>>717139240 It's not like he had any choice; the only reason America decided to go into the war was because Germany was becoming economically dominant in Europe; it wasn't because of "MUH JEWS" or anything like that, otherwise they would have entered the war years earlier.
>>717138966 the most likely result would be the US becomes a semi-autonomous puppet state similar to Vichy France Japan was more like the PRC in that they were only interested in controlling east Asia and Germany dgaf about gaining territory after they recovered all the "traditionally" German territories in Europe Denmark, Norway, Vichy France, and several Balkan states are always shown on maps of Europe during WW2 as being part of Germany, but they all had varying degrees of autonomy depending on how complicit they were with aiding the German war effort if anything the Axis powers would have divided the US and Canada into 3 to 8 different puppet states
Negroids would be relegated to the beast of burden/pet role. Jews eliminated. Females would serve as mothers and homemakers. Hispanics would be south of the border. Liberals would be used to make soap and culturally the US would be immeasurably superior than its current negroid/jew led malaise.
In short, other USA would be far superior in every respect to what it is today.
>>717140071 No I actually do you retarded nigger Bombs up until missile delivery systems were carried on airplanes - usually large ones In order to drop a massive fucking nuclear weapon onto an important city, a country should either already have demolished any potential anti-aircraft and any fighters that may intercept the large carrier Also what is radar stupid nigger?
>>717140033 > if anything the Axis powers would have divided the US and Canada into 3 to 8 different puppet states
that would require a mainland invasion of the US, which quite frankly, doesn't seem feasible logistically then. even now, with china's population of 1 billion, it would seem extremely difficult to do (get an army of millions, tanks, planes, ships to carry them across the pacific without getting sunk, all kinds of arms and weaponry, then supply them during the invasion... the whole time expect bombs to be rained on, and the advancing army to get shot and depleted)
a separate peace seems more feasible (the kind hitler sought with britain)
>>717140515 This. This is why the bombing of Japan with nukes was such a tragedy. We had beaten them into a shell of their former self. Iwo Jima was their last stand. And then we nuked them. 40 years later, the Japanese loved us again. Got to admire that ability for forgiveness. Buddhism bros.
>>717141460 and Japan had used their ambassadors to the Soviet Union to offer a conditional surrender to the US but Japan would not relinquish the Emperor and Roosevelt and Truman wanted to send a message to the USSR that we will destroy the very land our enemy lives in if they do not bow to our will
>>717141468 Yeah but the Japs tried but all they could fucking do was just occupying the coastal areas of china . They focus on SEA after realising they have difficulty In setting foot into the interior of china
>>717142205 Japan had difficulties in mainland China because the US was providing war material, training, and pilots to one of the Chinese rebel factions that was a main cause of Japan attacking the US they held off bc we were providing them with oil and coal but when we put an embargo on those items bc of Japan's invasion of China the Japs just said fuck it
>>717139240 Um no. The US being the warmongers we are, joined the war for no real reason.
Look it up, I forget the operation name, but we had a nine-step plan to provoke Japan into attacking us. We didn't know it was going to be Pearl harbor specifically, but the plan worked, they're attacked, and we're in the fight.
>>717142849 Not the dude you replied to but; Hitler did fuck himself by declaring war on the US. The US was indeed a very interventionist state, but Hitler could have delayed full US cooperation had he not literally denounce everything related to the US leading up to 1940's Also we went into the war to establish a world-wide police state and it has worked up until now
>>717144184 Actually without the whole "everyone get's back their countries" shit the 20th century would have been near constant attempted rebellions and terrorism. Hell most of the terrorism today is due mostly to the formation of israel, so imagine muslims and the IRA except all of europe and asia was doing that shit. Not to mention how lucky we were nuclear war never erupted, i don't think fascist ideologies would be so accidentally effective.
>>717142849 >>717139240 I don't know of the 9 step plan, but I do know the ABC talks (America Britain Canada) where the game plan was once America committed to the war (no one knew it would be pearl harbor, but still) they would wipe out Germany and Italy first, then fight the war on Japan. Hitler was fucked by Japan. Otherwise by the time America got their ass in gear, the Germans could be mass producing Jets and V2's and probably roll over us
>>717144849 I am curious as to how those would play out in hyper-fascist states The concept of (((mercy))) would not have existed so I can easily see the ruling countries decimating entire cities of rebels within a moment's notice
>>717145326 Germany could never "defeat" the US without defeating the USSR We could easily force them into a sort of "natural resource" collapse. German machinery and vehicles would simply be useless without Soviet and American oil and Germany did not possess any legitimate trading partners to find it elsewhere
>>717141460 Bull fuckin shit.My old man was setting in a jungle wiping mold and blood off his M1 carbine on Okinawa when his c.o. told them to fill out their wills(at20 yrs old) because they were parachuting onto batshit crazy mainland japan in a few weeks. Lo and behold,two big momma bombs got dropped.and viola,we're all going home...I'm alive today because of the bomb....and Russia said fuck it all these years after they realized how hair trigger we are...learn to love the bomb...
>>717138966 Pretty much the same as now, but will less debt rebuilding Japan that we btfo. Winning the war has nothing to do with conquering our homeland. They didn't have the forces needed to do that. Hell, they couldn't even take Europe.
>>717138966 After the Germans defeated us with the help of Japan, Hitler would've tried to cut them out like he did Russia. If (and that's a big if after how bad of shape Germany was at this point in the war) they were able to take down Japan, the whole world would be speaking German, much less the US >>717139240 Lmfao >implying Russia didn't do all the legwork and we just so happened to show up at the end to take credit
>>717141460 has less to do with Buddhism and more to do with Japan being our buffer state between communism and the U.S. Japan was an example of why capitalism was great, and also served as the primary target for Asian communists to attack instead of mainland U.S.
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