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it's a shame that through the media people worldwide can compare their own situation to others in other countries.
the world is very divided and can't look the same and offer the same conditions to everyone everywhere.
it's a slow process developing the standards of living in mst countries.
depressing for the ones who want to have a better life too, I agree, but what is "a better life" ?
only wealth?
my wife was born in SPb too, I am Dutch, where we live now. we still have family there, I see the differences too, but her family isn't depressed or unhappy. they work hard to have a reasonably good life.

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>>717191106
That's the matter. People that aren't useless piles of bones, move abroad.

>>717191105
the Nazi sympathy kills the conversation for me, only morons promote that kinda shit.
don't search in the extreme rightwing sector for answers: their philosophy only leads to hate and destruction.

I would recommend Xanax or another benzo however you will be extremely addicted and need and it makes your memory bad. But if you need it to cope go for it. Anti depressant drugs personally I find to only temporarily increase happiness then makeyou more depressed. Have you tried googling drug types friend? Canadian here

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>>717191343
Just a pic, dude. Meow

>>717190559
Hello. I am not from Russia but I am from close. Call it neighboring country if you want. I have similar economy and is very tough and depressed shit. I felt always like there is no way out and I can't change things. You have any family members? I hanged out with my cousin a lot. He seem always to get me out of shitty situation and have my back always very loyal. We would also go bowling a lot. Sometimes darts or drinking and sometimes to go see big bouncy titties. This helped my outlook on life to be better.

>>717190559
meditation.
mindfulness.
gardening.

fuck your medications. The above options work better, and are free. education is almost always easier.

>>717191389
Yeah I did Fluoxetine for a month or so in autumn and it kinda helped

Well life sucks. Get used to it. I also live in eastern europe and I know how you feel. There is no life here, all you can do is wait till you die.

Also I know it is nice to have luxury items but try and appreciate the things you can have. Morning coffee/tea, walk in the park, vaginas , animals. In life you have to adapt to your situation. Envy isn't helpfull

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Ah, I forgot.

Unfortunately, I have a dick and can't move abroad because of this. Unless i go to hell for a year.

OP

As someone born in udssr and living in germany, tell me what are some good jobs i could take in russia?
I'd love to work there for a while and since I'm like german, I have to be worth something in your economical shithole

>>717191497
Don't be afraid to use that medication when you need it but try not to use it every day. Work on finding hobbies for example working out. Do not envy north american luxurys as they are over rated anyway. At the end of the day we all fill our days the same ways.

>>717190559
Fucking russophobe came to 1stword ubermensch board to whine about own country. You are pathetic, sir

ты че сука я те ебало начищу бля еблан нахуй на петровско разумовской встраемся епты

>>717191754
Cyka blyat

>>717191754
Fuck yout

>>717190559
Don't worry. Now that Ameritards voted for Putin, American wealth will be funneled your way. Congrats!

>>717191639
What do you mean?

>>717191423
> Nico bellic
Are you implying op become career criminal ?

>>717191423
Ah, yes, great comrade Roman, may god bless his soul

>>717191306
my never wznted to leave her home, but we met through our work and wanted to be together.
I tried to come to SPb but could find the right work (and salary) so she moved here.
because she had a Masters degree, spoke English very well and learned Dutch (and German) very quickly she now has a better job and income than I do.
just how life went for us.

don't concentrate on negativity, it's useless and paralyses you.
find happiness in family, friends, a relationship.
see your countries rich history, see the proud soul of the Russians and try to preserve that before it gets lost. don't concentrate on materialistic things: the millions will never fall out of the skye.
I was depressed for a while too and although I know what I write sounds like new age hippy bullshit it did work for me to get happier.

>>717191705
russophobe.
ever been to russia?
no shit he's russophobe, every russian with a clear mind should be.
praising this propaganda-shit-nation and its long past glory is just wrong.

>>717191423
Is your cousin's name roman?

>>717191853
He is saying traveling (vacation) or moving is not an option. He wants to improve his life in his city.

>>717191754
Ti che syka ya tebe ebalo nachishu blya eblan nahooy na petrovsko razumovskoy vstrechaemsya epty.

>>717190559
Your national antidepressant is vodka last time I checked. I heard a liter of vodka is like 3 dollars in Russia, is that true?

>>717190559
But can you buttfuck nice russian chicks??

>>717191947
Yeah but why it is because he has a dick? And hell for one year?

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>>717190559
This delivers a pretty powerful anti depressant straight to the brain. It's the only real solution in Russia and it's by far the cheapest.

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>>717191823
Why americans thinks thrump is prorussian? He and putin just don't hate each other like it was with obama, but thrump's economic plan not profitable for russian ecomony in any ways

>>717190559
509$ a month ? Try to live in Poland wher u have like 300$ for a month.

>>717191423
I have only my divorced parents and they don't really want to hang out with me and so do I.

>>717191493
>gardening
Dude, it's Russia. There are no private houses and no gardens as you know them. I live in a room with my mother, yep.

As future pharmacist I can say to you that medications are good and you're biased.

>>717191650
Your salary would suck obviously

>>717191754
Не тот город, мань

>>717191823
I lol'd

>>717191853
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription

>>717192067
I am guessing in reference to military service and women marrying ?

>>717192230
Yeah but you can at least make hot dog soup to survive.

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>>717191705
>mfw ameritards actually believe russian propaganda

>>717192152
lol no
you can also drink bath lotion

>>717192009
Not, 1 liter vodka cost aproximatly 10-15$

>>717192281
True you could be a Muslim. Count your blessings.

>>717192209
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ex-cia-director-no-doubt-putin-views-trump-unwitting-agent-n624786

trump might as well be a puppet with putin's hand up his ass.

>>717191423
Serbia isn't a neighbour of Russia, Niko

>>717190559
Well it can be worst anon.. but hey just learn how to hack life and you'll be alright.. I mean feel good for the non material things.. like T.a.T.u music and your hot Russian girls.. maybe you're bored of your environment and need to some other countries bro.. sorry for bad English..

>>717190559
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/16/an-iron-curtain-has-descended-upon-psychopharmacology/

you're better off asking another Russian

>>717192230
509$ in moscow. In some sibria shithole your average wage will be 270-300 $

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RUSSIANS INTERACTING WITH NORTH AMERICANS ARE MY FAV THREADS

>>717190559
Life is not better in the west and why do you want an iPhone 7, materialistic cunt. Russia has almost no debt, while the west and the US have trillions and trillions, once the markets crash your life will be fucking cash.

>>717192209
You think Obama's acting out a personal grudge? Do you have the memory span of a ferret?

Atleast you can afford your apartment on those wages. I'm living on minimum wage here in England (aboutc£1000 a month) and my tiny studio apartments rent is £575($710) a month, while your wages are the equivalent of £412($509). So I end up with £425 to spend on Bills and living costs, which are high in Leeds (the city I live in). Surpsisingly I'm not thar much better off.

>>717191931
my wife's sister and her husband live in an appartement in SPb very similar to OP's photo.
he was a driver for a company's CEO, didn't earn a big salary, then started to work in his free time as (illegal) taxi, after a few years he legalised it, then started his own taxi business, now he has 8 taxis driving for him. they have a good income now and he has his iPhone.
there are opportunities in your shithole, OP.

>>717190559

At least what you earn you keep. What I earn I have to give to

>local councils and councillors
>local heroin addicts
>the jobless oxygen thieves
>The immigrants
>The tax man every time I buy something

At the end of it all I come off worse than a dole bludger that can earn up to >$1000 dollars a week for doing absolutely fuck all.

And no I work in a specialised trade ans gwt penalised for earning more.

>>717190559
Wtf russia is worse than i thought when i visit st.pt some guy drive a bugatti o think that was just showing off

>>717191931
It's easy to say if you live in one of the best countries. Interesting fact that in wealthier countries there are higher level of patriotism. Nuff said.

>>717192009
~7.1 dollars as I can find out. I don't drink.

>>717192029
I did but they prefer wealthy foreigners

>>717192067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription

>>717192152
But I can't buy a pistol in Russia. I'm not in Texas or so.

>>717192600
Did he look caucasian by any chance?

>>717192662
He just look like chad

>>717190559
Dude your chicks shit all over American chicks. For fucks sake. Go fuck some sweet model look-a-like while we have to put up with all the entitled tattooed landwhales

>>717190559
Dude, leave everything you hold dear behind and start a new life in Estonia. :)

>>717192715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAP-14m7Rus

>>717192727
yes, because all Russian women look like the ones on TV.

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>>717190559
Hi. I know nothing abut Russia, just don't touch my Strela chocolate.

>>717192512
Maybe you need to move out from london to more cheap city? In moscow rent price is also fucking huge

>>717192635
Partner you really aren't getting this hey? Yes it sucks. Being in prison sucks too but like it or not atleast try to enjoy something. If you stop trying you may as well Rob banks then kill urself when u get caught like my friend did

>>717192820
He's in Leeds, but it sounds like he's living off welfare.

>>717190559
u sound nigga like being conservative and patriotic is bad thing. Look how liberal and open society in western europe looks. Constant terrorists attacks, killing etc.

>>717192557
where do you live that dole bludgers get 1000 a week?

>>717192944
yeah, there are NEEEEVER terrorist attacks in Russia. Moron.

>>717192635
it's no use starting a whining thread here and when someone from a western country writes his opinion tell him " easy to say for you".
what do you want to hear?
your life is shit and that's sooo unfair?

>>717190559
Take into consideration the massive population of Russia. Yes your wages are low and imported goods are expensive. But applaud your country for having everyone live and notbstarve to death and have running water.

>>717190559
Escape in Finland

>>717192944
Russia is third in annual terrorist attacks actually, following after Afghanistan and Iraq, followed by Nigeria and India.

>>717190559
Also op I have a way you can make alot of money . For Christmas this year I wanted your kalisnkov vodka case but I had to import a case. You should buy the vodka and empty it out and sell the bottles on ebay. If you do this for me I will pay you alot like 100dollars plus shipping

>>717193033
dubs over dubs huh? Then link one or two that happened in past two years then. TU-154m with Alexandrov Ensemble on board does not count.

>>717192995

The North East. If they play the system right they can claim a little more and get housing paid for.

Why work when someone else will for you?

>>717191423
>but I am from close
Slovakia? CZ?

>>717193247
4chan always makes me so proud.
I hope you guys become an international syndicate :')

>>717192816
I 100% guarantee you the average woman in Russia is eons hotter than the average woman in America. Obesity is not common in Russia, and being conservative, neither are tattoos, piercings or whack hair styles/colours

how do all thesefags afford cars then

>>717193204
Even if so they dont happen coz of frau Merkel which invited masses of peopleto deutschland which then ended being relocated in many europe countries and that can't be check'd for their background history and identity.

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>>717192484
you guys r so funny

>>717192761
>>717193161
I'd be glad but I can't go abroad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription

>>717192727
Hot russian girl pic related

>>717192944
Yes, bad. You propaganda boy

>>717193049
Just started a thread for no reason but to find a good antidepressant, hey

>>717193093
>massive population of Russia
>massive
>Russia

>>717193452
They don't happen because there's refugees either.
They happen because Europe is a popular destination for a particular jihadist group if it looks to make publicity stunts for the global stage. Or it used to. Nowadays it's typically unconnected nutjobs. They're preoccupied with their actual objective now, settling into northern Syria.
Terrorism goes back further than 3 years. It didn't even take landing on the ground to drill a plane into your towers and kill 3000 of you.

>>717190559
Please post a contact email if you are willing to sell me an empty kalsihnkov vodka bottle and what you would charge. I would very much appreciate it. You'll know I'm the real guy cus I'll send a pic of my cat under my disco light that no one else hasb

>>717192495
>Life is not better in the west and why do you want an iPhone 7
this

>>717192495
>Says life is not better in the west
>Doesn't get shot/imprisoned for saying life is not better in the west on the internet

>>717190559
It's worse in Romania where I live...

>>717193523
Comparing everthing to the us... Thinking 143 million isn't alot of people to manage and provide for ... The states is goons crumble eventually pal every empire does eventually

>>717192944
>Constant terrorists attacks, killing etc.
>Constant terrorists attacks
Please, do not be silly.

За тобой уже выехали, росгвардия на подходе.

>>717193523
> All this time op is just a depressed Russian troll
Why did I expect anything else? /Thread

>>717193702

Well here is the catch.

While no we won't get imprisoned or shot but we can still be convicted of thought crime. I can still be locked up for not having a TV licence despite tge fact I don't own a TV (slim chance but it's still an option, they did threaten fines on their last visit) see in the West we are not free. Our leaders are better at hiding the dictorship bit. You have no real free will here. Just more distractions and shiny thing's. Like iphones.

>>717193609
>They don't happen because there's refugees either.
This.

>>717194040
>we can still be convicted of thought crime
Name one person who has been convicted of this since WWII.

>>717190559
Get away, pidorashka. We are not glad to see you. Go back to your sosach or krautchan.

>>717191931
this is good advice. the only problem comes when family, friends, and gf/spouse don't cheer you up enough. they make life more bearable, but you have to learn to try to cheer yourself up. but sometimes even this is not enough.

hopefully you never reach the point where nothing is enough. I am at that point and I am ashamed because I keep falling back into old patterns. keep trying to climb out. not sure what to do at this point but take it one day at a time.

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>>717194106
Ur mum fag this isnow banana thread

>>717194040
>Our leaders are better at hiding the dictorship bit.
I don't think you understand what a dictatorship is.

> You have no real free will here.
You do, you're just a whiny bitch with a derailed life and personal problems.

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Wait till midnight I'll post Putin from the TV :^)

>>717192635
>they prefer wealthy foreigners
Honestly dude, I feel like slav chicks are misunderstood.
They're pragmatic. You pride yourself on the WWII legacy that forced them to be.
I find they still tend to be romantic though. Romantically idealistic even. But like many slavs they're disenchanted, but once they see a legit good thing and you are open with them about this and get past the bullshit it's different. I mean, I've had them ask me for a green card marriage (Euro, not US) sure. I always make it clear I can show them a good time or help them out, just as a friend, but I'm not going to put up a sham relationship. I swept those bartering chips off the table, leveled the playing field. Its yielded me some genuine, memorable relationships.

At the end of the day they weren't that different to be honest, beyond being very into tradition. Marriage, kids by their mid twenties, that sorta thing. Gets pounded into them from early childhood on, along with expert makeup techniques. I swear to god they're all visagists.

>>717190559
Get back to your sosach, pidorashka. We are not glad to see you here.

>>717193369
>Obesity is not common in Russia
neither are full sets of teeth

>>717194351
go away

>>717190559
Italianfag here.
In my country average per wage for common factory worker is 1000-1100€, and life&taxes costs as fuck.
I want to come in Russia with U, almost your premier isn't a faggot

>>717190559
I don't know how but make your own alcohol

>>717194372
or a full complement of brain cells.

>>717190559
well your country is better than latin america, africa. most of asia and some eastern european countries, so it could be worse

>>717194782
Lowest performer in east Europe now actually.

>Listing patriotic as a bad thing

This is why Russia will not fall no matter what happens. They have pride in their country and it's history.

Op the cuck deserves to be lynched.

>>717194935
moldova, romania, serbia, ukraine, bulgaria, macedonia

>>717195072
If they had pride they'd expel the incumbent.
Most of their economic woes right now are because of sanctions Putin imposes. They don't really affect the outside world. He just wants them in poverty in misery so they will look up to a messiah - himself, of course. "Patriotism" is blindly agreeing with him on everything he says, and ratting out your neighbors if they criticize them on Facebook so they can be hauled off.

>>717195182
2013 Russia, yes. 2016 going on 2017 Russia, no. It shot well below Ukraine at this point, which previously held the title.

>>717195317
what, i did not know what, the fuck happened?

>>717190559
wage is a little irrelevant without cost of living, even the united states there is huge disparity from region to region. the cost of renting a shoebox in some of the coastal cities here is enough to be living like a king and making payments on a mansion in other areas.

>>717194668
as far as i've seen that is not common anywhere. the idiots just have different proclivities in one place or another. some places it's general degeneracy, meth and sister fucking, others it's prattling on about diversity, socialism, and their useless college degree or everything in between. it's hard to find someone with both a head on their shoulders and the inclination to use it.

>>717195209
The poverty is a shame yes, and patriotism isn't agreeing with him on everything

Patriotism is being proud of your country and it's people and what it stands for. Say it's blind, even though you're wrong. But patriotism and pride for your people and country keeps some people going. It gives them motivation to work and try because they want to be the best they can be to make their country proud.

Take a look at Germany. You get fucking arrested for being a patriot. The morale is pathetic and they are now a weak cuck country.

>>717195417
Massive decrease in the country's wealth, mostly due to an outrageous income decline. Average wages are below Ukraine's now.

american here. anyone here who doesnt make at least 4,000/mo is basically poor. i make like 2,400 and that is literally just enough to live in a 1 bedroom alone, keep my car running and legal, and pay for food, gas, and phone

>>717194372
I'd love a hot supermodel looking chick with no teeth

>>717195520
No that's *your* definition of patriotism. Which I would agree with actually.
When I criticize Russia's interpretation of "patriotism" it's not because I want the Russian people to fail. If anything I feel their legacy has been stolen from them (again) by incidentally the same fucking people. Not even the same org, literally the same individuals.

So while we're talking about conspiracy around FEMA camps in the west, in Russia people are being hauled to prison on a conveyor belt because they insult Putin on their FB profile and a "patriot" decided to call it in.

>>717195317
Ukraine is below Russia, I believe, in most rankings

OP

>>717190559
Vodka

>>717190559
I wish KGB dont find u

>>717195621
This. I make 1200/month and between rent and the cell phone and car i need for my job, i have no money for food and have to eat lunch at the soup kitchen everyday and rarely have anything for dinner. feelsbadman

America is in a bad way now

>>717195800
It was until recently.
Decreased income combined with decreased spending power due to higher cost has plummeted Russia just about past Ukraine by now. I was taken aback just as you were.

>>717195621
to elaborate. i live n a shitty fucking apartment and that alone is 900/mo. phone is 70, electricity 100, car insurance 85.

th 2400 i make is pretax, after tax is maybe 1800.

>>717195621
fellow amerilard here, will agree that cost of living is high. however
>to live in a 1 bedroom alone
would be considered a luxury in a lot of parts of the world. I was able to do it on shit wages, but it meant living in shit apartments for a long time and not having room in the budget for much else.

not sayin', just sayin'.

>>717195710
Yes the snitches are bad. This is fact and it shouldn't happen where saying you don't like Putin has serious repercussions.

Once again there's the other side of the coin.

If you live in a shit country in shit conditions you have to have something to hold on to. Pride in your country and leaders, or whatever else. Throwing others in jail for not agreeing is one thing, but it's not right or wrong to hold on to patriotism.

I guess what I'm saying is the view is skewed due to the fact the people have a strong leader and nothing else. So naturally they are inclined to follow and praise him, as he decides their future.

Its big brother.

>>717195520
>Take a look at Germany. You get fucking arrested for being a patriot

Bullshit.

>>717195621
>>717195957

^^^This

What the fuck are you even doing living alone making that little?

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>>717190559
I live in Serbia and the average wage is much less than even 500$.
The thing is that everything that actually matters (not nigger phones) costs much less,also housing costs dozens of times less.
As I said,i live in Serbia,but I still have a 900$ phone and a 2000$ computer,along with a 800$ "Smart TV".
How is that possible?
It's called fucking banks and loans,retard.
So if OP isn't trolling and actually lives in Russia he's probably some fucking junkie off the street.
The thing is,you can't just laze around like a nigger here,why do you think weed is so popular in the USA? You fucking americucks have nothing better to do.
Also,buying an iPhone?
You do realize you can pay monthly?
If a phone costs ~ 600 you can get it right away and then pay 25 DOLLARS per month for a year. Medicine is priced at no more than 10$,mostly around 1-5$,also,free medicine doesn't exist.
Also,these are all coming from MY experience,and I live in a country that is in a far,far worse economical situation.
Kill yourself OP for trolling on a faggot board.

>>717190559
are you gay?

>>717196010
>So naturally they are inclined to follow and praise him, as he decides their future.

Yeah thats sure as hell better than getting an education and taking your own goddamn life in your own hands.

>>717190559
you sound like a butthurt kid which got no iphone for christmas
you dont have to be poor in russia you can be filthy rich but you just don't have the balls for that so you will keep earning 500$ a month and keep bragging about it you piece of shit

>>717196120
can't stand being around people. tried to suck it up but it was just driving me buggy.

took me til mid 30s but I finally found someone I could stand to live with even past the hormone-honeymoon phase of the relationship. we're still poor because times are hard all around, but it's still easier to pay the bills. if it weren't for that, though, I'd still be living by myself.

>>717190559
I got you free housing 500km away from you, bring vodka cyka

>>717196103
you even get arrested if you make anti refugee comment on facebook

>>717196103
If you're a German nationalist you're considered a Nazi.

If you're considered a Nazi they throw you in jail because muh 6 trillion

>>717196230
If you live in a shithole don't expect education.

This is simple stuff anon cmon

>>717196010
Patriotism isn't pretending everything is okay when it's not.
Patriotism is committing yourself to the well being of your nation and your people. Even if it means going against the leader, or against yourself if you find out you were on the wrong track.

I despise Putin. Not because I have some general issue with Russians, or because I want to outcompete them. I'd much rather see them become stable, lawful partners. I despise him because he has hijacked Russia, punishes the thinkers, silences opposition and imposes artificial suffering on them so he can then preach to them about foreign devils. His entire foreign policy seems so out of left field because it is largely fictional, it is a narrative that exists to legitimize his domestic policy, which has been a rapid descent into totalitarianism.

I also despise his entire legacy for not even trying to keep this under wraps, but culturally normalizing this behavior and poisoning entire generations of their culture. These same methods are used to foster low level corruption so no one can cast the first stone when high level corruption is the order of the day. And then you end up with people living in poverty and being forced into the criminal scene.

And for fucking what? So this oligarch can live like a god? What about the interests of the Russian PEOPLE? They have a cultural proclivity for science and the arts, and they've been reduced to confused and disillusioned rabble by these men.

This all started going off the tracks when the Russian revolution was hijacked by Ulyanov and then Lenin. They were on the right path then, before radicalist opportunists showed up. Could've been a prospering, valuable player in the global community.

>>717195710
this.

OP

>>717194138
why expect your family to cheer you up?
maybe they say the same about you?
start making it your goal to feel better and cheer them up? it has to start somewhere with someone.
don't underestimate the power of pretending: if you just tell yourself something positive in the end you will start believing it a bit and your family, friends gf will sense that and it eill affect them too in apositive way.
get up in the morning, look in the mirror and tell yourself every fucking day the same:
life is shit and I will see what I can do about that today.
pick each day 1 simple positive thing to do and promise yourself to do it;
like saying spasiba or kak dela to some stranger, like the shopassistant or busdriver. or giving a bit of food to a stray cat. buy 1 flower for your gf, both she and the poor babushka who sells it at the metro station will be glad. why spend the money on vodka and be like every other alcoholic asshole?

>>717196400
I think you latched onto one part of what I said and ignored the rest. I explicitly said you should try to cheer yourself up.

The sad part of Russia is not the poverty but the mindset of people. St Petersburg and Moscow are only 2 OK citys that also have a lil bit of western lifestyle. People are really xenophobic and still live in the past. Everyone who does not agree with them is either a fascist or a russophobe. The majority actually believes their goverment led media which is funny to watch. I understand russian a bit and the things they claim are so pathetic. Also they have a goverment led children camps where they basically brainwash children to their soviet era mindset. Majority of Russians also believe that CCCP or Soviet union was a good thing and that they "freed" Europe. I hated it there and always will.

>>717190559
but you have russian girls

so it makes it worth it i guess

>>717190975
is that your room? where do you live?

>>717196252
yep, everyone can make 2000 dollars a week, the rest 140 million people are just lazy scum I suppose

>>717196443
I hit submit too soon:
you should expect that good relationships will bring you some cheer. that is not the same as expecting your family to cheer you up, i.e. expecting them to do for you what you should be trying to do for yourself. (however, if they are worth being with, they will try to cheer you up when they can)

>>717196521
No. I live in a communal flat in a room with my mother. Other 2 rooms belongs to other people.

>>717196466
>people are still really xenophobic

God forbid you want to keep your country from becoming a melting pot

>>717196367
That's fair critique. I admire him for not bowing to others honestly. He definitely could be helping the people more, but he strikes fear into people, which a real leader should do.

If the people don't fear you, they will push you around and call your bluffs. Then others in power laugh at you and treat you like shit. See king nigger.

>>717196531
okay, I understand.
but you get what I mean in general: don't focus on others but on yourself, what can you do to go to bed and be able to smile about 1 good thing about the past day. why bother about all bad stuff when you can't change that anyway?
and a relationship should make you feel better, if that isn't the case; find someone who does make you feel good and makes you smile.

>>717196715
>God forbid you want to keep your country from becoming a melting pot
Ahaha, you know that Russia is the third country by migrant population after US and Germany, huh?

OP

>>717196715
>but he strikes fear into people, which a real leader should do.
He's the leader of a 21st century European nation, not a crew of Nigerian militants.

>I admire him for not bowing to others honestly
Nor does Kim Jong-Un.

A real leader doesn't create a nation of followers. A real leader creates a nation of leaders.

>>717193278
Fucking bullshit I'm in the north east our property and rents are the lowest in the UK no way can you get a grand a week from benefits unless your a Muslim cunt with 15 kids to claim for and a 7 bedroom house. I don't know if you realise but it's the same benefit system for the whole country

>>717196715
>God forbid you want to keep your country from becoming a melting pot
that sounds sarcastic. melting pot is not a good thing.

>>717195904
you pay 1/4 of your income to your goverment? german here. I thought you could keep nearly all your income for yourself in america. I make 36k per year and with insurance and taxes I get to keep around 24k/year.

>>717196823
very true.

>>717196845
that last sounds nicer than real life is:
human beings are ants, we need workers, if everyone is the queen ant the system will collapse.
capitalisme thrives on the world being unequal: if there isn't always someone having more materialistic stuff than you have why bother to work, buy, loan, etc?

>>717196979
>I thought you could keep nearly all your income for yourself in america
Is that what we're doing now. Just shitposting?

>>717192322
We have a kid from the Ukraine at work who confirms the propaganda, basically says no one has anything and there's a lot of walking involved

>>717197068
>human beings are ants
Except you, right?

>capitalisme thrives on the world being unequal:
Capitalism thrives on value creation. Which needs leaders. We can contract and/or automate as necessary. If we can't keep up, we're in the green.

>>717196832
And that's why people are fighting it, because of how much there is.

U.S wants spics out, they vote trump, Germans are cucks, and Russians beat the shit out of non patriots. Or non native Russians.

You act like a lot of these countries aren't trying to keep non natives out.
>>717196845
Kim jong un says he's gonna do shit and never does anything, that's what differentiates him. Putin executes what he says he will because he bows to no one, not because he's a pansy.

When it comes to creating leaders

Lions aren't taught to hunt. Leaders are born, not made.

>>717196979
That's only if you're already making millions per year

>>717190559
at least games in russia are cheap

>>717197143
why except me?
I am a low life worker, what makes you think otherwise?
and your statements are out of what textbook? yes, there must be leaders in society but you make it sound like the whole populations is made into leaders by a true big leader. such crap.

>>717197214
I'm not right. I want people to be judged not by race but by intellect and talents.

>>717197214
>Lions aren't taught to hunt. Leaders are born, not made.
Let me guess which you are..

Seriously though, it comes down to culture and education. The reason Russia veered off tracks after perestroika for one, is because nobody knew what the fuck to do and for 7 generations had been trained to shut up and take orders or else. Western nations meanwhile could rebuild their entire country in 2 years time post-WWII and catch up to economic delay in another 2 years time. Because when you give them a phone and a budget they can make things happen.

Russia's cultural affinity for fascism is artificial. And fairly new, it's a 120 year old addition.

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>>717197294

>>717197214
>Lions aren't taught to hunt. Leaders are born, not made.
Why that rightwinged scum in my thread?

You have all the nicest girls. Russian wome 20/10. Also smoke weed for your depression

>>717197323
Textbooks sure. And experience.
When you empower people to make their own decisions, when they have the necessary skills, resources and information, they become self-sustaining producers. The more of these you have, the greater your state budget and the lesser the burden on your society.

That is why the west is the rich place in the world right now while Russia is impoverished despite field testing this rethoric for 120 years. That's why east Europe is backlogged but has been catching up.

>>717197432
>Russian women are 20/10
how do you know?

>>717197353
Roasted. And
/thread

>>717196367
I'm so glad that, every now again, I see a post that someone has put some thought into. Long time lurker, usually spend time on other chans. Just wanted to say thank you.

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>>717190559
You guys are pretty hopeless considering you allow all those shitty billionaires to rule you.

Youre one step away from getting prima nocta imposed on yourselves

>>717197551
Meh, i used to work in Moscow about two years.

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on a side note:
I am impressed to have this thread on /b/.
you can jump on me by saying this, but I am an oldfag (2007) and despite all differences and asshole statements this thread is meaningful.
saved the general idea of /b/ going to pieces a but, on this last day of the year.

sorry for interupting: carry on, anons.

>>717197342
That's fair, but that's not how the world works.

Stick to your own kind and you'll be accepted easier, you have to offer serious shit to be accepted by others that aren't weak.

>>717197353
I never said I was a leader, stop assuming shit like you did the other guy.

If nobody knew what the fuck to do then there must have not have been a strong leader according to your logic. Stalin was a strong leader, cruel or not he got shit done. Your logic is flawed.

>>717197428
I disagree with something must be rightwing scum amirite

>>717197616
>prima nocta
Topkek

Life does not suck. Your outlook sucks, OP. What you value sucks.

If you have children, or a wife or parents or siblings you are already rich. The rest just comes from appreciating that. If you cant appreciate that no standard of living can make you happy.

FAMILY IS EVERYTHING.

>>717195904
To be clear, you get to spend a russian's average salary on just entertainment and food.... We're trying to cheer him up man

>>717197688
>If nobody knew what the fuck to do then there must have not have been a strong leader according to your logic. Stalin was a strong leader, cruel or not he got shit done. Your logic is flawed.
You're right. There wasn't a strong leader. Because they only had one (figuratively) and he left. While other societies that were more self-sufficient had no problem replacing the leadership and carrying on.
They have failed, spectacularly, over and over again. And you keep saying that all they need to do is give it another crack and go extra deep on the fascism this time.

>>717190559
If you change the russia for brazil and put more taxes (60℅) will be the same, plus here is hot as hell (37°C)

>>717190559
I live on nevsky prospekt.
Get rich or die trying cuck. Also shit is quite cheap, like meat pie. That's good food for a dollar and it will fill you up quite a bit. Like that cock you're about to suck.
Op is worthless fag

>>717197676
His country is the example of what happens when the government makes the businessmen get on their knees. High taxes - > employees become slaves

>>717197789
At least not depressing cold and cloudy

>>717197642
What did you do there? and when? just curious

>>717197725
Get the fuck out hippie

>>717190559

So what is there to actually DO in russia? Play world of tanks on a dell craptop?

>>717190559
Vodka, the Russian anti-depressant

>>717197846
iPhone 7 here costs (If it was in dollar) 1990$

Your government is holding people like you back. Same will happen to the USA now, governments becoming billionaires clubs is a huge issue

>>717190559

Generalization is a helluva drug. Faggot.

>>717197780
>and you keep saying they need to give it another crack

What the fuck is with you? Nowhere have I said anything like that. I have mentioned patriotism and Putin as a leader, along with questioning your logic.

At no point did I state that all Russia needs to do is have a new person be in charge or some stupid shit like that.

This is the third fucking post you have assumed shit, knock it off or we are done with this discussion.

discussions on many leveks here:
- OP's personal life, his feelings about it: gf, salary, etc.
- economic and politic situation in RU and the rest of the world.
- mechanismes of society
- prices of games and meatballs
I am not sure everybody gets in what topic the other posters are.

>>717198048
Braindrain the lot of them to the EU. We'll build a new superpower, one that respects the democratic process and individual sovereignty.

>>717197846
I believe that there in Russia taxes are not that high. As individual entrepreneur you must pay just 6% of your income as i remember.

>>717197789
Glad to see you in St Petersburg at -10 C winter

>>717198037
Iphone 7 here in Brazil costs 3 and a half minimum wages.

>>717197888
Yeah, most of population can't afford a single air cond. and the ones who had one don't turn it on because of high light taxes

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>>717198090
who made you king of the thread?

>>717198098
made my day

>>717197900
Worked at the Amerikanskaya Passolsvsta. Close to krasnoprenenskaya metro. Was there doing military bullshit paperwork mostly. I enjoyed my time. 2006-10.

>>717190559
The dollar sign goes before the number.

>>717197900
>>717198217
Damnitt I meant 06-08

>>717198141
6%? That must be wrong.
In brazil let's say the minimum is wage 300 dollars, the boss has to pay in taxes almost that amount for the government to have the employee working for him. So the businessmen has to pay "double" the minimum wage. Without counting other taxes.

>>717196979
>you pay 1/4 of your income to your goverment?
yea that sounds about right

you get to keep 2/3? wow us americans think europeans and canadians pay over 50% to their government

fuckin propaganda man

>>717198170
In Russia it is at least 7.6 minimum monthly wages

OP

I have a question for russian if you guys fight and won against the nazis and millions of russians lost their life why there is so much russians claiming to be nazis nowdays? Are you guy xenophobic by nature?

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>>717198199
I'm not going to sit here trying to have a discussion with you if you're gonna keep assuming shit

lel. Have you ever considered the slightest possibility of the fact that you might just suck at whatever you're doing and it's not the fault of the country? I'm a Russky too btw and I simply can't relate to the OP's comments.

>>717198226
Oh, we have a xeroque roumes here

>>717190559
You have nice girls? That's probably the only thingi can come up with. How there are so mnany millionairs in Russia, if it is such a shit hole?

>>717198373
you mix up posters all the time, you and I are not into a discussion.
lurk more.

>>717196715
>If the people don't fear you, they will push you around and call your bluffs

This is a warlord's attitude and part of the problem, it's how I remember 8th grade. A leader should provide stable conditions and opportunity for all to prosper, fear should have little to do with it outside of fear of the consequences of breaking the laws meant for everyone's safety

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>>717197735
uh, i didnt list all my costs. i mean gasoline for my car is like 80/mo. it seems i average damn near 100/mo just in car maintenance/repairs. but yes if i am careful to eat cheaply i have a little bit of money to spend on toys/entertainment, but very little

>>717190559
>People are gloomy, angry, stupid and conservative (and very patriotic)
>to visit the doctor who knows nothing about medicine and would be glad to send you home if you haven't a bunch of bureaucratic prescriptions or so
>So in Russia the iPhone is luxury item
>St Petersburg and Moscow are only 2 OK citys that also have a lil bit of western lifestyle
>People are really xenophobic and still live in the past. Everyone who does not agree with them is either a fascist or a russophobe
>Also they have a goverment led children camps where they basically brainwash children to their soviet era mindset
>because nobody knew what the fuck to do and for 7 generations had been trained to shut up and take orders or else

Simply bullshit
dk if you just have never been here or never went outside to see the life here
does not worth time anyway for those who wants to know about life in Russia

>>717198190
lol in my flat there is a boiler but no one uses it because of economy

i wash with water from giant pan which i heat on a gas

OP

>>717198226
that's not a dollar sign
This is a dollar sign US$
retard

>>717197888
>>717198141
cold > hot

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>>717190559
Rp: Tabasco coated suppository I (one)
D.S. Internal, insert analy, stop running after crossing the border

>>717198485
Most leaders don't actually enforce consequences, which is why they are not feared.

Look at duterte. He told people if they're caught with drugs they will be fucking slaughtered. He's doing it and now drug dealers are fucking afraid of him

>>717196979
Income from a job is taxed up to 40% here, income from other methods us taxed differently, leads to some arguments

Disregard this post. OP's a typical wannabe emigre western fanboy. Typical spb shit...

>>717198350
iPhones are gay

>>717198715
I think that pist covers the essence of this whole thread.
We can go home now, do whatever shit we have to do today.
Topic's finished.

>>717197725
>If you have children, or a wife or parents or siblings you are already rich. The rest just comes from appreciating that. If you cant appreciate that no standard of living can make you happy.

Spoken like a true poorfag

>>717198141
I meant the value over import stuff (buying on eBay) here we Pay the price of dollar plus 60% of the value in taxes, in the stores anything is price+60℅+more

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>>717198715
So am I

>>717192809
aren't these chechen ?

>>717198825
That sucks I admit

>>717190559
St. John's wort is a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor, available over-the-counter in many drugstores. It'll cost less than 5 bucks. It works as well normal anti-depressants with and has reduced side-effects.

Meta-analysis of the evidence for inevitable scrubs who will dispute it on the basis of it being a cheap herbal supplement:

Linde, K., Kriston, L., Rücker, G., Jamil, S., Schumann, I., Meissner, K., … Schneider, A. (2015). Efficacy and Acceptability of Pharmacological Treatments for Depressive Disorders in Primary Care: Systematic Review and Network Meta-Analysis. Annals of Family Medicine, 13(1), 69–79. http://doi.org/10.1370/afm.1687

what do Russians think of the SKS? Is the slam fire problem as big of a deal as its made out to be, or does the firing pin have to be retardedly filthy? Does a spring loaded firing pin completely solve this issue?

>>717198948
Plus the gov mail deliver will take a price for deliver your imports, If you do not pay for private services like fedex

>>717198660
Which cares, it's narrow minded, the real question is, is it best for the country long term

That very action could be seen as slaughtering your nations small business men hustling for a living, its all a compromise and not meant to include romantic absolutes

>>717198660
Duterte Gansta as fuck

>>717198704
I mean are there really big ideaological differences between moscovites and saint petersburgers?

>>717198660
>implying drugs are bad

>>717198217
How did you find it, can you confirm that conditions are like what OP is describing although im guessing it was super different for us military people.

also, sorry for being ignorant, but what's passolsvsta? couldnt find on google translate/no results in search.

>>717199463
No there aren't. I lived in Moscow for 2 years.

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I earn about $550-600 in region, I guess you can earn much more than $500 if you have skills
But yeah, I'm planing to leave this country, because I hate the weather (minus 20 C in winters) and I want to live as a human

>>717199547
Embassy
Посольство

>>717199601
fair enough, guess it would have been pretty chill, embassy people are always treated well ive heard

>>717190559
Suck a reindeer's funky ass.

Suck a basset hound's dick.

>>717198846
Well they're all over. And bleeding partially into some former USSR states, notably Ukraine.
Kavkaz aren't restricted just to the Caucasus. Russia is an ethnic melting pot on par with imperial Rome. I guess you could say "local" groups are known to be higher up but also more covert. Probably because they're higher up, can't have cops busting you on shooting off some happy-rounds at an intersection when you have a trafficking operation on the line. But they subcontract consistently and follow very long term partnerships. The thugs are their gunmen.

>>717198358
Look for Duguin e Eurasianism, Duguin is the mentor of Putin. Basically he wants everything that's bad in the country to make it has an even more socialist atmosphere. High criminality, prostitution, drug trafficking, increase in alcohol comsuption. So the population live in fear, that's what all socialist countries do.

>>717199463
I believe there are. I'm from neither of the two cities so the difference is a lot more striking. People from spb, on average, are a lot more engaged in politics and tend to be more liberal and leaning towards western ideals. While being seen as more polite and cultured, they seem to have a bitter obsession with their presumed intelligence and also tend to think that they 'know better' than any other people in Russia.

>>717200770
Dugin's version of Eurasianism is a combination of four points from communism, Nazism, ecologism and traditionalism. While Communism's opposition to free enterprise was adopted, the Marxist commitment to technological progress was dropped to appeal to Luddites and other anti-technology environmentalists opposing industrialism and modernity. Traditionalism was derived to surpressing free thought. Most of it comes from Nazism. The end result is what Russia needs, according to the author himself, a consistent fascist fascism, and Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine shows his regime adopts such ideology.[2]

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>>717190559
I'm sorry. I live on the island off Maui. I earn average of $10,000-$13,000 per month. Not rich, but can do most anything i want.

You should develop and market a website for citizens of the US to donate iPhones. We all generally have the newest model and the old one sits in a drawer.

Android fag myself tho.

G-luck being poor. If you have a hot sister mail her over for a few weeks.

>>717200968
Never said that I earn less than I need :)

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>>717190559
Cost of living is low in Russia.

>>717201228
Comparing to NY, one of the most expensive cities in the world to live..

>>717201228
So is income.

>>717201306
You're talking about Moscow

>>717201228
You're talking about Ural farmers

>>717190559

My favourite hooker comes from Saint Petersburg, What is it like over there?

>>717195621
Ameritard here, can confirm, fuck this country so hard

>>717190559
>Please advise me a good antidepressant available in Russia :^)
Beautiful Russian girls.

>>717201850
Yea, if you are agreeing with that guy then you are both definately the "ameritards" people talk about. 2,500 a month is fucking above and beyond what I need along with decent savings. Lrn2adult

Mr. Snowden, sir, is that you?

>>717201545
Highly available, 65 dollars for an hour

>>717201998
They prefer wealthy foreigners as I said

>>717197676
Yeah good thread Slavfag

>>717201998
And they are dumb as shit

>>717190559
Oh, so you think the rest of the world isn't nationalist? Look boy, we all have problems in any part of the world, the world itself is a problem, in USA we are trying to get rid of Mexicans, Muslims and so on.

>>717196483
Russian guys don't appreciate Russian women they take them for granted. Until they move somewhere else and see the shit available there

>>717190559
Sounds like the best antidepressant is to leave Russia.

>>717198715
/thread

>>717190559
On the plus side - the view from your window at least you have a parking space - chin up

>>717196126
serbia is not a country, though

>>717199547
well, I'm a black man. so dealing with the younger people during the day was rough. had to defend myself on plenty of occasions. I'm a Marine so fighting is natural.
I got a lot of love in the night life in Moscow. Face control is a huge thing there. I guess they thought me and some of my of friends were 50 cent tier. As soon as they understand your not a nigerian but an American black, you get props for whatever reason. i blame mtv. but it was a good time and the women gave me a lot of love and showed me a lot.

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>>717190559
Capitalism.
and a proto fascist kleptocrat president have done that.

if the USSR never fell this would have never had happened.

During the USSR the people had Ideals to Strive work and fight for.
now capitalism has drowned them into depression.

>>717190559
>Minimum wage...
>Average wage...
*and many other statistics not included*

Russians are poor. correct.

>People are gloomy, angry, stupid and conservative (and very patriotic)
>very patriotic
Wrong.
>People are gloomy, angry
Correct.

>Free medicine
>Paid medicine
>is shit

Correct.

>Please advise me a good antidepressant available in Russia :^)

Fuck you, Ivan Ivanovich, you know damn well you can't get any, nigger.

>I'm from Saint Petersburg
Me too, just on a different continent

>>717191639
I'd marry you for your green card if you suck my dick and let me fuck you in the ass whenever I wanted.

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>>717201228
>source: 2001

>>717190559
>living in Poland
>basically the same shit
>atleast I can work in the West for couple of months come back and live cheaply

>>717190559
thats cuz u dont live in moscow, my russian friend said your fucked and probably extremely weird if youre from anywhere else

>>717205879
fucking moscovites fuckers

tell your friend to go fuck himself in his ass

>>717190559
Stop comparing your life to western people's life and embrace your russian way of life and identity. The grass is always greener on the other side but it really isn't. Who cares about wages? I'm sure you can buy more with that 500$/month than some ausfag can living in a big city. Your rent is probably cheap as fuck, so is food and mostly everything else except maybe electronics but do you really need the latest phone made by western companies? Just buy a phone from countries that don't have increased taxes on their russia exports because of political reasons. China makes good cheap phones, Huawei etc.

>>717205759
I heard they are looking for truck drivers in Germany.

>>717205759
>living in Poland
>not working in IT for western companies
>not earning fuckload of money and living like a king due to low costs of living in Poland
well, you asked for it.
If you really go to germany to work physically like a worm you are I'm pretty sure you deserved this. Do you even have anything you can offer to your employer other than muscles? Do you even have a degree?
Kek.

>>717206024
>your rent is cheap as fuck
If by cheap you mean over a third of his monthly income, sure. Same as in the West, just lower numerical values struggling to stretch like everybody else.

>>717190559
>Please advise me a good antidepressant available in Russia :^)
wodka

>>717206305
Watching western countries get flooded with niggers, sandniggers and gypsies always makes me feel better.

>>717205759
shoo shoo poo