>>699330984 I guess I didnt really give up but I moreso realized how little I value relationships, if a girl shows interest i might pursue but im not going to go out of my way for something i wont care about
>>699330636 honestly its mostly because of my hobbies that i dont care. im a gun enthusiast in a primarily left area. I'm not trying to start an argument but i just dont want to be with anyone who thinks im a babykiller or anything
I was always a nerd, typical 4chan user. I've had girlfriends - but the last time was high school. I take care of myself now and look much better, am in decent shape (work out now), am not stupid, dress passably.
its just that i didn't have much luck with them, so i sort of stopped seeking. now its not just that anymore because i've had a few women express interest in me (again, I'm not the autistic nerd I was years ago. self-improvement and confidence makes a huge difference), but its just that i don't trust women either. I think to myself, if these girls are trying to so bluntly give themselves up to me - who is to say they wouldn't give themselves up to another guy as well? also wonder, how can you get a woman you can truly trust? someone that actually loves you, isn't focused on your appearance or money?
i don't know if i'll ever be married and it hurts to think about it
>>699330636 >>699334170 >ITT CRINGE stfu you are only 20 you know nothing about life and nothing about women stop acting like you know everything hang out do shit and eventually you'll find someone if its not the right person just repeat
>>699334170 I know there feeling, my ex basically threw herself at me when I didn't know if I was interested in the beginning. Occurred to me later that most men would seize that opportunity, I mean it's too easy. Now that we're broken up I can imagine that's exactly the play she made with her new relationship
>>699332477 Relationships are something valuable to us as humans. You can't live alone anon no matter how much you want to. Friendship, or romantic relationships. Do you really think /b/ or some other stupid hobby will have any importance to you when you're 40? A relationship with a girl doesn't have to be just a shallow bond just for sex and a better self-image. It can be something deeper and loving. Just don't give up on people in general anon.
>>699335213 I dunno what a chill guy is butdont be such a butthurt i just tryed to help you isnt for this reason you are on this thread ? What i mean by hang out do shit is basicly try to find some interest for something like fucking woodcarving classes, sports or whatever thats put you in a position where you have to socialize bcause i think its what you need if you come on 4tard to get help
>>699335957 Yeah i dont plan on giving up on people just giving up on trying to find happiness in a relationship. If its meant to happen it will, not trying to come off as some edgy kid who thinks hes crazy or something like that
19 had 5 different styles of gf's gave up without turning gay , just don't want to get in relationships anymore because shit needs a load of effort .. being single is the best feeling in the world trust me
>>699335957 This generations women are vapid cunts, and accept that they are, and bask in its sunlight.
28 There were 2 women i wanted to stay with.First one was 2 years, she just turned in to a banshee and we just didnt enjoy each others company. Second was for 5 years. We met online some game website, i dont remember it. We were good till about year 4. We lived happily, everyday was a new day to enjoy with her. I woke up one day, and the entire apartment was trashed. All my shit was destroyed with what i assumed was a hammer. She had left with a not telling me to fuck off. She stole my car, but i was able to track it down with the help of her mother.
I dont want to spend anymore time on women.It is not worth my sanity no is it worth my safety. I'm fine being alone, its somber, i dont have to worry about anything but my bubble of a life.
>>699330636 I gave up 2 years ago, when i found the girl i was gonna marry had been cheating on me since we started dating, i confronted her, she put everything on me and ended up twisting the facts, told everyone i was the one cheating on her and that she had been receiving physical abuse since she met me. I lost all of my friends, and one of her/my (ex) friends harassed me by months, one of them killed my cat and 2 dogs with a baseball bat. I know not all of the women are like that, but i dont wanna go through something like this again.
Whoever it was, he left them half-dead so i could find them like that. Won't get into details, but thats by far the most horrible thing ive ever watched irl. It only stopped when i moved to another state.
>>699339728 I've got really low testosterone. When it dips terribly, I stop seeing women as women, and start seeing them as really defective men. They're short, whiny, delight in their own incompetence, want agency but eschew responsibility, and generally act like terrible excuses for human beings.
But personally I just feel like it's a waste of time. I enjoy doing things by myself and with friends and I'd rather just focus on doing what I want to do rather than dealing with another person and all their emotional shit.
Also if you're not careful these days it's easy to be labeled a fucking rapost thanks to third wave feminism and their constant attempts to revive the dying cause
>>699343047 This we need to get it into peoples heads that first wave feminist crap was just as stupid as 3 wave feminism they shoulnt vote they shoulnt work and you can marry themat any age with there parents concent
Ex fiance had a "master" even from before her and I had a relationship. She lied the entire 2 years I knew her.
A girl lied to me about her age and the next thing I know cops are at my door confiscating my electronics. Good lawyer got me off, but still in debt because of the lying cunt.
My latest girl has multiple personality disorder. The level of what the actual fuck in this relationship has put me right on the razors edge that if this fails and we don't get married and spend the rest of our lives together... I'm done... I'll fuck whores and have fuck buddies... but I will never be in another relationship ever again.
To say nothing of the scores of bitches who are just incapable of having any kind of discussion. Submissives that I literally spanked and slapped and choked to tell me what the fuck is going on in their crazy, deranged little heads and they say they love it then go apeshit and/or depressed when I do shit that they themselves have said makes them happy.
Women aren't worth it. There's a reason why porn, sex games, and masturbatory aids are so popular. You want job security? Write code for porn games.
>got out of a 5 year relationship @ 21 >fucked every bitch that i could until 25 >said fuck it and stopped trying to get bitches and started trying to make real money. >dontregret.jpeg >figure I'll spend a year not actively trying or avoiding >settle when I'm 30
>>699330636 never even started. well i did, but i was kinda pushed into her. felt like fucking high school and im 21. had sex for like 15 seconds and i never came from anything she did. heard she blew a good dick 10/10 and i give her -1/10 for using teeth, complaing about my pre-cum and not making me cum.
i dont even care about woman. like i got shit to do. i got shit to work out and plan and think about i got a whole fucking life son. woman are stupid, unimportant and sometimes good for sex.
>>699349521 GAD and social phobia primarily, which are being managed with medication. Also showing symptoms of OCD and low T but I haven't asked my doc yet so I can only speculate. For me it's become less about not inflicting my various neuroses on another person and more about getting my shit together so I can handle a serious commitment. I'm not getting any younger so if I decide I want kids, when I do eventually dive back into the dating scene I'll be looking for 'the one.' Have you thought about getting help for yourself? It is out there, and I promise you it's not all bullshit.
>>699353354 I have looked into help before but haven't approached anyone. I'm a poorfag so therapy is pretty draining on my resources. From what I understand there's really no cure for what I have, just ways to manage symptoms to a certain extent. Thought I had "the one" until a couple months ago found out she couldn't commit. Looking back, a lot of the problems we had in the relationship were related to our made worse by my BPD, so I'm really not sure what to do from here
>>699347099 Smart I do this too. I just reject them when they try some stupid tricks. I dodged a bullet once when a 7/10 girl seemed really into me which is suspicious because I'm dreadfully average and quiet. It turns out she was a few weeks pregnant the bitch.
I read a year or two later that she was in a drunk driving accident where the passenger died and was being tried for manslaughter. I hope she's in prison tbh.
>>699355172 >BPD It might be worth your time to scrape up the resources to see a qualified psychiatrist. Maybe there's a charity or government program you qualify for, maybe you'll just have to save your pennies. The managing of symptoms shouldn't be dismissed too lightly, it can offer a huge range of relief. I've come to accept that I'll never be 100% 'cured' and will probably need some kind of crutch for the rest of my life, but all that said... we share the same body but I'm not the same person who was ready to throw himself in front of a train a decade-and-a-half ago. Not even close.
>>699335957 There is one girl who I currently feel attracted to on a level I've never felt before ( am also a virgin). I literally cannot stop think about this girl.
It really hurts me. I've started working at this place and there she was. I feel like I saw her there before I started working and also felt a connection then. But I'm so socially inept that I am afraid I will fuck it up.
I don't want the "just try again XD" or "theres a billion fish in the sea;)" shit. This is the only woman who ever made me feel this way.
I don't want to miss out, but I don't even know how to begin a conversation, let alone a relationship.
But if you guys HAVE to date chicks just remember a few rules.
1. never date a cheater...EVER. If she cheated on her bf with you , she'll cheat on you with someone else. 2. sluts and whores are different. Date the sluts they sometimes are great gf.
Sluts put no value on sex. They just like to fuck. If you can fuck her without buying her anything or having to try real hard she is just a slut. date her she'll probably be loyal to you. Whores want you to buy them stuff to fuck. they are always trying to trade up so avoid these cunts like the plague.
3. The "bad day" test is petty but sometimes necessary. If you are worried she is to vapid just tell her out of the blue you've had a really bad day and don't want to talk about it. See if she does anything for you at this point. even just a recommendation to cheer you up is good. If her answer is to give you space in such a way as to make her more comfortable (like she then goes "just play vidya and work it out Imma go hang with a female friend.") drop her she is too self centered..
>>699357507 I think I really do want to get help. My last relationship was what really made me start to realize that the way I react to things and handle conflict is not healthy or conducive to a long term relationship. Maybe someday I will be healthy enough to give another series relationship a shot, but at the same time I'm not getting any younger, so I may have missed my chance to get those first round picks. Thanks for the motivation anon
I gave up on women when I my gf and I originally broke up at age 19 she was my unrequited love for a majority of my high school life so it was a very big deal when we started dating and she broke it off in a very callous way. Sounds like I'm being a pussy but that shit stayed with me and now I just dgaf about dating women, I don't feel a need to chase them at all. I have porn and that deals with sexual needs and as far as social relationships I still hang with friends etc. At 23 I've moved past the hurt stage of it and it doesn't even bother me anymore but I think it left me pretty emotionally desensitized.
I gave up after my third terrible break up in a row. I'm 33 now, most women my age don't interest me anymore, the ones that are single are usually crazy or have very blatant flaws, or just coming off a divorce and have kids. Younger girls are boring because they're vapid and have no life experience.
I'm just sick of sinking years into relationships, having feelings for someone, and being just completely destroyed when they betray me, as they inevitably seem to.
Also, I have since discovered that escorts are pretty fucking awesome.
I just don't want to be with anyone else after having someone say they love me for six years, not talk to me for a week, break it off, and then be with someone else a mere three days later. I can't do it anymore.
>>699363916 I mean, it's not hard to get young girls now. I have money and my own place and I can buy them nice things and take them to nice restaurants and shit. Dudes their own age are awkward, stupid, and useless, they can't compete with me. They're boys, I'm a man.
The problem is that I have nothing to talk about with girls like that. What are they gonna tell me? Something funny their friend did in class the other day? I've tried the younger girlfriend thing. It's fun for a little while, but it gets old real quick. Young 'uns are for fucking, not dating.
>Always feel bored around people >Hang out plenty >Go into the city, bars, etc >No real desire to be there >No desire to have a romantic bond with someone >Satisfied with just jerking off and pursuing whatever hobby has my attention at the time between work >Only regularly talk to two friends
>>699330636 I am 32 and gave up on women because they're all a waste of money, batshit crazy emotional wrecks that start out sweet, start out amazing, then drift into a dark spiteful manipulative sinister demanding and controlling monster.
Holy fuck this thread is depressing and a relief at the same time. Depressing to hear how toxic some of these women are but a relief to know I'm not alone.
Nothing major for me just had a few short term relationships (none longer than 4 months). Maybe it's that I haven't found a girl that is to my taste but I've had a few "oh shit" moments that make me question chopping my dick off to stay out of trouble.
>be 23 >girl has been flirting with me for a while >I'm fucking swamped at work for months so usually don't have time to hang out even if I wanted to >she seems smart, pretty, interested in me etc >can carry on a good conversation, well educated all that good stuff >like I said I'm busy with work and shit so I don't really want a relationship >she is genuinely good company though >finally break down and go grab a drink on one of my 3 days off per month >one thing leads to another and we're tipsy back at her place >end up making the move to her bed >about to begin the horizontal mambo >ask if she's on birth control, twice >she says yes, twice >meh, she's a young professional like me she probably is waiting to have kids >plus I'm pretty drunk at this point >start bangin >goes on for 5 or 10 minutes >enter whiskey duck >try to revive lil willy from his stupor >revive him with a little help from her >after 8 seconds of an unenthusiastic bj she says "I cant" and gives up >I say fuck it and roll over
I didn't know captain whiskey dick had saved my ass until next time we were hooking up about a week later and I asked her again about birth control. She got her period like 2 or 3 days after the initial go. She wanted to bang again but my ass was out the door before she could bat an eye
I had a girlfriend for 5 years, 1st year was ok but then she started to cut, then she started to cheat, then she left for a gay guy who apparently turned straight and now she won't talk to me. I had other girlfriends too but they were more short term bitches and they are all psycho.
Why are you banging this slut without a condom? Especially at your age? Are you trying to get her pregnant? Chicks do that ALL the time when they want a man, get knocked up so you cant leave. WEAR A FUCKING CONDOM UNTIL YOU'RE MARRIED, trust me on that.
You know anons, why wouldn't most of us /giveuponwomen/? Every relationship I've been in the past decade have been fucking and public image. I've tried to make an emotional connection but women don't want that. They want money, sex, and a consequence free life. It isn't fucking worth it. It really isn't worth it when you have crippling depression and are a wage slave. The only reason I and many of you don't off ourselves is because we think it's pathetic. we have someone who will miss us, or we don't want to embrace the nothingness. Times are rough anons. The traditional lifestyle that many of us grew up to enjoy is dead.
When I was with my Ex, i always fucked with a condom, just in case. She was on the pill, but i kept using condoms. You need to draw the line, and if she doesn't want to fuck, so be it. Withdrawal, and she will get antsy you don't want to fuck her and will bend over for you straight away.
>>699330636 same man, also 20. today just solidifies it. one of my housemates lost her phone and she blamed it on me, got my sister to search my room while i was out and everything (which she, thankfully, just pretended to do). when she finally found her phone had fell off where she left it and under some draws she wouldnt even apologise. I hope this cunt and her shitstain of a cat gets out of our house soon
>>699330984 I was getting pussy left and right between 17 and 19. Havent gotten laid in a year and a half because i'm over hookups and i cant stand any of the women i meet any more. Just bullshit heaped upon more bullshit. I'm not sacrificing my emotional well-being on the pillar of sluts
>>699366749 I know she was. She ended up leaving me for one of her fucking coworkers. A few months before she caught a "mystery disease" that turned out to be Chlamydia. Only had sex a few times during that which infuriated me because if I caught it, she could've blamed it on me.
>>699330636 I haven't give up but I'm..how do i put it? Scared?
I'm just 19 (thankfully) about to be 20
I was in a relationship for a year and a half (probably my first real relationship besides those "children's play").
We dated for a couple of months and she then cheated on me,but me being a 17 year old in love for the real first time thought "it couldn't be possible" got back together after 3 months away, dated for a couple of months again until she cheated on me again and brought her "new" partner to our school while we were still "dating" (although at this point it had pretty much ended,just not officially).
I understand not every girl is like this, and I met quite a few trust worthy girls but even though many years have gone, everytime I think about going after someone again, i just don't find the trust I need.
>>699334170 Find a girl you have been friends with for a long time. They are basically your vest friend for all the right reason. And dont rush into a relationshio or sex. Have it build off of emotion and connection, split the bills so she knows your not give up all ur money.
>>699366769 Yeah that was the only time I ever made that mistake. Every time in the past I used condoms. I would say that I dodged a bullet and it was one of my nine lives, but ain't no way I'm chancing it 8 more times. Hell I considered getting a vasectomy just in case a condom ever breaks
>>699366753 This is why prostitution needs to be legalized everywhere and destigmatized. Sex is a need. Not having it can be very unhealthy, and many people don't realistically have access to it (or at least not regularly).
I love going to Amsterdam because I have complete control of my sex life. This is something you don't get as a straight man. If you're single, you can go out looking to get laid, but it's always gonna be luck of the draw. If you're in a relationship, maybe she's not in the mood, or she's sick, or she's busy or whatever. It's not up to me when I get sex. In Amsterdam, it is. I can walk over to De Wallen whenever I want and fuck someone. It's really pretty amazing how big a quality of life improvement it is as a man to be able to have sex at will.
The monopoly that women have on sex and the attitudes we have towards it in our society are a huge part of what makes dating and relationships so toxic over here. Sex being much more reasonably accessible to more men would drastically improve things, I think.
>>699367395 My two cents since that's exactly what I've been doing for about the last decade.
They will still fuck you over out of nowhere. I thought for sure "this person is my best friend in the whole world and would never hurt me" but it turns out she was leading me on and telling me she wanted to get together "to make me feel good" but then got with someone else on the night we had a date planned.
Girls do dumb shit for some reason and you end up getting hurt. I don't think it's always intentional, but there are literally no guarantees, it doesn't matter how well or how long you know them, one day they'll flip that switch and it's done.
I was in a long term relationship for half of my 20s. When it ended I went on a fucking spree. Ended up knocking up a crazy bitch. 9 months of pure hell, I decided to try to be celibate and single. Sucked at first, but after a while it wasn't bad. Almost addicting. Try telling women you meet at the bar that you don't want to take them home, because you are celibate. They flip out because they are not used to being told no. They don't know how to handle it. It's funny as fick. 7 years later, in and out of family court, I'm finally legally free from child support slavery. Started over. Found myself a loyal Turkish girl. All is good. Fuck American women. The reason they are so offended by "make me a sandwich" is because they can't make a sandwich. They are worthless.
>>699366024 I'm trying to do that with the girl I'm seeing right now. Gonna put a baby in her and make her get rid of it when I'm done making her feel like a whore for letting herself get knocked up. One of her punishments is gonna be to get all coked up and let my friends run a train on her.
>>699367852 I'm still miserable and it's been seven months. She was all I had. All of my friends moved away and don't talk to me anymore. I've stayed up so many nights thinking of some retaliatory scheme, but the ones I've tried have only left me feeling more like shit and she somehow gets to walk along the high road once more. It's only the hope that something does finally settle the score that keeps me going anymore.
>>699368074 It often isn't intentional. Girls get caught up in how they feel and do shitty things out of emotion. It's not usually malicious, but it doesn't really matter. Doesn't matter if she fucked another dude to get back at you or because she was sad because her cat died and her friends took her out drinking and she had too many tequila shots and the dude made her feel happy. It's still a shitty fucking thing to do.
I think the only thing we can do is to play the game the same way they do. Get what you want and need out of the relationship while not getting attached. That way you get what you want and don't get hurt if they try and fuck you over. And if you're not attached, you can make more rational decisions.
pic related: fap material for the brave ones who have given up on women.
>>699368644 I got them same feels. No real friends here, kind of let it fall by the wayside since she was my world. Now I just want to hurt her as much as she hurt me. There best I've got so far is post her nudes on her Facebook page and have her write a confession (I can access her account) about how she was cheating on me and how no one should trust her. That or hire someone to break his and her kneecaps. What weaknesses does she have?
Just wait until she gets into another relationship and send them to her new bf. Tell him you took it a few days ago, and that you just wanted to let him know, because you would want someone to tell you if your gf was cheating. Repeat the process until you get over it.
>>699370456 You are a stronger man than I. I'd love to post her nudes, but like I said, every retaliatory stunt I've tried has ended up blowing up in my face. That would be awesome, though I'd imagine the backlash would be intense.
>>699370692 Not necessarily, you'll feel like a boss becasue you know she can't fuck you over and that you have the pwer in the relationship. Not to mention Buddhists have been practicing not getting attached to people or things for a long time and they seem pretty happy.
>>699371154 I am really considering it, but that would cut off my ability to access her account and find out what she's up to. I'm thinking that I may be able to get her evicted from her house, or possibly deported from the country but whatever it is I want it to completely fuck her. If I can fuck him over too, that's just a bonus
>>699330636 My wife and her two female cousins are downstairs right now talking about how they should all be married to me, they have literally used the term sister wives at least 5 times. Also have 3 girls on the side that just can't quit me for some reason. I'm fat, balding, broke, pretty okay in the face I guess and unemployed.
>>699372015 I'd love to have the ability to still have that much control and be able to observe from the shadows. I never knew any of her passwords, but it doesn't really matter anymore. I blocked her sorry ass.
>>699330636 I haven't given up yet, but the last few girls I was with I felt very little desire to continue with them after the first date. The dates always went great, and we would always hit things off great, but none of the emotions I experienced felt genuine the next day. So I've just decided to play them like a piano and never commit to a relationship. After my last big one I just don't feel any emotional attachment, only physical.
>>699373312 Or you could move on with your life, try to stay positive, work on bettering yourself and learning to be happy and love yourself without the need for someone else to validate your life... and then find someone who is actually worth your time, and be happy for once.
22 here, never really had a GF... I've had bad experiences with women, never really found someone worth the hassle (and that she wanted me back...), just some hook ups, like, party make out and that's it, they never really want more (I try not to act needy, just FYI, never calling/texting immediately, ask her out after some time, basic stuff, I'm not autistic or socially inept, probably just lack self-confidence)
Anyway, now thanks to Tinder I've found this cute girl, already kissed but she seems distant... nothing I did seemed to make her upset...
any advice? If I fuck up now I'll probably give up I'm already tired of girls' bullshit... I've had like, 1 romantic interest per year for the last 4 years and EVERY time something goes awfully wrong, and before 2012 it was worse...
>>699330636 20? You fucking coward your life hasn't even started yet. You've got years left to develop and grow into the person you will be. You're not even a real adult and you've already given up on a whole type of happiness? Why? Because it can only happen with some effort and risk and personal growth? Guilty. All guilty.
>>699330984 23. Extremely anti-social and can't get along with hardly anybody. People want to talk 6+ hours a day and I just can't fucking deal with it, along with the fact that I'm a bit abrasive.
I think I've had about 4 women interested in me for my entire life. One when I was young and extremely shy, who used to be my best friend. I started completely avoiding her because I froze up any time I was around her. The second I had gotten over my shyness, but fell apart in about a month because of my inexperience. The third was a coworker who seemed to be similar to me, but was over in a week. The fourth was another coworker who was in a rough patch with her husband. She was a two faced bitch who I knew I wouldn't get along with, so I completely ignored her.
Haven't met anyone I've been really interested in since #1 and 2.
Some women are okay its just difficult to find one who meshes well with you.
My wife and I are both very antisocial and hate people. We moved to a small town, bought a house on the outskirts with no neighbours, and keep to ourselves. We run an online business and rarely have to interact with other people. Life is great.
Figure out what your flaws are and find a woman who compliments them.
I'm 20, and feel that no woman will ever be able to give me what I really want from them. I don't care for sex, I feel absolutely nothing during sex. In fact I was actually the one who had to fake the orgasm every time I've gotten laid. So I gave up on relationships in general because of this
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