SUCK IT HILLACUNTS

>>717584197
Trump threatened car companies with big taxes.

Literally throwing a fit about what parts of capitalism he wants.

Last time i checked tou couldn't pick and chose what you like about freedom. This is literally a SJW way of dealing with problems.

>>717584197
More mexican unemployment = greater immigration.

Hurr durr wall

Gr8 m8

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>>717584197
Fuck ford how about paying that virtually free bailout back faggots? How about taking a 15 year loan where the interest rate is actually higher than the rate of inflation you faggot ass company

This would have happened regardless. The taxes are not and have not ever been the problem. The public eye was brought to large companies by criticisms from both Trump and Bernie are what scare companies like this. The problem is trump trades tax breaks for companies to stay. The American consumer is as much the problem as the companies. Blind Cheap consumerism is what leads to companies moving. If you don't like companies leaving, then don't buy from them.

Short sighted idiots will applaud loudly and try to throw it your face if you so much as disagree with Trump about anything.

This is not how free markets work.

>>717584969
I think ford was one of the only companies that did not take a bailout.

>>717584798
>give your jobs to us or we will immigrate to you and take them forcefully
nice try taconigger

>>717584969

Ford what the only auto company that didn't take a bailout, genius.

but in this case trump didnt do anything, those jobs were never leaving in the first place

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>>717584197
Hail to the king

>>717584197
Why are we trying to save Michigan?

>>717585707
Does ANYONE in that picture look like they deserve work? They all look old and burnt out as fuck. congrats, you kept a group of people working who have the collective IQ of 7 1/2

>>717585266
Well taxes are a problem for them, in a sense. Whether they are justified or not, taxes, regulations, and minimum wage laws are what drives companies out of western countries. If we raised corporate taxes higher, then it makes it harder for them to stay here, plain and simple. Again, that is not to say that they should have no taxes, only that it is indeed a factor.

>>717585873
I live in Michigan.
It's beyond saving.
Our economy was based on Copper and Cars.
Neither of which are a product we produce anymore.

>>717584969
Ford did not take a bailout. Typically intelligent liberal...

>>717584726
>Literally throwing a fit about what parts of capitalism he wants.

It's almost like a... regulated market?

>>717586024
Yes because somebody's appearance lends itself to their IQ level. Fuck m8 I can only imagine what you think of Stephen Hawking

>>717584798
>the Mexicans immigrating to the United States are not qualified for factory labor
>they lack the education and skill needed
>that's why every Mexican on a job site is a ceiling hanger, painter, or sheet rocker
>the plant cancelation could possibly save the state of Michigan from becoming a deserted wasteland
>Mexican nationals will keep their greedy blood stained hands off of American money

>>717584197

>2017
>being this retarded

>actually credits trump with things Obama's policies have caused

>>717586393
If they build a new plant in Michigan, it will keep the building trades busy for a whopping year.
Then you'll put a couple hundred more to work making the cars.
Whoop-de-fucking-do.
Too little too late.
You can't bring back manufacturing jobs that don't exist due to automation,

>>717586530

>jobs that don't exist due to automation
>implying cars are magically put together with little to no human intervention
>being this retarded

>>717586601
You've never seen the inside of these factories before, have you?

There is little human interaction with the newer assembly lines.

>>717586759

>little human intervention

What are you even talking about faggot. Is this fun for you? Going on /b/ to say complete nonsense?

>>717586530
Automation has nothing to do with it. There are still operators, safety crews, janitors, sales reps, receptionists, administrators, floor workers, dock workers, quality control inspectors, plant engineers, cafeteria staff, security... have you ever been to a factory not run by Willy Wonka?

>>717586334
>>>717584197 (OP)
I think he looks a right arrogant cunt

>>717586870
I've been involved with building these plants.
When one came to town, it used to mean thousands of jobs.
Now, it means hundreds.
They get massive tax breaks to build in specific areas under the expectation that they'll put the city to work.
Instead, they put a few to work and rake in the cash.

>>717586900
Again. A couple hundred jobs.
Hardly the massive job influx it used to be.

>>717587129
In shift work, you're probably looking at 1000 jobs for one factory.

Not to mention the further thousands that building the factory will create.

>>717587129
Like I said, you'd keep the building trades busy for a year to put it in.
Brickies, Tinners, Sparkies, Fitters, etc.

And that couple hundred was counting shifts.

>>717584798
>>717584726
so out of touch...

>>717587129
So? even if that was the case its better to keep all production and industrialization on the US

A lot of plants aren't even running shifts right now, because with wages so suppressed and interest rates inflating, people aren't buying new vehicles to keep up with current production.
Even a low end new car costs more than an average years wage.

>>717587832
Agreed.
But it needs to stop being hauled out as an example of a massive job saving victory.
It's not massive.
It's pathetic.

>>717587862
>Even a low end new car costs more than an average years wage.

I'm curious if the average is actually a lot lower than I thought it was, or if you have no idea what a low end new car actually costs.

>>717586048
But let's not pretend that with reasonable business models that aren't reliant on constant growth that a company could be reasonably asked to pay its share of taxes.

>>717585266
I'm a seamster rendered unemployed by industrial clothing production, want to buy my 100 dollar trousers?

>>717586759
>You've never seen the inside of these factories before, have you?
>There is little human interaction with the newer assembly lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHi8-g_VuaU

And we all know how the blonde got her job.

"Cailking? ya, I know about caulking".

Whoops. Wrong link. I'm an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXe-4kbrAXA

>>717588096
you are right. But the manner in which consumers treat companies who leave the states is also largely a problem. Taxes of course may cause a company to leave, but why would accompany leave for a country with lower taxes if they knew that they would be losing customers?

>>717584726
Capitalism is a broad umbrella. When did Trump say he was all for complete Lesse Fair capitalism?

>>717588314
Because when they started moving production outside the country under NAFTA, it was being heralded as the new dawn of international trade.
It didn't become a massive deal until people realized that we were getting the shaft a decade or so later.

>>717587979
It all counts, it all counts
This is the kind of mentality that made the US a sucker to china

>>717588571
you misspelled "customer and trading partner"

>>717588513
Also true. But there were plenty of people who were talking on the potential negatives at its onset.

>>717588571
Actually, the mentality that made the US a sucker to China was, "We're too good for manual labor. We shouldn't be making this shit. We should be buying it!"

From being told all our lives that we were too good to be doing grunt work for an honest wage.

>>717588108
I'm not saying it's great that domestic producers have high mark ups. I'm simply stating that if it bothers people, then don't buy it.

>>717584197
No doubt Putin's got some nefarious plan up his sleeve to do with this.

>>717588869
Do you grow you own food?

>>717588717
But we all know how the media works.
And it's only gotten worse since the nineties.
Don't tell people the facts. Tell them the story.
Create a narrative. Beat down the dissenting voice.

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>>717584197

>standing in the way of free market capitalism
>threatening corporations with taxes

Why would I be upset? Trump is exposing how leftist economic policies are popular even among the republican base. This is a considerable victory for leftism.

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>>717584197
So basically, Trump bought some stock in Ford and expects a big return on his investment. It's good for Trump, but not really for YOU. His sole goal in doing anything is to make money for himself and his family, his now Jewish family.
>Trump's 3 grandkids are born Jews

>>717589042
>Why would I be upset? Trump is exposing how leftist economic policies are popular even among the republican base. This is a considerable victory for leftism.
you have way more self-awareness than most people on your side, why is this? Genuinely curious why your attitude isn't more common.

>>717589042
he is a democrat

he just ran under the republicans
thats allowed you know

>>717588982
It's the "instant gratification" mentality of our country. I agree, it's harder to think critically and do actually research than it is to glue yourself to the tv. But people do know how the media is, trust is at an all time low for news media networks, yet people still watch. So it's not simply the media lies or portrays things in certain lights.

>>717588964
Don't even get me started on the broken agricultural industry...

>>717589042
It just seems that the 5' 6" guy right next to me is taller than the 6' guy a hundred yards from me.

Trump was saying that the Dems heavily manipulate stats to make their destructive policies seem to be beneficial.

I'm a socialist with heavy Communist leanings. I voted for Hillary Clinton and I love this. Not even Sanders could have centralized so much power to control corrupt capitolists. Big governement will save us from ourselves. If he institutes libel laws and controls all media in the country American will be great like China like Russia used to be. After he manhandled capitolists he striped the power from our representatives. Not even president and forcing the hand of our corrupt senate and house. Donald Trump is the best thing to happen to Democrats in decades. He gives the president the power they need to control our country and if he fucks up Republicans get blamed. Democrats still get to keep all that big government power.

>>717589240
No, it's the fact that an estimated 50-70% of the news stories spread on social media this last year were flat out fake.
The consumer has become the creator of the shit narratives.
Modern media has just been the repeater.

>>717589385
>Trump was saying that the Dems heavily manipulate stats to make their destructive policies seem to be beneficial.
And is this also the reason he ran under the Democratic Party WHILE saying this?
>being this delusional
AAAAAAHHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA

WHAT A RETARD

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>>717585505
>>717585382
>>717586323
"Ford what" the only company to get bailed out behind a fake DoE loan. The interest rate doesn't even match the rate of inflation during the entire term. Fuck ford

>>717589240
That's right bash the 4th estate. Fredom of speech is over rated. Thanks for your help commrad.

>>717589475
id say that's 30% real threw social media as apposed to maybe 5% threw traditional

ITT.
People that get all their political information from /b/ trying to debate politics on /b/.

>>717589228
The greatest Democrat in history perhaps. Bringing big government to the United states. Democrats should be dancing in the streets with moves like these. I for one am elated.

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>>717589652
>>717589633

>>717589042
Trump could say "Look I'm dangerously unqualified I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing I just ran for president because I was bored I want to go back to my penthouse" and everyone on here who would just sing his praises anyway and kind of dumb to attack him at this point

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>>717589131

>>717589697
Yeah. The biggest Democrat that has a VP pushing Right to Work across the country.
.
.
.
Wait a second...

>>717586334
This

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>>717587862

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Trump is trolling everyone. When the economy implodes, those companies, Carrier, Ford et al will be sitting ducks!

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>>717586900
>Willy Wonka

>>717589723
im an Aussie you cunt

>>717589934
Trump now seems to control the House and capitolists. Yeah he has accomplished more than anyone could have dreamed of with a Sanders or a Clinton. My stocks are going nuts I could literally just buy and sell based on his tweets. Emperor Donald Trump. I love this shit.

He knows what he is doing, don't worry

>>717590019
What? 250 lbs is not obese. A little overweight maybe. I'm 5'6" and weight over 250. I am not obese just a little overweight!

>>717589305
If my comments resemble communist ideas to you then maybe you should take a history lesson dumbass.

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>tfw they don't know Trump was ushered in by Jews to foresee the foreclosure of America
>tfw Trump has the most experience with Chapter 11
>efw It's the Jews

BTW.
Jack Reacher is a fucking baller movie.
I'd give Tom Cruise a handy.

>>717589475
Why would you be getting news from social media anyways m

>>717590472
Jah Creature
Jacks off reacharound

>>717590358
And that'll last a year, tops.
10 Year bonds are set to collapse again, taking the whole market with them again.

>>717588088
5000 dollar mazda?

>>717590558
I'm not, but most of America is.
Welcome to the shitshow.

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>>717590558

>>717590601
Used is not new from factory.

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>>717590449
I can't believe whites fell for the shit. It just proves they are indeed not the superior race.

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>>717590449

>>717590560
No homo. I'd suck that dick.

>>717590449
>>717590868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw-lfqJs7Ck

Jews completely co-opted this faux-white nationalist resurgence, completely dominating it by astroturfing online and offline.

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>>717584197
>Need ~150,000 jobs added per month just to maintain current unemployment rate.
>Get a chode evey time he "saves" a few hundred every month.
>Missing the big picture.

Part and partial why American car companies can compete with Korea and Japan which enjoys higher infrastructure efficiencies is because some part and at times final assembly enjoy low wage benefits from making shit in Mexico. Can't wait to see Trump "SAVE" some more jobs in the short turn to make American companies less competitive globally to only hurt them even worse longterm.

>>717586024

Who in the fuck cares? They're factory workers, and they're (probably) American, so why are you bitching?

>>717586257
Yes but would you rather have the plant there and give you a few years worth of work for some people or leave to TacoBellLand?

>>717586257

Ford makes cars. If they bring factories back to the state and there are incentives for the company to hire Americans instead of outsourcing to foreigners, the state economy should start improving.

>>717589567
Chevy got the Bail out, and dodge was bought out... FORD TRUCK... WE ARE ALL THATS LEFT

>>717590872
No homo. Id take his penor inside my ass and let him cum inside

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>>717588869
Thats basically the same as >>717587979
but phrased differently

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>>717591467
>ooga booga for truk
Here's your (You)

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>Obama gains almost 12 million jobs during his 8 years in office.
>Bush lost 1.01 million jobs during his 8 years in office.
>Conservifucktards complain about Obamas jobs record.
Conserviifucktards bitch about low information voters, yet have no problem being WRONG information voters.
smh.

Sauce: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USPRIV

>>717591981
cuck shill go away
Tumblr is waiting for you

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>>717584726
He did something Obama was terrified to do.

Has anybody mentioned that Ford isn't actually put a new plant in Michigan?
Sales are down on both their Fusions and Mustangs.
Fusions were to be made in Mexico.
Mustangs are made in Michigan.

All they're doing is modifying the current plant in Flat Rock to produce both cars.

>>717590652
a young white family? lol no, more like crack heads with no teeth.

>>717584798
Which equals mean, bigger wall and tighter security.