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Why is this transgender/"gender fluid"/asexual bullshit

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Why is this transgender/"gender fluid"/asexual bullshit a thing now? Where the fuck did it come from? Did someone make it up as a joke and the autistic fucking youth of 2016 think it was real? Help me understand
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>>717559073
gender fluidity has been around since before 2016. pretty much as long as tumblr and pintrest have been around it has been around.
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>>717559073
Autistic youth made this shit happen. They cut om their dicks or tape one on and expect their deep depression to change. But it doesnt. Doesnt matter what the fuck you tape on or cut off. You are still what you were born with.
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>>717559073
It's because we don't kill off retarded people anymore.
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People desperately trying to either be offended, special, or both. If you want to be special, put some effort into your life instead of claiming your sexuality is twelve different colours.
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>>717559073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8
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>>717559073
"transgender" is the new JNCOs or KIK wear of the 2010's. It'll fade soon enough and everyone involved will look back and be ashamed. Don't worry.
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>>717559073
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its called the internet buddy. bullshit is all over it. even we are bullshit.
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Just goes to show you kids are fucking retarded, back when I was a kid we did shit like drive by's and sold pot, now it's all about faggitory and dicks.
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"asexual" is code for "I'm broken and/or ugly and I am too lazy to fix it"
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I cant fucking FATHOM why people do this shit... like... these people must have legitimate delusions of grandeur. Everyone around them can see it and expresses it to them and they have the fucking nerve to think theyre an oppressed minority
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>>717559073
It's been around since humans have been around.

Get educated.
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One thing I can say is 4chan made me think I was kinda gay, watching trap porn and shit.. I know now that I am not gay and try to avoid traps and anything with dicks in it. Mostly all Solo Girls and masturbation stuff now or voyeur.
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We need a unbiased group of psychologists to actually draw the line between actual sexuality and attentionwhoring, but my opinion is if they're using it as a way to be happier with themselves go ahead, if its to be important fuck off.
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>>717559073
Gender is a reference to biology not sexuality. They are both different. A male can be hetrosexual or gay. The same for women.

Trans is not a sexuality nor can it be gender because humans can only produce with two biological outcomes when we are born. You have a vag or dick.
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>>717559073
was never real OP....just something else the hipster faggots started to try & win the "LOOK AT MEEEEEE" awards...lol
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>>717559073
how they think.
>be a man
>want benefits of being a woman
>wants to be treated special for looking nice by other guys
>could literally be a pedophile with little to no consequence
>get idea
>say he is a she and call sexism and homophobia if disagreeing with him
>people bite
>in liberal extremists eyes, he is now a woman
>only ones that see through him are the people that are not afraid of being called sexist or racist or homophobic
>still a win

i have talked with many trans people to figure out if maybe I'm the wrong one. and i have asked with a open mind trying to understand, and i did. if you want you can be another gender. you are not born in the wrong body, you don't base it on physical and hormonal differences, it's about what you WANT that decides. it's retarded really. it's literally the same as saying that since you want to be a dog, you therefor are. this is not men and women not giving a fuck about gender rolles, but they actually try to be the opposite gender. it's like furies for gender only most furies know they are human acting like animals cause they think its funny. trans people act like the opposite sex because they think they are the opposite sex. sex change should be illegal.
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>John William Money (8 July 1921 – 7 July 2006) was a psychologist, sexologist and author, specializing in research into sexual identity and biology of gender. He was one of the first scientists to study the psychology of sexual fluidity and how the societal constructs of "gender" affect an individual. His work has been both celebrated for its innovation and criticized, particularly in regard to his involvement with the discredited sex-reassignment of David Reimer[1] and his eventual suicide. Money published around 2,000 articles, books, chapters and reviews. His writing has been translated into many languages. Money has received around 65 world-wide honors, awards, and degrees.[2]

this degenerate, thought he was God
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Google gender fluid and this garbage shows up

"Gender fluid is a gender identity which refers to a gender which varies over time. A gender fluid person may at any time identify as male, female, neutrois, or any other non-binary identity, or some combination of identities. Their gender can also vary at random or vary in response to different circumstances."

But what does it all mean?
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>>717559073
You will like this short article:
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/27191
tl;dr: Because gender was made up to replace sex, and when it didn't reflect reality, they made the concept more flexible to account for the inconsistencies. Eventually this grew into the stupid millenial ideas we have today.
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It is seriously some of the most sexist shit I've ever heard.

You have a bunch of guys/girls claiming to know exactly what it's like to feel like a woman/man, respectively, when they literally have no frame of reference and couldn't possibly know what it's like to be the other.

Then they're claiming that certain things that they're into and certain feelings are what make them "feel" that way. Well, I'm not going to argue with your feelings, but I feel like you're either retarded or an attention whore. Of course that's none of my business unless you make it my business and most of these fucks are as annoying as vegans, people who do crossfit, and Texans.
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>>717559737
This.

I'm a straight white dude but this thread is just the fucking worst.
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>>717560684
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>>717559073
More importantly, what's with this dogface bullshit?
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>>717559158
>Closet homo detected.
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just like to point out this is only prevelant in america

america going to shit since Nov 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI
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>>717559549
>Things that didn't happen.
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>>717560757
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>>717559737
>>717560757
Factually incorrect.
Gender doesn't exist, just sex. As a result, genderfluid also doesn't exist.
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transgenderism has been around for ages, I'm transgender and transitioning, it's not the same as the genderfluid shit, it's actually been neurologically and psychologically studied
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>>717560888
This was very educational.

Thank you anon.

Checked.
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>>717559785
If you watch trap porn you are probably bisexual or gay.
Don't come at me with that 'feminine penis' shit.
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Hold. Lemme just seriously ask a question here.

If gender is not physical sex, and gender stereotyping is bad, then what is it to identify with a "gender"? What is it you're identifying with? It's not physical, and it's not literally anything else that makes up gender stereotypes, so what is it?
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Give me a reason to give a fuck what one calls oneself. Sorry, in advance because you can't.
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>>717561008
you're welcome b/ro
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>>717559236
>>717560400
>>717560561
>>717560694
>>717560888
/thread
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>>717560958
sure, sure ... why don't you accept that you're just crazy?

gender is a biological thing, not something you can choose.

you can have surgery and treatments to change some of your superficial biological expressions but that's like modding a car, your core still stays the same.
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Being a faggot is mad complex yo.
Mad props to OP
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>>717561021
>Nah man, a dick is a dick and it is gay to watch trap porn. I no longer do this, and I don't think of myself as gay. I blame4chan for sucking me into its faggotry
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>>717561288
Yes anon, >>717560958 has something wrong with them (I wouldn't say crazy, though). However, both of you are wrong because gender was made up so that differences between the sexes can be blamed on socialization.
>>717560958 is right that it has been studied, and there are notable structural and functional differences in the brain that can be observed, so dysphoria is a real thing.
Surgery and hormonal treatment are still widely controversial though, because they won't necessarily help the individual feel any better about themselves.
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>>717561594
If you liked traps, you like traps. Can't blame 4chan. Avoiding it doesn't change the fact.
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>>717559368

hope so
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>>717561772
Are you sure? I think /b/ made me a pedo.
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>>717561772
I liked the idea of the sissy's being controlled, dominated "me" being powerful towards them. Just having that control was what got me, then I found that being a master is way better and the holes are sweeter and wetter.
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>>717561658
Widely controversial? More like over 98 percent of psychs and endos with any qualifications whatsoever agree that they're the best approach, atleast that hormones are, surgeries are more controversial just because the surgeries are in their infancy, not because transitioning isn't good for the person..
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>>717559073
>implying this hasn't been around forever in one form or another

Kek
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>>717562450
>says something reasonable
REGRESSIVE BETA CUCKCCUKCUCKCUCKCUCKCUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>717560759
I honestly hope I'm this good of a father when I have kids. I don't know if I would have handled it as well as he did. This also probably never happened anyway.
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>>717562145
>More like over 98 percent of psychs and endos[citation needed]
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>>717562145

Thats not the issue.

There are a few people who genuinly believe they are in the wrong body thier entire life. Then there are the other 90%.

People who are mostly going through puberty with hormonal inbalances, they see no way of getting attention in thier lives and stumble across this. Its essentially a fettish that allowed a person who nobody gives a fuck about to get massive amounts of posotive attention.

Then after mutilating thier hormones to the point that things like erectile disfunction become likely they realize most of the world still dont give a fuck and they grow out of the trend. Only its already too late.

Its literally the new emo esque trend only you cant grow out of it
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>>717562145
You have to jump through a lot of hoops to go through with it, because we want to be sure it will help them before carrying the permanent procedure of sex change. Surgery is controversial because about 20% of all people who go through a sex change regret their decision, so it's not necessarily an effective treatment.
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>>717562944
>People who are mostly going through puberty with hormonal inbalances, they see no way of getting attention in thier lives and stumble across this. Its essentially a fettish that allowed a person who nobody gives a fuck about to get massive amounts of posotive attention.
And here is the problem with conflating madeup words like 'gender' with real words like 'sex'. I think we should acknowledge a distinction between transgenders (transtrenders) and transsexuals (experience dysphoria).
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The amount of closed-minded retard here is really awful. Not because you don't understand something mean you have to be like this. Worst thing about it, it's that Tumblr or Feminazi show you a fake / extreme version which is false.
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>>717562944
If you seriously think that it's 90 percent that aren't trans then you're an idiot and spend way too much time on conservative news sites, also if you think that the only thing taking hormones does is give you erectile dysfunction you're fucking autistic.
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>>717562795
the fact that the best hospitals in every country openly support transgender clinics and many have clinics, i.e cinci childrens being an example.
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Guys, not because a bunch of stupid feminazi take that thing to the extreme mean it's fake. And not because you don't understand something mean you have to trash it, it's way more complex.
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>>717563277
since when are transtrenders the only people who call themself transgender? Most people who experience gender dysphoria and transition call themself transgender
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>>717563470
Unfortunate, isn't it?
Some transsexuals reject the label though, because they understand the dangers of conflating ideological terms with real science, and the effect it can have on people perceptions of trans people when special snowflakes hijack the label to feel special.
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>>717563299
The responsibility therefore falls on you to point out the distinction between gender and sex, and to educate them on the evidence for dysphoria. Getting offended won't help anyone.
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>>717563725
Transgenderism refers to having gender dysphoria......
Are you autistic?
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There have been more that two genders in many different cultures for thousands of years, educate yourself.
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if the solution is cutting off your dick then the problem must be pretty weird
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>>717563950
>more than two genders
kek
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Gender is merely a construct: http://www.theplaidzebra.com/science-finally-supports-that-we-are-all-born-as-blank-slates-and-gender-is-merely-a-construct/
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To put it into perspective.
The internet became a thing. People started coming up with a bunch of fucking pronouns, and now it's mostly a teenage/mid 20s type of thing.

It's really just a phase and will probably fade within a few years.

People just have to deal with it because if we don't then a bunch of SJWs bitch and complain.
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>>717563966
>thinks they just cut it off
severe autism detected
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>>717564059
is my dick also a social construct
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>>717564059
Ignore all of the neurological studies that prove otherwise
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>>717564120
oh sorry, I meant to say "split your dick" my bad
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>>717564092
people have called themself trans since long before the internet existed..
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IDC what any of you say you ether have a dick or you don't end of story. Fucking faggots trying to make it sound ok.
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>>717559211
>People desperately trying to either be offended, special, or both. If you want to be special, put some effort into your life instead of claiming your sexuality is twelve different colours.

This anon gets it. Simply being gay is no longer fashionable these days, so these attention seeking morons have to invent all kinds of bullshit so they can feel special.

You will also notice that the most extreme ones simply are't happy with being some bullshit made up gender, they also have a shit ton of self diagnosed kondishuns and is an activist for any new shit that's cool to follow

It's clever really, because it means they can act like assholes AND play the victim at the same time
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>>717564161
they make it functional as a vagina for sex and it cosmetically looks extremely similar if not identical, in practice it basically is a vagina that cant be used to give birth with very slight differences to that of a normal one.
are you one of these autistic fucks who thinks girls and guys are made of different magic essence or some shit
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>>717564197
can we not lump in transgender people with transtrenders
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>>717564256
you've never seen any tranny vaginas have you

they most certainly do not look like the real thing because you can instantly tell the difference
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>>717564169
Trans has been a thing forever. I'm talking about the bullshit
Non-Binary
Agender
Genderqueer
Cisgender
Transfeminine

etc.
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>>717564136

A dick does not determine your gender, some people really can't grasp that gender and your genitals are not the same thing.
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>>717564374
if they're not the same thing then why do people want to transform their genitalia
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>>717559073
really why it's "a thing" now is that it's always been a thing. people like that do what they do because they're happier that way, and living as whatever they were born as made them unhappy. people like that have always existed. but before now, most of them just lived miserable lives, probably a lot of them killed themselves, because there was no other option (practically speaking. there were plenty of transgender people through history, but it was less common to find people open about it).
it's not just some fad, the reason that it seems like a new phenomenon is just that people are deciding to say fuck it, and do the thing that makes them happy, and that makes them visible, and that looks strange to people.

I have no dog in this fight, but please, sincerely, can't you try to start from empathy?
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>>717564374
I know this is a bait thread but you all know you are wrong, a dick is a dick a vagina is a vagina. You can take pills to hid the fact you are a man or a women but the truth is what you come out of your mothers vagina you are.
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>>717563339

I listed erectile disfunction as one of the effects, read what i said.

just look at how big its become. Its a fucking bandwagon mate, most trans would be onto some other social/sexual neiche by now to hide from the fact that life is too short to be worrying about this shit v
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>>717564317
heavily depends on the surgeon.
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>>717560888
LUL and check'em
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Here is a map of gender-diverse cultures all over the world, have you been living under a rock? http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/
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>>717564333
cisgender literally just means someone who isnt transgender, sjws didnt invent that.
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>>717563942
Gender dysphoria is an unfortunate label. It's nothing to do with social constructs. A better label would be sexual dysphoria. In real cases of dysphoria (particularly in adulthood, which is why treatment for teenagers and children is controversial), you will notice there are distinct differences in certain sexually dimorphic parts of the brain between controls and individuals who experience dysphoria. I think calling it sexual dysphoria is more accurate, in that case, and I believe we should reserve a different term for people that aren't actually transsexual. For example, you would recognise a difference between a transsexual and a transvestite, so why not transtrenders?
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>>717564465
no it doesn't
a real vagina on the inside has skin that is completely to that on the outside of the penis

it is impossible to make a penis look like a real vagina because it just isn't made out of the same skin, and I can tell you that on this board I've seen enough to know the difference
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If i got fished by a trap I would kill them.
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>>717559073
I don't get it either. Trannies are like 3-5% of the population, I've only seen a handful in my life. It's more an American thing tho. If it was up to me I'd make all bathrooms unisex, just because I like the sound of girls peeing.
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>>717564451
did you just skip 8th grade biology or something, are you seriously so dense that you think that the only sex characteristic is the genitalia, and that one is made of something entirely different then the other
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>>717564531
Yeah but it didn't become popular usage until this while shit started up
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>>717564531
Why do we need another word for that? We already have one. Normal.
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>>717564461
Literally no evidence to back this up, rates of transgenderism havent gone up any, its just that more people come out publicly now
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Regarding asexuality, I think that's a very old thing, but maybe now it has more attention. I wouldn't call myself asexual, but I just don't feel the need to have sexual contact, even when possible. I'm guessing some people simply don't feel it at all.
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>>717564588
I think you heavily underestimate how advanced some doctors are at doing mtf surgery, ftm is in its infancy, mtf is pretty good, despite the massive recovery time.
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>>717564604
they're more like .3 percent of the population
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>>717564605
people who say there are more than 2 genders have skipped year 3 biology

>>717564717
mate i could post some right now
it's fucking disgusting
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>>717564451
that's true, but it's not gender. it's sex. sex is (aside from some genetic aberrations) binary. gender is social. It's phenotypes and genotypes, mang.
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>>717564519
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>>717564650
dont cut yourself on that edge mate,
>lol people I find weird are just abnormal lol cuck cuck cuck
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>>717564652
>Normal.
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>>717564605
I'm not going to argue with you, the government assignees it SS#'s in the same fate Dick or Vagina. I think you faggots and dikes are nothing but mentally ill.
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>>717559073
Cultural marxism addresses how these imerging ideologies are unavoidable. YouTube critical theory if you legitimately want an answer.
Its still a theory, and it could be a justification to keep current societal norms for the sake of nostalgia.
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>>717559073
My younger cousin thinks he's a chick. His mother literally paid fuck all attention to him until he started this shit (before that she mostly praised her other son for being sporty, despite the fact that he's borderline retarded)

Since then, she's spent much more time with him, so I'm assuming this bullshit is purely attention seeking, but to the point where they've convinced themselves they're something they're not
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>>717564744
Then it makes even more sense to burdening society with the unnecessary adaptation of infrastructure.
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>>717564374

You need a grasp on reality. Look at the world around you look at what humanity has built and lost, greed, overpopulation real issues that good people face in silence And your biggest concern is convincing people who give 0 fucks that a gender specific organ does not define your gender.
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>>717559073
Do you have this pic without the dogface shit by chance?
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>>717564766
Never said there are more then two genders? transgenderism is having the neurological and psychological traits of one gender that do not correlate with ones anatomy at birth.
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The elephant in the room is that intersex people are real, their genitalia is somewhere in-between and are a lot more common than you would think. Also some cis-men are infertile and some cis-women cannot conceive (just like trans people). Even within biology there is so much diversity, we just choose to ignore it and pretend it isn't there.
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>>717564916
what? do you seriously think adapting society to fit transgender people is that difficult
its simple
have the nhs cover necessary shit
dont discriminate them needlessly
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>>717564964
how can one have neurological and psychological traits of a gender if gender is a social construct, and social constructs don't have either of these
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>>717564863
instead of shittalking from a distance, why wouldn't you just ask your cousin about how they feel about it? why would your assumption be that it's all petty and manipulative like that?
if your cousin is happier now than before, live and let live.
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>>717565054
Sarcasm bud
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>>717564982
so you're talking about less than <0.01% of the population that to this day is still ignored?
they have a real condition i can accept because it's genetic, unlike transgenders who just have a mental condition
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>>717565132
I say rape him like a women, rape him so bad they have to staple his ass. Then they can feel like a women. Take their power from them, it will all sort out in the end.
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>>717565103
gender isnt a social construct, the way society views gender is a construct of the neurological and psychological differences between men and women being exaggerated for political and financial purposes, but the differences are still meaningful for an individual and are there
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>>717564982
That doesn't make them intersex, that makes them deformed. Sex-determination in humans happens at conception. Chromosomal differences determine sex in humans.
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>>717564654

Ok so your only gripe with my point is i dont have the official numbers? I bothered to take a look and there is no cencus so i can only go by what i see. I already stated this is opinion, the burden of proof is on you if you wish to present it as fact.
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>>717565207
>ignore all psych studies
>assert retarded opinion
>call anyone who disagrees with you an sjw
basically the way anti transgender people talk
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>>717565207
We already have bathrooms for handicapped people.
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>>717565275
its just that the statistics on it havent changes in a meaningful way, you're the one asserting that there are more transgender people now or that its just now becoming a thing with no evidence, the burden of proof is clearly on you.
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>>717564197
Wanna try again with conditions? You see that word in the shower if you took one faggot.
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>>717565285
>psych studies
how is this relevant
are you implying transgenderism isn't purely psychological

>>717565288
that's because people in a wheelchair PHYSICALLY need it
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>>717565288
edgey
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>>717565237
please read more about intersex people. I'm sure it's easier for you to think that it's that simple but it straight-up provably is not.
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>>717565288
TopKek!
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>>717565210
Roll
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>>717565389
transgenderism has been neurologically studied
you're literally talking on a topic you havent even studied yourself, you sound like such a retard.
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because homosexuality is a fashion trend that comes and goes. it's been like that through history.

it will never be mainstream or considered normal to be a homosexual deviant, but you will be socially accepted.

there's no reason what so ever to hate faggots as they pose no threat against normal men.
>faggots aren't interested in women
>faggots can't procreate normally
>their contributions to society are limited

just accept them for what they are: degenerate people that has as much right to exist as you and me, after all, it's not like normal people don't practice degeneracy in the comfort of their own bedrooms
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>>717565476
If it's all neurological how come they still need hormones? Sounds like circular reasoning, at least if the differences in brain structure predispose hormone treatment.
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>>717565476
>appeal to authority with no arguments
>condescending tone with no arguments
so this is the power of sjw debating

again, please explain what the link between intersex people (a genetic issue) and transgender people (a mental issue)
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If you are a man and you like trans 'girls' you are gay prove me wrong PRO TIP YOU CAN'T
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>>717559073
moot started it.
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>>717565562
they take hormones to change their body closer to the other sex.....
can you not understand theres a distinction between your brain and the rest of your body?
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>>717560759
Did somebody tell her the period goes inside the quotes?
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>>717565406
Nah, don't worry, I already know.
It still divides into male and female, though.
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>>717565647
PRO TIP WHO GIVES A SHIT
does marshaling someone else's sexuality make you feel more straight?
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>>717565647
liking someone who's taken hormones to have breasts smoother skin hips large thighs and to look mostly like a woman and have a body closer if not the same as a woman makes you gay apparently
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>>717559073
Honestly, this wasn't on anyone's radar until gay marriage became legalized. The left needed a new social crusade when they saw their old one wouldn't be able to be milked for any more pity votes, so they chose a new hill to die on
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>>717565679
>theres a distinction between your brain and the rest of your body
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that's the best fucking thing I've read all year so far
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>>717565375

>>717565375

What statistics? Please provide them.

it seems you've resorted to arguing about numbers any my lack of them when i already explained this is only my opinion.
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>>717565679
>distinction between your brain and your body
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>>717565739
Really and truly you want to stick it in a mans bum but your too insecure to admit it.
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>>717565746
read a neurological study on the topic, dumbass.
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>>717565825
ok, your opinion is wrong..
all because you think something doesnt magically make it so, sorry mate.
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>>717565859
Sure man, got some sauce?
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>>717565859
can you find one that actually proves that
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>>717559073
Trannies have existed for as long as the human race has. This may shock you, but the world has existed for longer than you've been alive.

The world is just tiny now, so everyone's opinion is damn near instantly accessable. Thank you, microprocessing
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>>717565679
Do you mean to say "your brain is an organ, and as such it can have defects, such as anomalies in the sexually dimorphic areas"?
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>>717566037
See, now this I can agree with. That said, it doesn't make them less degenerate.
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>>717566037
calling transgenderism a defect doesnt really make sense
you have a functioning female brain with male anatomy or vice versa
the most you can call it is a developmental mishap
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>>717565647
>>717565739
even your ugly ass queen seems to think so https://youtu.be/8EDRqPaB03I?t=148
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>>717565937
>>717565970
Not the person you're replying to, but:
http://transcience-project.org/brain_sex.html
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>>717565937
>>717565970
Not that anon, but Just look at this reliable information. totally not snakeskin oil
http://www.thebestbrainpossible.com/the-mind-and-the-brain-what-is-the-difference/
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>>717560888
I like that little infographic, its rather accurate & informative lmao
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>>717559073
It's been around since Ancient Greece and probably earlier. It became a public thing around 2013.
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>>717566100
>you have a functioning female brain with male anatomy
proof?
as far as biology goes the definition of a male brain is a brain inside a male
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>>717565970
>the brain
an organ in your head made up of poly and mono unsaturated fat, water, and protein
>your body
a biologically interconnected system of other organs

>cit. Me, 1/3/17

Are you retarded?
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>>717560958
Humour me here, suppose you are transitioning from A to B, do you consider yourself to be B in the body of A?

If so by transitioning to B does this not imply that you are not truly B as the taking of hormones, surgery etc demonstrates that you have to make changes to be more B? Surely the act of transitioning demonstrates that you yourself consider the body and apperance that you give to be indicative of gender, and as becoming a true B is physiologically and genetically impossible, doing so will leave you as nothing more than a mutilated A?

If however you consider yourself to be A, why transition?
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>>717566122
I dont even know who the fuck that is
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>>717565103
The brain can imagine a hella lotta crap, that doesn't make it real though. A lot of it is also just taking random feelings/thoughts/etc and trying to use it as a means of labeling yourself some make up gender (i.e. if you have no sexual desire, you're not "asexual", you're just a male or female that happens to not care about sex).
Society's problem in all this is vetting these make believe "genders" and encouraging people to believe the lies. A 3 year old can run around the yard flapping his/her arms saying, "I'm an eagle!" and it can be fun pretending for little while, or you can keep telling that kid, "Yep, you're an eagle" the rest of his/her life till he/she can function as an adult and may even jump to their death thinking they could fly.

Science and religion finally agree on something (that there are only 2 genders), but somehow it's still a fucking issue because of the screwed up minds that can't distinguish fantasy from reality, and the political asshole that think they can take advantage of those people.
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>>717565936

My opinion is just That, but you calling me wrong is also only your opinion.

If you want to be the one crying about proof then provide your own or shut the fuck up about it.
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>>717566145
>http://transcience-project.org
Yeah that doesn't sound biased at all. At least they have used 10 sources, even if '95 is a little outdated when it comes to psych and neuro.
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I almost fucked a tranny once, I talked to him about if it would make me gay.. He said if your not gay you can't have sex with a tranny.
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>>717559737
100% fact. Kids today don't know history.
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>>717566100
>calling transgenderism a defect doesnt really make sense
>the most you can call it is a developmental mishap
What exactly is the distinction?
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>>717566213
http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/ this compiled alot of peer reviewed studies info, it includes examples of the differences between men and womens brains.
honestly are people this uneducated, this should be common knowledge.
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>>717566122
>using a degenerate as "proof".

WEW LAD
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>>717565132
He feels worse now from what I've heard. I don't talk because he gets bullied enough as it is in school, and I don't want to make him kill himself (he's about 12 so idk how he'd take it if I just said 'so is the whole shemale act just to get your mum's attention').

I still think they shouldn't get to pick their names. When I was 12 I wanted to be called volcano, but I never told anyone this factoid because it's fucking autistic to want people to call you volcano, and I was smart enough to know I'd get bullied for it
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>>717559073
Transgenderism has been around for thousands of years and is mostly the result of people wishing they were born as the opposite sex.

Gender fluidity is just people not quite realizing that they can dress however the fuck they please as adults and that gender, when not explicitly tied to biological sex, is a useless concept.

Asexuality is a lack of sexual desire for other people, which is often "fuck bitches get money" people who just don't care enough to get a partner because their work is more important to them but has recently attracted a bunch of fucking faglords who wanna pretend they're virgins because they're asex to justify not improving themselves.
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>>717560473
define irony.

>gender norms should be abolished
>defines whole gender based on gender norms

because i can't just be a guy who likes to dress like a girl, or vice versa, how I dress has to define my gender. Fucking bullshit. Nongenderconforming=/=trans.
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>>717566257
*can't function as an adult
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>>717566274
1) You replied to the wrong anon
2) It was the first thing I saw on Google, but studies are easy to find
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>>717566216
oh so by distinction you mean an arbitrary difference?
ok

>>717566347
ok so physical differences, everyone knows this
believe it or not, transgenders don't actually have physically different brains so your argument makes no sense
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>>717565285
>(((psych studies)))
How's that cultural Marxism treating ya, bud?
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>>717566308
a mental disorder is a malfunctioning of the brain, a developmental mishap in this case is having a functioning brain that doesnt match the anatomy for the practical functioning of your life, i.e a female brain in a male body.
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>>717566398
Find me one cross-dressing freak thats not a degenerate PRO TIP YOU CANT
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>>717566268
You're the one asserting something you fucking idiot.
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>>717566473
yea, they do http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
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>>717566216
>totally ignoring the lymbic system
Go back to biology retard.
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You know what else is bullshit? Pansexuality. You aren't pan- you're bi. There are two genders. If you're attracted to the opposite you're straight, to the same, you're gay, and to both, you're bi. Simple as that. Straight guys don't like dicks, straight girls don't like vagina.

I can't claim to be straight if I like girls with dicks. I can't claim to be bi if I do, but I don't like guys with dicks. Its pretty fucking simple.
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Hey kids, if you ever wanted to see what real, full-throttle cunt-numbing liberal indoctrination is...
Look at this faggot.
>>717565285
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>>717566503
please be bait
I dont want to believe that there are people retarded enough to believe that psychology is sjw
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>>717566597
then why is the criteria for hormones and a sex change never about physical brain differences?
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>>717566216
It's not March yet
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>>717566669
I'm not a liberal... ?
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>>717566597
Get some proper sources form medical journals, get that biashed shit out of here ffs. Didn't they never teach at school how to find good sources?
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>>717560400
Hermaphrodites tho
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>>717566674
psychology is a pseudo science though

it's all "studies" and never real proof
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>>717566676
because you can base it off of psychology, the neurological differences lead to psychological differences which we can more easily diagnose then doing a scan on someone's brain which is much more difficult
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No chicks with dicks only men with tits!!!!!!
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>>717566674
>believes cultural marxism isnt real
>believes islam is a religion of peace
>is the 99%
>thinks black lives matter
>thinks trump is literally hitler
>thinks russia is the devil
>thinks europe is socialist paradise that doesn't have 20-year old oncological treatment options as the norm
>thinks his facebook page matters
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>>717566722
it's citing peer reviewed studies you autistic fuck.
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>>717566773
need help carrying around the assumptions mate?
also saying cultural marxism makes no sense, marxism is only concerned with economics, how the fuck can you be a cultural marxist, its like being a cultural keynesian, it makes no sense.
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>>717566563

You stated the statistics on it have not changed, please post them, i would genuinley like to see them.

As for the proof thing. You can say/theorise what you like, if you want to call it fact then the burden of proof comes in. You are the only person to suggest factually knowing the numbers, i said what i think from my own experiences
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>>717566744
It's far from pseudo science, it's a human science. But agreed when used by trannie pushers it IS mostly psedo bs
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To be or not to be a faggot is the question! I don't care if a trans person thinks they are female they aren't and I am surely tell you and straight man will agree your a fucking faggot if you fuck a man in the butthole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF19XWWyREE
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>>717559073
>Why is this transgender/"gender fluid"/asexual bullshit a thing now?

because Jews decided it.

>Where the fuck did it come from?

entertainment industries - basically Jewish circles.

> Did someone make it up as a joke and the autistic fucking youth of 2016 think it was real?

nope, and you may be surprised that autistic fucking youth of 2016 just happened to be the merchandise, not the actual client.

> Help me understand
the daily Jewish "Benedictions" are actually maledictions against us goyim (non-Jewish, aka "talking animals").
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>>717566533
I said it was a defect of the sexually dimorphic areas of the brain (there are sexually dimorphic areas, rather than there being a strictly 'male/female' brain; i.e. there are structural and functional differences, namely a difference in grey-matter volume and cerebral blood flow during certain activities). I probably should have said 'anomaly' instead of 'defect'.
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>>717566906
just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense nigger. I'm not even the poster you're replying to, but you're literally saying "because i don't understand it, it must not be real".

grow up.
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>>717566750
so you're saying that simply asking questions to someone is enough to determine the physical characteristics of their brain
I'd like some evidence backing this up because your article certainly doesn't mention it
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I'm gender fluid.... If I go to the gym and there is open showers... I'm a woman.... All other time... Male
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>>717566674
I don't see how you can treat a brain by talking. Sure, it's interesting to get a feel of how your typical person thinks, but too many milennials see head doctors these days, all because a bunch of movies and shows say shit like 'it's fine to see a shrink', even though there's no real scientific basis for any of the diagnoses or treatments.
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>>717566906

Cultural marxism is very real, feel free to defend it but dont deny it witouth looking into it more.
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>>717566473
>distinction
>arbitrary difference

...Yes. Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>717567024
its a consistently occurring development in the womb, i dont know if calling it that makes sense either.
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>>717567138
GB2/pol/. There's no kikes running the show, it's women who got the power to vote nao.
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>>717566674
Not the other anon, but some psychology is SJW. Sometimes certain hypotheses are 'preferred', and since a large amount of psychology uses small sample sizes and unreliable frequentist statistics, a study can very easily support whatever hypothesis you want it to.
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>>717567203
I have no idea what you're talking about, but also no: grey matter volume changes through growth and development, and as a result of drugs or alcohol or addiction or depression or pretty much anything. Neuroscience is complicated.
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>>717566744
no it would be pseudo science if it ever claimed to prove anything. The scientific method doesn't really allow for anyone following it to find actual proof. Part of every psychological study is the part where they break down everything that was wrong or that could be improved about their study..
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>>717566943
But when you test ethnicity and IQ, it becomes a pseudoscience for these fuckers because there's "no scientific basis for why the IQs are so different"
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>>717567286
like the anti transgender retard who did a study on one person, gave them pimozide, they became a fucking zombie and didnt think about their gender dysphoria, or about anything, and retards cite it to make an anti trans point all of the time, like that?
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>>717567524
niggers will always be niggers.
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>>717560888
damn this is what i've been trying to say this whole time
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>>717567286
other anon, I disagree. I studies psy for quite some years. It's as legit as it can get when studying something as fickle as humanity. But it does get misused often by faggots who only want to push their own agenda and increase their better than thou status
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>>717559073
I cant fucking stand that gender fluid shit, it something mentally unstable subjects has come up with it, because it somehow helps them feel better about themself. Im actually fine with that, let them do their gender shit if it helps. WHAT I CANT FUCKING STAND is thesee mentally ill people want the rest of the world to accept this and make it part of reality, THIS CANNOT FUCKING HAPPEN and it shall never be accepted into reality.
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>>717559073
We're in a state of social degradation, thanks to jewish liberal media/political agenda.
First it was homosexuality. Then transsexuality. Neither is new, both were wrong and now they expect everyone to accept these as a norm.

But gender fluid is just something made up by the youth of LGBT and feminist people. They want to reduce meaning of gender so it would matter less who fucks who or what. In my humble opinion, it's bullshit. Thinking you're something other than your physical gender oughta be a mental condition and should be treated as such.
Good evidence of this is the alarmingly high suicide rate of post-op trannies.
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If you're a dude who wants to be a chick go ahead
If you're a chick who wants to be a dude go ahead

but the second you start talking about this "more than one gender" bullshit I immediately think you're mentally retarded.
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>>717560888
lol
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>>717560888
Like the idea, but the left one is off innit'?

> gay cis man
I am a faggot that likes dicks

> bisexual trans man
I am a faggot and will fuck anything that moves

MID looks ok.
The far right is simply "mental issues" that needs no description.
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>>717567693
thank you, pro trans anti bullshit, +1
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>>717559651
This. To be healthy is to have a libido.
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>>717567589
There's a lot of bias in the collection of the data, and the statistical models aren't very complicated (and there's far too much reliance on p-values). I've learned that psychologists have recently moved to bayesian statistics and are taking advantage of clinical measures and machine learning, and this will certainly help to improve it.
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>>717567242

Cultural marxism was created in 1919. existance is well recorded, how ironic that you send me to /pol/ when you are ignorant enough to think marxism is some boogyman the alt-right made.
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>>717560781
Another form of attention whoring
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>>717567546
Don't know about that.
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>>717559073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMDCJrRpT8
>>
Hugh Mungus
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>>717567524
Cultural bias in the tests plays a big part, although nig nogs are clearly more retarded. Even my teachers admitted that. then again I studies in Europe at a more conservative Uni, even if there were plenty SJW faggots there too.
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I'm sexually attracted to virtually anything with a pulse. What am I?

>inb4btard
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>>717563456
shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>717565692
no it does not you fuckwit
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>>717568156

Your a fucking lad m8
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I'm trans and you are all fucking ignorant as hell. No doctor should be allowed to tell a newborn what gender it is. It's up to THEM, not some dumbass in a sterilized room. Personally I'm a girl transitioning to become a man and let me tell you babes, I am fucking KILLING the game. My little tic tac has already begun to sprout and god damn is it cute... soooo TBQFH all of you have to get educated... because CLEARLY you're all not fully equipped to speak on this subject. I am, and trust, I'm not crazy, just different (:
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>>717568529
I'm happy for you.
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>>717568529
>/lgbt/
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>>717568529
thks i feel better now
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>>717568156

Horny
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>>717568529
>8 years of med school
>No doctor should be allowed to tell a newborn what gender it is.

Lmao gr8 b8, I r8 8.8/8
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>>717568529

Assigned male or female at birth only applies to intersex people who have had surgery soon after birth to have their genitals look only male or female. AKA sexual assignment surgery. Not because you [i]feel[/i] like the opposite sex. They labeled you female because that's what you ARE and will ALWAYS BE. No amount of hormones will ever give you a fully functioning penis. No amount of lying to yourself will change the fact that you're a woman.
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>>717568529
There's so many more pressing ducked up shit to worry about, runaway greenhouse, war, poverty, famine ect. And people like you are getting triggered atbathroom signs. Kill yourself. No one gives a fuck what you identify as.
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>>717559368
Yeah that's why transgender people are %40 more likely to kill themselves
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>>717560748
What I honestly don't understand is when people become "genderliquid" or trans, they are thereby affirming that gender isn't a social construct, but something engrained inside of them. Which contradicts their normal narrative. You know the:
>there is no such thing as boy toys or girl toys, or girl things or boy things.
>I'm a girl who likes boy things. Therefore must be a boy on the inside.
>get over it.

What worries me, is that while other people do have the concrete mental illness that comes from a hormone imbalance which causes them to believe they are a different sex on the inside, many people are claiming transgender and whatever the fuck, based upon the fact that they liked cars growing up instead of dolls, or dolls instead of cars or whatever the fuck, and they FUCKING mutilate their genitals for shit like this.
>met someone who was transgender who based her reasoning upon the fact that she didn't "much care for makeup, or stuff lolz."
What the fuck.
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>>717569134
>8 years of Med school

You meme'd yourself.
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>>717569421
The mentally ill are sterilizing themselves? What about that sounds like a problem to you, rather than taking a couple of steps out of what is already a sound equation?
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>>717561077

Societal role. I.e, societal role for a man is breadwinner, societal role for women is housewife.
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>>717559073

Sleep with whomever you want to sleep with, it's fine. I don't fucking care.

...but you are born with a penis (man) or a vag (woman).

Who you want to fuck has nothing to do with your "gender". Gender is a biological condition.

If you have penis and you like to suck dick and wear womans clothing, you're still a man. You're just gay. If you like men and woman, you aren't "gender fluid", you are still a man, you are just bisexual.

TLDR; THere is no "fluid" or "alternate gender", What they are really doing is declaring who they like to fuck. WHO CARES?
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>>717566257
Sexuality is different to gender. Sexuality is based on what you're attracted to, gender and sex are what you are. You can be homosexual, asexual, be attracted to animals or even rocks but it doesn't change the fact that you are born male. This agender transgender bigender bullshit is the made up stuff. You are either male, female or a hermaphrodite. That's it.
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>>717572546
thanks
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>>717572546
Thank you, anon.
I also believe they can call themselves whatever they like as long as they keep it for themselves and don't get offended.
This is actually the whole damn point, if you don't play their game of pretending, they rage.

Also today i wondered how for example a genderfluid/non-binary/fuckmyasswhatgender teacher wants to be called by sutdents if they don't wanna go by Mister or Miss?
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>>717574017
I have a hunch that they manipulated the definition of "girl" by looking at historical literature in which he-shes call themselves girls and normal people call them girls as an insult.

Google "gender definition" and it seems it has a new meaning, probably because of some bullshit like that.
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>>717559073
Who is the girl in the back?
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>>717576223

they're both underaged.

MODS!!
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>>717568210
Ages ago I studied this and encountered some one with similar opinions and said: "Yes, it does."
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so what if they are
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>>717559921
fair enough
>>717566732
I DONT EVEN NO WHAT DAT IS HE SAID HE A MALE HERMADAPHFROTITE
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