>>717582456 I know this is b8 and you caught me but in America we don't decide who our president is based off pure majority. The electoral college was established to pick the president based off majority from a proportions standpoint, which is why smaller states have a "bigger say" than their more populated neighbors.
Whether you like it or not, America as a whole thought trump was better, even though one or two states out of 50 thought otherwise
>>717582456 >Trump says "They're going to rig the election against me because I'm not one of them" >Democrats say "the election can't be rigged." >Trump doesn't flat out say he would accept the election results >Shillary says "Anyone not willing to accept the election results is a danger to democracy" >election results come in >Shillary refuses to accept election results >Jill Stein makes a fortune >Democrats saying the election was rigged.
November 9th democrats and MSM were stunned by Trump's win. How could this be? We had it rigged in Hillary's favor and Trump actually won?
*shock* followed by *crying* followed by *outrage*.
A recount effort was established. The PA recount request didn't meet the proper criteria, so a lawsuit was filed in order to get it. This was all in hopes to stall those states enough that the electors would not be able to cast their votes on the 19th of December. This attempt failed!
A harass the electors effort was established. Electors were threatened, barraged with emails and phone calls, and tormented in an effort to get them to change their vote. This attempt failed!
Russian hacking claim. Everyone jumped on this bandwagon even though just before the election, everyone was telling us that rigging the election would be nearly impossible due to the fact that it isn't one election, but many conducted by each district in each state. Hacking such a system would prove fruitless. Obama, the MSM, and liberals everywhere scoffed at the idea of the election being rigged. It's funny how this works when the shoe is on the other foot. Classic liberal double-standard at play here.
Assange now comes out and confirms that the source of the leaked emails was NOT the Russians. When will you libs quit? You look like bloody fools. Never in history have I seen this much crying and ranting in hopes to get the results changed. It can't happen, Hillary lost, it's over.
What really happened? The democrat party picked a shitty candidate, and the DNC, MSM, and president even shilled for her. This didn't change the fact that she was simply not Bill Clinton, and generally a very shitty candidate, running a very shitty campaign, ultimately losing the election. Why do liberals always have to blame someone else for their own failings? It's time for some personal responsibility and accountability. This is exactly why Trump was elected.
>>717582456 >The Russians altered the outcome of our election by exposing how Clinton altered the outcome of the DNC stealing the nomination from Sanders sounds like Russia was being pretty bro by keeping us from installing a Stalinist dictator
>>717582456 If the Russians altered the outcome of the election it was by revealing the shit going on behind the scenes by Hillary and the DNC.
That's not the Russians to blame... it's Hillary and the DNC. If they weren't doing some genuinely felonious shit then it'd be no harm: no foul. But they were doing some genuinely felonious shit. You should be thanking the Ruskies for outing the truth, not blaming them because your candidate is now provably as crooked as is imaginably possible.
Apply some thought to your own position, not supporting Hillary does not mean you automatically switch to Republican ideals. FFS. Look at her for what she is: a fucking felonious crook!
It is becos ve vanted Trrump in as ze prezidente you americo fucks (Heavy Russian accent) Ze fucko americunts vill shut a ze za fuck up and blindly accacept ze fucking reesulta. Now all of ze russian federation owns da fucking america. If you a not shuta ze fuck up you vill be nooked.
>>717583831 >conspire to steal democratic nomination from The Bern >succesfully conspire to steal the nomination from The Bern >get nominated to run for president by the democractic convention >emails get released showing conspiracy to steal the nomination >accuse the russians of altering the election to deflect the fact that you altered the election
>>717584036 Just because you can't understand the tactics that media use to mislead you doesn't mean it's "fake", it means your interpretation is wrong. Most mainstream media manipulate their viewers instead of flat out lying about fake shit.
>>717583804 Not him but pic related is the California voters registration form. Nowhere on this form do you have to provide a social security number. That would be racist. All you need as far as a legal number to register to vote is a DL#. Now see this http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php California has state law that says they can issue DLs to illegals. May not be concrete proof but if you can't put two and two together here you're a fucking retard.
>>717584463 Noice! Simply having an email with a link constitutes evidence that it was actually clicked.
How about I email you some links to pedo and then tell the cops you're guilty of being a pedo cause links in email.
>maybe it was all the password sharing they were doing, or all the password re-use on all of their accounts, or maybe it was shit tier passwords like "hrc2016". I mean there is no way anyone could figure that out right?
>>717582982 Actually, the Electoral College was put into place because the first two elections under the new constitution were not voted on by the populace but by elites from the states. As part of the compromise to get government up and running, the agreement was that each state would have a number of delegates in the electoral college equal to the number of senators (always 2) and their house representatives (minimum 1).
Back then, it was understandable since there were no procedures in place yet to handle proper national elections. Nowadays though we can not only get the elections done in minimal time, we can have actual results in hours, or days at worst. The EC is outdated and should be scrapped because the US is the only country in the world where you can win the vote but lose the election.
>>717585174 >because the US is the only country in the world where you can win the vote but lose the election Simply not true, electoral systems are in place all over the world. Especially countries with parliaments or equivalent are prone to the same issue.
>>717584999 I said it wasn't rock solid proof but this is the case in several states. It would be impossible to prove without violating the anonymity of the election. Either way the illegals that did vote most certainly didn't vote for trump.
>>717583389 >We had it rigged in Hillary's favor total bullshit.
>This was all in hopes to stall those states enough that the electors would not be able to cast their votes on the 19th of December. again, total bullshit.
>A harass the electors effort was established. reported only by infowars and fox news, so surely it must be real.
>Russian hacking claim >claim no, try fact. when 14 different intelligence agencies all say they have the digital footprint leading back to Russia, that is proven fact.
>Assange now comes out and confirms that the source of the leaked emails was NOT the Russians. and we should believe him why exactly? he is said to have been compromised, and is the leader of a fake news site. I guess if Alex Jones says something we should believe it too.
>>717585535 >all say they have the digital footprint did you not read that bullshit "footprint" report? https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf
But political anxiety over the lack of evidence is simmering elsewhere, too. Writing on Friday, left-wing commentator Matt Taibbi described the Grizzly Steppe report as “long on jargon but short on specifics,” and part of a broader pattern of government overstatement with “an element of salesmanship.”
>>717583389 >rigged in Hillary's favour >got ~3 million more votes than Trump and lost I'm not saying it wasn't a fair election, both of them knew the rules but you've got to be fucking deluded if you think Hillary was at any advantage like that.
So you all by now may have heard the story of Joule Unlimited and John Podesta. Podesta was granted shares in the alternative energy company in exchange for joining the Board of Directors.
Podesta stayed on three years and had 75,000 shares vested when he had to leave the board to become counselor to President Obama. Podesta did not disclose these shares on financial forms as required by federal law, instead transferring the shares to Leonidio Holdings LLC, a Delaware Corporation registered to his daughter's address.
This is the same Joule Unlimited that Vladimir Putin funneled $35 million to through Sberbank (the largest bank in Russia, majority owned by Russia Central Bank) and Troika, which was named in the Panama Papers for laundering money through other organizations.
John Podesta’s brother, Anthony, who bundles campaign donations for Clinton, is listed as the lobbyist for the Sberbank account.
>>717586835 >Anthony In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank. http://www.salon.com/2016/04/08/with_saudi_and_russian_ties_clinton_machines_tentacles_are_far_reaching_according_to_panama_papers/
>>717582456 Russians didn't really do anything, except expose how the Democrats just cater to their political insiders. They were both flawed candidates who couldn't even gather enough support against either candidate. The irony I guess, is that she ended being the worst candidate. I mean, honestly though, how do you lose against Donald Trump?
>>717586835 Among those companies is the Russian Sberbank, whose U.S. investment banking branch recently enlisted the services of the Podesta Group. According to its lobbying registration form, the firm will work on banking, trade, and foreign relations issues.
One of the three lobbyists working on the account is Tony Podesta, a bundler for the Clinton campaign and the brother of campaign chairman John Podesta, who co-founded the firm.
I sincerely hope that Liberals and Demoncrats really are going out and buying Firearms like Killary Klinton told them to, and that they plan on putting up an armed resistance to God Emperor Trump's inauguration come the 20th.
I swear to God, all he has to do is say the Word and every Lib/Dem is going down.
>>717582456 Vast majority..... Trump wins..... Clinton wins by 3 mil votes..... Obama openly tells illegals you can vote and with no reprecussions..... Pretending that no illegals voted..... Vast majority = 90%+. Clinton lost. Russia did not hacking. Everyone that lost is butt hurt, crying and committing suicide in their safe spaces.
60+million Gun loving Americans who are turning into Anti-Feminist, Anti-Minority, pro Nationalists that actually do have the means to wipe out California and New York. Which, by the way, are among the most Gun restricted places in the entire U.S.
>>717588063 >Yet they lost the popular vote When will you morons learn that the popular vote doesn't decide the presidency. Also, that popular vote was won in CA, that state that has nude-ins and is made up of a bunch of burnt out, and washed up hippies.
>>717588037 >Obama openly tells illegals you can vote and with no reprecussions..... Link source or shut the fuck up. This obviously never happened and if you believe it to be true then you're a fucking retard.
>>717587375 I said play nice little child. There is no need to be mean. Let us elitist libcucks listen to our elitist libcuck news and read our pampered little snowflake papers and in return we will let you inbred cuckservatives watch your inbred cuckservative news and browse your redpilled snowflake websites.
At the end of the day, the corporate fucks who run the government needs us divided and ignorant.
If we start find common ground now me might just work out that we are all about to get fucked up the ass. As always.
>>717588271 Every other Democratic election in the world at any level is decided by the popular vote. The US Presidential election is the only one decided by some other system. Why the fuck haven't we made what is argued to be the election of the "leader of the free world" actually a democratic election? It's a fucked system.
>>717588360 So, hold on a minute...Putin used his KGB mind control device to brainwash and have tens of millions of American citizens show up on Election Day and Vote Trump and all Republican like Zombies, is that right? We had no free will of our own and don't actually remember Voting in the Election for real?
And you sit there claiming Republicans/Conservatives are fucking crazy?
>>717588037 >Obama openly tells illegals you can vote and with no reprecussions.... Correction. Obama said "when you vote you are a citizen yourself" Clearly the implication is that for the illegals, voting makes them a citizen. So it's a good thing for them to do. He phrased it in this insane way on purpose. He chose the odd word placement so he would be able to dismiss criticism.
>>717588271 I never mentioned the presidency, I was referring directly to his popularity. He appeared to be the more popular candidate based on his massive amount of supporters, yet when it came to voters was beaten.
I believe that we are purposefully being polarized in order to deflect attention from the fact that a small percentage of influential lobbyists and corporate CEO's dictate policy and that the election is a 4-yearly soap opera that rolls into town to give the proles the illusion of democracy
It's crazy, I know. But not any crazier than believing a multi millionaire fuckwit from amhattan gives two shits of the people in the rust belt live or die, let alone get their jobs back that he and his pals outsourced to bangladesh decades ago.
>>717588525 fuck you. I voted Trump. The sooner this country descends into anarchy the better. Hillary would have been the boring status quo. Trump actually has a chance of sowing the seeds of full on civil war before taking a shit all over the white house and retiring in obscene luxury.
>>717588920 I know that 15 agencies came out and said there were no proof or evidence that Russia interfered with the Electronic Voting Machines and that they weren't going to say otherwise, but then the Whitehouse press and Media corporations ran fake news storries claiming they said the Russians DID influence the election by hacking.
>>717589246 >>717589261 Really? That's your source? He never said anything about illegal immigrants voting. This hardly encourages illegal voting. He specifically says for latino citizens to vote so that they can represent those in their community who can't because they're illegal and thus don't have the right to vote. How are you so fucking retarded?
>>717589956 No the Anon that you're arguing with but, President Obama was asked whether or not Illegal Citizens (the interviewer makes it clear that she will be referring to illegals as just Citizens, because she feels they contribute) should fear going to Vote on Election day. Will there be penalties or repercussions for Voting illegally by his administration or Trumps.
President Obama said there would be no backlash. He encouraged all Citizens (knowing the interviewer told him in this context Citizens referred to the illegals) to go out and Vote.
>>717590117 >does nothing to correct her But he clearly never gave the impression that illegals could vote, he specifically refers to their inability to vote. Hardly encouraging them into voting illegally. This just as stupid as assuming that Trump was willfully encouraging people to assassinate Hillary Clinton.
>>717590896 Tell me, knowing that Obama had and I quote "Secret Bunkers where the Government would be watching for any attempts to influence the Election on Election Night, and would respond Militarily to any detected threats by Russia" how did the ENTIRE U.S. Government AND Military, Intelligence Agencies, etc. all fail to prevent a nation with just 140m people, that are by all intents and purposes starving, and old people can't afford food etc. lose to Russian elite haxxors AND not one agency could detect it until AFTER the Election when it turned out Trump did win?
Also, how is it that the Government itself claims millions of illegals voted in the election (we don't know who they voted for, couldve been Trump or Hillary, but make an educated guess as to who they'd be voting for) and when the Dems and Libs got together to call a recount, Trump went UP in numbers and Hillary went DOWN, so they called a stop to the recount?
>>717588671 The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.
Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.
“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”
According to US intelligence officials, Russian hackers made repeated attempts before this year’s election to get into major US institutions, including the White House and the state department. The tactics were simple: send out volleys of phishing emails and hope that someone clicked.
his allowed Moscow to access about 60,000 of Podesta’s emails. The hackers also breached the Democratic National Committee (DNC).
The emails were passed to the WikiLeaks website, which published them before the US election. The furore dominated the news bulletins and damaged Clinton’s campaign.
Security experts believe two Kremlin-connected groups were behind the hacks. One was was from the FSB spy agency, the other from Russian military intelligence.
>>717592773 Hm. What I heard from the British counter intelligence agencies was that one of their members had personally spoken with the leaker providing the emails to Wikileaks and that it was HE was not a Russian foreign agent, but a disgruntled former employee.
Funny how everything related to Republicans during the last decade of leaks has been 100% spot-on and infallible, but as soon as Wikileaks starts exposing the other side, it's all fake and the commies are out to get us.
>>717593477 Yeah? Well my uncle jimmy said that it was him who done the hacks.
jimmy is a great haxxor so I believe him and so should you I am defintiely not trying to start spreading a conflicting story in order to muddy the water or throw red herrings at the wall or whatever else it is that you americans i mean we americans do when we wish to divert attention from bad news am I right coca cola cowboy?
>>717582456 OP is fucked >It wasn't Russia Ex-British ambassador Craig Murray, has just admitted to being the source of the DNC email leaks that were put out by WikiLeaks. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html
but you just ignore the fact that no evidence that Russia did it has been provided Ignore the fact that evidence has been provided that Craig Murray handed them over. keep watching CNN
>>717584377 Yeah, Sweeden has a warrant out for his arrest, but he isn't "convicted", and the UN has even declared that there is insubstantial evidence to merit the warrant and that basically its comellete bullshit.
Assange doesn't actually stand to face the charges because once he's in custody he believes the US will then file its treason and espionage charges against him, resulting in the Sweedish police turning him over in handcuffs to a U.S. military prison such as Guantanamo- which is under no obligation to provide him with the judicial rights and American Citizen would have. In other words, indefinite detainment without trial or even formally explaining the charges is absolutely a possibility. Amnesty International is an NGO that fights these cases all the time.
>>717582456 >the vast majority wanted Clinton Yeah in cities, of those who actually voted (which is barely half of the population of America). Fuck off with your irrelevant loser shtick. Hillary is no longer relevant and her supporters NEVER WERE. Deal with it.
>>717582456 This is what SJW means. The highly visible retards who are blatantly racist and bigoted while pretending to be the opposite. Like the retards on MTV, Anita Sarkeesian, college professors, etc.,etc.
Their stupidity has turned countless people away from the left and no doubt that helped Trump win at least some votes
>>717582456 Russia raped us this election, but I'd rather be raped than be killed, and Obama and Clinton would rather have us go to war with Russia than to be clever about it. Obama's whining is being laughed at by nations and even Americans, right where Russia wants us to be.
I say let us stay quiet and better our relationship with Russia and kiss their ass, then hopefully and meanwhile the liberals and resistance builds up a defense to protect themselves the next election.
This is assuming that Trump won't be inspired by Russia's handling of their media and quietly get rid of free press or dismantle mainstream media which at the moment is the only form of checks and balances within the Trump presidency.
>>717602740 Trump can still be stopped. Tell your friends, tell your family, tell everyone you know to CALL THEIR SENATORS and push them to block Trump by not confirming the Electoral College votes for him on January 9th when they meet to confirm them.
If the United States Senate does not confirm the votes for Trump cast by the EC, then the house of representatives gets to choose a president. Their first method of choosing when a candidate is below 270, is to choose the one with the most EC votes.
This is very important. If we can get the senate to reject enough Trump votes, then Hillary will actually have more causing her to be the choice of the house of representatives.
We still have a chance, but everyone needs to call their senators. Do it, Hillary can still be the next president!
Is this what Trump supporters actually want? To have not actually won because it was hacked? Hillary was actually the winner based on all of the exit polls and the snap polling that was conducted all summer long.
Trump has illegitimately won the presidency, and we need to petition our senators to block the electoral college's votes for Trump on Jan 9th. They can still change the outcome. Hopefully as more and more hacking comes to light, they will do the right thing.
>>717602901 That's all pointless. Trump IS the next president there's nothing stopping it.
Also, all we know for sure that Russia hacked the DNC, but the government hasn't stated if they interfered with voting. If they didn't, then all they did was 'reveal' to the American people the DNC's corruption through corruption, which sounds like whistleblower thing but has obvious malicious and manipulative intent which is why we should be against them. But I'm not sure if we can call Trump's presidency 'illegitimate' yet. The government has said little on what the Russians have actually done.
>>717585174 Actually actually, the electoral college was out in place because when looking at previously existing governments, the framers realized that all of the entirely pure democracies imploded on themselves. They established a system where 51% couldn't flat out tyrannize the other 49%
>>717604163 <--- What will be the next "excuse" for Hillary's loss? How about the truth, that she was just a shitty candidate. I remember early on during the primaries, many people were saying "No more Clintons, no more Bushes"
>all these shills still pretending that Russia didn't do anything It's actually kind of amazing how delusional you people are. It's fine to be skeptical about it because this whole thing can turn out like Iraq, but there is more to suggest that there was interference than there wasn't now. We don't know the actual evidence because they don't want Russia to know how they found out, but republican and democratic politicians alike now are pretty much in agreement that it's real.
Just because it's being used by the liberals to discredit the Trump presidency doesn't mean it isn't real. That's as stupid as suggesting the Clinton leaks were fake.
>>717604700 >the Clinton leaks were fake Confidential info was leaked, not classified information as suggested by Trump, so yes, saying Clinton leaked classified information would be fake, or inaccurate.
>>717604587 >It's okay for Russia to interfere in our election because my guy won. okay.
It's a bipartisan issue. Liberal politicians are using it as an excuse, but it's still an issue nonetheless. Conservatives are throwing out phrases like yours to suggest that the threat of Russia's interference isn't real, and they're doing the exact same thing the liberals were doing.
>>717605060 Russians didn't hack the election.....period.
Russians "may have" (no solid proof yet) been involved with the Podesta emails. There are also conflicting reports saying that it was DNC insiders. IMO the jury is still out on this one, until solid proof is provided by either side.
Russians, Chinese, Indians or any foreign government hacking into stuff at the US is very real, and yes should be taken very seriously.
>>717604700 >only evidence russia did anything comes from quotes of agencies that have lied countless times before
>pretending like the coldwar and media lies never happened before
>pretending this isn't some redscare 2.0 bullshit
>listens to the same people who said iraq had WMDs
>It's actually kind of amazing how delusional you people are. It's fine to be skeptical about it because this whole thing can turn out like Iraq, but there is more to suggest that there was interference than there wasn't now
like what evidence? last time we had "evidence" like this we were drug into a still ongoing "war on terror" which like the "war on drugs" is all for profit.
oh you mean those agencies that are known liars to the american public?
fuck dude look up some of the shit the CIA has done in the past. they are not to be trusted and neither is the FBI.
READ SOME AMERICAN HISTORY ANON. Look at the amount of times americans have been lied to in order for war
OP is a fucking whiny Clinton fucktard. Russians had nothing to do with it. Their own people turned on them. Clinton, the DNC, and all her people fucked it up. They thought they were untouchable. They thought they were owed the presidency. They corrupted their way through the elections and they were busted. They deserve everything they got!
>>717609644 >So, do you really think he is a good candidate, No, he's a great President Elect :) Why? Because he actually gives a shit and does what he says he's going to do. He's not even in yet and billions of dollars in jobs are here now. Obama never even tried.
>>717582456 >The Russians altered the outcome of our election, and installed their >guy, even though the vast majority of Americans wanted Clinton.
Since when is 1 million difference of 320 million a "vast majority"?
The Nazi party is totally corrupt. Although Asange has said several times that it wasn't the Russians, those who did leak the documents did the US a huge favor. The Dizzicratic party disintegrated and rebuilt itself during Vietnam, and is in urgent need to do it again. You have 4 years to divest of black hate groups, crazy sexual identity retardedness and communist leanings, or you'll get fucked for another 4 years. We need a second political party, so it would serve us all if you would unfuck yourselves.
>>717610883 They are doubling down on their bullshit. I think in 2020, the democrat party won't be that big, unless they change course. We may see an election in 2020 involving the Green Party, Libertarian Party, and the GOP instead.
>>717582456 >even though the vast majority of Americans wanted Clinton.
The final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York. Clinton won California by 4.2 million votes and New York by 1.6 million, running up the score in places where she would have won no matter what. Outside of those two far left-wing states, Trump was 3 million votes ahead in the other 48 states. California alone accounted for more than Clinton's national popular-vote edge. Just like in football, a team can have more yards and lose the game. What matters is how many points you put on the board. This is why we have an electoral college, leftists candidates only need California and New York. Unfortunately, this concept is lost on millennials, snowflakes, and their indoctrinating apparatchik professors of "social sciences."
>>717615675 Wrong. States are individual units and should have some say, not just the 2 biggest ones.
I think what would really be fair would be if a candidate wins 40% of a state, then they get 40% of that state's electoral votes. The dems would never go for that though, because California has a lot of republicans. The current setup benefits the democrats almost assuring them Cali every single election.
IDGAF if this is fucking bait. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU AND THIS SENSATIONALIST BULLSHIT. You know damn well what it sounds like when you say "Russian hacking" with respect to the elections. You're people are trying to make it sound like they changed the vote totals; which they did not. GTFO of here with your fucking fake ass news.
Whether or not the Russians "hacked" (which I have not seen any proof of; other than an agency claiming that they "probably did.") it doesn't change the facts revealed by the "hacks."
WTF happened to all these motherfucking assholes claiming trump sexually assaulted them? are major media outlets even putting out any kind of retraction for the obviously politically motivated and undoubtedly false stories that they put out to smear trumps integrity? does that bullshit not merit any kind of outrage?!
>>717616869 >You're people are trying to make it sound like they changed the vote totals They could well have. That's just it, no one knows for sure, but it certainly looks like democracy was compromised.
>WTF happened to all these motherfucking assholes claiming trump sexually assaulted them? Trump paid them to shut the fuck up, that's what.
>>717617781 did you even fucking read that shit??? first three motherfucking sentences...
DISCLAIMER: This report is provided “as is” for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within. DHS does not endorse any commercial product or service referenced in this advisory or otherwise.
now where's your proof that trump paid any of the sexual assault claimants?
>>717582456 Even if they did. This just proves that democrats have no power. Trump just trumped everyone and made a great ally, and he isn't even in the white house yet. Old school politicians are too diluted, too rigid, too out of touch with people.
>>717618348 it means they don't want to be responsible if any legal actions should result from the document. they don't want to be in the loop. it's a standard disclaimer. the people who produced the original paperwork were from the cia.
>>717618071 Yes I do think they had an influence, but it's hard to quantify how much. I don't think it necessarily swayed the outcome in the other direction, though it might have. You can't do much about external propaganda except for educating your populace though.
>>717619039 How far can Alex Jones really reach? Retards will retard.
The (left-ish) media did a terrible job at attacking trump with PC outrage instead of on his policy. Don't blow everything out of proportion and don't have PC outrage be your only means of attack. Most people don't give a fuck about him saying naughty words, even when they're over the top.
Point out that his stance on Chinese import will probably make every day things more expensive and that it likely won't make up for the few manufacturing jobs you bring back to the USA. Point out that you can't just "take the oil" by snapping your fingers. You can't just "renegotiate our debt" when your currently is the world's reserve currency.
>>717602901 >We still have a chance Bernie still has a chance?
>Is this what Trump supporters actually want? To have not actually won because it was hacked? 3/10 - I have yet to see good solid proof that the election itself was actually hacked and swung in Trump's direction.
>Hillary was actually the winner based on all of the exit polls and the snap polling that was conducted all summer long. You mean those 'fake' polls using bad sampling amounts based on 2010 voter registration numbers instead of the 2015 numbers? Those polls that Podesta talked about in his leaked emails?
>>717618706 The Podesta emails and everything else did the exact opposite of what you're saying though. It wasn't "external propaganda" it was literally their own words exposed to the public. Faggots argue for more transparency for 8 years then they get a little of it and pitch a tantrum.
Should we have all just been blind and dumb to what they were doing behind the scenes and just all cast uneducated votes for HRC? The "logic" of these retards is astounding.
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