
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>>717692874
Yeah, how dare the president have the nerve to speak directly to people and say what he's actually thinking! What a crazy person!!
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>>717689537
You know what rhymes with Trump?

Dump.

I rest my case
/thread
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>>717693752
Whoops, not meant for you. Sorry mate
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>>717693817
>threading your own post

ECHO ECHO echo echo echo
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>>717693817
So does "hump"

Which is what he did to Hillary during the election.
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>>717693817
This may be , the dumbest thing I've ever read on /b/
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>>717689537

>Anyone else find it ironic...

Not really.

What I do think is ironic however is how an orange has segments but apples are sometimes green or red. I mean, what is up with that?
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>>717694039
and his daughter throughout her formative years
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>>717694099
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>>717694162
Gotta grab em by the pussy early anon
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>>717689537
POTUS is a dictator who by choice respects the public's voice. He doesn't have to.

The thing is that (often) whoever ends up being POTUS is faivored by the voters and the more or less by unelected people of power.

Trump is not really somebody who understands connection between action, cause, and result. So first things first; he's a bit dangerous. We don't know if he's a got a really good poker face or if he's a bit crazy. This is because he has no history in politics. His history in the business world would point towards him being a swindler and a crazyman. Whatever he would say, or whatever executive orders he would push, so would happen.

As you might understand while Trump appears really attractive in the public's eyes, he's still a massive threat to the very same public. Not because he's only a mad man with no real plan, but because he's a mad dictator who can execute a seemingly good plan.
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>>717691539

>emotional complexity
>dying cat

Wew lad.
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>>717694204
exactly. Do you know what else I find ironic? OP's gif, considering Trump has now completely backed away from the idea of building said wall.
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>>717693817
You know what rhymes with obama?
Yo mama, so I guess that makes him a disgusting fat whore.
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>>717694265
damn straight
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>>717689537
>doesn't ask why they were kicked out
>thinks he's found some logical inconsistency

you're a tard.
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>>717694536
I wasn't inviting you to keep going, I was just likening your flaccid attempt at humor to Jerry Seinfeld's "what's the deal with airline food" bit.
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>>717694382
Just look up the massive list of politicians who have voted on issues against what their constituency wanted... having a political background isn't exactly proof that he will execute the will of the public.
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>>717694868
>having a political background isn't exactly proof
no but having it means you understand why things are the way they are, and you have a notion of consequence to your action. Trump fundamentally lacks that.
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>>717694808
Aaah, common misconception; Jerry Seinfeld never made that joke. He was in fact making fun of those who made those sort of jokes.

The more you know, eh kid?
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>>717694773
> assumes not asking the question on an anonymous chat forum is the same as being uninformed
> thinks he knows anything about logic

Good assumptions
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>>717695049
>implying I didn't know that

I think you've misunderstood my point, cheif.
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>>717695107
>cannot follow the guy's train of thought that made him reach that conclusion
>thinks he's found some logical inconsistency
>assumes that the viewpoint he has isn't self-evident from the nature of the question he's asking
>doesn't understand the first thing about inference
>thinks he knows anything about logic

right back atcha
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>>717695234
> being a nigger

You lose.
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>>717694536
>backed away from the idea of building said wall.
Not to say he never meant it, but I always saw the wall as more of a conversation starter to get people to discuss a problem that we have with illegal immigration and the current immigration process as a whole. To me it was never going to be a real answer, but something that could lead to one.

This probably wasn't trump's intention, so I am not trying to give him credit. But you cant deny that it has opened up countless discussions about what can be done with border security and immigration as a whole.
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>>717694382
You just made up a psychological profile for this man.
Think about that.
You have never met him, nor have you a significant understand of his life and details but somehow you convinced yourself you know how his mind works?
Just think for a second how foolish you are
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>>717695392
>assumes I'm a nigger
>can't prove it
>is a fag

try again faggot.
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Trump isnt going to do shit.
The draft dodger already went back on half his campaign promises and he's not even the President yet.

I fucking hated Hillary so I really don't care that she lost; but I think the dissappointment will be palpable when the Trumpets realize they were taken for a ride.
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>>717695194
I assumed your point was to compare me with a well known and respected jewish comedian with the conclusion that I am not as funny as him, even though my original point was really just highlighting the difference between the proposed deportation of a couple of million men, women and children and a handful of foreign agents suspected of attmepting to influence the democratic election of another soverign nation.

Perhaps you are right though. Maybe we should let comedians do comedy and instead focus on the important thigns like try to convince anonymous strangers that we are experts in foreign and domestic politics and whilst calling each other cuckholds.
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>>717695234
There was nothing clever or unfollowable about the guys post. Implying that there is a reason other than what they blatantly said, which was as retaliation for hacking, is borderline conspiracy theory. Quite frankly if that guy can't know either. Assuming a position in face of the given evidence is pretty contrary to logic, which is what he's doing by saying there's a hidden agenda with no proof. Secondly, if a group claims to not want anyone kicked out of the country, and then they kick people out of the country... what would you call that if not inconsistency?
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>>717695530
>he hasn't said anything to make me think that

unlike you, other people actually paid attention to the policies he was advocating, leading us to that conclusion.

>you just assumed something about the guy
didn't you do the same when you voted for him/supported him? Get off your moral high horse.
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>>717695399
Did you not watch his rallies? His speeches? His interviews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPvoMR-aZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p8kM_9oIr8

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37241284

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/06/28/donald-trump-mexico-immigration-wall-intv-tapper-sotu.cnn

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-benjamin-netanyahu-israel-us-meeting-wall-security-fence-palestine-west-bank-a7330121.html
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>>717695715
>borderline conspiracy theory
>somehow excused as logically consistent evidence for something

>the irony in kicking people out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Diplomatic_Relations

You cannot prosecute diplomats by international law, as you would anyone else within the confines of the country. I'm sure you've heard of the term diplomatic immunity before. The only action you can undertake is expulsion. The reason for this is because people act on a "treat-as-you've-been-treated" precedent, which would put American Diplomats serving there in danger. But I assume based on your argument, you either weren't aware or didn't afford that enough significance, which is why you're forming an uninformed or underinformed opinion, whilst commenting on international affairs.

Now, while that might not be a problem with you, at a presidential level it is. Obama followed protocol. It' not an ideological inconsistency.
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>>717696018
I dont have time to look at all the links, but if you are saying "he wanted the wall" and shit, yeah, I agree with you. I specifically said I give trump no credit for unintentionally creating a great conversation starter. I don't care if he doesn't "build the wall" or if he meant it, the fact that he said it caused everyone to start talking about it and come up with other ideas that could work and that is what I care about.
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>>717696259
Not who you replied to but the point is there was no reason to take action against Russia in the first place.
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>>717696854
>there was no reason to take action against Russia in the first place

that's what you see, based on what information you have. If someone had other information than what you have access to, would you be able to conclusively say that?
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>>717696854
Well, there is this:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/12/29/joint-dhs-odni-fbi-statement-russian-malicious-cyber-activity

It doesn't matter if the attacks took place or not but the POTUS needs to be seen to take attacks on american soil seriously.

That is why Obama expelled the suspected agents.
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>>717696868
A lawsuit going all the way to court can be far more damaging on an organization's image then settling it outside. This is a very common thing to do, it happens all the time.
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>>717697303
well yes, especially if said organization is found guilty of fraud
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>>717697052
You imply that it is the russoan government that is attempting to 'hack' and not just some random people looking for information to sell. I dont see the US prepping to go to war with india over their phone scams causing many creditcards and identitys to be stolen.
I bet there are plenty of people in the US that are trying to hack shit as we speak, should other countries attack us because of them?
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>>717697789
the question is whether or not the Russian government was complicit in the hacking or not, as a government. According to that statement, it was.

The reduction of it to individuals is the wrong approach to take, for reasons I hope are self-evident. If not, tell me, and I'll explain.
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>>717696550
Well no, the links are him repeatedly explaining how the wall is an actual physical wall.

Not a metaphorical wall

Not a fence around certain areas of the border

Not a wall around our hearts

Not a wall shaped hole where a wall could be

A 90 foot concrete and rebar wall, across the entire border

Still, I doubt it will be the first election promise to be dropped and forgotten about amongst his supporters.
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>>717697965
I know, I said that I understand what he said and meant. I am saying that he unintentionally created something that caused everyone to start talking about the border problems the US has and other solutions besides the dreaded wall that could work. He did not intend to, but now even if 'the wall' is not built, the fact that this problem has had new light shed on it is a good thing.
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>>717697789
I am implying nothing.

I am merely pointing out that the US intelligence community have accused the russian government of interfering in the US election. This is not opinion; This is fact, for what it's worth in this day and age.

Now the president of the United States has repsonded to this accusation by expelling suspected agents from the US as a demonstration that America does not take attacks on US soil lightly.

If he had done nothing then he would have opened himself up to critizism that he was weak and that the US is powerless to deal with foreign attacks.
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>>717698425
But he will do nothing that the current administration isn't already doing.

Furthermore illegal immigration from Mexico has been on the decline for years whereas illegal immigration from West Africa and Eastern Europe are at all time highs. What are his proposals to stop those people?
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>>717697014
The people who are putting info out there with confidence are saying there was no reason to attack Russia.

This guy>>717697052
Is presenting opinion of people who were told to have that opinion by Obama. I.E. he said "make your report show as much evidence as you can to prove my point".
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>>717698717
>fact.
Provide proof plz. Because the DHS report doesn't prove shit. Typically when something starts with "it is the belief of..." that doesn't hold water worth a shot without objective substantiated sources and evidence.
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>>717699186
then prove it, don't go around talking about how hearsay and unsubstantiated claims are reputable by any means because you say it with confidence.
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>>717699186
Are you privy to the conversations between Obama and the heads of Homeland Security, the CIA, the FBI and the numerous other private internet security companies that have all published their reports concluding that high ranking russian officials authorized the cyberattack in order to influence the american election?

Must be exciting, living and breathing in the corridors of power. Or are you just a clerk, bringing them coffee or something?

Still, I am impressed. What other conversations are you privy to?
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>>717699469
When people directly involved with the leak say it wasn't Russia and people that weren't say it was then you're the one that has to prove that it was. Because the horses mouth opened last night and said it wasn't.
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>>717699563
The FBI came out and said there's no evidence and the CIA were the ones saying that they did. An hero.
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>>717699395
No, I am saying that it is a fact that the official position of the United States government that there was a russian attempt at influencing the election through cyberattacks.

I am not saying that it did or didn't happen; Just pointing out that the US government is saying that it happened, which is why they have to act according to protocol.

When the japs attacked pearl harbour, the governemnt didn't sit around and argue wethe ror not it was a flase flag operation. They were forced to act, or at the very least they were forced to be seen to act accordingly.

Now, I am not arguing whether or not these attacks happened: The damage is already done. There is a large percentage of people in the US and abroad who are convinved that Putin himself is Trump's puppet master. He couldn't be happier with this outcome. It paints russia as influential master hackers and the president elect as a russian stooge. Whether or not the attacks occured is frankly irrelevant at this stage.

The Department for Homeland Security has issued its official position, i.e that the attacks did occur and whether or not it's Obama acting the hardass before leaving office or if they are genuinely pissed off with russia I cannot tell you because unlike the other geniuses in this thread, I do not have access to the private memos of America's Intelligence communities.
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>>717699953
source?
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>>717700384
townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/12/reports-fbi-cia-not-on-the-same-page-about-russian-hacking-n2258469
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>>717700729
Ah fair enough. So the FBI is claiming that there isn't sufficient evidence to implicate the Kremlin. Someone ought to tell Putin. I bet he'll be thrilled to bits. Does the DHS know about this? Does Obama?

Oh christ, don't tell me that the president of the US does not have access to any intelligence briefings?
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>>717701305
That's the problem. Obama knows his shit doesn't hold any weight. So he forces the hand of the agencies he is in control of to release rushed and double spoken bullshit like that DHS report.
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>>717689537
I'm still waiting on their proof. I do not take the word of the DHS, FBI, CIA or the NSA because they all lie all the time and make shit up. I guess they expect everyone to forget about when the NSA and Obama were caught by Snowden spying on US citizens and the tapping of Russia's and other countries emails and cell phones.
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>>717701459
I sincerely doubt that Obama wants to start a diplomatic incident with russia over nothing.

Look at the guy, he is tired as fuck. He wants to hand the keys in and go on a vacation. He knows that blaming the russians won't alter the election. Maybe he just wants to stir the pot but what would be the point? The next incumbent is super tight with russia and so any diplomatic damage this creates will be soothed over with Rex Tillerson playing a couple of rounds of golf with Putin as they discuss the amendment to the Exxon-Mobil deal that will be implemented as soon as he lifts the sanctions.

But anyways, what is done is done and now we have this situation.

The only one profiting from it is Putin.

It's going to be a good couple of years to be a russian oligarch
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>>717701796
apparantly the FBI thinks its bollocks

>>717700729
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>>717701893
It's only a situation if you believe the narrative. Either way Obama isn't tired. He's salty as fuck because he knows his legacy will be destroyed for the betterment of all Americans. Don't get me wrong. I voted Obama twice. But my disliking of him started with obamaphones and hit the peak when he sided with Trayvon and BLM every time someone was shot justifyably. Pretty much what sold me against Clinton this year when she paraded mike browns mom out on stage. Essentially siding with criminals and the worst dregs American society has to offer instead of working class Americans.
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