What are the chances of Donald Trump getting impeached in the near future?
>Democrats hate him. >Republican's in Congress and Senate hate him. >If he's out of the way a hardcore conservative in line with the party would take over. >He acts ridiculous and without care, making himself an easy target. >His approval ratings among his followers will drop massively in the near future since it's impossible for him to deliver all the bullshit he promised.
>>717198411 He knowingly lied to the American people and got caught. It was a similar scenario with nixon. He was never guilty of ordering the bugging of the Watergate hotel, but when he found out about it, he was caught trying to cover it up instead of admitting the truth.
If being an insufferable prick was illegal he would get the death penalty but it isn't. Tax loopholes are called that because you get out of it. Trump university was a scam but may have been one that would only incur heavy fines rather than criminal penalties.
Until legitimate charges are brought against him the point still stands.
I wonder what Putin's strategy is? Trump is a spoiled retard who may be easy to manipulate but he must be aware of the fact that there is probably a shitload of experts around in Washington that are not.
>>717200057 >What is the Trump DC Hotel and conflict of interest? There is an conflict of interest, but there's nothing more but circumstantials and speculations about what may or may not happen at this point.
Only if he's actually accused of enriching himself or his family, will there be anything to indict him for.
>>717200046 >he must be aware of the fact that there is probably a shitload of experts around in Washington that are not. He definitively is, which is why he is carefully treading the water now to not upset the hardline core of the GOP. If he had escalated and followed up on the expelling, it would have made it harder for Trump to undo what Obama did.
>>717200181 The lease specifically states that no elected official can be involved. >The Trump Organization’s lease with GSA includes similar language, stating that “no … elected official of the Government of the United States … shall be admitted to any share or part of this Lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom.”
A bunch of speculations and circumstantials aren't enough to have him impeached. He isn't even sworn in yet, ffs.
I'm not defending Trump in any way, he's a fucking retard and is most likely going to do something stupid that's going to get him impeached some time during next year or first half of 2018, but as for now there's nothing more than just a bunch of loose connections that are, to say, "unfortunate" and potentially suspicious.
Putin was a high ranking KGB officer and is the dictator of Russia for more than 15 years know. That guy obviously isn't naive. But I wonder if he actually believe he ca "run" Trump in front of the world?
>>717200580 >So we should do nothing now and wait until it's too late Actually, yes, because then he will get impeached.
>>717200481 >"Israel and Russia first!" These are actually mutually exclusive, as Israel is very anti-Iran, while Russia is extremely pro-Iran. Trump's impossible split, where he both tries to please the hardcore Israel supporters, and trying to be friends with Putin is definitively going to bite him in the ass sooner or later.
At some point the nuclear deal with Iran and the lifting of the sanctions against Iran is going to be up for discussion.
>>717200441 Just to be clear not following the terms of your lease agreement is not an impeachable offense for president. This just means that according to the agreement upon becoming president he would be forced to break the lease unless the other people in the contract agree to let him stay.
>>717199876 >since they have nothing else to do with their lives, normal people moved on. What does this say about the Republicans that did nothing but blocking Obama in the senate for 4 years during his last term?
>>717200588 >mmm, I love electing a leader just because he will piss off people with a different ideology, instead of because he is fit to govern, has experience, and identifiable workable plan for how he will improve the nation, because I'm smart!
This is why conservatism is dying. People like you need to wake the fuck up, and take some reasonable conservative stances not built on narcissistic hatred of the other, or just admit you're fucking nationalist fascists.
>>717200952 I like Obama, more than Bush anyway, but still
>tripled the stock market and cut unemployment in half Is this really attributable to Obama? Because I'm almost convinced this has very little to do with Obama and more with the market recovering after a recession more or less by itself.
>ended two wars It's true that he pulled a lot, but AFAIK the US military is still present in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
>cut the uninsured rate in half This he actually did
>brought gas down to $2.75 Are you sure this isn't just the gas price dropping due to the US becoming self-sufficient because of the oil fracking thing?
>cut the annual Bush deficit This he did
>got bin Laden Executed him without a fair trial is something you'd expect from Mossad, not the US. Nothing to be proud of, really. Especially since the CIA was tracking him all the time anyway, and this has nothing directly to do with Obama.
>>717200514 A pardon doesn't require an admission of guilt.
A pardon can be granted prior to a person being found guilty of a crime.
"The Justice Department requires that anyone requesting a pardon wait five years after conviction or release prior to receiving a pardon. A presidential pardon may be granted at any time, however, and as when Ford pardoned Nixon, the pardoned person need not yet have been convicted or even formally charged with a crime."
>>717201092 Pence is an absolutely delusional religious wingnut, and we already look like clowns my dude... We can't just say "oops" now. My point was most of the people calling for this impeachment would hate his successor even more.
Grow up. The country works through bipartisan action. We can all work to find things we agree on to get something done for the betterment of all, or we can "yummy, drink those delicious liberal tears." Who do you think the populace hating each other helps more? The actual people, or the entrenched powers getting exponentially richer, as the wealth and power consolidates within their social circle? Anybody who sincerely uses the term "libtard" is an immature delusional shit-for-brains, same for any liberal who generalizes conservatives as "raycis."
>>717201156 Conflict of interest and ethics violation is only an impeachable material if you can find US law backing up your claim. There simply isn't a legal precedent in this case for applying conflict of interest laws to the president. Especially since many of the laws don't even apply to the president.
>>717201575 If you don't remember, the supreme court has a vacant seat and the Republicans are currently controlling both houses and the presidency.
Also, there's a good chance that Pence would actually be re-elected, because he's a skilled politician (Trump is likely to do something stupid and get impeached). This would mean a second period with Pence, and there are three judges that are currently around 80 years old which at that time will be 85+ (two will be >90).
Which means that the likelihood of them dying by then is pretty fucking high, and Pence is free to nominate whatever bible thumping retard he wants with the support of both the senate and the congress.
>>717200763 >many many fallings Still far less that Hillary. He was and still is the better of 2 evils. Hes also done more as an elected president that Obama has done as president. let that seep in... Hes had over 50 billion invested into the economy and has over 70,000 jobs lined up... >b-but he said he would grab women by the pussy mum... why did people vote for him???
What I'm saying is that you have to give credit (and blame) according to the effects of his policies, not stuff that would have happened anyway with or without him.
Most of the reason the economy recovered during Obama is because Bush went into socialist mode and increased the national debt in order to bail out the large banks, which only saw its full effect after his period.
His approval ratings won't drop much because his supporters are too ignorant and proud to admit any mistake; they will blame failures on other things despite republican control of most state governments, + federal House, Senate, Executive, and soon -> Judicial.
>>717202076 http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2016/12/06/trump-lands-50000-more-jobs-for-us-in-business-deal-with-japanese-bank-n2256066 Can you atleast try and do some research before saying "kek mysides" you sound like you're from 9gag... not even reddit is that bad. Grow up kid.
>>717201837 I like troll Obama. Here’s how it would work. Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution states, “The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate.” This has been used for Supreme Court vacancies before—William Brennan began his Court tenure with a recess appointment in 1956. Any appointments made in this fashion expire at the end of the next Senate session. So a Garland appointment on January 3 would last until December 2017, the end of the first session of the 115th Congress.
>>717202179 I'm conservative, and Trump has no plan, no experience, enormous conflicts of interest, a questionable at best mancrush on a bunch of hardlining dictators, very little knowledge of or interest in helping the plight of the common man, he's just another aristocrat who will only increase the power of the upstart plutonomy our government has co-opted the American people's interests with. But go ahead, just keep hating "libtards" while our country falls apart from the inside, because fox news convinced you that their goal is to destroy their own country for some reason. I understand the parties have a major divide on many issues, but anybody tearing down the other side instead of trying to find common ground so we can work together to better our nation are the only ones who are truly un-american.
>>717198200 Repubs have impeachment in their back pockets if he gets out of hand, but removing him would cause a revolt among Trump voters (who nominated him against the wishes of the RNC heads) and they fear losing their power. They know they'll get no Dem support for ousting Trump and they know they have to suck dick to keep their positions.
tl;dr only way it happens is if a lot of individuals choose political suicide
Screw that, the only reason I voted for Trump is because he was the candidate that offered the most tax reliefs for me and my income. The religious bullshit of the GOP is a downer, but it isn't enough to make it a dealbreaker for me. I will earn more money under Trump than I would have under Hillary, that's the only thing that matters to me.
>>717202660 are u serious? in this day and age? the kids with their social media and entitlement believing everything they have to say matters and the world revolves around their feelings?? No way will they stand for 2 years of Trump... even if Trump brought world peace and stopped world hunger... they lost and no matter what will hate him until the bitter end.
Not creating jobs. Shuffling around employees that already work here. That 50 bil isn't going to "the US" it's going to other Sprint owned businesses that operate here. So not investing 50 bil, shuffling it around between the company that owns the monopoly and its (potential) subsidiaries. Garsh, usin' google is hard.
>>717202644 >"Hurr-durr, it's impossible for a rightist to have any centrist or leftist views at all!"
I'm fiscally conservative. I believe in limited spending, a strong infrastructure, and limited government influence in the spheres of personal freedom. Conservatism has become incredibly skewed in the modern political climate. I guess you could call me a liberal republican, or a conservative democrat, but I'm definitely on the right's spectrum.
>>717202604 Man I hope so. Check this out: http://www.newsweek.com/robert-reich-seven-things-obama-should-do-he-leaves-office-536804 >1. Name Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court >2. Use his pardoning authority to forgive “Dreamers” >3. Impose economic sanctions on Russia >4. Protect the civil service from the Trump transition >5. Issue an executive order protecting the independence of all government fact-finding agencies >6. Issue an executive order protecting the independence of all inspectors general >7. Issue a report on possible tax and benefit cuts
I voted for Trump, and I am in awe of how he keeps getting better. Obama is the worst president of all time. We should ask for a lsit fo things he spent 20T on. Airports n road crumbling, huge real estate and welfare bubble, ad money scam bewing wow and welfare at all time high! 500k men in jail due to bill clinton, its been tuff 2 decades. Trump is most moral president ever. Not a tax parasite scumbag like Obama. FDR caused the great depression, 2nd worst prez.
>>717202660 He's going to get his chance. That doesn't mean he ought to not be scrutinized as fiercely as Obama, Bush, or any other president who preceded him was. I hope he has just been pretending, and using that persona to win the office, but it's hard to tell what he's sincerely nutso about, and what was just bloviating to appeal to the ignorant hick voter base that elected him. I'm totally willing to admit I'm wrong if he does actually do a good job, but the guy has a bad habit of lying, and preserving his conflicts of interest.
>>717201978 Basically this. Bush didn't let the bubble burst early though that's why it became big of a problem. He shouldn't have bailed out anyone though. Bailing them out just makes them more irresponsible and immune to failure
>>717202745 >Thinks Trump isn't coming for his pension and social security
Ooooh, you don't pay much attention to any other source of information besides fox news, do you, buddy? Sorry to hear that your social safety net is being pulled out from under you and you aren't even aware of it because your drunk on xenophobia and insincere promises of a billionaire con-man who doesn't give a fuck about the middle class. Tough place to be.
>>717203432 Social security and military spending is unsustainable at current level. And with 18trillion on which fed has started increasing interest, you have to cut them for better future or we'll end up like Greece in next 50 years
Well he was wearing a trump hat so I didn't think it was that far fetched or "delusional" to assume he supported trump. Either way that wasn't my point, my point is that he's being kicked while he's down. Even if he's just wearing it for warmth or whatever I don't think he should be plastered on reddit just so liberals can feel better about themselves. And before you call me delusional or whatever other knee jerk buzzword, no i don't support trump.
>>717203200 limited spending to reduce the ever growing national debt is like the one true conservative cause they've held onto amidst a storm of social bullshit "Gay marriage!" "Flag burning!" "Abortion!" Not caring about this shit does not make me not somewhat rightist. I care about limited government, cutting reckless spending, that is the epitome of conservative fiscal causes. Fucking mouth-breathers in here, don't even understand what conservatism truly is because of the neo-con far right.
>>717203432 I appreciate your concern for my well being, it makes me feel safe and secure. From this day forward, you shall always be known as my own personal safe space, and I can think of you when I become scared because the "mean old Mr Trump" said something bad again.
And if I haven't said it lately, enjoy the next 4-8 years, snowflake.
>>717203760 lol see >>717203614 Even your fellow trump supporters know that your soc sec and pension are in greater danger under a trump administration, dude. But keep calling me a "snowflake," it really hurts.
No the key difference between me and them is i see that post and I'm disgusted by it, but I don't want to take away anybody's right to post such a thing. I don't want mandated political correctness, i don't want big brother telling us what is acceptable to say and think. i just expect people to act with some decency from time to time.
>>717203513 How in your mind are you not also losing if the president guts all power to have any sort of oversight on the wealthiest 1% when they're already reaming our govt in the ass? Have you ever researched Haliburton and their no bid contracts? This only makes shit like that more possible, and harder to prosecute, and already, nobody has seen jail time, or even a hearing, for Haliburton taking billions in tax payer money fraudulently by doing things like charging their bottomless account for a whole new truck when there's only a flat tire, then skimming nearly half the "price" off the top and putting it in their own bank account?
I don't understand why you guys want him impeached. Pence is worse than Trump. If Trump is gone who do you think fills the role of the president? I hate both him and Clinton, but I'd honestly take him over Mike "shock your love cock" Pence.
>>717198200 There is likely reason for it in the future. I suspect that by the end of the first term Trump will have an abysmal approval rating, lower than either Bush or Obama, with only extreme follows of his cult of personality sticking by him.
>>717198200 Unlikely, and you dems ruined that mostly by using the recount. Every elctoral who voted agaisnt presdient elect trump lost their job. Now bottom line have to kiss ass or trump will remove them.
>>717202378 Because it isn't and Trump has no intention of "draining the swamp". It seems pretty fucking clear at this point that anyone who legitimately thought he would "drain the swamp" was played for a fool.
Just look at his cabinet members. Arguably the worst line-up of any president to date.
>>717204771 Im delusional: The post Or better else the whole fucking thread, im gonna let you in on a little secret Almost every male with over 35 or something years old went and voted on Trump cause he was the best option. He wont even build a wall belive it or not and deep down you faggots know that despise his followers belives he will runs this country way better than obama was ever able to >B-but obama was such a great president! T-the media told me
This says little about his ability compared to the other candidates he was against. Hillary could have also done it better, and may have done it better than Trump. Of course, you're obsessed with Trump in the worst way, so arguing with you is wasted breath.
>>717205253 Dont get me wrong its pretty obvious that there are way better option but between those threes Hillary is by far the worst option and almost everything Obama did outside Americafucked up the whole world more Children died on the middle east for fucks sake on the hands of both Hillary and Obama. Im not saying Trump wont do the same but i belive that despise all the shit he says he is not delusional at all and is delivering exactly what is followers want
>>717204706 Yet on election night you were the one shocked and crying holding your body pillow and thinking about what to write on your next tumblr post. Trump won so easily its like that little bubble of yours couldn't be any smaller.
>>717200046 Putin needs America to be weak and fractured when he moves in to start re-annexing former soviet sattelite states.
In the next 4 years there will be a "russian nationalist" outcry in estonia, latvia and/or lithuania are asking for Russian help ousting the pro-european "Fascist Elements" that is threatening the "indigenous russian population"
Europe will be too busy managing the increasingly more influential and hostile right-wing parties gaining traction due to the unpopular management of the refugee crisis (and the fact that far right parties have managed to merge the definitions of "Asylum Seekers" and "Immigrants" in the media and thus the population).
All in all, it is good to be a russian oligarch at the moment. Especially if you have business dealings with Exxon Mobile.
Not so good if you are a whiny liberal opposed to autocratic police states increasing their spheres of influence over eastern europe.
Still, go Trump. Let's build the wall! Let's drain the swamp! Let's lock up killary! Let's distract the masses with infantile tweets whilst we callously and deliberately deregulate corporate business dealings at the cost to the environment and poor people. Let's tell the poor people that the liberals are to blame! And the niggers! And the terrorists! And the liberal nigger terrorists!
>>717205637 You see, this oblivious wingnut attitude, responding to something as plausible as "trump will probably have low approval ratings" with "I'm delusional:the post". Spamming disagreements to anything anti trump, etc.
You're either a shill or a narrow minded uninformed misinformation spreading machine.
>>717198200 The same, well-known professor that's predicted his presidential win (and correctly predicted every single one before him, from when the professor started doing it), has also predicted Trump's impeachment by his own party. So yes, he'll get impeached, and be the first one in history to be done so (unlike Nixon, who quit), because we know that Trump is stubborn and prideful.
>>717205783 My main concern with Bernie is really is economic policies, he would never be able to deliver them. But yes he was my first option with a little hand here and there he would had been such an amazing president >But Trump is certainly shaping up to be pretty shit in terms of international "politics" Obama banned 35 russian diplomats this week, Putin manned up and said he is waiting for trump to take in to have a better relation with the Usa, same goes for china
>>717205916 if you are so sure of this then go to Vegas and put ur entire life savings on it. I will be happy to see you after 8 years broke and homeless crying and wishing Trump could give you one of the millions of jobs hes created for the country.
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