>>717178097 That's dope. But I mean why do I want to do anything? get a good job, buy a house, live in said house. For what? I fell like no matter what I do, productive or otherwise, really doesnt have a purpose. If that makes any sense.
Will dump random pics of hot chicks in reply to genuine advice/input
>>717178016 The goal of the Entity is to express its true wisdom through an evolved portion of its consciousness, termed the Sovereign Integral. Although the stage upon which this growth of consciousness takes place is within a universe of many dimensions (the multiverse), the space-time dimension is the primary field of the Entity’s exploration and consequent development. In short, we are designed to explore the space-time domain as individuated agents of First Source.
Being around family is kind of counter productive because they have no idea that I'm this conflicted or alone. To them all they see is the face I put on for everyone else, including and especially them.
>>717178016 Looking inwards sufficiently will show you what you need to do outwardly. You don't seem like you have found your purpose yet, that thing that fulfills you and gives you the tools you need to progress as a being this time around.
What if all the things I used to be passionate about just arent enjoyable anymore.. atleast not in the way they used to be. I spent 5 years in the military waiting to get out and be free, and now that I'm free I dont know what the fuck to do with myself.
>>717178468 I see that you are lost. Look, you are not supposed to simply pay taxes and die. There is so much more to your consciousness that most of us can even comprehend. If you search for the light, you will be shined upon. All you have to do is want it
>>717178925 I had the impression you feel only alone when they are away. Which is ok, because yes, then you are alone. So don't be, sourround yourself with family.
Maybe i don't understand you because i don't have that conflict. I'm alone, no family, few friends, the same struggle to find meaning in going to work and buying random stuff. But i don't feel very bad about it, just doesn't make sense.
>>717179422 That's because they're not looking to better themselves and fulfill themselves, either. These discourses are completely alien to most people, and they end up filling their time with jobs and having kids and then they wake up one day at the end of their lives and wonder what they did with all their time.
This is short-sighted >>717179404 and leads to nothing truly useful on your own personal grand scheme.
>>717179444 It just feels like a crisis that nobody sees is happening because who the fuck would I tell? I have FWB's but dont maintain steady female relationships, my parents would shit a brick, and I dont have any friends close enough to me to dive of the deep end philosophically with.
I guess my question is why is it that no matter what I do, what extreme I go to to feel something significant.. by the time i make it to this new milestone in life i just look around asking "Is this really all there is"
>>717179722 Yeah, been there. You have to destroy those searches for answers outside, in the "real world" sufficiently, and you'll start looking beyond this world-as-you-define-it (while still being here, of course).
It's a difficult time in life, and there aren't enough teachers of this kind of thing any more.
>>717179802 Pills are palliative and not real answers. That's a lie and you'll know somewhere deep down.
>>717179802 I've been diagnosed, treated and cleared for work stress induced depression.. Was on zoloft for like 8 months.
They said I'd notice a difference, but it just made me spacey/forgetful. No particular improvement I noticed. Got a med marijuana card last week to try to help me sleep, but it just makes my inner voice talk to itself instead of to me (<-- might be insane, idk)
>>717178292 It makes no sense that life "has a purpose" because life is not an entity, only a state of being. it exists and we as humans tend to complicate bullshit way too much. There's only three options: Life has a purpose and that purpose is solely individualistic because even though god says follow these commands, you still have "free will" in some sense to do the opposite; life has no purpose and nothing matters, or the final option: Life is just that, Life, and you need to just accept it instead of trying to categorize it. I don't believe in "god", I don't believe life has no purpose because right now I wanna fuck some delicious little pre bait pussy and do things I consider fun negating the comment "Life has no purpose", so in conclusion I believe Life is just that, neither with a purpose or without a purpose. Everyone always tends to think in black and white but let me ask you this anon, why not think orange? You're frustrated because your brain is still thinking in cause and reaction. "We have a purpose therefore we must follow it." or "There is no purpose therefore "nothing matters" but to who? Purposes only apply to the individual and cannot apply to an entire society of people or individual beings. It's like saying the purpose of people in america is to have the american dream, but every dream is different correct? Purpose cannot apply to multiple sentient beings, only the single individual. Now this is where free will comes in. How do you choose to portray this universe? Only you can decide. Find your purposes, notice I said purposes because life is never about one sole purpose. For example, the sole purpose of humans is so procreate, but in order to procreate you need a purpose of finding a partner, a purpose of falling in love hopefully to create a unified family, a purpose to raise the child after birth, and a purpose in a societal sense to stay alive as long as possible to spend time with your child to create lasting relationships afterwards.
I dont know man, I feel like everyone around me is skin deep. People in California flake plans, and just ghost at the first sign of realness, and everyone has a million friends they arent really close to. Kinda just makes me want to sit in my house
>>717178016 Look OP , even for me , i lost my last parents one year ago and had to learn to live alone , i got anxiety , depress and stuff , i couldn't even leave the house for a time , i'm also virgin , a bit of acne left and only have one friends in real life ( a good one hapilly) but i'm still motivated , i have a few passions ( and not unreal ) so i'm working on it every day such as programming , cyber-security, having social skills , anyways just trying to be better in 'what i like' , don't you have anything like that ? Since my both parents die just 'like that' in a matter of seconds , i see life almost as a game ... do what you want to do on the moment , fuck anyone else .
I don't know , maybe i'm too motivated because i've been really low ... can't really tell
Yep. And when you die, no afterlife. It's not eternal blackness, either. You don't remember before you were born, right? Well, death is no different. I prefer to think of it that way, gives me a lot of peace.
Self improvement feels good. Do it if you want. It won't matter either way but at least you might feel a little better about waiting for annihilation.
Just make sure you plan ahead enough to maintain whatever standard of living you're comfortable with. If you feel like accomplishing any long term goals, plan accordingly to make it feasible. Fill the remaining time doing whatever you want. Try not to do things that will have a larger negative impact than positive on yourself.
You can try to get hyped up on the whole self improvment/masturbation bandwagon and strive to be the greatest human that ever put pants on one leg at a time or you can coast through life and stay comfy while you wait for the inevitable end. There is fundamentally no difference. Just pass the time how you like. Don't think too deeply about existence. It is a fruitless endeavor and will only cause suffering. Relax and do what you have to do to exist.
Try not feeling bad that you don't feel bad when others might feel bad in that same situation. It's the same as attending a funeral. You're either the loud lady crying at 500 decibels tipping the coffin over, or the the guy in the back who silently watches everything, doesn't show emotion but understands and relates to the situation even though he may not emotional show any sings of anything. I feel like you want to belong and act like others when you say "I want to feel something". Anon, you're already feeling some type of way and you're not coming to terms with accepting it. Be yourself and react how you'll react without categorizing and judging yourself so much. Also, when you say "I just feel like I cant think of a purpose worth getting out of bed for", thats self doubt. if you really believe in that sentenced you wrote you would of commuted suicide like many others who thought the same, but you continue with your existence correct? So it means you want to live. Try thinking outside the box. Remember what I said, " Life is just that, Life, and you need to just accept it instead of trying to categorize it." Your frustration comes from trying to categorize things. Putting a purpose on something categorizes that thing. Biologically you cannot help it. It creates self doubt sure but that's your brain you have NO CONTROL OVER, and remember that. You do not have full control over your body so think of your body as two beings. Let me as you this, do you consciously power your heart or is your heart pumping and beating even when you sleep? Respect the body, and respect your mind by not including self doubt into your thoughts. It creates a perpetual cycle your neurons will form around. You need to think stop thinking about a purpose and live the purpose. You are only a small fraction of the trillions of cells in your body. You need to respect your body vehicle and your thoughts to remove this self doubt by not thinking about it and living.
>>717179357 It will help your fantastic claim about "consciousness" the day any two people who study it can even agree on what the definition of consciousness is, much less how it all works and what it is entirely capable of, which, entirely depends on the definition of your choosing.
Magic and supernatural hocus pocus because wishful thinking, sure, toss that all on its wonderful fantasy too.
>>717181807 >sailboats Fuck yeah. OP should buy a boat then :)
>>717181821 Yeah, but it could be deeper. What you see are just random opinions really, nothing with much substance.
I personally face the loneliness with nothing, i have nothing to give to those deamons anymore. I have accepted that it all makes no sense, that our brains are not made to make us happy but are inherently unstable.
To be honest, i don't think humans should have grown such large brains. Maybe it's not good to go from Cro Magnon to Dyson sphere in just 30k years.
Stupid people seem to be happy all the time. I wish i was stupid as well.
>>717178016 this is why the world is messed up, everyone in the olden days had it right, without religion the world is shit and you know it. vikings had a purpose to fight and prove themselves they could reach valhalla, christians always had a friend they could reach too and listen to them, without religion came depression and edgy virgins like op
>>717178016 This is one of those great unanswerable questions of philosophy. Anything can give your life meaning, but there is no "purpose". It's vague I know, but this is the basis of Existentialism. The only why to find meaning in your life is to give your life meaning yourself; that said asking is a great step towards finding your meaning of life.
If you are of a mind, check out the video below on Existentialism, it's short.
>>717178999 Epicurous is often confused with hedonism, which was used by his ideological competitors, the stoic, as a straw man, to ridicule and discredit his actual philosophy in the public, and "win" in the shoddy marketplace of ideas. ...if you call ignoring the philosophy that laid out the logic of minimizing total suffering and increasing the total quality of life for all, in favor of continued barbarism, brutality, misery and war for the next 2350 years, "winning".
>>717182369 No, earlier people's simply had something to strive for since noone could disprove religion (in a sense anyways). And to OP, you should do something to help further humanity. God simply is not needed in today's world to justify good actions on a person's part.
>>717182424 >hedonism, which was used by his ideological competitors
While this is true, hedonism is still the best label to describe Epicurus mindset. I don't mean it in a negative way, hedonism is, in my view, the best tool, nay, the only tool, to make existence bearable.
If you don't agree i say this: More power to you then. Whatever brings you more joy or less suffering, follow that. If it actually is stoicism, go for it.
Meanwhile i subscribe to this shit: http://www.hedonist-international.org/?q=en/newsblog
The early episodes on Epicurus, & the Stoics are the best, You can see right where the world came to a fork in the road, was presented with a road of peace and happiness and wisdom, barely lifted its head to take a brief look down it, before continuing trudging along down its road of darkness and despair and war and slow random sporadic progress.
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