>>696885622 Poor fag here, I barely make over 6 fig a year. Indian immigrants are H1B'g their way and taking jobs like mine because in the US companies are required to match American wage up to 60K then it caps. So my 120K a year DBA job will eventually be outsourced or H1B'd as America gets rid of all the good jobs.
When this happens I'm going into roofing and taking a Mexican's job.
>>696886820 Show some sources that prove your statement that Trump supporters are indeed wealthier than Clinton supporters (I do not support either presidential candidate). I expect most Trump supporters to be /pol/acks that can't/won't likely vote, trailer trash, and deranged people.
>>696885622 off course they are. it is the poor people who feel the negative effects. The immigrants compete mostly with them for their shitty jobs, making the jobs more rare and even more shitty. Also the migrants tend to move en masse into the poorest neighborhoods, making them worse than they already are. Meanwhile the rich people only see the immigrants when they clean their house or do their garden. It is easy being pro immigration when rich. You get cheap help and none of the downsides.
>>696887979 >>696888022 >work part time at Wal-Mart >definitely middle class now >buy a $500,000 house >foreclosed.jpg >must be because of immigrants also getting loans >must be because of welfare >nigger spic nigger spic
>>696888022 This is true. Dems bait the minorities into voting dem for free shit ie obamacare, tuition reimbursement, extended unemployment welfare etc. Most republicans are well off, a lot self employed and realise the gov can't run shit successfully. It's all a ruse but money is money. Rep just like to keep more of theirs. I vote rep because I'm a fucking adult and don't need a gov to tell me how to live it where to donate my money.
They're not taking your job, they're more competitive. to them, America is fucking paradise, even in a low wage job. You're busy complaining because you can't buy new shit every year. Shut the fuck up and work for a living and stop being a fat fucking American.
>>696889346 That's not true, I could never apply for any of those, not even FAFSA which is the only one I cared for back in the day. I had to pay 40k+ a year to attend TCU before I won my math competition.
>>696890102 Lol. I'm a veteran, still in great shape. You are an overweight internet nazi who thinks of doing something, but have no guts. I highly doubt you have even hit anybody in your life. I have over 5 years of various martial arts behind me , as well as some moderate success in mma fights. Your penis doesn't mean shit as you have none.
>>696890460 >personal freedoms You get arrested in most EU countries for hurting people's feelings. >healthcare That's because of the artificial lines our Politicians drew up to create a monopoly and increase health care costs. We just need to get rid of the lines.
>>696890036 >wrong, h1bs are there because americans can't fill the jobs they're made for. Yeah.. because in 2000 when job ads said "Must have 8 years experience in Windows 2000" while they couldn't find Americans who said they had the required experience they could find workers in India who said they did. Or the common occurrence where an American company makes the employees train there replacements before firing them. You'd think if they can train their replacements that they could do the job to begin with.
>>696885622 Racism is the categorisation and segregation of human specimen, based on genetic and anthropological findings among human groups.
Racism as a political ideal is the segregation of groups in order to maintain a genetic and cultural homogeneity within a specific region. This is maintained to avoid the racial miscegenation which brings with it the cultural and intellectual downfall of a race. It is, and should be, in all nation's interests to keep a racial homogeneity strong as it has been proven to be very beneficiary for the state and it's inhabitants. In several cases where racial miscegenation has been introduced it has led to a intellectual catastrophe and a cultural backlash.
Japan, Hong Kong, China, South Korea, Early Sweden, Early Germany, Early France and Great Britain are nation states who did not allow racial miscegenation and also maintained a global supremacy both through IQ quotas and human ingenuity within arts, politics, technology and economics.
>>696889242 >Then how come rich people vote Republican? >Because they want to keep the poor poor. Actually, since most poor people vote democrat, its the democrat's that want to keep them poor, since if they become rich, they will switch to republican.
>>696891353 >Japan, Hong Kong, China, South Korea, Early Sweden, Early Germany, Early France and Great Britain are nation states who did not allow racial miscegenation and also maintained a global supremacy both through IQ quotas and human ingenuity within arts, politics, technology and economics.
>>696888628 Yeah you're a fucking idiot if you think second generation immigrants aren't going to want higher wages than their predecessors when they spent their entire lives within the comfort of America.
>>696891666 That is how companies started justifying outsourcing/H1Bs. Create ads that no one could fill then outsource to India where they said they had tons of people who met the criteria. Americans wouldn't tell stupid lies and Indian companies would.
>>696891917 The biggest issue that most rich have against the estate taxes is that 1.) even if you tax it at an insane amount, its a very small amount of the federal tax budget, and 2.) when you have people like bill gates and warren buffet pledging their money to noble causes, would you rather that money be wasted by the government or spent wisely by charities. It's called philanthropy. The rich practice it, the government does not.
I'm no poor fag and I care about keeping Americans with jobs. Do you know how much money they fund out onto other parts of the world?second point Mexicans take advantage of ebt and food stamps that you pay taxes into how is that fair?
>>696892140 Well, you may incur some negatives but the positives in some cases actually outweigh the negatives. Take, for example, the United states. You may have displaced 1000's of Indians and Mexican's but the nation has grown tremendously into a successful country because people emigrated from Europe.
Let it be you may have to put up with some shit but you cannot please everyone. Action -reaction law of the universe.
>>696888373 Would never get approved for a 500,000 home loan making minimum wage. Lol, obviously you still live at home fucking douche bag. Try graduating high school before you let other people know how dumb you think they are.
>>696892480 >It's called philanthropy. The rich practice it, the government does not. Yeah.. tell me about those national parks again? Funding for the arts? Major tax breaks for corporations? Taking a hand full of rich guys who are trying to help and saying that the rest of the rich are like that is retarded Libertarian BS. As the rich say, you get rich by never spending your own money. If there was no cap in FICA social security would be fine.
>>696893359 >Then why even become wealthy if the government is going to take your money and give it to lazy people when you die?
The purpose of the estate tax is to reduce the odds of the US getting a landed gentry. Learn to history you ignorant piece of shit. Oligarchy concentrating all wealth effectively destroys freedom, and the Founders knew it.
>>696893310 http://www.newsmax.com/t/finance/article/738827?section=Kleinfeld&keywords=wall-street-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-president&year=2016&month=07&date=15&id=738827&aliaspath=%2FFinance%2FArticle%2FFinance-ArticleTemplate&oref=www.google.com it's true though. They hate Trump and love Hilldawg.
>>696892590 >i've been hiring jobs in tech for a decade now. Americans just can't fill the jobs, period. I have been dealing with the fallout of Indian worked for longer than that. They can't fill jobs either it always involves a few Americans doing damage control for them. The days of cheap Indian comp sci PHDs are long gone. Now you get a liar with low skills.
>>696893075 That's so nice of you sadly most of Americans are living in poverty we have enough people here why should we have to support ever ass hole that comes to America? We already have to pay niggers to sit on there fuckin ass now Mexicans shooting our baby's out there cunts
>>696893484 >how did this country get filled with such fucking cowards? how? wtf happened to us
Hate isn't fear. Why should I want Mudslimes VOTING in MY country? It's MINE, not theirs.
I defy you to articulate a reason to want Muslims here. You must be a nigger.
I've seen the best Muslim societies in person. They are all oppressive and were ever Muslim vote they vote for oppression. Niggers like you forget they were bought and sold by Muslims with the imaginary blessing of Allah.
Immigration has been a huge problem especially in Europe, where huge waves of immigrants have streamed in due to recent events of war, but what really is immigration? *Michael raises an eyebrow.*
Immigration was first discovered in 1942, when two treasure hunters found an abandoned shipwreck in the Atlantic Ocean. A golden chest was present, with its contains being... Immigration. Four beings of hunched over backs and portruding foreheads emerged. "I WILL RAPE YOUR WIVES!" they said, before swimming towards Europe.
During 1985, a professor named Stephen Hawking was planning on crafting a cure to immigration, as the four immigrants had bitten the majority of Europe's inhabitants. He crafted it and was to inject it into a Syrian 43 year old to test the results, but it backfired, and the Syrian stabbed Stephen Hawking in the neck, rendering him paralyzed.
>>696893652 >you think muslims have a monopoly on rape They're definitely trying to.
>>696893764 >Omar Mateen >The Truck Driver in Nice (killed over 80 people with a truck, no guns needed) >The shooter at the Munich mall the other day And those just happened in the last month or so.
Don't forget Cologne on New Years (not a murder, but a mass rape not committed by whites), Brussels, Paris, etc As well as in their own countries, such as the bombing at the Turkish airport, the recent explosion in Baghdad, etc. that happened just within the past year.
Oh let's all be nice give all the Muslims, Mexicans and niggers all the money and housing they need. While your at lets them fuck your women you know they are having a hard time if you don't agree your a racist trump lover.fucking privileged white kid who is a sis fucking scum bag!#Blacklivesmatter!!!!!! Hillary 2016!!!!
Stupid white trash also forget that the Boom years they so admire had MUCH higher marginal tax rates, and tax structures designed to promote reinvestment in the economy. The US built infrastructure and funded effective public high school education with those taxes.
Now we are ruled by the oligarchy Ike warned us about. Hear it yourself.
>>696895112 which ones? i live in NYC in a wealthy hood and i pay about 1k more a month than the shitty town i grew up in. that is, if you can't do the math, 12k more a year. in NYC i also make more than double what i would make in that small town, or something like 60k a year more.
if a place is more expensive to live it's for 2 reaons: 1, you get paid more there and 2 more people want to live there.
>>696894031 >your company or you must suck at hiring then. For Indian workers here are pretty much Wipro and Tata consulting in India. All American companies pull from them. So call MS and their people can't fix your server, guess why? As a consultant I have worked all over and everyone's remote labor sucks.
The solution is easy. remove teh cap for H1s and remote labor. Make it legally required that you pay them 150% of what an American would make doing the same job. You do that and suddenly companies will discover tens of thousands of Americans who would be able to do the job really well.
As for "Philanthropists" like Gates and Zuck, guess who likes to go speak to congress about expanding visas and getting rid of the rest of the good American jobs? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/opinion/sheldon-adelson-warren-buffett-and-bill-gates-on-immigration-reform.html?_r=0
>>696896389 what are they doing with the money they get? are they saving it all up to buy a yacht? are they leaving tens of thousands to their kids? or are they spending every single cent of that money?
>>696896389 That's a very misleading statistic. The "40%" Trump likes to cite is a figure that includes people who are too young to work, retired, or are disabled and unable to work. Real unemployment is closer to 10%.
>>696895578 Learn to use the Internet kid, every single country in Europe that has a rise in immigration from the middle east is suffering from a much higher crime rate. Check out the news once in a while and take a break from porn.
>>696895751 >Stupid white trash also forget that the Boom years they so admire had MUCH higher marginal tax rates, and tax structures designed to promote reinvestment in the economy. In the 1950s and 1960s, when the economy was booming, the wealthiest Americans paid a top income tax rate of 91%.
So we should go back to that rate like when Eisenhower actually made America great? I wonder if Trump is planning to use that plan?
Holy crap if he does that America might actually improve.
>>696897210 Most people receiving EBT benefits have a job, just not one that pays very well. It's a requirement to receive it that you have a job, are attending job training, or are regularly applying for jobs.
>>696885622 >If the only thing valuable about you is where you were born, kill yourself
most of the immigrants (illegal or otherwise) now coming into the US and the West in general, are low IQ, ill-bred people who do not in fact value our culture, who have no interest in becoming Americans (or Westerners), have but little interest in joining the Middle Class or have actual contempt for it, despise our culture, our accomplishments, our institutions and (in the case of Muslims) actually want to destroy us.
You mean worrying about these immigrants?
Have you even been paying attention?
(funny pic, btw, I remember when some of my relatives in West Virginia first put in plumbing and the septic leach field and they actually had a bathroom before they had the walls and ceiling up on the addition. At least they erected a tent around it, though, until they got it finished.
>>696898093 >They changed the definition of unemployed and workforce. They also have things like if you have not worked in a few years they they do not need to count you anymore. "Unemployment numbers" are a joke that is designed so that no one feels bad about America.
>>696898093 Not really. The ~4% rate comes from the BLS' U-3 statistic, which is described as "Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force" It's currently 4.9%, which means, out of people who are eligible to work and seeking work, 4.9% of them cannot find a job. However, if you want to include people who are underemployed (have a job they're overqualified for or are working part time), you want to look at the U-5 statistic, which is 9.6%.
>>696898571 Most people who aren't looking for work are stay-at-home parents who don't want to work, so why should they be included in the official unemployment rate? Not seeking work also disqualifies you from getting SNAP benefits, so it's not like they have any real benefit from avoiding a job.
>>696897817 >Basically the whole native genocide thing is a lie and the reason why there aren't many native Americans around today is because their women race mixed with whites. And here I thought whites were not super accepting of other races and cultures in those days. I also hear the holocaust was made up and the Rwandan genocide didn't happen either. The Serbs were just enthusiastic gardeners. I think the only real genocide is Israel killing the Palestinians right?
>>696898318 Sweden is interesting precisely because they went from the lowest rape statistic of any country in the world to the highest (aside from Lesotho). And the rapes are almost 100% committed by Muslim immigrants.
Sweden is the multicultural paradise, by their own national goals and policies. They are also beholden to an administration that will allow no criticism, journalists self-censor to not offend Muslims nor report 'conflicts' and they are now having 'difficulty' taking care of their Muslims and non-European immigrants and have begged the EU for help.
In Sweden, the Radical Left and the Muslims pretty much strong-arm the country and it is a true mess and only becoming worse.
Not all rapes are reported--not even in Sweden. And you are just playing with words to gloss over what is in fact a disaster and a complete debacle of what used to be the most civilised country on earth.
>>696899199 that's the right wing propaganda line, sure. but it simply isn't true.
this is hard fact, from the wiki article.
"There have been several international comparisons made, placing Sweden at the top end of the number of reported rapes. However, police procedures and legal definitions vary widely across countries, which makes it difficult to compare rape statistics. For example, Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005, which largely explains a significant increase in the number of reported rapes in the ten-year period of 2004-2013."
>>696898531 You're saying that if everyone doesn't see the world exactly as you do, that's bad? Everyone needs to have the same values and desires that you do? That's how we get 200 trap threads a day.
I'm going to leave alone the racist undertones.
I enjoyed the anecdote about your family's bathroom though.
>>696899401 >logical fallacies Pretty cool word. Can you point one out? Whites were not looking to score with all the savages/prairie niggers/redskins/etc. It was not what the Asian fetish is today. They were considered subhuman like rabid livestock, that is why exterminating them was morally easy in those days.
Denying the Native American genocide is like denying other well documented genocides. It was not humanities first and it will not be their last.
>>696898318 You do realize that any statistic can be presented in a different light, right? >left: 1 in 5 women get raped on a college campus >right: the majority of women on college campuses do not experience sexual assault
Assuming that statistic is accurate (debatable), both statements are technically true, but present the statistic in a different light. Teaching statistics at an early age will do nothing.
>it's about reported rapes. mongolia has zero cases of rapes. does that mean mongolians are all nice guys?
What is your argument here? you fuckhead? i proofed my one that mudslimes and niggers are more criminal and rape more than any other races in the world and you still talk about the fucking "reported" shit. thats the problem, the statement "in the US a lot of college girls get sexually assaulted" is made up by an investigation that goes like this: question: has another college guy ever asked you to have sex with him? answer: yes
conclusion: she was sexually assaulted
and to your mongolia argument and the whole reported argument: Ethiopia leads the list even in unreported cases. and i seriously doubt that mongolia can compete with that
>>696900224 Well your first post had false equivalencies and ad hominem implications. But the native American genocide isn't what you think it was. They never had the populations that many anti-white historians claim they did and most died from diseases since they didn't have immunity to them. Basically living so far from everyone made them a ticking time bomb.
>>696900404 Statistics is the science of misleading people. I go for another example. >left: unemployment rate has fallen to a low of 4.9% >right: we have an unemployment crisis, over 15 million Americans still without jobs
Again, both correct, but use a different angle on the same statistic.
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