>>717249980 Be very cautious with online forums. They are filled with two bit wannabes. First step it to go get some literature on the subject. The Jorge Cervantes grow bible is a great starting point. The second most important thing is to stick to traditional growing methods and avoid things like LED lights if you are serious about producing weight.
>>717250417 Pick a nutrient line, it doesn't have to be expensive, and follow their feeding chart. It's not a guessing game, these companies have R&D departments to do the hard work for you. General hydroponics for dirt cheap mutes.
>>717250497 Protip: this is how you spot two bit wannabes. They love talking up LED when all serious growers use dual ended high pressure sodium lights.
>>717251105 No till is dirty hippy bullshit. Too much work for not enough gain. Just self congratulatory circle jerking. You want to grow a couple plants? Sure go do no till. Try doing it with 72 plants in 45 gallon pots. You might as well quit growing and start a soil composting business
>>717250366 Ok understandable. What strain are you growing for maximum yield? 600watts HPS? How much goes a k for? EU?
I used to grow with amnesia haze and power plant. Last time with amnesia I got 2300kg with 4x600hps. Used an secret jardin tent. Not hydro in 30 ltr pots. I gave them nutrients from DutchPro. Opinion? I had heat problems kinda though. 40C sometimes. I got lucky IMO
>>717251676 I'm not in Europe. Light wattage is flexible and your growing space and desired output will determine the best wattage for your needs
>>717251680 Sativas aren't typically grown indoors due to their long maturation time and the fact that no one pays extra for them to compensate that. In my market at least. Best bet is to get a indica/sativa blend (90% of strains). Best of both worlds.
>>717252032 Don't hide it. Sell it. Flouecents for seedlings and cuttings is fine. Look for t5 HO lights. Harvesting is a miXed bag. Relief that the crop is done and stressful that this will be the moment the feds kick your door in guns drawn to rob you. I don't smoke that much. Not enough time.
i got a 10 room house in the middle of fucking nowhere in an almost abandoned village in eastern europe that has electricity and not much else (my grandparents old house that they left behind cause its worthless when they moved to the city due to old age) that would be perfect for growing. I also got the finances to set up an operation. I just need a guy with the knowledge, experience and tech know-how, anybody interested?
>>717252918 I make enough. The life of a grower is admittedly lonely. Friends are hard to have because keeping things low-key is paramount. You feel a bit like batman with his dual life by night and day. I keep a regular day job to put an income on the tax books and I route a small amount of money through a consulting company I own to supplement that income on paper. I make sure my life style and bills are covered by my legitimate income. Grow money is stored by other means I won't go into. Let's just say it's somewhere the federal government won't be able to seize if the worst happens. No I don't drive a flashy car. The guys that want to be Tony Montana end up just like him within a couple years.
>>717253543 Smart guy, I've always had this Idea of making an small underground bunker in the middle of the woods and growing there and supplying power to the lights with batteries. dumb idea? I just want weed to smoke not really make money.
>>717253420 First you have to accept that hippy cures like spraying water with dawn dishsoap don't do shit. If you really want to take care of them get a product called avid. It's a systemic product that will protect the plant for about a month. Couple this with a direct kill method like spraying green cleaner (very effective right now) every couple of days for a week or two and you should see them clear up. The last opertunity to use avid safely is just befor you enter flower so make sure to apply it again when you're switching the light cycle. Keep an eye out for the rest of flower and treat with a direct kill if necessary.
>>717253913 No I'm just trying to beat a system that's rigged to keep you down and as poor as possible. We aren't these sinister people the media and movies would like to make us out to be. Many of us have wives, kids, families we coach little league and shit.
>>717250978 There is literally no reason to stick to HPS. In fact with LEDs you save money on either the lights and on electricity plus the yield or its quality does not decrease at all. You're just another closed minded faggot. Enjoy your wasted profit.
>>717254513 you're such a stupid fuck if you "Have no time" why are you on 4chan you stupid cunt go jerk off on your crops and sell to niggers because you obviously live in the same place as them white trash.
>>717254127 I wish you well. My Maine beef with LED lighting is that they promise the world and almost never deliver. Their main problem is that they devide what would otherwise be a singular powerful light source into many small light sources. Light, like gravity and electricity, abide by the inverse square principle. When you realize that this gives a singular light source a massive advantage it becomes clear why he largest grows in North America all use dual ended high pressure sodium lamps. They have millions to invest in whatever technology they want and could affor the most expensive LED lights on the market if they wanted to but they don't. HID lighting is still kind and will be for the foreseeable future.
Admittedly there is one company that makes an led that is showing promise called fluence. Their unit seems to be producing legit results but with a price tag of $1300-$1500 they simply aren't economical. Even with the energy saving the time it takes to get your money back from the higher initial unit cost doesn't make sense. The reason their unit sets itself apart is because they made the unit very large to help compensate for the effects of the inverse square relationship has on light intensity.
>>717254791 You should probably chill and smoke a joint.
>>717255673 Grow boxes are a waste of time and money. Their basically weed growing version of those items sold in the last pages of a popular science magazine. If you want to grow look into outfitting at least a 4'x4' growtent. Do it right and you should have no problem. Just know that although being able to provide a fully enclosed and locked room to keep it in you won't be able to have people over without them finding out.
Anyone that wants you to flower with a flourecent bulb is not your friend. I wouldn't even veg under the shifty little bulb they have in that box. At best I might use it for the first week when seedlings sprout or cuttings are taking root.
>>717254842 I'm not into buying a commercial led system. But, I think if you would need two spectrums. One for growth/youth and a red led on a separate control you could blend in when the "longer days" are needed.
>>717256276 Physics (you know, the laws that run the universe?) says you're wrong and so does every serious commercial grower. You cannot devide a singular light source into many small weak light sources and expect equal light output. Physics doesn't allow for it. Every thread this comes up and I have to explain why the laws of the univers say you're wrong. Sigh.
>>717256790 Who says I won't be one of the guys doing it legally? I'd pay whatever taxes the government wants if I can legitimately put my earnings on the books. Where do you think "legal" growers come from? Marijuana storks? We will simply transition out of the black market.
>>717256658 Interesting, because I currently manage 6,500 plants working as a grower for a medical company. Our product says your wrong, so maybe your grasp of physics isnt as strong as you think. Want some pictures of our product? I'll throw one in.
>>717257307 What experience does "big business" have in growing marijuana? Do people want to buy their marijuana from "big business"?
>>717257328 I'm not saying it's impossible to grow with LED. I'm saying that for what it doesn't provide the results it should for the money they cost. And my understanding of physics is just fine. I suggest you ask someone smarter than yourself about the effect that the inverse square relationship between light intensity and distance have on grow lights. I find it hard to believe that you could manage 6500 plants and not know the basics of light emission. But please go ahead and post the pictures you took when you fisted a commercial operation while pretending to be something you're not.
>>717257006 Civil asset forfeiture is all anyone is afraid of. I've seen 20-30 of my "colleagues" get rolled and non of them spent more than a weekend in jail and non of them have ever seen a courtroom. If the thriving bastards charge you then they have to account for everything they confiscated. They don't want that trust me. It's crooked as fuck.
>>717257824 I think if you put an array of leds on a matrix, about one matrix every two feet of plant you would get an even distribution of light on the leaves. LEDs bought individually are a few pennies, the power source for the arrays is not expensive. It actually much cheaper the HPS, (if you build it yourself)
On my second grow, doing okay, enjoying the hobby as of yet. This one is doing much better than the first.
So, question is this. I've got a 2x4 t5 lamp that I use for veg iside of a closet, I have a grow room that is 5x8, and I want to perputually grow 4 plants in flower at any given time.
I have an aeroponics cloner, and currently have 12 clones.
The question is this, I am only going to let 4 plants go all the way through the veg cycle and into the flower room. Should I just take the rest of the clones at whichever stage they are in at the time and put them in the flower room?
I've tried giving the clones away but everyone I know who smokes also grows, so they have no need for clones. And even though I am in a medical state I dont feel comfortable advertising on cl or budtrader
>>717257824 And I'm saying your fundamental understanding of specially developed phosphorus LED grow lights might not be up to snuff considering they are producing the same results as our high pressure sodium lights.
We did 2 grow systems, compared flower time, density, terpene profiles, trichrome development etc and they are producing the same product. I'm not going to give you the company's name that I work for so you can think whatever you want. I'm just letting you know that you're wrong. I wouldn't buy LED lights developed for home use as I would agree with you on those. However the ones we use are different than one you experienced or gained knowledge of. Physics is constantly progressing, as with the products based around it's laws. I have a minor in physics so again, get off your high horse.
>>717259149 >>>717258649 (You) >As long as they won't crowd your legit plants put them in there nah, theres more than enough space and I'd clip their tops before I let them block any light from the actual crop.
>>717259113 Indirectly or directly, I would say yes. Even if you don't choose to work for a grow company, there are analytical lab companies popping up everywhere with a sole purpose of testing product. You'd be right up their ally.
>>717259149 Don't remember the company that produced ours but I mentioned they weren't normal LEDs in my initial post so idk why you fought me so much. Our other lights are phantoms and gavitas.
Sativas just aren't meant for indoor growing. They are finicky, tall and most importantly, take too damn long to finish to make them worthwhile to grow. Yuo would be much better off finding a hybrid that has the flower time of an indica with the smoke of a sativa.
>>717259360 There is no need. My computer pulls as much electricity as a large grow light. No one is watching your electric bill. Do you think power companies are turning in their best customers?
>>717259483 Personally it's old school blueberry just for the unique flavor but money wise my favorite is whatever is hot and in demand at the moment. Right now it's any cookie cut, any gorilla cut and sunset sherbert.
>>717261602 There is no reason to be shopping at hardware stores for anything other than nuts and bolts. Plenty of local hydro stores and online suppliers to buy legitimate horticulture products from. No need to nigger rig things like it's the 80's.
>>717264327 That is true. It's going to take a lot more than people think to federally legalize. For the foreseeable future [he feds will leave it up to the states. They aren't technically violating international treaty and the feds still get to make hundreds of millions off civil asset forfeiture.
>>717256363 Pro tip -- if you let the room get to hot you can save it by increasing the amount of carbon dioxide. The plants will have no ill effect from heat. Many ways to get the co2 up but a neat trick is to water them with bottled sparkling mineral water. Fill your hydro tanks with it.
>>717255673 Depends on your housing situation. If you're in an apartment, shit is going to be a lot tougher and riskier. Even if you rent a house there's a risk, but obviously less. If you own your own house, you can get away with a small personal grow forever, as long as you follow the simple rule that NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS. If you want to bring friends over and show them the big buds you're growing, you should probably also pick out a lawyer. Do not let anyone outside of your spouse, etc know.
And fuck buying a premade box. You can easily build your own, or buy a grow tent.
>>717265843 if the filter and fan is set up right it will only reek when you take it out for harvest, that's when shit is going to fill the room and the rest of the apartment, you'd need a bigger fan and carbon filter just for the room, which would stick out like a sore thumb, but yeah, an apartment is not very ideal to say the least
>>717271739 all of those pistils are reaching out like the whore the plant is, begging for a male to cum all over it, but you're not gonna let that happen and they're going to coil back in like the withering rejected spinsters they are, where they fatten up like bitches with hagen daz
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