Something happened to me over the summer where I realized I just don't give a fuck anymore. There are more than 5 people in the world and oh fucking well if things don't work out. Just dive in head first anon, open your eyes and see what happens
>>717577565 I have it too and it sucks. I think it's something you just have to live with and get used to. Socializing feels so awkward to me and when I try to talk to people it's like I don't even care about them and have to pretend I care about the stuff they say, because they tend to talk about things I can't relate to, at all.
Depends on the root causes of your anxiety. There's a couple of ways to fix it. Seriously, don't listen to people that tell you it's a disease that can never be cured and you have an illness and please respect mental health blah blah.
It's not easy, but everyone can change who they are and become that which they want to be.
I'm not an expert, but a couple of things that work for me: >quitting masturbation for a little bit - gives me the impetus to get up and go out and talk to girls I wouldn't care to try otherwise. >eating well and sleeping right, drinking a nice big cup of coffee and accomplishing something first thing in the morning (even if it's as simple as just making your bed or taking out the trash, it has a snowball effect for the rest of the day) >marjuana - helps sometimes, sometimes gives me anxiety tbh. helps with introspective thinking >LSD - take it and take a long hard look in the mirror. think about the universe and where you sit in it. come to the conclusion that you are both inconsequential tiny and nothing matters, and important and everyone is beautiful and interesting and the world is magnificent in its own way. Take solace in both: nothing matters/everything is beautiful and connected. >chaos magick/religion and spirituality in general. whether atheist fags like to admit it or not, our brains evolved in such a way that religion has profound and useful effects on our psyche. It stemmed from us being able to notice patterns, an evolutionary strength, and our need to make sense out of the chaos and discord of reality. religion can offer inner peace and life contentment, social groups and support. don't underestimate it >learning and being honest with yourself. not being afraid to tell your friends that you're "tired of being around people, sorry buddy haha i just need some time alone, i love you." can make all the difference in the world. knowing your strengths weaknesses and limits, improving upon them while not burning yourself out.
>>717578931 Also, I recommend 3 supplements: A multivitamin that comes from offal/plants/raw ingredients - your body can more easily digest them, synthetic vitamins are almost 100% excreted in urine Fish Oil - actually has a slight antidepressant effect with more than a small amount of studies to back it up Probiotics - your gut bacteria plays an incredibly important role in so many aspects of your physiology. recent studies have proven that a "fecal transplant" (gut bacteria taken from a healthy person and put up the butt of an unhealthy one) has a higher efficacy rate than antidepressants, which have a marginal effective rate over placebos, while potentially adding lots of negative side effects. Also a recent studied showed that fecal transplants cured chronic migraines in 30% of test subjects - an incredibly high rate for an early study.
You don't need any other supplements than that. There is a huge snake oil market in supplements, but these 3 are well proven.
>>717579650 You think these people didn't like to socialize? You quoted one line from Einstein that he likes to be alone now that he's older, as if that means he never wanted to ever talk to people or experience life. He lived a very interesting and vibrant life anon.
Shit, if Tesla was better at socializing, we'd have wireless power by now instead of a forgotten genius who died alone in love with a pigeon.
>>717579753 Yeah my bad, I forgot that niggers like you exist. Niggers that can't figure out what to do with their time when they are alone, because they are too pathetic to develop any personality, or hobbies.
Yes. Feel free nigger. Pop pills and be a fuck bag until you die.
I got rid of a lot of my SA by doing therapy at a psychologist. Im not sure about america, but in europe these people need a masters to be allowed to give therapy. Their methods are thus based on scientifically proven to be effective methods. Mostly CBT, and (once you're ready for it) exposure therapy.
My therapist also helped me identify the 'core' fear in relation to my social anx, which I later learned influenced a lot of other things in my life (like avoiding work/study).
They don't have a magic trick to cure you, but the good news is you can work for it, and at least significantly reduce your anxiety.
To be honest I think this is your best option. All the self-help stuff is hard to do by yourself, or sometimes just complete bullshit.
>>717580095 Are you fucking retarded? Honestly, are you?
Don't you realize that people with social anxiety disorder NEED exposure therapy ?! They HAVE to do it. Finding a hobby that isolates you will do the exact opposite. They can have whatever hobbies they like as long as they EXPOSE themselves, not isolate themselves.
>>717577565 I wouldn't say I've "beaten" it, but it's no longer a problem ...
About 3 years ago I took a job in a software support department, I spaghetti'd my way through the interview, I at least prepared some questions so it sounded like I wanted it.
Every day for about 8 months I'd have to answer the phone about 20 times, trying to placate incredibly angry, stupid people. I couldn't provide them any real solutions because I didn't know shit about the few million lines of code they could have been complaining about.
It was really stressful, a large part of my social anxiety is tied to falling short of public expectations. When you're getting shouted at everyday by random people because you don't know how to fix their problems, it feels like total shit.
Anyway, after about a year of that, it's almost impossible not to become extremely jaded towards peoples demands/expectations on your behavior.
After a year, people would be shouting at me, pissed off they didn't get their overblown problem that really doesn't fucking matter solved instantly and I was just thinking to my self, yeah yeah, I don't give a fuck, nobody really cares about this problem, you're completely bullshitting me when you say you're losing 40k every week because of this problem, I give 0 shits about bullshitting you back and telling you exactly what you want to hear. It was very liberating to not give a fuck.
My hands still sweat profusely every time I pick up a phone, but I can do it without issue and I don't let it get in the way.
>>717580108 >psychologist I'm seeing my fourth, first 3 didn't help at all, this one seems to be better but no difference in 6 months of seeing her. Also on AD but that's more recent, haven't made a difference yet.
>>717580317 Sure, learning how to be comfy being alone is super important for literally every human regardless of mental state.
But this guy is just being an edgelord for the sake of being an edgelord with an unearned superiority complex attached. "hurrdurp people are dumb the sith were right all along I'm so smart and everyone else on the face of the earth is dumb and uninteresting and there is nothing of value to ever be learned or gained from others"
I love being alone, but this is just unproductive when the OP specifically asked for help with socializing in general.
>>717580556 Be this niganon. Goes to 4chan for deep conversations. Thinks 4chan advice is legit. Can't be alone, because Dindu genetics prevent him from Would be a suicide statistic if he could figure out a firearm.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but there is a reason alcohol exists. There's a direct correlation with happy people and alcohol consumption, and modern society would not exist without it - there's actually a super interesting documentary on that very subject.
Basically, as bureaucracy, social queues, and complexity of modern life increase, alcohol is a proven medication for that which when consumed in healthy amounts and in moderate intervals, can cure so many ailments of modern existence.
Also, it gives you something to talk about and a prop to hold in your hand. Just being honest.
It's all about everything in moderation. Socialize in moderation, drink in moderation, be happy and be sad in moderation. Be moderate in moderation - sometimes you gotta go crazy too. The sum of the results is healthy balance.
But I'm fucking armchair psychoanalyzing right now and I haven't even had a drink so don't listen to this old piece of shit.
>>717580977 You don't even know how to greentext m8. How are you supposed to ruffle my unflappable feathers if you can't even put your words together coherently? I own a couple of firearms and consider myself to be pretty well educated on the mechanical and safety aspects of being a responsible gun owner.
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