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Alright /b/ros, IF Trump loses, how will you prepare for post-american

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Alright /b/ros,

IF Trump loses, how will you prepare for post-american life?

I've been thinking about it for a while, but the media onslaught is taking its toll on my morale. So now I've decided to actually plan out how i'll prepare for my family's future if the nation allows another president that promises to keep us on the same path we've been on since the sixties.

I'm thinking of sinking safes in the ground on my various properties and filling them with essentials that would be hard to acquire in times of government lockdown, mainly guns and ammo, long shelf-life batteries, communication gear, etc.

Anybody else put any thought into this? I welcome all ideas that might allow me and my family to survive the coming violence with our values and morals intact
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>>699732679
you're a violent gun idolater, you have neither values nor morals.
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>>699732679
Check out my youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxPtKNkwEQ
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>>699732679
lol wow this is a funny meme! haha
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>>699732874
You're trying your best to live the liberal fantasy that all cultures are compatible and that violence is not inherent in humab nature. But, like anything struggling against its nature, you are slated for destruction
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>>699733138
Awww yeah, tell 'em Nietsche Jr.
My nigga NJ here just laying down some hard truths, kna me?
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>>699733368
I don't understand many of your words, but the tone makes me think you're on my side...

But cmon, where all the apocalypse /b/ros at?
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>>699732679
IF Trump loses the only thing you will be able to do is kill your children.

Better a quick bullet to the brain than your kids starving fighting for Michelle Obama's scraps at Killary's FEMA reeducation camp
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Assange is waiting until October to release the remaining Clinton dirt.

The Dems will not have time to get another candidate on the ballot.

There is no way Trump will lose, why bother wasting time on the notion.
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>>699732679
>>699733632

Trump wont lose but I agree. IF he were to lose the only moral thing would be to kill your children.
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Actually, if Clinton comes to rule, your guns would be criminalized, and you'll have to give them out. Batteries have a lifetime: they lose ~15% of total charge capacity yearly even w\o use(in cold even more). Rations are ok, but you will not need them in a lot.
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If Hilary wins we continue on a steady decline as a country just like putting shittier and shittier tape on something you don't know how to fix til it eventually breaks. . If Trump wins we go on a sharp decline and it's like saying fuck tape let's just take it apart and poke around and then not putting it back together cuz it's impossible.

Either way shitty results, even if I could legally vote I'd pass.
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Trump doesn't know what makes America great. He wants to go back to the 1950s mentality.
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>>699732679
Lol Hillary wins that country gonna lose half its pop, either cause they jump ship or that crazy bitch gonna get them nuked..
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>>699733522
people here don't plan
they're here to fap and everyone else is here to spam their propaganda. aka shilllfags
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>>699734064
Nah, more likely scenario is that nothing will fucking happen, just like with every fucking election everywhere for the last hundred fucking years.
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>>699733925
False Fox News claim that she wants to criminalize guns.
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>>699733138
he could actually beleive those thngs but not believe that a massive civil war or anything like it is either likely or inevitable. We will not be living an post america, we will continue to live in America.

trump is unamerican. trump is anti american. trump is Putin's bitch, determined to reduce our military, close bases around the world, reduce our power and influence, renege on our promises to allies, and let Putin expand his power and do as he wants.
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>>699734248
N you believe Fox News....lul
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>>699733632
better still, kill your children and yourself now, because you are obviously genetically unfit to live and breed.
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>>699733736
well he hasn't managed to release any real dirt so far - what makes you think he will find anything important? (dnc emails - pathetic nonsense - pay to play? please - shit tier smear campaign)
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>>699733632
Suicide is an option, but only after losing everything else, and then it'd be a suicide *mission*

>>699733736
>>699733863
Hopefully so, but i manage risk for a living, which means i advise anyone who wants to think about it to have a contingency plan

>>699733991
>>699734210
And that's exactly the problem. Status quo is equivalent to destruction. All it takes is time
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>>699732874
this

Gas the jews.
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>>699734401
We are already living in post-America. The only thing left is to make it official by having a president literally wipe her ass with it. An outsider who hasn't made every dollar in his life peddling political bandaids and who is intent on disrupting the current government MO is our only hope.

There is no path forward without considerable pain, but at least one path leaves America intact
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>>699734650
Ok N.J., calm down.

We all saw Fight Club
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>>699734989
Shit
Edit: wiper her ass *with the constitution*
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>>699732679
Wow. I can see how you are a Trump supporter. Holy shit! Thanks for the laughs this morning, neckbeard.
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>>699735074
Look, typing on a phone is hard

And I'm fucking tired of finding storefronts
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>>699734989
what do you mean by "post america"

this is a nonsense phrase, empty of any meaning.

America has not changed - except in that its ideals of openness, freedom, acceptance of others, all races, religious freedom and equality, are under attack by Trump and his dead head republican base of bigots and tax avoiders.
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>>699732679
You sound like a fucking lunatic.
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>>699732679
If you seal Trump in a safe in your back yard he will be there is you need him.
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>>699735444
America is only America because of its Constitution. The Supreme Court has already crossed its boundaries set forth is the Constitution by actually changing laws rather than only pass judgement on their Constitutionality (I'm thinking specifically of Ohio's Obamacare law that was challeneged in the SCOTUS a couple years back). In that case, SCOTUS actually upheld the law, arguing that the lawmakers *meant* to write it one way when in fact they wrote it another. Laws must be explicit, and they must be interpretted according to how they're written, says the Constitution. But SCOTUS threw that out the window.

And now we have a presidential election where the next president may very well be able to skew the bench as much as 6-3. If Clinton and the status quo wins, the Constitution will see changes it hasn't witnessed in all of America's history
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>>699734210
this. some of you are so fucking dumb it's embarrassing.
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>>699736054
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_interpretation

please read this and come back better educated.

also, leave the tinfoil hat at the door, it is interfering with the wifi signal...
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>>699732679
A safe is a terrible way to keep things in the ground. If you already have the guns you want then I suggest the little stuff that keeps them running. First is cleaning supplies, go with the 2 rod sets per three firearms, just to have back ups. I currently go 1 set per 5 firearms but I can still buy them. I also suggest bore snakes for each weapon system, it's a quick way to get a basic clean. Have plenty of oil for those you use regularly, cosmoline for long term storage. That takes care of your maintenence needs, I personally google commonly broken items on my firearms and try to grab spares when I can. Magazines are another big issue, if you plan to bug out the rule of thumb is ten or so, those fuckers get heavy eventually. If you shelter in place make sure you have at least ten at each cache location. Ammo count is dependent on how often you plan to shoot. There are threads weekly on /k/ discussing this. Things I shoot daily tend to run low or out. So for that I suggest you learn to reload now, and stock up on components before they are illegal or tracked. It's a short term expense and long term savings. Also get two sets of dies for what you shoot and two presses, the back up doesn't have to be fancy. I place a heavy emphasis on the gun aspect because they will take a hit before food becomes scarce. Each cache should be able to sustain your group for at least three days to a week. I assume you have wells so won't discuss water. Start growing a garden. It's late in the summer but do the prep work for a fall garden now, high yield foods are good, coordinate with neighbors and group members to grow different crops for trading.
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>>699733632
If this is your mindset already, kill yourself first. Leave your children out of it you stupid fuck
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>>699736682
Never did i mention the SC interpreting the Constitution. I mentioned them interpreting state laws and deciding they knew what they lawmakers had in mind when they wrote it, as opposed to actually passing judgement on *what they wrote*.

It is in this respect that SCOTUS transitioned from interpretting the constitutionality of laws to actually changing them, which according to the Constitution is reserved for state legislatures.

Please respond with an argument rather than linking a Wikipedia page and insulting my intelligence.
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>>699737174
Interpretation of the law has always required judgement, not just a dictionary.

that is why judges do it, not english teachers.

the SC has not changed its approach, nor acted unconstitutionally.
I sent you the wikipedia link because it was obvious that you are ignorant and uninformed, even if you are highly intelligent
please learn to law.
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>>699736738
Finally, a /b/ro with something useful to say.

I certainly wouldnt put all my guns in those safes, but cleaning supplies would definitely be among their contents. And whatever container I'd use, it would be sealed with a few dessicant packs in there.

And yeah, i started growing vegetables and keeping chickens about a year ago, so that'll help.

Thanks for the input
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>>699737388
Find me another example in history when the SC said "We know the law is written in such a way that makes clear the state doesn't have to set up their own healthcare marketplace, but we think it was a mistake and the lawmakers meant to make it say otherwise"

It has never happened
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>>699737174
The constitution literally doesn't apply to the SC. It's their JOB to interpret it.
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>>699737388
Why do you think the addition or subtraction of a single word of a bill has to go back through the entire process of being voted on by both houses of Congress? It's because when the courts interpret it, they must do so according to how it's written
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>>699738113
How does the document that gives a body authority not apply to that body?
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>>699732679
Stockpiling shit because you're afraid it will be made illegal has 2 implicit potential consequences:
- Your cache will be discovered and buttraep'd by the administration you're trying to buck
- You will use your cache and be buttraep'd by the administration you're trying to buck
The alternative of course is in a SHTF scenario your neighbors will betray you and come string you up for your shiny stockpile of gold and weapons.

I was a contractor in Afghanistan when the whole 'blackwater killing kids for fun' thing went down. They took away all our weapons shortly thereafter if your job wasn't directly related to securing a facility of some kind. I didn't really worry much. Why?

Put simply: if it ever gets to the point where I needed a gun for a persistent life or death lifestyle, they'll either be lying around often enough, or easy enough to get. If the perimeter of my FOB was compromised, there would be ample dead dudes already for me to scavenge enough for a valiant last stand.
Hoarding shit makes you at best a target of opportunity for looters, at worst a target of the state. Buy a cheap bolt action and wait for the first tacticool mallcop nigger or $insert_fascist_goon with a select-fire AR and pop him from a hundred yards. Then take his shit. Or wait until your neighbor with the sweet cache goes to sleep and then pop him and take his shit. If rule of law ever dissolves I'll be forgoing human decency until I can get far enough innawoods.

As far as trump goes, I think the smart money is on marrying a foreigner and having a second passport as a possible escape route. It does tickle me that my retirement savings will be forever tied up in dollars and at risk should anyone catastrophically fuck things up.
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>>699733991
>If Trump wins we go on a sharp decline
Sharp decline from what?
Trump has made it clear for a long time that he's not a war monger.
Hillary will try to beat her husband's bombing record. We'll be more hated than ever around the world.
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>>699737614
There was a guy on /k/ who showed his long term storage method amd it was brilliant. I can't find the guide he made but I'll keep digging through folders to find it.
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>>699738169
no it is because the aim is to make the law as clear as possible so that it does not need interpretation, but given the infintie flexibility of language and the huge volume of hard cases, no law is perfect. which is why there is such a thing as common law and precedent ad judicial interpretation.

for example - the current interpretation of the 2nd amendment relies on a disconnect between the passage about the need for a well regulated militia and the right to bear arms - and an interpretation that bearing arms means owning arms. this is not a dictionary interpretation, it is a judicial one, and it may (and probably should) be overturned. The law is clearly written that it is in order to ensure that there is a well regulated militia that every american citizen has the right to join that militia (not to own weapons) in contrast to pre revolutionary times when certain classes of people were prohibited from joining the army or militia.

see - same words, two interpretations, both clear and both valid - only one currently upheld by judgement. But that may change (and I hope it will)
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>>699738657
You must watch a lot of movies, kid.
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>>699738657
All good points. I have this fantasy in my head that I'll be able to band together with my neighbors, but that's highly unrealistic. And i see your point about being a target, but that's why you pay cash and bury everything behind high fences!

It sounds like you're on your own, though, which definitely increase your chances of survival. Me, i got a pregnant wife due right about election time. Fun!
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Here's a tip. Don't rely on GPS for caches or whatnot.
When Hillary starts war with China, Russia, and Iran, it will mean open-season on our GPS satellites.
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>>699739072
I agree with everything you just said, but what I'm referring to is the SC deciding to ignore words in a *state* law, not the Constitution. Goddamnit, now I'm going to have to find this on my phone, gimme a sec
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>>699738657
>As far as trump goes, I think the smart money is on marrying a foreigner and having a second passport as a possible escape route
i'm going to merikah and finding some retarded feminazi bitch to wed bcus i'm that lonely.
hopefully trump wins nd she can lives with the mes
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>>699738657
Excellent point based anon!
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>>699739181
Wow, good luck to you then. If or if not shit hits the fan :P
I mean, we all prepare in our own ways, but I think we secretly hope (and know) that the slow burn will continue rather than any sort of transformative event.

I gave up caring about democracy a long time ago and focused on amassing capital, since a dollar tends to be more effective than a vote when it comes to influencing public opinion or political goings on.
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>>699738919
Eagerly awaiting your success
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>>699738839
economic decline.

you know, millions out of work while the billionaires get a tax break and spend it on fifth homes in the south of France.
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>>699732679
The Clinton's prefer a criminal perjurer for Attorney General.
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>>699739485
Precisely! Well said!

But it's the escape that I'm looking to solidify. Already diversified my assets between land, guns, bitcoin, and equity securites. Now i need to ensure i can escape the masses to be able to use them
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>>699732679
probably I'll move in with my black muslim boyfriend
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>>699732968
Lol
>You ask the people what they're lookin' for in florida and they're gonna tell you "jobs"
>Now Donald Trump. He wants to get people jobs.
>So I'm gonna say it looks like Trump'll win Florida.

Poor anon
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>>699739529
as if shillary wont do the same thing?
are you retarded or something?
they're all the same slaves to the same establishment.
at least trump has the balls to call it for what it is.
not like he will ever be able to change anything about it though.
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>>699739529
You're not making sense. Trump will tend to de-regulate to an extent, freeing up the market. On the other hand, Hillary will grow government bigger than ever on a colossal welfare ticket. She has said that she plans to give $5000 bonds to every baby born.
You wanna talk tanking the economy?
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>>699739777
Bill hired Hillary's mentor and law partner Webb Hubbell as his Associate Attorney General.

He's a felon too! Only the best for those Clinton's.

Bonus points: Webb may be the biological father of Chelsea.
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>>699732968
"The three states that I would focus on if I were trump are Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin"
>Three
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>>699739793
I'd exit bitcoin in favor of something like silver. There's pretty significant indications the the integrity of the currency is on shaky ground with the advent of large ASIC mining shops.

It's always been my thought that the triumvirate of currency in a post-society scenario would be something like:
-Ammunition
-Opiates/Pain Killers
-Antibiotics

Unfortunately it's only legal to stockpile 2 of those :P

I was able to get a way out via my Fiancee who has a grandfather of Italian origin. Italy is one of the few places that lets you claim blood citizenship as far back as 2 generations if you can prove your lineage. Not to say Italy is a paradise of justice and equality, but it does get you EU work permission and permanent residency. Plus Sardinia is nice this time of year :)
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>>699740227
She does look like Webb
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>>699732968
So basically, what you're telling us is, if Trump can win the battleground states, it's a sure win. And that he has to ignore historical blue states like New York and California? Mind blown.
Brilliant video, dude.
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>>699739529
Clinton deputy National Security Advisor was also a felon; alas he has shuffled off this mortal coil.

Sandy got caught stealing classified material from the National Archives in his sock! Now that is some style.
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>>699740356
Sure buddy.
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>>699740356
She looks just like Bill, amirite?
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>>699734650
This guy sucks
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>>699732679
>Redneck retard believes the sky will fall if trump isnt elected
It wont, but that shouldnt stop you from buying your survival gear if that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy
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>>699740012
no hillary is not planning to give a huge tax break to billionaires.

Trump does not have balls or brains - his calling it like it is is bullshit - he wants to do trickledown economics all over again - the same voodoo economics that Regan and Bush used. the same bullshit - make it easier to exploit workers and give billionaires more money and the economy will grow and it will be better for all. except the exploited workers and the middle classes who have to pay for the yuuge tax break for the billionaires.
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>>699732679
>trumpster fantasies

you're delusional. this country is great and getting better, faggot. fuck off

can't wait to see you antisocial justice warriors chimp out and burn your trailers in november.
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>>699739529
>>699736682
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>>699734444
>>699734021
>>699732874
Hillary will be tough on the banks. That's why they pay her so much. Because, you know, banks like to give away money for nothing.
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The jew is terrified of the prospect of tossing out millions of Mexican criminals. They've worked very hard scooting them in here. Hillary is pretty much their last hope, next to JFK'ing Trump mossad style.
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>>699740048
de regulation will free upthe market - and the market cares so much about you that it will give you jobs,,, yeah.

how will giving bonds to kids tank the economy - look up the concept of helicopter money - better way to kickstart the economy than giving billionaires a tax break and handing more money over to the banks...
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>>699738260
because they have to interpret it. why is this hard to understand?
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>>699739181
yeah we're never going to all agree on the exact moment it's time for armed rebellion. that's why your faggot fantasies are never going to come true.
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>>699732679
Man you sure have put on your tinfoil hat if you think trump will keep you safe. That and the last attack from a forigen nation was almost a hundred years ago.
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>>699737174
You basically wanted a law you didn't like get thrown out on a technicality, and now you're butthurt about it and think you know how the legal system works better than a supreme justice does.
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>>699741081
You are literally a fucking retard. And haven't done a lick of research. Go back to youtube comments.
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>>699741236
Your economics sounds like it was taught to you by a typical leftist university kike.
History shows that with less regulation, controls and taxation, comes more investment, innovation, and prosperity.
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>>699741455
If there was the right happening, it could become a reality.
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>>699739504
No joy. I suggest asking on k about the guy who long term stored a weapon under a tree. Someone else might have it or the op might show up.
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>>699741467
You were attacked by Saudi Arabia fifteen years ago, nigger.
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>>699741571
never gonna happen. no one will ever agree. we can't agree on much simpler shit. the best you can hope for is a waco sized group but in reality you'll get a shit tier group like those idiots in oregon.
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>>699741455
>>699741571
It would have to be something that made everyone across the board unhappy.
If the creature comforts were affected, or if the economy took a major shit.


Or if they tried a gun confiscation.
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>>699734248
There's only one reason to want another AWB when ARs are used in less than 1% of all gun crime. And that's a stepping stone for more useless bans and eventual all out banning and confiscation. And she is on record saying another AWB is one of the first things she wants to do as president. The first one cause a rise in violent crime and saved no lives. There's literally no other reason to do it.
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>>699732679
One problem.. If the government has put your ass on lockdown then how do you suppose that you'll be able to safely travel to these various locations?
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>>699741610
911 was funded by saudis but done by a terrorist organization. Why didn't we go to war with the saudis then?
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>>699732679
Nothing is actually going to change. She's not going to take your guns or impose martial law. She represents the status quo that corporations want to maintain. Stop listening to fear mongering conservatives.
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>>699741702
> gun confiscation.

that will never happen. that's silly.

as for the other stuff, still wouldn't happen. we've been through terrible times in this country and it never even was hinted at.

if the government someone totally became filled with anti-american interests, even and especially the military then maybe.

but if that's the case you're fucked anyway.
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>>699741172
Its worth it to the banks just to avoid the economic catastrophe it would be to end NAFTA and impose tariffs on our trading partners as Trump proposes.
And dont think for a second that tarriffs and abandoning trade agreements will bring back manufacturing jobs to the US. It is automation and a global economy that has killed the middle class factory job...and NAFTA just redirected those jobs that we would have lost to China to Mexico instead. The age of the middle class factory worker in our country is over, we are now an advanced economy...you'd better be educated or you will be flipping burgers...
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>>699741896
who wants those shitty manufacturing jobs anyway. in ten years, maybe less, manufacturing won't even look the same any more. let china keep their factories, fuck it.

we need to look to the future jobs, not the past ones.
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>>699741896
Heh. Im an electrician and im doing better than all of my college educated friends. Have fun with massive debt, dumbass.
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>>699741775
Because America was too scared of what they could do to the economy?
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>>699741610
>Saudis
Good lad. Just make sure you never implicate israeli's or you won't get a biscuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKj6uJ5Mt4
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OP, how did the right wing get filled with so many fucking cowards? you fucking pussies belong in the left.

what happened to personal responsibility too? saviors of the working class used to be a pipe dream of the left. fix your own shit life.

cowards and freeloaders now fill the right.

fuck, are we experiencing another shift of parties?
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>>699742041
Good for you, bruh, you are an anomaly, not the norm tho
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>>699742127
Oh so the Iraq war didn't do anything to the economy then? The wrong guys even. Point is, op
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>>699741803
Nothing changing means the continued gradual decline of the culture that made America the greatest nation on earth.
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>>699739485
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>>699740302
I have a crazy uncle who eight years ago would talk exactly like these anons. He lives in panama now with no money and no friends.
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>>699741092
Clinton stooge Mark Penn recognized in the mid 90's the potential of online astroturfing, i.e paying people to shill online. After helping organize MoveOn.org to distract the population from Bill's bimbo and impeachment troubles, Mark went on to become CEO of Burson-Marsteller, a PR firm who's specialty is 'Reputation Management'. Yes, this means paying shills to post supporetive comments online on an industrial scale.

Steve Ballmer hired Mark away from Burson to work for Microsoft, where he came up with the anti-Google Scroogled campaign. Besides the crappy Scroogled TV ads, this involved - you got it - paying shills to post online.

Guess what Mark is doing these days?
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>>699742399
War opportunism made America the most powerful. We were never all that great.
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>>699741548
You do know that most economics departments are now infested with neo-liberal free market Hyeck and friedman ites - yes, kikes, but right wing free market kikes.

you do know that was why we had the great crash of 2008 - because economics has lost its way and gone right wing and against regulation and progressive taxation

you do know that every time the trickle down theory is used the economy tanks while the rich get richer?

you do know that . but you are on the side of the rich, maybe you are rich, maybe you are spreading these lies because you see that Trump will make you richer, while the poor and the middle class get screwed.
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>>699742399
shut the fuck up. we're getting better and better. clinging to some bullshit pre-internet time period is dumb. the world has changed. you cannot go backwards to some pretend time. fix yuor own fucking life, make a path in this new world or fucking kill yourself.
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>>699741092
underrated post.
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>>699741705
you are right - there should be a handgun ban. that would be an effective way to stop crime. glad you agree.
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>>699742498
fuck yu too joker, no one is paying anyone to post on this shit hole site where a post lasts 30 minutes at most. you're dumb if you think anyone is.
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>>699741092
>>699735444
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>>699732679
You're just storing resources for the guy who is going to end up killing you.
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>>699742627

>Better and better

Found the 13 year old.
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>>699742041
In the long term on average they will do better than you in raw numbers of dollars. but you will do better for the first ten years, and have pride in your work, and if you are smart you will invest some of that surplus and build a business and retire early. you may never be a millionaire, but you won't be a corporate slave and burn out. Personally, I think you have chosen the better life. Good luck bro.
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>>699735444
yes there is only way to achieve this and it's the dirty heart at the base of what trump desires: get rid of the internet.

or at least neuter it enough to make it nothing but an advertising platform - which it's close to becoming anyway.

plus trump signed the anti-porn pledge, which is teh first tier, the low hanging fruit, for affecting content on the internet.
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>>699741896
That would be a nice story, except the donations in the graphic were long before Trump entered the presidential race.

Felons Charlie Trie and Johnny Chung directed many millions from the Chinese government too the Clinton's. What do you think they were buying?
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>>699742683
Gun bans don't accomplish anything but making criminals out of law abiding citizens. Plus there's statistical evidence that guns are used way more defensively than they are in murders. There is no evidence to support banning guns. It's the criminals we should focus on. And better mental screenings for legal purchases. But that's not gonna fly because if someone like Hillary is in charge of that list then every current legal gun owner will just be deemed unfit and that's game over.
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>>699741510
You're right he doesn't want trickle down economics. That would imply tax cuts for billionaires.

He wants tax cuts for everyone across the board.

Tax cuts the US government has no means to pay for.

He is literally promising you something he would never be able to do as president.

In a very classic trump move, he is lying to his own supporters.
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>>699742492
yeah because Obama caused the end of the world, took all the guns, turned us all muslim and stopped the Superbowl.

eight years time when people are looking back at the second term for hillary and an Democrat congress and senate that actually did stuff instead of trying to break the government the way the Repubs have done, will there still be idiots like OP? Or will they all vote democrat all the way down the ticket and keep America Progressing
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>>699742942
Thanks anon.

Im working on applying for my electrical license as we speak.

Im also starting a seperate business flipping houses with some friends of mine

Couple that with the fact that i bought a run down duplex 15 min away from philly, and i think i should be able to make something happen.
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>>699743079
who cares? fearing people with guns is just as silly as fearing muslims or mexicans.

the chances of you getting killed by any of them is so low as to have statistically a zero chance of it happening.
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>>699743246
So we don't need to ban guns. Cool. Glad you agree.
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>>699742498
not paying me... and I posted five of the oes you mentioned..

lol, conspiracy creeps.

Of course it is true that Putin is paying to have shills on /b/ - last mnight they were out in force but got busted because they were all int he one thread using the same playbook posts - flurries of Back to the future memes and calling people dumb nigger, or hypocrite, or posting lies about what was int he DNC emails. it was funny to watch.
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>>699732679
Just stay in Russia, Putin poster.
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>>699743338
i do agree, yes, but i'm not the same guy you were arguing with.
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>>699733925
What about lithium ions?
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>>699742741
>>699743047
>>699742235
>>699741896
>>699741081
Hillary pressed for and secured the appointment of 'business expert' Rajiv Fernando to a Federal advisory panel on nuclear arms. He happened to be a large CGI donor with no expertise in the nuclear field.

But Hillary would never be involved in influence peddling, nosiree.
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>>699743382
>Putin is paying shills...
Funny all I see on here are cucks promoting that Marxist hag.
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>>699732679
Not much ever changes, good or bad, so I think I will just live the way I do now. Just a bit more angry as SJWs get their way more and more.
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>>699732874
first post in and its this stupid.
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>>699732874
And you are a faggot.
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>>699743079
I would like to see the staistical evidence. I have seen lots of evidence about how often hand guns are used in suicide, murder suicide, murder, accidental killing, accidental killing of children, accidental killing by children, road rage killings and of course crime. I have seen evidence that shows these are all more likely if guns are easily available (ranging from 40 to 100 times more likely per capita in US as opposed to UK where hand guns are limited to gunclubs for competition shooting)

but hey, show me the evidence that banning guns does not accomplish anything (except in the UK, Australia, and all the other countries that banned guns)

I am sure it will make interesting reading, along with the paranoid fantasy stuff about Hillary...
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>>699732679
Moving out of the country to a developing nation with stronger industrial, agricultural, and educational output. One with 5-7% GDP growth, with expected continued growth.
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>>699734210
Fucking this. Things happen, but its never major (at least as a direct result to who the president is)
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>>699743382
The Clinton's would never stoop to online shills. That meme is just part of the vast right wing conspiracy, amirite?

Mr. Brock and Barrier Breakers 2016 is far above this type of activity.
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>>699742235
This is so true. Even as early as 8 years ago virtually all the bitching came from the left.

Now the only people you hear complain or throw tantrums are the right. Conservative values are supposed to be about strength and modesty cased in honor and tradition. It's getting harder and harder to find that in the republican party. Just a bunch of babies crying about their feelings now.

I've actually felt bad for Ryan and Mccain and Romney having to deal with what their party has become in the last five or so years.
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>>699743747
The media doesn't report positive effects of arms, because virtually all media is very tightly controlled by a small group who aims to disarm the people, step by step.
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>>699743246
>to have statistically a zero chance of it happening.

you do not understand what this means do you?

it means that no one will ever be killed by a gun. which given the ten thousand a year death rate and thirty thousand a year gun injury rate in the US seems a little strange.

tell those forty thousand, and their families and friends, that there is zero chance of it happening.
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>>699735444
Wait till the hag lets in syrian refugees and were getting raped just as bad as sweden
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>>699732679
>IF

kek

Trump is toast, OP. He's been fucking up left and right and the Republicans can't even control him.
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>>699744020
Said the conspiracy nut
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>>699735444
exactly

Ausfag reporting in. Literally 90% of the posts in this thread so far have made no sense. Are all yanks as retarded as most of the people in this thread?
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>>699732679
>I'm thinking of sinking safes in the ground on my various properties and filling them with essentials that would be hard to acquire in times of government lockdown, mainly guns and ammo, long shelf-life batteries, communication gear, etc

This is now a you cringe you lose thread
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>>699744174
>If you think mass media of news and entertainment is tightly controlled, you're a conspiracy nut.
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>>699743947
I didn't say that - the clintons pay shill, sure. just probably not on /b/

I am not being paid - but I am a democrat supporter and tired of the lies and bullshit that trumpiesand republicans put up.

but last night, the russians were definitely here - it was not hive mind or syncronicity, it was a playbook being tested - and they got busted.

this afternoon they were trying a new tactic - small negative posts about trump and then equivocating between him and hillary. sor tof sure trump is a douche but hillary is no better (and maybe worse, who knows)?

and also Sure putin is horrible, but i prefer him to the Hag...

subtler, but easy to spot.
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>>699744314
no all Yanks are not edgy teenage faggots, anon from DU
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>>699744035
>no one will ever be killed by a gun

Lol youre fucking retarded. What about the hebdo attacks in france?

Remeber when the mudslimes tried it in texas? The terrorist killed no one before he was shot dead.

And you dont need a gun for mass killings. Just a box truck you fucking idiot

Jesus christ how can you be some dumb
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>>699743747
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/cnsnewscom-staff/more-guns-less-gun-violence-between-1993-and-2013
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>>699744368
you are

did you not get the point the first time or something?
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>>699743172
First black president followed by first female president and they're both gonna get 8 year terms when all is said and done. I don't know if these inbred republicans are ever gonna be able to recover from that.
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>>699744062
said the racist uninformed scumbag who likes loli and creepshot threads...

be you. go to alleppo. live there for a year. now ask why anyone would want to leave that place. must be because they are radical islamist rapist.

yeah.
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>>699741548
Deregulation benefits those who contribute to election campaigns. Everyone else must buy essentials on credit then made bankrupt with medical bills.
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>>699733138
so... fuck nature when It comes to exploiting it,but then "yeah...it's nature" when it comes to violence

nigga we are much,much bigger then nature.we can overcome desire,so we can overcome nature.
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>>699744314
many may not be yanks - the board has been infested with putin bots the last few days...
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>>699735025
you anon,are funny
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>>699743627
It always cracks me up that the people who call hilldogg out on her obscure shadiness don't also think Trump is shady as fuck.
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>>699743668
baby want his bottle?
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>>699744601
The Republicans are just going to do the same stupid shit they always go for:

Taking control of Congress

then anyone can be in office and they can fart up 4-8 years obstructing policy
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>>699744493
>information age
>doesn't understand media control
You're either a liar or a fool, and re-reading your carefully crafted Shillary post, I'm leaning toward the former.
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>>699743693
>>699743715
samefags
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>>699743627
every fucking politician does this. trump will do this exactly 15 minutes after he gets in. that's hat his deal making nonsense is all about.
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>>699744713
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>>699744035
there's also 350 million people in the US. so yeah, the chances are 0.0000001%
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>>699744630
Alleppo is a fucking shithole.

So that because they dont want to live there means theyre not fucking radical non conforming muslims? What? This logic is so fucking retarded.

Please explain your fucking comment further because i cant wrap my head around it.
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>>699744841
>doesn't know how to shut up after being called out
>still replying
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>>699744841
>shillary post

12 year old confirmed
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>>699744871
Well that's a brilliant defense. Except Trump has never held a political office.
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>>699745081
Found the shill
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>>699743627
oh this nonstory again
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>>699745135
found the 12 year old

one of them anyway

go away faggot we're talking politics
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>>699745118
everyone has to start somewhere. if he gets elected he will be the king of backroom deals.
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>>699744459
I love the way someone calls me retarded when they quote me out of context. But since you did not get it, i was replying to someone who said there was zero chance of being killed by a gun. and I was pointing out that thousands of people are killed by guns so he was wrong.

and yes, i remember charlie hebdo. I buy it regularly (I live in france at the moment). I was in Paris that day.

But I also remember that in comparison to the USA we have had 8,000 fewer murders than we should have on a per capita basis, since Charlie Hebdo. Because we don't have stupidly lax gun control laws.

I was also here when the killings in nice happened. How much worse would it have been if the guy had easy access to a a gun, and unlimited ammunition? would the body count have been higher?

dumb is as dumb looks. and you are looking pretty dumb, friend.
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>>699744480
and golden rule is Correlation always denotes causation!
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>>699745250
>the king of backroom deals

with 6 bankruptcies
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>>699744829
Ofc they do, and they will get it when she is elected.
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>>699745035
>called out that media bosses have no agenda
How much money do you get for doing this work?
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>>699745221
No, WE'RE talking politics. Youre shilling.
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>>699744869
More like hive mind. Isn't there a mandatory 30 sec. delay in posting?
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>>699745389
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>>699745081
You can't hire people under 16.
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>>699745397
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>>699745313
You wanted statistics, you got them. Don't be mad because you don't like what you see.
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>>699745389
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>>699745637
rekt
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>>699745274
He killed EIGHTY PEOPLE.
Thats more than a night club full of faggots that cant escape rifle fire.
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>>699745737
>no source
>looks like a teenager shooped it

kek
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>>699745389
>>699745737
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>>699745909
do you faggot really think this shit is funny anymore?
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>>699745274
i didn't say zero, i said statistically zero. there's a difference. it's a number so close to zero as to be for all purposes zero.

you have a statistically zero chance of winning the lottery to and yet someone wins.

turns out you are retarded after all
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>>699745274
And by the way hes right. There are 300,000,000 people in america. รท10,000 is a .0003 chance of me getting killed.

So yes. Statistically nill. You can throw big numbers around all you want, it doesn change the chances.
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>>699746017
i mean its not really a stretch to assume they're on 4chan. they're on all the other major sites.
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>>699744480
lol, guns are used to protect ten times more women from rape than the total numebr of attempted rapes every year.

Gleck over estimated use of guns for defensicve purposes by a massive margin, from limited data.

his estimate of number of criminals wounded by defensive gun use is larger than the whole number of gunshot wounds per year from all causes.

try harder, bad statistics guy.

(also comparing honduras, cote d'ivoire and el salvadore and jamaica - all lawless nightmare countries with no resources but lots of machetes and gangs to the US and saying the murder rate has only gun ownership in common is just plain deceitful. not just bad statistical comparison but the best part of an outright lie.
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>>699746324
yeah it actually is

nobody cares about what a bunch of faggots who don't vote thinks
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I've been preparing for years. Have a doomsday vault and i've practiced on all the Fallout games
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the lower trump sinks, the more people on /b scream shill

fucking music to my ears.
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>>699746375
are you going to power your tower with solar-powered mice after society falls?
>>
Trump won't lose.
The MSM polls are all fake.
CNN poll had Trump up 30 points over Killary and then 4 minutes later she's up 20.

Don't let the lying media fool you, Trump has the silent majority.
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>>699745147
I think it'd be a hilarious troll move if CNN just took a week wasting their time going over every instance trump has done something like that.

Honestly the RNC can't even hold themselves in the same league as the Dems any more. The Republican base cries and wines about "How the american people feel" about issues as if their feelings provide the factual basis for the issues at hand, while Fox news drums up scandal stories on Democratic representatives that maybe would have been shocking 40 years ago.

Meanwhile the Dems continue to skate circles around them and all they have to do is report on another stupid thing the mighty republican leader said at one of his rallies to make it clear to the majority of key voters in the US that he is not even close to qualified for the job.

I swear all the DNC is doing is sitting back and getting drunk and laughing. You can't even call this a two party race.
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>>699746423
:stopmusic:

:stopmusic:
:STOPMUSIC:
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>>699746371
>who dont vote
mate cmon, not all of us dont leave our house
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>>699745319
Not that i support the post you referred to, although you should know that he's had around 500 successful projects, compared to 6 unsuccessful. That's fucking remarkable for a businessman.
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>>699745034
you equated refugees with rapists. (a bit like Trump, who it seems may be a rapist...) but anyway - why did you do that? some refugees in sweded did rape - but that is not to say that all refugees are rapists, or that they will rape people in the US.

they are refugees for a good reason - partly caused by US fuckups in international affairs. time the US paid for their fucking up by helping some of the people they have fucked up.
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>>699746375
>practiced on fallout
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>>699746288
exactly, thank you.

plus that 10,000 number is exaaggerated because some people are involved with this where they have a much higher chance of getting killed - drug dealers, gang leaders, suicides, staying with domestic abuser, etc.
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>>699746017
>do you faggot really think this shit is funny anymore?
>Posts ancient aluminum-foil hat bait

>>699746324
samefagging
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>>699746500
The Repubs might still take a lot of seats in Congress even if Trump doesn't win, though.

But yeah, Trump is fucking up in battleground states and Clinton's got the Electoral College sewn up.
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>>699746591
we can comfortably disregard rape statistics in sweden. they have changed the way they approach rapes and reporting of rapes so the numbers are no longer reliable when compared to pre-change numbers.

sure some immigrants will be rapists and murderers. we can' texpect them to be angels. there will probably the same number of any selected group or culture.

if you take 10,000 lily white americans some of them wil still be murerers and rapists.
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>>699732679
Here's how I'll prepare
> claim I'm a black transgendered lesbian that is a chopper kin
> scream oppression and racism at the government if they try to do anything to me
> get my own safe space cos of all the oppression
> bring everyone who is against Cunton to my safe space under the same lies
> REVOLUTION
> ???
> profit
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>>699746536
Nobody fucking cares about 4chan, faggot. /pol/ is a containment board, not a place to encourage political discussions. You'd be wasting your time here, when there are so many actual politically-based websites with comments you could troll, and you'd have to actually do some work here, not just scream FAGGOT like we do.
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>>699745637
Your statistics are bogus, friend. A 9th grader could grasp that thousands of factors go into the fall in gun violence, least of them being a rise in the number of guns people own. Hell the reduction of lead in gasoline would probably factor 100 times more heavily into it than your dumb idea about "people having more guns is making everyone use them less"
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>>699745637
Plus isn't your guy's whole campaign platform standing on the fact that gun violence is up? Isn't he here to restore law and order? Which is it, you fucking cum stain of a silly little man?
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>>699746574
Yeah 500 businesses you can't even name, let alone state their value or whether they're still around.

Ripping someone off 6 times leaves a big black mark, anon. Deal with it.
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>>699746181
no you have a one in thirteen million chance of winning the lottery.

if it was zero, no one would win.

I am sorry if you cannot do maths, and don't know what you are talking about, but how can i explain this. Even if it is a small chance sread out over the whole population (which is an unfair way to do it - the high death rates are in specific areas and we could ban all hand guns in say large cities, thereby lowering the risk) there is still a sizable risk.

it may sound small, because people do not have a good grasp of statistical probability - like you. but it is significant.

for example, if you had the same risk of being killed by tigers wouldn't you insist that your neighbour who owned the tiger locked it up and didn't let it roam unchained?

it would do him no good to say, hey your chance of being killed by a tiger is statistically zero. (after all only ten thousand people every year are killed by tigers, and it was only twenty last year in this street)
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>>699746328
also not the more than 20 year old data on some arguments.
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>>699732679
>Clinton Wins

>But she gets assassinated

>Baby faced Kaine becomes President and doesn't know how to do anything.

>US enters depressive slump because we somehow ended up with a president who's even worse than the 2 candidates.
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>>699746772
yup, still stupid, unfunny, phoning it in
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>>699732679
When Trump loses*
Even the Donald has given up hope
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>>699739532
>buy ammo
>byy ammo
>byy lmmo
>ayy lmao

Holy shit this anon is an alien!
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>>699732679
I'm actually going to be buying two guns in anticipation of the outcome of this election. That way it won't be hell for me to get them when Hillary bans them.
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>>699745800
the population of orlando is 256,000 people

80/256,000 = 0.0003125

still a really low chance even if you were in orlando the night of the shooting.
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>>699746328
man. I didn't actually read the thing. The title was bad enough that you could debunk it. But Holy shit I didn't realize it actually got that stupid once you got into the meat of it.
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>>699746288
>>699746681

oh dear, no.

the fault is not the people who live in bad neighbourhoods or have abusive boyfriends. the problem is that the bad guys and the bad boyfriends can easily buy guns.

justbecause you don't have a problem in your nice middle class white neighbourhood does not mean that you should be able to buy guns. becusae if you can everyone can, and that menas you have ten thousand human beings killed and twenty to thirty thousand seriously injured and millions traumatised and in grief, with blighted lives, poverty, lost loved ones and life changing injuries every fucking year, and all so you can have a gun instead of a sex life.
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>>699747241
it's statistically zero faggot. you don't understand the concept, that's all.

you can't get any lower in reality than we already have it. you can't go lower than statistically zero.

instead of 0.0003 you want to make it 0.00003?

in practice, there's no difference.
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>>699744174
Ackshually, kikes control political discourse in the U.S., so quit being a shill for the bill and hill.
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>>699744174
never heard of media manipulation
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>>699744640
dont be a retard

all our abilities are nature itself too

going against nature is ignoring facts and confusing what is with what we wish it would be or what we think should be (those last two are both fiction)
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>>699746490
Just like they fooled us when they all said Obama would beat Romney handily.

You people have the attention span of guppies
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>>699746799
>Clinton's got the Electoral College sewn up.
what does that mean?

also, isn't that a good reason to go out and vote democrat all down the ticket - throw out the fuck up tea party anti government shitbags who are fucking the place up.
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>>699747588
even people in those neighborhoods still have a very low chance of getting killed. they're not scared on a regular basis, why are you scared for them safe in your mom's basement?
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>>699747605
>huurr durr durr the jooze

don't you faggots get tired of spanking that tiny penis over and over
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>>699747747
>isn't that a good reason to go out and vote democrat all down the ticket
it is, but people don't do that

because they believe shit like "hillary's a crook"
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>>699745637
yeah, you know that old canard 2lies damn lies and statistics" this is what they meant. these are not statistics - they are made up numbers that any statistician would cry to see passed off under the name statistics. they are garbage, used by garbage to promote garbage.
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>>699747605
so here's an updated list of things to fear:

>musllims
>mexicans
>blacks
>jews

what abuot waterslides? they killed 4 in the last couple weeks. even beheaded a kid like a dirty scary muslim

stop being such a fucking coward. and stop blaming other people for your shit life. take responsibility for your own mess. and fix it yourself.

one thing is painfully obvious. trump is not going to single out your life to fix. you'll be disappointed.
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>>699745737
I noticed /b/ was listed as one of the highly influential sites they are targeting... not..
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>>699747265
This is twisted. I like it.
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>>699747406
Hyuck Hyuck gotta get home to smack my wife in the face hyuck hyuck
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>>699748145
it's not listed because you can't fool /b/
they know when outside forces are trying to destroy their way of life
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>>699747185
Ripping someone off, or just a project gone south?
He's filed chapter 11 on 11 companies (not 6) out of 515 in total.
I'm not going to "deal with" your pointless shilling.

Trump has a success rate of 98.64%, why do you think so many people decide to do business with him?
Even fucking Conspiracy News Network (The biggest Clinton asslicker media out there) says so.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created/
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>>699746490
>delusions
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>>699748271
>durr twump's a successful biznessman
>i know it i know it i know it

kek
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>>699747593
in practice that is the difference between one thousand people killed and ten thousand.

I think that is quite a difference. but perhaps you don't mean the same thing by "practically no difference" as i do. or indeed you don't know what "any lower in reality" means.

9000 deaths is pretty real.
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>>699748163
It's always better to make sure that nobody's happy.
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>>699732679
Buy a sea container, bury it
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>>699748271
Oh wow so the number is ELEVEN bankrupticies now?

ELEVEN TIMES Trump fucked up and ripped people off.

Thanks, anon!
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>>699748446
>go back shill
>i'll fite you i'll fite you i'll fite you

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