What type of communist? If you aspire to be something akin to Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist, my best advice would be to call your congressman, arrange a meetup at a local motel, and let him cum in your ass.
First don't join any communist club, they are memes with no relevance. You should really be pushing for socialist policies in local and federal government. Vote whenever you can and keep in mind everything takes time. Implementing it will take time. If you are still young, you may want to consider a career in politics.
That's about it. Just remember that things take time. It took over 3000 years for people to ban slavery, and communism is a much lower priority for most people.
>>717168555 Your doing good already, now move to San Francisco California, and blame all your problem on succsesful wealthy white males while simultaneously hoarding wealth and using your communist persona to fool people into showing you give a shit about them.
>>717170505 Capitalism is the best possible choice for political system, sure it's not the best but it sure beats working for an even shityer government. Sure there is corruption as well but it is unavoidable. Why would communism be any better then capitalism?
>>717170800 >he doesn't know that Europe is almost entirely a Socialist Democracy gov't wise >Venezuela, Cuba, and NK are all Communist, also all shit >China is Oligarchy as fuck, not sure it can call itself Communist anymore >muh not real Communism and muh untried form of Communism
Communism is just Oligarchy/Dictatorship with a lot of the color Red.
You just wait till those Chinks collapse and SK beats the everloving fuck out of the North. Castro is already dead and Venezuela is dying fast. It will be the end of Communism.
you will need either diminishing state support or a real job to help you realize theories of marxist leninism,requisites for proselytising are phones computers paper means to travel distribute pamphlets,I E money go out and earn it
>>717171557 The problem is that america spent the last 50 years brainwashing it's people into capitalist drones. Even most lefties are capitalists now. If you look at cuba or russia, it was mostly a natural process. Then america decided to fuck up everything. We put sanctions on cuba making the growing period near impossible (though cuba still had universal healthcare and high literacy). The problem with russia was everybody trying to fuck it up. First the nazis then the west.
>>717170800 What do you mean only one country? It's failed pretty much where ever it goes, China is pretty much all totalitarian while somewhat trying to fit some communist ideals into it. Cuba is a fucking pigpen with huge amounts of poverty.
We will have a system take over capitalism very soon this millennium don't worry (most likely some form of technocracy). Communism just isnt it, human greed has always and will always shit on the system its also why almost all socialist policies end the same way.
Went to a few meetings of the local branch of the CPUSA in my city. I pretended to be a university student and got some free rides to rallies in Chicago. I also affiliated myself with the YDS and got to go to a protest in Washington, D.C., on scholarship.
Still a pretty liberal guy, but nowhere near as radical. I've traveled a lot and seen how shitty life is in a lot of other countries. I've also changed my mind about Muslims, who I always used to defend.
>>717172310 but technology will lead to communism, for better or worse. When 99% of production is handled by robots (because it will eventually get cheaper, no matter how much you lower the minimum wage) so many people will be out of the work the government will have no choice but to support them.
>>717171785 No. That just means that even fewer people have more power over the money and resources of hundreds of millions of people. It's also kind of difficult to understand how a government could be 1000x smaller while controlling all of the countries money by determining how much people get if any at all.
>>717173132 But he still has a point. The fewer people in government, the more power they have individualally. Why would you want only a very small amount of people to decide how money is distributed? Yea in capitalism the 1% has a large majority of the wealth but people can still work for companies that are not part of that group and still make a decent amount.
>>717173579 Apologies for thinking you fags were the same person my bad. I still stand with my argument, it's ridiculous to think that the USA would wash communistic ideas from history so we could never practice it. You think all the higher ups in the government agreed to wash away the success of communism? Please enlighten me on how they succeed at doing that.
>>717174097 That's why I said people can work for companies that pay a decent amount. Not every basic job starts off at 7.25 an hour. You do know you can take a few safety classes to be certified in numerous fields of work like laying fiber optic cables. Some of those companies will start you out at 18 an hour. Understand that in America there are so many different types of opportunities that most people like you don't know about.
>>717171339 San Fransisco is full of rich hipsters and old hippies and veteran gays who manage to make enough money to weather the storm of normies from flatlander no wheres town that keep hitting us every few years.
>please don't come, we don't need more kids who take of affordable housing that native family's need.
Berkley has a few communists, a few oldschool types that were real rabble rouses in the 70's are still alive working as lawyers. there are also a few charities that operate under that commie free food and services umbrella, but are funded very poorly.
>>717174396 Not what I said. Nobody washed away the success of communism, the US government undermined communism in many ways, why do you think we sanctioned cuba? to stunt it's growth and make communism seem impossible. Why do you think we called them "godless commies"? To spread fear. Why do you think we killed Che and tried to assassinate Castro hundreds of times? If human rights abuses were it we would not be allies with saudi arabia. The US did this because communism was a threat to capitalists. It was only natural for them to fight back.
>>717174515 The red scare was to propaganda to make citizens scared of communism with a good reason. I can agree that it did get out of hand, but people wised up and realized theres nothing to be terrified of communism for other then it being a poorly designed political system, think about John McCarthy. Crazy ass man who thought most of the USA were communist spies until the public found out he was crying wolf and there was nothing to be afraid of. The problem is not that the red scare made citizens terrified of practicing communism but rather, realize that if communism would come to America it would bring our own destruction.
>>717175322 The United States of Fucking America you communist bastard. I wouldn't expect you to understand anything but calling us burgers since McDonalds is the only name brand company you russian fuckers know of.
Name one JUST ONE Communist society that is a good one and I'll fucking commit to the communist regime. Just one.
>>717175158 I realize where you are coming from but most of your points are coming from basic ways the USA and other countries operates war, using propaganda. Take a look around through history because the US didn't only have slang for the Communists but practically everyone we've been at war with. We had the Japs, Commies, Krauts and now pakies for the Middle East. That goes both ways as well, just look online at some of Russia's propaganda posters. We sanctioned off Cuba for having ties to communism yes but they were also threatining to launch nukes into California.
>>717175684 Already have. Can't get the idea that society will selflessly do things for everyone in it due to human beings natural drive to want what others have if not more. That's why the communist countries, that communists in America try to say isn't truly communist like Cuba, North Korea and other select countries, keep their citizens in realitively poverous conditions so that even if they wanted to have more they can't.
>>717176186 >We sanctioned off Cuba for having ties to communism yes but they were also threatining to launch nukes into California. We sanctioned cube in 1958 and extended it twice in 1960 and 1962. The cuban missle crisis was in 1962. So the sanctions were not due to this.
As for the rest of your argument, I agree. This is how america fights wars. The main difference is the krauts were killing millions and invading countries. The commies were not. Their was never a threat of russia taking over america, the real threat was the people choosing communism.
>>717176268 At least we get the privalge to vote the POTUS who was elected by the people. If you think trump is bad why don't you go look up Hillary's no fly zones she wanted to set up in Europe so desperately that would have put us at war with Russia. Oh and that 50% number you pulled out your ass, do you think that losing 20 million civilians during WW2 due to Russia not being able to take care of its own people a success? You're the real fucking idiot.
>>717176948 >Their was never a threat of russia taking over america,
The Soviet threat to Europe was very real, and they were so desperate to keep their citizens from leaving the ComBloc that the Berlin Wall was built so escapees could be (and frequently were) shot more easily. Soviet and Maoist international military operations were no joke. In pursuit of global power Moscow was prepared to nuke the US, England, and the rest of NATO.
>>717168555 dont worry. in about 20 years the US will be forced to convert to communism
>intentionally trying to eradicate all jobs with robots >not controlling birth rate and allowing stupid people to spit out 8 kids then make reality tv shows about it encouraging other idiots to spit out kids with hope of getting own reality show >putting almost the entire government budget into military, so only military jobs open up, yet treating military vets like garbage and leaving them on their ass once their service is up
anyone that doesnt see this coming is a fucking idiot. theres literally no other outcome at this point. an entire country that bases its citizens liveliship on consumerism, yet not on ensuring they have a livelihood. theyre already discussing a supplemented income program that works like permanent unemployment. eventually unemployment rates are gonna be so high theyll have no choice but to switch to communism like economics
>>717176863 We do not burn Jews or any one else as punishment for being who they are. We are no longer going to have our right to firearms be infringed upon like it was in nazi Germany, instead of persecuting and killing innocent Muslims for being Muslims we will ban them entirely from entering the country illegally and only allow the ones that have a genuine interest to integrate into American society. This does not sound like nazi Germany.
>>717177650 Eventually everyone is going to end up working for Uber. And then Uber is going to fire all its drivers for self driving cars. The entire transportation industry is about to collapse. This country is so unbelievably fucked and there's no safety net in place for when it comes
>>717178027 USA--how many indians, negroes and latinos have died? How many homeless, living in cars or on the street? Shelters are overfilled every night. Students buried in debt, just to be educated. You work decades to make banks even richer. To "buy" a house you get a mortgage. Again, you're working to pay a damn bank. How many oil companies have stripped a poor nation of its resources? They don't compensate the country, and they import foreign labor.
>>717177759 >>717177759 >>717177759 The president is elected by the people you pigfuck we have appointed political persons who make the electoral college vote for president and THOSE PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED BY BEING VOTED FOR. I won't fight you over the fact that they took back Berlin but all they did was take back the land they had lost, its not like they were sticking their neck out for America by doing it why would this even be a point you would make? Also I must have forgot that the staggering death count was just because of the Nazis. Stupid me.
>>717178811 Plenty of Indians, Niggers, and Spicks have died, for a good cause and they will be remembered as our foundation. Plenty of homeless people on the streets, how about the millions of farmers stalin evicted and forcefully put on the streets with out shelter, food, or hospitalization? Students paying for a higher education, don't hear about people going to china for college. I work decades to provide for my family, country, and people. Houses are expensive, we pay workers more than 2$ an hour. Banks are expensive, they protect your money with large vaults, guards, and software. Saudi Arabia, definitely stripping them of all resources and they are not flourishing since we started BUYING their oil. Don't talk to me about importing forein labor, that's retarded. We can just hire communist china to do it for us since they only pay their communist employees 11 cents a day. Please go on, I think you're winning.
The bigger the human population gets, the more likely all first world civilizations will have to convert to socialism. Its impossible to keep society functioning based on the current model. There simply wont be enough jobs to go around and the government cant just say 'oh well youll have to starve to death'
>cant get married without government permission >cant drive without government permission and continually paying them money >cant do anything without paying the government >cant own property without government permission >cant take a piss anywhere you want without risk of sex offender list >cant drink or smoke in public >any substance the government deems illegal puts you in jail >cant board an airplane without a massively invasive search >forced to register to join the army when you turn 18 >cant vote without also being registered for jury duty which you will be punished for not attending
and of course your entire life is 100% governed by money. no money = no food/shelter
>>717178811 So, corruption can invade any economical system. Great, such wonderful new news! Communism is prone to similar pitfalls, only with more safeguards for the people controlling and diving up the money (until a revolt, but you could revolt within capitalism by starting your own business tho it'd be a long shot).
>>717170936 Communism is almost like a principle rather than an economic system. The Soviets saw communism as a vehicle towards Socialism and a stateless Utopia. But Socialism and Communism is not one in the same, especially considering the development of "the third way" in the late 90s and early 2000's. However, "the third way" only made the all ready present difference between Communism and Socialism more evident and instead off redefining the systems.
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