>>717493565 The two most violent religions that base itself aroumd one deity: christianity & Islam, are not sane with their crazy laws and rules. Almost the both books make it where that deity is behind a emerald certan (wizard of Oz reference). Both start wars kill inocent, and by today norm christianity acts as if they are so pure that they didnt do anything wrong when the islamics attack them. It should be brought up.
I guarantee an angsty muslim wrote this shit. Nearly zero percent of Christians believe in EXACTLY what the bible says. Islam, however, most of them believe in the teachings and apply it to every day life. Best example, Sharia law, they want their OWN OUTDATED LAWS in replacement of current, modern laws.
>>717493821 My question is: How are you not bored out of your skull talking about Christianity, and belabouring this worn out subject. Why not focus on worthwhile and productive things, instead of beating a dead horse.
>>717495975 Bs bruh, sure it doesn't apply for salvation purposes, but it does reveal the christian god's vision for a perfect society and worship, as this is what most of those laws regulate. Remember god's chosen people are the jews, we are merely grafted branches. Included in the tree by our connection to Christ and YHWH, but still unnaturally grafted.
>>717495975 >All of the Old Testament law was invalidated “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
All Religions have a God, and there is no justification for him.
God is merely a delusion, conceived to constitute a faith-based system of morals that are the code of humanity, such as "Don't kill me, I won't kill you." In the usage of agglutination, religion is praiseworthy. In any other sense, ranging from being the bedrock of genuine morality (it isn't), to the fundamentalist beliefs of a 2000 year-old Earth (it isn't), is flagrantly inaccurate. Throughout the years, the deliberation of who's God is better has assaulted our humanity with unending bloodshed, even to this day, specifically in the Middle East. God is not a catalyst for peace and tranquility, he is the chaperon of death. And the sooner we abandon his substance, the sooner we can live our lives to the full.
>>717496400 Actually in the context of the letter it is never stated to be a temporary requirement, and as many other doctrines are appropriated from paul's letters as part of christian doctrine it is not for us to choose which parts we would rather ignore.
>>717497330 Yes, and Jesus said that every word of it still applies. Most people don't know that, because most people don't actually read the bible. Everybody owns one that they carry to church every sunday and open to the four or five out-of-context unrelated passages the preacher is using to "support" whatever social point he's making that day, so they only know the parts that their preacher repeatedly points them toward. It's amazing how many people actually don't know that God once sent bears to eat children for mocking a saint's baldness. It's in the book, but it's in a part that the preacher never refers to in sunday "worship".
>>717497215 And Jesus fulfilled the Law, and decided to change some things because He has the power and the right to do so. That's why honestly we're not to have the death penalty for transgressions. Perfect example, in he OT they were to kill faggots no questions asked, in Romans, it says to leave them to their sins and God will take care of them Himself.
>>717497592 I trust that some people will get triggered about me insulting there religion, I mean there is probably some people pretending, but it still makes for a fun mental exercise to sharpen my "skills".
Paul's vision of the bedsheet descending from heaven with all of the forbidden animals in it reinforces the idea that it was invalidated. His command to Paul to 'kill and eat' previously forbidden animals was to show that they weren't the rule of law anymore. Specifically, that Christ's death was for all regardless of whether they were Jew or Gentile.
The Old Testament laws were for the Jews to stay in favor with God. The entire concept of Christ dying on the cross is so that humanity gains salvation and favor with God is because it was supposed to be a simple method for all of mankind to follow. It wasn't 'accept my Son's sacrifice in your place, oh and also stick to all of those crazy conflicting laws I handed down thousands of years ago'.
>>717496962 >You won't see christians stoning people because they left Christianity. Actually this (and ironically, beheading) is still a fairly common occurrence in ass-backwards (portions of Africa & South-East Asia) parts of the world.
Don't forget we've also had Christians murdering staff at abortion clinics in the US & Europe. As well as a Christian terrorist group attempting to install a theocracy in Uganda.
>>717497821 >Go ahead, tell me where in current society any of the harsher teachings of the book still apply. I'm not supporting OT law, I think the OT is absurd superstition and the NT is a brilliant forgery by Flavius Josephus.
I'm just pointing out that people who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus ignore the fact that the Gospels say that Jesus himself said you can't disregard the Old Testament.
>>717498061 >what I infer from Paul is more important than what Jesus actually plainly stated in direct response to a precise question For your sake, I hope I'm right. Because if your Bible is true, you're going to burn.
>>717498061 While correct that these laws are no longer required for salvation, the fact that these were the expected laws for the culture god decided to personally mold into his chosen people shows he prefers this form of society over the others which he advised they not mix with.
>>717498559 This is what i say to all the libtard "christians" deluding themselves into believing they have been accecpted into god's fold. I compare it to the prophecy regarding a people having a form of religion, but one lacking the true power of god. This explains why there are very few with a true connection to the holy spirit today, because they are unwilling to actually study the word and apply it in their lives.
1. Paul was directly chosen by God to replace Judas, and was the greatest apostle of the 12. Pretty sure what he has to say is still valid.
2. If you're referring to Matthew 5:18, it's still up for debate as to exactly WHEN Christ was referring to, re: 'Until all things are accomplished'. So parroting that one specific verse, out of all of the things Christ said, doesn't back you up at all.
>>717498596 I do, it's just that there are generally more christians browsing here, and if you look at the wording of the original post it referenced other religions, not my fault it became a christian board.
>>717498549 That's not true. We invented Scientology just a decade or two ago. And Mormonism is only a few hundred years old. Also there is apparently a Jedi Church that's sprouted up temples in several different places. This one is special, I think. While everyone knows that Scientology was created by a science fiction writer, it still pretends to legitimately stand on the foundation of other irl religions. The Jedi Church, however, goes forward fully aware and totally heedless of the fact that they know with absolute certainty that it's fictional. It's a religion that you don't actually have to believe in to be a part of, and that's a pretty revolutionary stance as religions go.
>>717496388 But if the Bible is the word of God, how can any Christian justify not following it's teachings? Wouldn't their God reject their sense of superior morality as blasphemy and deny them entry to paradise upon death? Who is man to deny the morals of God?
'Until all things are accomplished" is also the subject of controversy. It is uncertain whatallis referring to and how it will be accomplished. France lists three interpretations: until the end of the world, until all the requirements of the Law are met, until the arrival of the messiah. The three interpretations all implyvery different understandings of how absolute Mosaic law is for Christians in the current era'
>>717499156 This is called "rationalization". You are literally placing the word of a man over the word of the man you believe to be god himself because you don't want to choose between following 100% of Jesus's teachings (which include stating that the old laws still apply, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." and so forth) and admitting that the vast majority of the bible is absurd.
>>717498833 >still quoting a centuries old book as if it's still the current teachings Well until Jesus shows up again with some new info, it's all we've got. Unless you're one of those Mormons...
Anything else is literally nothing more than putting the desires of man above the law layed down by God himself (in the form of Jesus). You are a blasphemer. Your assertion that the Bible is no longer the Law is heresy.
The real answer is that the bible itself is unclear on the OT laws. Look here: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/otlaw.html to see scripture quoted that both states the OT and is not still valid.
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