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HEMP it will save the world

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HEMP it will save the world
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>>717429389
>[citation needed]
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>>717429428
Look it up your self you wank
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>>717429353
I think weed should be legal but when potheads and Joe rogan act like weed and drugs will solve our problems they come off like idiots
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>>717429564
food?
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>>717429542
you made the claim, you provide the evidence
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>>717429951
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>>717429837
true, its far from the perfect plant
but its better than most people think
if it was legalised for everything except recreational drug use, theyd still be campaigning for it, but theyd have no backing except for
"MUH BODY MUH RIGHT"
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>>717430040
Go find it your self its no hard just google Hempcrete
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>>717429353
Fuck off junkie degenerate hippy liberal
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>>717430095
hmm, id have to see it to blieve it
its just ive seen the rest
clothing, fibre based building materials, bio-oil, degradable plastics, paper, and medical use
and i know how all those work

but first time ive ever heard it even mentioned for food, ever
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>>717429353
That must be why the rest of the world lives in hempcrete homes then...

...oh wait.
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>>717430196
ive got better things to do
your job to convince me
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>>717430393
>on 4chan
>got better things to do

No you're just autistic and fat.
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>>717430472
>better things to do then research some other drug addicts claim for legalising weed

like anything ever
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>>717430281
Dumb American ha ha ha
I have no label
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>>717430537
You're just proving my point, you're a lazy fuck it takes like 10 minutes. It's not like your life is going anywhere anyway.
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>>717430325
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>>717429353
but hemp isn't illegal
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>>717430332
It is being suppressed world wide because of oil
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>>717429353
Dude weed
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>>717430393

Go convince yourself
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>>717430580
I just gave you a fitting one.
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>>717430537
Cannabis in not a drug
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>>717430196

>breathable
>incredible insulation

you may pick one.
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>>717429353
Wow, stoners are fucking dumb.
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>>717430672
Go ahead and grow it then
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>>717429779
>digestable fiber
>fiber
>digestable
think again, youre source seems fishy
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>>717430950
Why is that ?
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>>717429353
Ok fair enough hempcrete homes is one thing but how would you deal with the rise in arson?
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>>717431030
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>>717429353
>ban hemp in 1937

What do you expect when your government is totally addicted to takung bribes from 'lobby' groups and literally cant make an unbiased decision that is best for the people becuase of some special interest group.

Democracy is the USA is a mockery
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>>717431106
>hempcrete
Hempcrete is fire proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDzlGBAc658
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>>717431214
TRUTH
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>>717431083
Their miracle plant that they claim can do anything but in reality does nothing but get you high and stupid.
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>>717429353
No it won't because William Randolf Hearst paid the politicians to make marijuana/hemp a top tier bad drug because he owned a large interest in trees for making paper and he knew the truth of op's meme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5rp5ydc4UM
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>pretending that pot activists actually want to build houses out of pot
>pretending that their REAL motive isn't to smoke it
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>>717431701
You do know what hemp is... and how it differs to cannabis, right?
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>>717431701
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Hemp doesn't get you high... Does not contain THC
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>>717431904
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>>717432367
Right. Hemp contains negligible amounts of either. What is your point?
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>>717432498
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>>717429564
Cars cant run on hemp im with you on the legalization but come on stones we have got to do better
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>>717429353
Help makes good rope, but is is shitty for clothes, and makes shitty paper.
Hemp seed oil is OK for nutrition, but shitty as a bio fuel.
Hemp fibers can be used as a filler for mud-bricks, but is shitty compared to pine for structural members.
90% of the "facts" about the medical benefits of hemp at just new-age bullshit.
Industrial hemp production around the works is legal, but it is not used more because it is not as good as the alternatives.

If it wasn't for stoners, no-one would give a shit about Hemp.
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>>717432498
Actually there is a industrial hemp strand that produces CBD and hardly no THC.
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phoenixtears.ca
watch the documentary "run from the cure" by Rick Simpson. Canadian now living in amsterdam.
tells you the difference between thc and cbd
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>>717430897
I'm all for legalization and the complete utilization of all hemp products, but people NEED to stop fucking saying this. Yes, weed very well is a drug. It may not leave you looking like a crack whore and sucking dick for a dimebag, but it is a drug. It chemically alters the way your mind and body work. That's the exact definition of a drug.

By spouting "WEED ISN'T A DRUG MAAAN #420BLAZEIT LOLOLLLL :-)" all you're doing is hindering the cause of legalization. Everybody on both sides of the issue knows it's a drug. Everybody on both sides of the issue knows that part of the reason people want it legalized is so they can get high. If we just openly admit these things then we can start having a much more productive discourse of the issue.
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>>717432748
It's crazy how you're both incredibly incorrect but also super condescending about it
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>>717429428
Fuck off cunt
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>>717431332
Hemp does not get you high, marijuana gets you high. Welcome to the big world of shitposting little buddy hope you enjoy spreading your _incredibly_ informative messages.
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Got any hot naked chicks with MJ sprinkled on them
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>>717432979
This. We all accept that caffiene is a drug and still use it without a lot of regulations or worry, we can all accept cannabis being one.

Seriously, the only thing unpleasant about weed (aside from the smell) is the campaigners who won't shut the fuck up even when you agree with them.
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>>717429353
I just fucking love people who pretend that their interest in legalization has nothing to do with wanting to smoke weed.

Just fucking own it, goddamnit I am sick of this shit. Just be fucking honest with what you want.
You want to be able to smoke weed without worrying about cops? Fair enough, but just fucking say that. It's funny to hear the responses when you say: "Fine, lets let more people grow hemp, but make the THC content insignificant in the plants" and watching them go "N-n-no wait"


You don't give a fuck about some fucking farmer in Oregon.
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>>717433301
This
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>>717432979
I'm not any of the previous posters. I'll get high no matter if it is legal or illegal ,as already do 100% of stoners. So looking for legalisation is not only based on our interest of getting high, because we already do it, do you get it?
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>>717432979
Weed is NOT A Drug its a herb its a plant
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>>717432000
>"Dad, why cannibis is illegal?"
"Who the fuck taught you how to speak English, son? You're high right now, aren't you?"
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>>717433039
>incredibly incorrect
Let me know if you find a major manufacturer / produces that says:
Hemp is cheaper / better than cotton / polyester for clothes.
Hemp creates cheaper and better quality paper than wood pulp.
Hemp seed oil is a cheaper bio fuel than Palm / Soybean / Sugar etc.

IF you can, the I will admit it is good for something besides making rope. But, I suspect that most of the positive claims about Hemp are just lies by dirty hippies.
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>>717433467
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I called the cops on a loud party new years eve. Half a dozen idiot teenagers got busted with felony amounts of weed and were all crying and pathetic. Fucking justice boner right there.
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>>717433554
Yes, I get it, and you're wrong. Most stoners want it legalized so it's easier for them to get high and so they don't have to worry about legal ramifications. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. However, there IS something wrong with muddying the waters and claiming that recreational use is not part of the motivation behind legalization. Everybody on both sides of the issue knows that this is a ploy to make legalization more appealing to the more uninformed members of the public, and all it does is make the legalization movement look dishonest.

>>717433601
You're probably trolling but I'll bite. You're a fucking moron.

drug
drəɡ
noun: drug; plural noun: drugs

1.
a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
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>>717429353
William Randolph Hurst was heavily invested in timber.
Hemp threatened to replace timber.
William Randolph Hurst used his position as a member of Congress to make hemp, and marijuana, illegal.
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>>717433774
So you want me to find evidence provided by a major corporation that this resource could easily be their downfall? Are you seriously not understanding the whole war on hemp thing yet or?
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/apanapsson/wishlist/

Send me Doom before Steam sale ends, thanks.
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>>717429428
>citation needed
Here you go anon, drive safe.
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>>717433951
Here in my country (Spain) everyone is obvious about that. No one claims to wanting its legalisation to fuel their cars, obviously. We are all very clear that we want it for recreational use. The legalization movement is always going to look bad, because drugs are badly viewed by a sector of the society.

In fact, what's your point on drugs? And on weed? Do you smoke?
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>>717429353
You hemp nugget junkies are truly pathetic. Enjoy your shorter lifespan and wild bouts of rage.
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>>717434086
Industrial hemp is legal around the world.
If hemp was any good, major corporations would be using it, and push to have it made legal.
It is just good at a few things, and at best average at others.
Anyone saying that, for example, hemp is significantly better than palm for bio fuel is deluding themselves.
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>>717432748
Hemp suffers from a lot of the same issues as linen does. It's great after a long time but it's nowhere near as comfortable as cotton. Cotton is insanely resource heavy (look at the US south post Civil War when the cotton plantations had wrecked the soil.) Hemp may be more durable but I'm not going to buy a pair of Hemp jeans any time soon.
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>>717434297
I don't smoke weed, but I have in the past. I stopped because I didn't enjoy it anymore. It basically just made me feel nervous and shitty and I didn't enjoy it anymore.

I strongly believe that all recreational substances should be legalized and regulated just like alcohol. This would create a free environment for scientists to more closely and definitively study the effects of each drug on the human body and mind. This would, in turn, allow us to create more accurate and realistic guidelines for the safest possible use of each substance. The focus would be on informing the public and dissuading them from the more objectively harmful drugs, rather than "IF YOU DO ANY DRUG OTHER THAN ALCOHOL YOU WILL GO TO JAIL" scare tactics.
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>living in a wooden home
>wanting to devalue the livelihood of lumberjacks
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>>717429353
it's legal in a shitton of place. ( all across europe for example) and it's legal in Canada since 1998 and in the USA since 2014.

None of these application is really popular
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yeah I know about hemp and it's fibers. I want to get into hemp farming tbh. If it grows just like weed, I can just toss a couple of regulated hemp seeds, water it and enjoy the rest of my time doing whatever projects I may have around the farm. What do you think? I just need to know of any government programs where they will help new farmers although I heard it would be difficult for hemp as it is considered illegal and the government will not loan to such a thing.
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>>717435755
>I heard it would be difficult for hemp as it is considered illegal and the government will not loan to such a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#United_States

it's legal
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>>717435468
That's because it is in the beginning phase. Just like saying solar panel is not popular but it's because it's expensive and new.
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>>717429542
>>717430196
that's not how it works
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>>717435857
it was never illegal in these country. It's not "the beginning phase". I live in France, we are the number 1 producer worldwide, and no one care about hemp.
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>>717430753
how can hemp produce maple syrup?
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>>717435828
Yes it may be legal in the states but is it legal federally? I guess you could get a loan from a local credit union for funding. Also the stigma with hemp being used for psychoactive purposes may be hard to convey. What kind of products do you think will win America over with hemp?
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>>717436113
>get hemp seeds
>get maple syrup
>add hemp seeds into maple syrup
>let age
Now you have maple syrup
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>>717436124
none, because hemp is nowhere as useful as these pothead wants you to believe. again it has been legal in a shitton of place for decades and nothing happened.
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>>717436113
also how does hemp produce lumber?
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>>717436252
Just for using the term "pothead", you invalidate your point and show your bias. Bravo faggot!
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>>717436287
in strength
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>>717436431
what about fruits?
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>>717436408
by overreacting to "pothead" you've invalidated your point and shown your bias. Bravo you butthurt stonerfag.
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>>717436252
>It can be refined into a variety of commercial items including paper, textiles, clothing, biodegradable plastics, paint, insulation, biofuel, food, and animal feed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

Here you go, you ignorant bastard
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>>717433467
You don't give some fucking fuck about some factory work who makes ur burger. Who gives a fuck what they throw in their.
>your concept
>hurr durr
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>>717436113
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>>717436287
Hump can be broken down and turned into a type of compost that can harden to a tensile strength similar to concrete, as seen here >>717429389 and it can also be ground up and made into paper, it's extracts can be turned into a substance akin to petrol and then refined into fuel or plastics, and it's fibers can be turned into cloth for clothing. On top of that, it's cousin, marijuana, has been shown in numerous studies to assist in combating numerous diseases and ailments (some of which respond better to THC and others to CBD). Both plants, if legalized, would be a massive boon and could, in time, eliminate much (if not most) of our dependence on hard-on-soil fertilizers (for things like cotton) and oil.
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>>717436580
then why the production of hemp today isn't used to do all these things ?
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>>717436772
It's a conspiracy to keep me from getting high.
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>>717436722
>Both plants, if legalized, would be a massive boon and could, in time, eliminate much (if not most) of our dependence on hard-on-soil fertilizers (for things like cotton) and oil.

It has been legal all across Europe for decades, where is this massive boon ?
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>>717436626
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>>717436722
That's why they don't want it to be legal. independence. I can see the hemp is much like bamboo and will probably fall in the same in regards to price. Not sure if it'll be worth farming hemp.
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. Fully cured hempcrete blocks float in a bucket of water. It is not used as a structural element, only as insulating infill between the frame members though it does tend to reduce racking. All loads are carried by internal framing.
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>>717436923
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>>717436950
It is legal.
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>>717436772
Because of just how versatile it is, as well as a fear mongering that marijuana cigarettes would do things like make you a murderer, drive you insane and make a black man look twice at a white woman.
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>>717436722
hemp can't do many of the things that trees and petroleum can do.
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>>717437062
Hemp is legally cultivated. It's regulated and you can't get high from what's cultivated.

There is no fear mongering about it where i live ( France) and we are the number 1 producer worldwide ( 70% of the world hemp production comes from France). Yet we still use concrete, trees, oil, etc...
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>>717436843
From the US, I meant. The US is the largest consumer nation in the world and if it started allowing and promoting hemp use en masse in the US, the world would follow. And even in Europe they are seeing a lot of hemp use via clothing, bioplastic for their cars, building material and more. I'll try to find the source later but one Euro politician cited hemp manufacturing as one of the top 5 reasons Europe is the only country GAINING forest coverage while the rest of the world continues to depletes their forests.
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>>717437062
see
>>717436832
kek
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>>717437108
Exactly why it should be legal. It just doesn't produce enough co2 emissions.
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It's pretty funny watching people defend less efficient production methods because they're buttmad about stoners

Like what are your values anyway? Are you just anti-fun at any cost??
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>>717429353
>HEMP it will save the world
lol

Hemp is a useful resource. Humans are fucking retarded. 1 - 1 = 0.

I think teaching people to critically think and apply it to their lives will "save the world".
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>>717437324
who cares if its illegal, are you a hemp farmer or something?

black currants are also illegal and i dont see you crying about that.
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Hemp and cannabis are two completely different things.
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>>717437510
ayyy we have a wizard over here. he can tell the future guyz, ask him anything.
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>>717431701
Hemp and pot are essentially the same thing but we use those two words to differentiate between the cannabis plants with low levels of thc (hemp) and the ones with high levels of thc (pot). Hemp could surely be smoked but it won't intoxicate you, besides there are way more and better ways to use hemp. I suggest you read about hemp. Have a nice day anon
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>>717437276
You claimed that hemp could replace oil or concrete or trees.

I live in a country where we produce no oil, and produce a lot of hemp. Still we import a lot of oil and use hemp for not very important things ( papers for cigarettes, thermal isolation, etc..). Explain me why ?
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>>717437582
They are related though, like ash and willow trees.
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>>717437692
they claim that hemp can do all the things that these other resources can do, but what they fail to understand is that those other resources can do it better.
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>>717437685
I don't get why people think they can smoke hemp lol. Do some further research if that's the only thing that is holding you back. As a hemp farmer, one's job is to regularly check for the thc content in your hemp crop and to ensure it does not go over the regulated amount.
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>>717429353

there's a little more wood in a 15 year old tree than a 3 month old plant

you can actually build a functioning house from a couple of 15 year old trees

i'd like to see you do that with some little plants
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>>717429353
>Concrete-like blocks made with hemp and lime have been used as an insulating material for construction. Such blocks are not strong enough to be used for structural elements; they must be supported by a brick, wood, or steel frame

Not really
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>>717437761
This. Hemp contains extremely low levels of thc and are useless for smoking (unless it tastes like weed, which I've always wondered)
>>717437925
I guess some dumbasses get to know that weed and hemp are related so they try it
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>>717434223

I actually owned a citation (yeah, I'm old) It had a V6 and was fast as fuck. I even beat a fag with a 350 Rocket V8 engine. The problem was it broke down all the time.
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>>717429419
>feed

>eating weed all day
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>>717437966
Hemp builds better structure and insulation. You can also grow more than one plant
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>>717437692
You live in France don't you? I literally just read those things in the wiki. That said, France only produces about 8000 hectares of hemp per year, compared to the 1.48 million hectares of wheat they produce. Bit of a discrepancy in numbers.

Basically, grow more hemp, educate people, the government and industries of its uses and its uses will grow.
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>>717433601

you are fucking stupid.
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And if they only used two hemp plants, this would be a good argument
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>>717437966
Fun fact:
You need four times more land with hemp than you do with trees to get the same amount of paper from it. Trees need to grow for years, hemp needs to grow for months
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>>717437643
Magic isn't real. We are not (and may never be) advanced enough to predict the future accurately. You may ama.
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>>717438119
That's not marijuana, that's hemp. Very similar but two different plants, anon.
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>>717437966
no shit, maybe because it took 15 fucking years.

>i'd like to see you do that with some little plants

pic related, its a house made of hemp
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>>717438214
you are fucking stupid. You are not a human being since you're missing some chromosomes. The socially accepted term for you is retard. your species will be called retard.
>your concept

>hurrr durr
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>>717438289
It's a trade off, you get less per acreage but you can grow it much, much faster.
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>>717438300
You seem smart. What's the point of living?
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>>717438193
>France only produces about 8000 hectares of hemp per year, compared to the 1.48 million hectares of wheat they produce. Bit of a discrepancy in numbers.
>Basically, grow more hemp

yeah, millions of people actually eat and consume wheat on a daily basis. there's no discrepancy, pleb.
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>>717433601
I guess that opiates aren't drugs either. They're naturally occurring chemicals that you can extract from a plant
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>>717438415
>You seem smart.
Cringe, shit-tier bait

>What's the point of living?
To live.
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>>717438651
Not even baiting
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>>717438578
Granted, but you can also eat hemp seeds as seen here >>717429779

Again, the more it's grown, the more people will learn about it, the more it will also be consumed.
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>>717438896
You can take a horse to water but you cant force it to drink. Those who don't believe hemp will be the next big thing are those who are too afraid of change. GG and goodnight faggots!
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>>717430281
lol retard
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>>717429353

>hemp is only good for insulation
>you can't construct a house with solely 'hempcrete' because it simply isn't strong enough
>there are better materials for insulation, which is why it isn't used other than by hippies trying to make a point
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>>717438703
lol alright...

Well you shape the answer depending what question you ask.

>What's the objective meaning to life?
There is no objective meaning. Meaning is a man-made concept.

>What's the subjective meaning to life?
Whatever you want.

>What is purpose of life?
To live and reproduce.

...

In a way everything in a conversation is bait.

...

Pic related, it's me <3
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>>717431030
Big Oil shill detected.
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>>717439265
compromise for a greener earth virus
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>>717430171
>"MUH BODY MUH RIGHT"

How is that not legitimate? Beer was accessible to any age during Prohibition because making something illegal REMOVES ability to regulate that market while funding black markets.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-drugs-idUSKBN14I1S7
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>>717436113
Where does it say "maple syrup" in the image macro? Fucking retard.
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http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/02/25/henry-ford-hemp-plastic-car-stronger/
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>>717437522
Black currant hasn't been illegal for like 14 years.
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>>717439290
Okay well I got a real question for you. I was conceived while my mom was on the pill and dad didn't cum in her (I know he's my dad because he took a DNA test). Would you consider my birth a miracle or a huge fuck up?
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>>717430196

So it's a lie then? Fucking faggot liar.
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>>717429353
I don't have time to point out everyone talking about farming this shit but I'll tell you if you're running 90day cycles of hemp. Your soil will be so fucked in no time you couldn't grow a dandelion because you've taken so much of the nutrients out of the exchangeable pools.

I'm not saying its a bad idea but it seems like most of the arguments for this sort of stuff is basically a facade for hippies and stoners who just want to get high and wouldn't care more than a day after its legal.
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>>717429428
I like how somehow *you're* the asshole for pointing out the burden of proof. lol
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>>717439520
you bite the bait faggot
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>>717440029
fucking retard
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>>717439799
Think about it though. Why would you waste good soil to a weed? I would literally grow this shit in the worse and cheapest place I can find. Leave the the black soil to the vegetable and fruits who actually need the nutrients.
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>>717440157
>>717440157
>>717440157
y u mad tho
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Hemp milk is available at a lot of health food stores.

Good coffee shops make lattes and cappuccinos with it. It's really good.

I'd say that classifies it as a food.

However, acting like one plant will save humanity but big bad government won't let you is fucking retarded.
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>>717439750
You think the meaning/purpose of life isn't a "real" question? wtf? lol seems pretty fucking real to the rest of the species.

Look man I'm going to answer your question then, I'm going to go for a cycle and forget you ever existed.

You're asking me a subjective question.
>what's your fav color

If by "fuck up" you mean a mistake then obviously not. You're a product of cause and effect, there are no mistakes because nature does not try.

It depends what definition of "miracle" you mean but you fit at least one of the definitions.

...

I'll get your response but I won't be able to reply

...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/
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>>717439750

Semen is present in pre-cum, and the pill is not always effective. It's not that miraculous
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>>717437510
yeah good 1
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>>717440169
Yeah but if you grow on poor sites, your rotations will be much longer and since when you harvest you take the whole plant, you wont have many nutrients left afterwards. I mean maybe slow rotations on entisols (new/unweathered soils) it might work. Weathering would then be the limiting factor for more mineral nutrients. These sites are usually rare or in the north as glacial sediment which would have a shorter growing season
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>>717437692
Its all about the oil
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>>717429353
Hempcrete isn't structural. The houses need to be framed in wood. I got that info from Hempcrete's website.
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>>717439750
your mom was a whore
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>>717429353
Hemp, Takes fertile mand you could grow food on and ton of nutrients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXG9cM5QxgU
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hey guys chill out

hemp can do all these things

build houses, make food, cure cancer, make you attractive, fuel the 1 billion+ cars in the world, run a 747, etc.

All we need to do is devote every piece of available land and half the labor force in the world to farming he,p and we can totally do it. Let's save the world guys.
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>>717429428
Look into pycrete. If water and sawdust is a better concrete than concrete, then there's no reason hempcrete wouldn't at least perform equally as well with a fraction of the price and energy cost
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>>717431030
This guy gets it
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>>717440999

BS, 95% of "marijuana" seizures are forest rangers and DEA pulling up hemp ditch weed and burning it, prior to the 2nd Bush term they used to separate the seizures into two columns, they don't now because. It's a freaking WEED, it takes very little to grow. If you want to grow high grade marijuana its resource intensive, but only old drug warrior morons think that is the same thing as cheap hemp weed.
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>>717441077

Our non-slave owning founding fathers, and by law, all farmers, grew hemp in huge amounts prior to farm machinery and modern farming methods. I call your absolute bullshit.
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>>717440490
this.
any intelligent being knows that if an anon can use today's technology to make hemp a viable ressource as a fuel that's more efficient than oil will have to fight the oil industry which is a globalized fuckin nightmare, that also runs the jobs of thousands of people.
history shows it's a fucking mess and it takes decades for a society to change the productions they rely on.
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>>717429542
>>717430196

Look up burden of proof. God damn kids
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>>717429779
>potassium
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>>717430281
Conservative with nationalist and traditionalist tendencied here, I support legalization.
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All these infographs and none of them even post proper scientific articles proving their claims. Has anyone of these underages ever heard of the "burden of proof"?
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>>717441994
Yes. The burden of proof requires that you prove everything you say to any random fucker on the internet to the standard that they require.
Clearly. Don't you know anything?
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>>717442056
mods ban this fucking bot
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>>717432748
Are you retarded?
>bad for clothes
You probably think all hemp is scratchy like hemp twine, it's not.
>shitty fuel
Actually you can dump it in a deisel engine without alteration or refinement. Plus the fuel is a byproduct of separating fiber, cannibanoids, and oils so you can't claim it's not economically pheasible (even if it stores less than 12% of solar energy received as hemp oil)
>shitty compared to pine
Nah, longer fibers, shorter growth period, secondary and tertiary products, superior energy to mass conversion. I honestly don't know how you thought pine could compete
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>>717442305
Well how are we supposed to take things seriously if there isn't evidence? If someone is SO willing to push their shit, they should at least give us the fucking proof that it works, otherwise we'll just take it as bullshit.
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>>717432979

You're right, though I can understand why people say it.

We have this umbrella term of 'drug' that carries with it a charged stigma.

Yes, caffeine is a drug. Yes, nicotine is too.

And yes, the wonderful cannabis plant (well, THC and CBD) is a drug.

The problem is that when we call it for what it is, people have a bias toward the word as a knee-jerk reaction. You say that "cannabis is a drug" and people think of heroin, crack, etc.

Oddly, though, when we talk about the drugs Rxd to people, we call them a prescription or medication. We don't call those drugs, for this very reason.

People are funny about that word. Not all drugs are bad, but we certainly act like they are.

Cannabis is a drug, a very helpful, wonderful, non-addictive (before you argue, no, it is not. A PERSON has bad habits and can form them around anything) drug that helps people.

Okay, now my final two cents is that the illegality of cannabis is a crime against nature and humanity. It is an undeniable fact that cannabis alters a person's perspectives, makes them more conscientious about how they act, and calms them down. It does the opposite of what the highly toxic, addictive, terrible drug alcohol does, which remains perfectly legal.

It's not a war on drugs. It's a war on personal freedom and higher consciousness, being waged on its own citizens.

I have a medical marijuana card, though the notion is utterly ridiculous that I need permission to imbibe nature.

I am going to say what I do because I am trying to lend myself to "the cause" without people attaching that "all stoners are losers" witch hunt stigma.

I am an adjunct professor of psychology, and a clinical social worker (PsyD, MSW). I work harder than most of colleagues and cannabis has done nothing but enhance my life. I meditate and reflect on how I treated others, reacted to stress, and what I could have done better. It helps me be a better person, period.
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>>717429353
get a job stoner and get off your moms computer.
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>>717442878
>derp
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>>717429353
>>717429389
>>717429419
>>717429447
>>717429564
>>717429779
>>717430196
>>717430453
>>717430668
>>717430753
>>717431137
>>717431721
>>717432000
You smelly hippies must have smoked some bad granola. Please see >>717432748.
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>>717442504
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Need to legalize Milo's booty
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>>717429353
Hemp does make some good rope
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>>717442950
That's what google is for
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In practical terms, burden of proof always lands on those who care the most about convincing the others.
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>>717442762
this guy speaks the truth

>pic unrelated
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>>717443112
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>>717430196

>mud and water and hay bricks

Also non-Toxic
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>>717441251
did you even look into the properties of pykrete? It has to be in a frozen state or its as brittle as soggy newspaper....
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Material scientist here, most of the purported solutions are inefficient especially such as the one claiming that hemp is even close to being a good enough replacement for petroleum (whale oil would be better than hemp), and some are outright plain lies.


Bio-composites are what we are dealing here when we talk about materials, hemp alone (no it is not a bio-composite in this stage) to put in 4chan terms is shit tier. The tensile strength is so low that there is no industrial usage of it on a massive scale. Current a lot of industry requires petroleum-based bio-composites since hemp actually does not provide the properties wanted which is non-biodegradability among the main point.

Yes hemp can be used to lesser things, such as plastic bottles, but the usefully need of the material requires more than two or three materials to make it rugged enough for consumer use, and the energy used to provided the hemp-based bio-composites is more than what the result is worth. Soy-based bio-composites which a lot of people call plastic in these days is actually being used instead of plastic, it is cheaper and easier to recycle than hemp and regular plastic.

Also about the 90 days to grow versus 15+ years to grow, trees are worth more since they remove more total CO2 from the atmosphere. So if were are looking from a ecology sustainability viewpoint replacing forests with hemp would plainly be bad.

Hemp is not bad, hemp is not great either though, get the facts.
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>>717443463
I'm sorry, but I can't fix stupid. I get the "burden of proof" meme, but your problem is that you gave up critical thought years ago. Only way to fix it is to exercise critical thought regularly. Why don't you start by looking into some of the topics listed in this thread?
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>>717443641
>brittle
>soggy newspaper
You're fucking retarded.
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>>717443735
>material scientist
>doesn't understand the carbon cycle

Nice try there, but you'll have to earn your degree before you can stop flipping burgers
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>>717443749
Why don't you start substantiating your claim with evidence? If you can't even bother showing sources, how do we know you even researched this at all?
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>>717439806
No, he's an asshole for requesting sources when google exists
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>>717444163
No, he's not an asshole for acknowledging that without sources, people who make claims like these look like shitheads who pull their "facts" out of their ass.
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>>717443921
>carbon cycle
Topkek, you forget about the global carbon budget. Intake versus outtake to put in layman terms. The amount of carbon taking in between hemp and a tree matters. Especially concerning global warming; however, I am guessing you do not think global warming warming is a thing.
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>>717443930
By researching it yourself. Do you blindly accept the "facts" that pop up on your facebook?

If you're not mentally competent enough to fact check your opponent then you have no place in adult discussion
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>>717430325
Vegan body builders use hempseed protein powders

https://store.nutiva.com/hemp-protein/
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>>717444275
If you don't show that you haven't fact-checked yourself, then how do we take you seriously? Oh, wait, WE DONT.
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>>717431030
soluble vs insoluble you magnificent cunt.
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>>717444256
>plant biomass stores less than 1% of worlds carbon
>less biomass on land than floating in ocean
>nevermind carbon stores dissolved in ocean or on its floor
>still asserts land-based biomass is a valuable carbon store

Nice try, but a college education has more stringent requirements then that
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>>717444275
If you want to push a idea though, you substantiate it with evidence. Basic academic policy. One does not go to do their PhD by simply claiming X, then walking out of the door while saying, "fact check it yourself." There is a defense stage where people ask you for evidences or try to break apart your claims, if you strongly feel you are right, you defend against the claims or you concede because you find out you are wrong.
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>>717439292
Fiber is supposed to be indigestible, that's the whole point.
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>>717444275
this >>717444705
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>>717444705
>trying to get your PhD on 4chan

Good luck with that
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>>717440742
You already have to amend the soil and rotate crops now, what's the difference when adding a new crop to shittier soil?
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>>717444873
>making a claim without getting your own evidence

I can say that Bananas are made out of pure uranium. People can't ask me for evidence because they should "just look it up".
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Legalise hemp but not weed, fuck off degenerate.
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>>717444524
stop responding to this willfully ignorant weak attempt at a troll. there's incredible amounts of evidence. how about the burden of doubt falls on your shoulders, as you're debating whether or not a plant that has been studied for hundreds of years is useful and you can't even give one viable reason why its illegal.

>>717444678
>Nice try, but a college education has more stringent requirements then that
lol no they don't. every nignog and liberal arts student has a degree these days. their value has been completely undercut by the
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>>717440999
So do tree farms, what's your point? It can grow at higher altitudes and shorter grow seasons than traditional crops as well. It wouldn't bravado idea to replace some of the corn in our diets anyhow.
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>>717445115
They're claiming that hemp is an accumulator of some kind. Basically an accumulator pulls something out of the soil into the plant. Either it's a mineral/metal that you want to gather and refine, or a poison you want removed from the soil (sometimes both)

Never heard of pot as an accumulator though
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>>717445417
I'm not saying that it should be illegal, I'm saying that claims should not be supported with "just google it", faggot. If claims can be supported by that, then I declare that all bananas should be banned. Don't ask me for evidence for that, just google it.
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>>717434086
There is no company in the world that wants a cheaper and better resource to make their products. Nope not at all.
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>>717445120
I checked your fact, like an adult, and discovered that bananas are fruit and therefore not made of metal. I think we all learned something today
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>>717442305
Or, at a minimum provide a single reputable citation
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>>717429353

stronger than concrete. Will be cheaper if it becomes legal. Hemp will save the world.

Too bad GOP is against hemp for no logical reaosn.
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>>717444678
Are you bloody retarded? The percentage of carbon stored in biomass is beside the point, the carbon that is found in the ocean is part of the slow and highly stable geologic cycle. What we mostly care about is where humans are doing the damage which is not to the slow and stable geologic cycle, but the biological cycle that depends mostly on plants.

>still asserts land-based biomass is a valuable carbon store

Let us try a thought experiment, we deforest the whole world, get rid of the carbon storage. Say good by to clean air. We know for a fact that areas that are highly deforested has a higher pollution index.

As for a college education (which I have one by the way) does not mean someone is correct, right off the bat. If you want to argue via authority and not based on the evidences that back what I am saying, you are a sad little man.
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>>717435857
Nigger they have been using hemp for hundreds of years.
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>>717430948
pick two actually
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>>717445417
Any discipline of science (real degree) requires you know what you're talking about
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>>717429353
These dopers and potheads will come up with any excuse to get their weed made legal.
Pity them.
They have excluded themselves from society.
It was a good move.
The gene pool will benefit from their sacrifice.
Thank you, guys.
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>>717432748

Hemp oil is a fantastic fuel. I use veggie oil in my converted diesel because it's easier to find, but hemp oil is actually much better. Veggie oil is already better then normal diesel, the engine runs smoother on it. Hemp oil is far superior to diesel.
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>>717429353
hempcrete is not structurally sound. It's good for soundproofing, though.
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>>717445653
So you'd rather have other people make your argument for you?
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You think the cotton companys will let this happen haha fools. Cotton is masterrace
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>>717429389
Invalid argument

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/281jfv/is_hempcrete_actually_better_than_concrete/?client=ms-android-motorola
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm, number 92
https://www.boundless.com/writing/textbooks/boundless-writing-textbook/writing-an-effective-paper-235/incorporating-objections-and-opposing-views-241/the-importance-of-addressing-opposing-views-101-4514/, down to "Prove Your Point"

So there's my case for you guys needing to post your "evidence"
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>>717444669
Still not digested
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>>717445653
but bananas are both radioactive and contain metal
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>>717445479
Like beans? I don't think so, I've never heard that either.
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>>717445748
Lol your thought experiment is critically flawed
>If we take one battery out of our bank of hundreds it won't store electricity anymore!

The amount of carbon stored and the amount of participation in the carbon cycle are exactly the point. We could deforest the world, and from a carbon perspective we'd be fine. The actual damage to our ecology would be staggering, but your original point is that replacing industrial tree farms with hemp farms is a bad idea from a carbon perspective.

Aside from that you should know that the carbon stored in the ocean is resultant from the equalibrium between the sea and the air driven by temperature. The ocean is spewing out more carbon than china right now trying to reach that equalibrium.

Furthermore you should know that geologically stored carbon is distinct from ocean-biomass stored carbon, and both are different from ocean stored carbon
>>
Well, looked into hempcrete. Can not see the point. It can't bare structural loads so it's basically just an insulator, and maybe facade material. And it doesn't compare well to rockwool or fiberglass.

Maybe it's less energy intense to produce, but how much energy will be wasted in heating all those now less well insulated houses?
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>>717429353
You God damn yuppy dopers will find every and any way to make dope legal so you can spend all your welfare checks on a bag of drugs. You keep wanting more and more of your fix to get that ultimate high. You all deserve life in prison. Fuckin junkies
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>>717446486
>but how much energy will be wasted in heating all those now less well insulated houses?
none, because SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
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>>717432979
Also "weed doesn't contain chemicals like tobacco does"
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>>717446361
But the value of that radioactivity is far below pure uranium. It can't be made solely from uranium
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>>717445748
Is there more pollution due to a higher population density, or are you referring to a properly controlled study? I'm sure that plants make good air filters, I keep a ton of house plants just for this purpose.
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>>717446564
weed isn't made of chemicals, just dankonium element 420
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>>717442007
your point?
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>>717429353
Compressive strength: ~1 MPa

Fuck off with that weak shit.
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>>717444508
>vegan bodybuilder

doesn't get much gayer than that
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>>717446249
so are there any sources for the claims made in this thread or are we just gonna force the burden of proof on people who are not convinced?
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This thread consist of:

claims

but brings no:

proof


you fucking gaylords
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>>717429353
Hypothesis: Anything that was forbidden before the invention of a microscope is now full of wonderful applications.
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Industrial hemp is completely legal to grow in Scandinavia. They are also pretty serious about how they build their houses. They can't fuck around cuz very cold winters and very warm summers.
They don't bother with hemp much despite there being no legal or other obstacle to it. Basically it just doesn't cut it.
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HEMP IS AMAZING:
IT CAN:
>cure cancer
>build housings for pennies
>free the world from hunger
>liberate all opressed countries

but unfortunately it cannot stop OP from being a massive fucking faggot
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>>717446914
You imply these dopers have the capability and brain capacity to do research. There to busy listening to billy Joel and smoking there dope
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>>717447168
who the fuck is billy joel lol
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>>717447271
Piano man?
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>>717447271
>billy Joel
He didn't start the fire
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>>717446851
What do you expect from hippies.

>Bro, like hemp could like save mother gaia. It is better than oil and can solve world hunger.
>Really? That sounds cool, can you post some sources?
>Naaah man.

I am all for hemp production. Make an engineered version for mass production that contains no THC of any amount. See how fast they shut up about their hemp.
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>>717447271
this.
i only listen to good music while I smoke my dope.
like one direction and naruto's theme song.
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>>717447168

Readjust your bait for a millennial understanding. Remember, for these kids 9/11 is taught in history class.

Billy Joel for all they care might just be the pool guy.
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>>717446979
Getting high while weightless sounds nice, I'm just not sure it would be safe to do in a space station.
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>>717447460
I thought all you dopers only had led zepplin and judas priest in your record clections.
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>>717447460
i don't get the naruto hype.
it was the most generic shounen i have ever read
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>>717447846
Forgot I wasn't on /a/, should have said MLP theme song instead.
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Shut up OP you're spoiling my future business. Don't go telling everyone I'm getting everything in place.
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you do realize that it takes more water to grow it. In California they had people planting in national forests and had killed off some of the plants there.
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>>717429353
Eradicating the Muslims will save the world.
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>>717448109

Yeah but with global warming we've got rising sea levels so too much water man, use it to make hemp and save the world two ways
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>>717433369
This
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“Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, … and sow it everywhere!”
–George Washington
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>>717430948
You can actually have both asshole. Think of how an Under Armour works; breathable with great insulation.
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>>717429353
hemp?
save the world?
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>>717429951
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>>717434223
tnx buddy :)
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>>717443023
can you stop shitting up threads with the same photo of that gharish manly looking teen
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>>717444163
you are the asshole for thinking that everything on the internet is true and else you can simply google it without getting biased resources.
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>>717429542

Burden of proof, asshole!
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>>717429428
I have discovered a truly marvellous proof of this, which this post is too narrow to contain
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>>717443930
Because he/she is not obligated to cater the lazy desires of dumbasses like yourself
You should start a life you faggot and start to build some common sense and realize you need to research yourself because nobody respects you enough to give the time of day to provide evidence for your dumb ass
Fucking brainwashed trying troll
Whilst other anon is trying to enlighten you with knowledge you obviously are unaware of
How are you going to learn if i don't start substatiating your questions with thought.
Im not mad at you im mad at your parents and your indoctrination
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>>717452097
Fucking Fermat,
Can someone send this dude a 5 subject notebook
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>>717442942
But that guys is wrong. There is easily found proof of Hemps usefulness. Why would using it be bad works case scenario? Also it makes great paper for certain. Almost all bibles are printed on hemp for a reason.
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>>717442950
Okay you can choose not to but can you defend not using hemp? It can't be smoked for reference it would be like smoking an ear of corn
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