Why is hunting consider cool? It doesn't take that much effort or brains to shoot something but everyone thinks they're a badass if they do it. Like unless your out murdering things with your bare hands its not an impressive accomplishment. Can someone please explain? Pic unrelated
>>717672246 I personally don't prefer hunting, but I really enjoy fishing. I guess it's kinda the same rush you get. I get real psyched when a fish bites and I get to reel the bastard in. I assume that's the same way hunters feel when they shoot boar or deer
>>717672520 You don't understand that many forms of hunting, such as deer hunting, is to keep the population under control. Humans have displaced all the wolves and most of the coyotes, there are no natural predators for deer anymore. Without humans cu.ling the herd the deer will overpopulate and starve.
The government decides exactly how many deer need to be killed and issues that many tickets. You can't kill a deer unless you have a ticket. If the quota isn't met the government will literally slaughter the animals to keep the population in check.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
> Doesn't know that we've driven most of the predators out of the area just through city and town developements > Doesn't know that wild game populations explode due to lack of predators. > Doesn't know that said game can easily deforest the local flora in under a decade, causing mass famine amongst overpopulated game. >Muh bambi
>>717672246 If you're male, it is literally embedded in your DNA. You might not find it "cool", but I can absolutely promise you there's a really strong, weird feeling the first time you hunt and kill something. Once you experience that weird euphoria from your first kill, you don't even have to ever continue hunting and can go back to trying thinking it's not "cool", but you'll do a complete 180 and understand completely.
$42 hunting license, great skill and patience leading to 100+ pounds of wild, organic, grass and clover and apple-fed meat you'd probably end up paying close to $1000 for (if there was a store that sold it), plus wildlife depts. need thousands of animals to be killed every year to maintain a stable population (since we killed so many of the predators, mostly wolves).
>>717672968 You realize this is EXACTLY what murderers say about killing people, right? Both about how it's natural and ingrained in our DNA, and about the rush. FYI well adjusted, dully evolved humans don't feel this rush.
>>717673272 People AREN'T such cunts about it, fuckface. YOU'RE being a cunt by saying that hunters are cunts. Trophy hunting I, and most, disagree with. But hunting for food and pelts is not a cunt behaviour. What the fuck is the difference between a dead dear with a .30-06 round lodged in its heart and a dead cow killed with a bolt gun. Except for the fact that the .30-06 is often much faster and far less painful for the poor things.
ok ill take one more stab. it's cool because it's the way things have been for millennia, and still is a necessity in a large part of the rural, natural, cool world, and everyone else shopping at grocery stores and restaurants might just be called lazy fags riding an unhealthy, destructive trend. it's cool because its old school and the only other way of getting meat in your diet is, for the most part super super uncool and destructive
I've never met a single hunter that gives a flying fuck if somebody else doesn't hunt. As long as you don't try to get in their face about how hunting is wrong they don't give a fuck if you hunt or not. They know the majority of people don't hunt.
>>717673463 I don't think all people who hunt are assholes, and i completely understand why people like it and i understand some people do it for food. I just don't get why it's considered so manly and cool.
>>717672246 theres more to hunting then just shooting things. it requires skills in when to shoot. and where on the animal to shoot. not to mention tracking the animal down in the first place. knowing what baits or calls to use, know when not to use certain things ect...
also, when shit hits the fan, and we all know its going to, hunting will be a necessary skill to have in order to ensure your survival.
if you are unable to hunt, you are literally dependent on people that do know how.
>>717674083 God, fucking vegetarians. Every vegetarian i've met are twiggy whiny dweebs that never shower or take of those stinky ass beanies. I hate working with vegetarians because they can't do a sliver of shits worth of hard labor.
>>717672246 Most hunting is for pussies. Bow hunting is maybe an exception. If the animal has no chance it's a fucking joke. Bear Hunting with a Bow might be the last manly sport left. Everything else is pussy faggotry.
People think its cool because there has been a surge of wanna be "country boys" in the past decade, so much that ive seen rich kids try to act like these fags wearing all camo and having mommy and daddy buy them a 4x4 truck with browning stickers and big tires. Maybe manlets see hunters as real men and want to be "cool" like them. Either way i agree, you look fucking stupid with your camo hat and hoodie and bragging about how you ALMOST got that 10 pointer last weekend.
>>717674345 >Going into the forest unarmed Lol you're a jack ass and probably hasn't even gone beyond your town's borders. You've got to take at least a hunting knife every time you go out there. You're not superman.
>>717674604 You're half true. Working at walmart's meat department for a while when i was younger, i found out that its mostly water, chicken stock, seaweed extract, some other shit i can't even pronounce and a tiny bit of natural dye.
>>717674983 do you even realize what a recent development being able to go to the "local store" and buy food on a whim is? the least little hiccup in the food delivery chain and you won't be able to buy a damn thing, toliet paper included, and the "local store". people like you will be the first to starve.
They haven't had the life experience you have, and don't understand the reasoning behind what you do. Likewise for yourself, in respect to them. Human empathy is extremely lacking in today's society, everyone has a "us or them" attitude that really gripes my ass.
>>717675640 >everyone has a "us or them" attitude i've noticed that my side of the couch seems to more just want to be left alone. but the other side can't seem to play that way, they want to control everything and everybody. so the us of them comes about whether i like it or not. i'd be perfectly happy to just be LEFT THE FUCK ALONE.
>>717675206 >>717675436 Wrong, I will ALWAYS be able to buy pounds of prime meat for the price you spend "attempting to hunt". I will also maintain my dignity and will never walk upon an injured deer and slit it's neck to save a bullet in punishment for god providing you a micropenis.
>>717675940 Then ignore it? Nobody is forcing you to bud in other people's arguments. >>717676013 >people is different So you're more accustomed to humans hurting humans but when it's an animal, shit has hit the fan?
>>717676013 >i'm vegetarian plants are alive. you are killing plants by eating them. deal with it. you make a choice in what you eat. nobody can just stop eating. you say, "oh, i only eat things that i claim to be noble to eat, and everyone else is a shithead". guess who is the shithead. are carnivorous animals bad for eating meat? you're a pure idiot
>>717674196 Oftentimes those factory farms pump the animals full of hormones that'll give you mantits. This is especially true for chicken. The high fat content doesn't help. Wild game tend to yield leaner healthy meat for cheaper. During the hunt your adrenaline is pumping and you are allowed to act on your primal urge to kill something. Then afterwards you can be proud that you put food on the table for your family.
>>717675940 It's all perspective. Conservatives want to be left the fuck alone, unless it comes to gay marriage/muslims/etc., in which case government should shut that shit down. Liberals want freedom for everyone, except that if you want to own a gun or a nice fast car with lots of Co2 emissions you can go fuck yourself.
We're all hypocrites. We gotta figure out how to compromise again, before our country fucking explodes.
>>717676142 >Shit just isn't that black and white actually most times it is. all this gray area shit is mostly to provide cover for assholes that want to get away with something they shouldn't be doing. funny thing, for someone that thinks hunting is so bad, you should be totally down with black and white, no gray
>>717672246 Depends where you go hunting. Some places your sitting in a fucking deer stand waiting for a deer to walk by (boring asf) and whee i go your walking through patches of forest so see get spooked and run out of the forest to be shot by your buddies . Or your chasing a herd of deer across a plain with someone shooting there rifle on the back of the atv. Or your sneaking across tall grass and following tracks to sneak up on deer.
It just depends what you do. I've never hunted anything else but deer but I've shot at wolves and coyotes before.
>>717676386 Nah, I have no problem with hunting. I grew up in the country, we'd shoot deer illegally and eat that shit for months. I still go bag a buck once and a while.
I just think people need to consider other people more than they do. Everyone has this sense of entitlement, like they're fuckin God Almighty and their opinions and feelings are law, and never even consider the other side of the street. It'll be the death of us
>>717676173 obviously when i talk about "beings", i'm talking about everything which can think and feel pain. and i'm not judging anyone. of course i don't judge carnivores, and of course i don't judge humans that eat meat. it's nature, i accept it, i just don't like to do it. it's about myself, not about others
>>717676362 >We're all hypocrites speak for yourself pal. i could give a fuck about gay marriage. muslims are actually killing people, so i don't want bomb laden assassins in my town. what is so bad about that? the etc., you couldn't think of anything else.
now trot out the christian that blew up an abortion clinic, and see if you can find a total that killed more people that the one last muslim attack.
>>717676386 I think that's the guy who said he's an occasional hunter.
>>717676480 >I could ignore it, but i'm not going to because reasons. The value of self dependence is a good value to learn. But i guess it's good to know that hard working people need to carry the lazy and the sloth for the sake of political correctness. I.E. every "unfortunate" i've known are on welfare and other government assistance programs and have failed to advance themselves in any way (Getting a job at least!) I've recently found that the biggest offenders of this habit are millennial hipsters, the smelly lazy sock heads. To think they're our future.
>>717676683 >Everyone has this sense of entitlement, like they're fuckin God Almighty and their opinions and feelings are law, and never even consider the other side of the street
but it's not my side of the street thats the ones doing it. as i said, i'd be perfectly happy to be left alone. but the guys in power don't seem to be able to do that. it's not about right vs left so much anymore as it is us vs. the government
>>717676604 Not bitching just explaining why factory farms are worse for you than hunting. Trust me I'm still trying to work off these mantits. Just got my first deer since i was twelve and I got fat since then.
>>717676907 See, I'm not even trying to argue with you, but you think I'm your enemy so you wanna argue with everything I say. I'm on your side, or against it.
That's bullshit. If you really wanna know, I think anyone should be able to go through the citizenship process, but if they don't learn English and become productive we should deport them to wherever the fuck they came from.
People can have nuanced views on things, it's not all or nothing.
I'm on my last year of wildlife conservation and wildlife management. If m and people like me didnt study for 5 years to count and calculate a number of a certain animal population and then learn what measures need to be done, some animals you love would already be exinct and others you love would be shitting on your dead body. Where your faggot ass goes to buy meat is where the deer you so want to protect used to live, and the commute you travel every day to go to work used to be the deers commute to reach fresh new grass. Just like the rest of us you took their habitat, now deal with preventive measures of keeping the population at bay
>>717676253 >>717676320 >>717676491 It is a scientific fact that the lower the IQ the more prone you are to hunt. Therefore if the high IQ people finally had enough of your shit we could hire low IQ people to hunt your ass to extinction and allow mother earth to take back her land while we profit. Checkmate.
>>717677188 right is right, wrong is wrong. black and white.
but yes, i have no problem with a lawful, controlled citizenship. that's not what we have now. we have a massive illegal dump of people into our country that is basically a democrat voter registration drive. it does nothing to help the country, harms it noticeably and is for nothing more than to get the next Clinton elected. fortunately, it was too little too late
>>717676782 As blind as a holy man who thought oxygen never existed back in the past. In the future scientists are probably going to find out that plants are conscious and they react much slower and differently than what we're used to. I wonder what vegetarians will eat then? Tofu?
>>717677598 can you read? i didn't generally talk about "consciousness" and "feelings", i talked about ability to feel pain and to think, and for them science is not too young, definitely. we surely know that plants don't have nociceptors. we can discuss about ability to feel pain and think for an oyster, but certainly not for a pig or a cow or a sheep or an octopus or a tuna. i thought that this part of discussion about vegetarianism was overtaked (there are so many smarter arguments against it). clearly you're not in the "smarts" group.
>Be me at 24 >Cousin and I are rabbit hunting >Jump a rabbit out of a brier patch >Rabbit runs and we both shoot >Rabbit is too far away for the shotguns to reach >I start chasing the rabbit >For whatever reason the rabbit falls over on its side >I jump the fence into the cow lot and run up to the rabbit >Pull my skinning knife and cut the rabbits throat and watch it die in my hands. >Fried the rabbit in bacon grease and had a good breakfast the next morning.
>>717678644 if you readed my previous posts you would already know my thoughts: i don't judge anyone. i don't think that a person which eats meats is a bad guy, and i'm not going to break balls to people (never did). diet is personal choice
It's a hobby. People do it for fun, food and trophies. Not to feel like some badass that kills things. They don't shoot an animal and then whip their cock out, start beating it furiously over the corpse while screaming "I'm a fucking sick cuuuuuuunt!"
How can no one understand something so simple? It's almost instinctive to like hunting, as our ancestors were hunter gatherers, it makes sense that we like collecting things, then why not hunting?
I can absolutely guarantee that people who 'don't get hunting' have never, ever actually gone hunting before.
i completely agree. when hunting turns into a, go out in the woods, carve your own bow or spear, stalk your game kind of thing. then ill be interested. camping all morning for 6 hours in a tree to take the life of an animal for an adrenaline rush seems pretty weak, cheesey, and mainstream. worst part is THEY DO think its cool. like what the fuck? anyone can do that shit bro. lmao. grow up country hick fucks
i caught this little faggot with a rat the other day. he didn't even kill it, just hit it around and shit. leaves a fucking mess for me to clean up with blood everywhere, doesn't eat the rat, then begs for cat food later on.
Because it requires a lot of skill, patience and knowledge. You shoot a deer in the wrong place, congrats you tainted a lot of the meat and you're going to be throwing up while skinning it. Also, skinning, cleaning, packaging & cooking are all skills not everyone has or know how to do. And I'm pretty sure a person's "coolness" is derived from what he can do that other's can't and how often.
>>717678749 you're talking with the wrong person. i know every possible kind of study about plants consciousness, because i fucking love that argument, but no one of those research, reading deeply in them, scientifically claims that plants have the ability to think. the maximum claim is about some elaboration capability of trees roots, very similiar to most underdeveloped animal nervous systems, like jellyfish ones. for my sensitivity is absolutely not enough. speaking in general, i'm interested about why people which eats meat need to insisist with those "coherence" arguments. if you ask i can answer: i'm not "coherent", if i'm risking to die i could kill a rabbit with my hands and eat it. i just don't like to hurt beings, and i try not to. and - i repeat - i absolutely don't give a fuck about what other people eats, i'm not that kind of "nazi-vegans" or whatever.
>recently got into archery >used an old bow and made some wooden arrows >getting tired of shooting random targets
I've never been into hunting, but I can feel it now, I want to. I rather hunt something that can hurt me back but I should probably start with deer. Does a traditional bow (not composite) have the power to kill a deer, or am I going to have to track that fucker?
I wouldn't feel "cool" for doing it, but the idea of laying in wait, slowly stalking upon animals camoflauged, and finally going in for the kill shot seems badass.
>>717679477 >if i'm risking to die i could kill a rabbit with my hands and eat it
but could you catch it. that's the question. the answer is, no. everyone just assumes they can do this shit having never done it before. when shit hits the fan, you sir, will starve if people like us don't share our food with you.
>>717672904 You know, I was I was looking at a photo the other day. It was of a guy with a rifle, walking through the heather in the highlands of Scotland. And I thought how it would be cool to do that, but without the shooting things bullshit.
I thought, maybe use a camera instead. It's the same thing. Learning the land, getting as close as possible for the perfect "shot".
Fuck, man. 2017! I might see if it's something you can get into.
>>717679611 don't, just don't. you're going to wound the deer and make it suffer, have to follow a blood trail (yeah, like you could do that) and then even if you have the balls to slaughter it after you have wounded it, won't be able to even carry it back to your Hyundai and it won't fit in the trunk if you got it there. then it will just rot in your garage because you won't know how to process. just don't and say you did
>>717679649 that's pretty cool. it won't feed you, but it's pretty cool. my dad was big on photog, he was an amateur but he had a bunch of good equipment and did some damn good pics. that's why i don't have but a few pictures of him, he was always taking the shots.
>>717673244 except the vast majority of deer hunters sit in their tree stands that rest above their comically large pile of carrots, waiting for many hours just so they can get a shot. Unless you're actively tracking/stalking a deer, you are not deer hunting.
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