Why is this such a hard decision, /b/ On one side we got a woman that promises paid leave, equal pay, and a lot of other things that benefit our nation. On the other hand we got a man who promises to keep muslims out of america and build a wall. A man who's a bigot. A man that asked Russia to hack America. A man that cites himself. A mam who idolises Vladimir Putin, who in turn, idolises Kim Jong Un. Jong Idolises people like Sadam Hussein. A man who's daughter plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech.
How is this even a contest? Hillary is who we need for president. If Trump is elected this could be America's last election. Seriously some people are blind
>>696841416 it's a popularity contest between 2 of the worst candidates in your country's history, both have used their wealth and connections to subvert the truth, railroad decent candidates, and brainwash the masses... they will say anything to get you morons to vote for them and then they'll never go through with it
>>696843382 >hurr russia da enemie >i havnt thoght bout russia shinch da 90s, but dey da enemie Fuck off gramps. We are allies with saudi arabia and they are exactly like the russians, except more of our politicians get kick backs from them.
>>696843106 Trump is probably the worst, Clinton not by any stretch.
The lies Clinton tells are to the far left libtards who think Sanders was some sort of genius. In actuality, Sanders is a fool who could never accomplish what he aimed to accomplish, and even if he did it would be terrible for the economy. Hillary knows this, but she also knows that without grandpa Bernie's supporters, she'll lose to Trump. So she forced into catering to them when she really would just rather cater to the moderate Republicans and independents.
She'll essentially get the moderates and independents only because of how batshit crazy Trump is, fully expect her to win with ease.
Everyone talking about Mrs. Trump's speach thinking that both of them make their own speaches. No one is talking about his son's speach. Equal pay already exists you fucking idiot. Trump is not a danger to our safety, Hillary is, she already defied the law, she already has killed people, her war policies are more offensive compared to Trump's more defensive policies, and Trump cares about the Safety of the people. Hillary is a Globalist that doesn't realize that not all cultures are compatible. Trump is by far the safety pick if you are a young adult.
>>696841416 Both are fucking shit choices I'll give you that, but if you think for a second fucking SHILLARY, the most corrupt politician I've seen or heard about in my life, is the right choice please KYS.
The woman does everything to hide the fact that she is a criminal who has enriched herself by selling her influence to everyone, including the Russians; just look at the uranium deal she approved while SoS.
I'm not saying Trump is better, I hate Trump, but I hate Clinton too. It's hard to figure out who "the lesser of two evils" is.
>>696844166 they at least have jobs. and they wouldn't have it so bad if not for US/EU embargos. americans always force embargos on countries who they disagree with. I mean how is ukraine unethical and things like irak not
It's almost like you are so fucking ignorant you didn't know John F. Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act in the 19-goddamned-60s. The feminist boogyman of 'muh vagina don't get paid same's a benis' is a fucking lie, you asslicking thundercunt.
Trump is racist when his organization employs thousands of asians, spanish, whites everything? He's racist when he's even dated a black girl and is married to an immigrant? He's racist when he funds and sponsors hundreds of college and job opportunities for literally all ethnicities and religions? His fucking family has jews and gays in it. No but you right, he's a bigot because he's not politically correct. Like putin. But the wholeee world is afraid of/respects moscow, but because of beta faggot BLM bitches like you guys who want free college and all that bullshit, you take for granted the shit you have and act like your opinion matters. Yes, the opinion you have come up with based solely off of the trump memes you've seen while scrolling down your facebook app, made by Mexicans who think trump is racist because he wants to build a wall. Don't build a wall and let illegal immigrants in? Why not let ALL immigrants in then, you guys like having syrians, afghans, Libyans in here free of charge? When your fucking school blows up and you lose someone close to you, remember you could have just voted for trump. But you're right, hillary, an obvious liar who will genuinely say anything to be president (proof if you read the actual emails) is a Farrrrr, better choice. PS major corporations can't 'buy' trump he's already rich. And yes he owns a corporation but he is really looking out for America before anything else, and if that's not what you want go to canada. Not only that, he loves the military for more than hillary and his plan for them is the best a president can offer
The GOP will keep the house majority because they'll disavow every stupid thing Trump says and get Republican leaders who did not endorse Trump to campaign - this is already happening.
Clinton is the perfect choice for president under a GOP house majority. She not only leans moderate, but she also has strong business ties. This will help her negotiate deals that can move America into the future without much backlash from the house.
>>696844880 The fuck are you talking damage control? Every time the government has looked into why the women as a collective make less than men as a collective they conclude that it's because women make choices that put them into positions where they are paid less or work less.
The only way to fix the wage gap is to force women to work more and take jobs they don't want.
>>696844166 >russia hates gays Saudi Arabia throws them from the roof >russia may assassinate journalists Saudi Arabia throws them in prison for years >russia is a big meany head Saudi Arabia is as well, but they have oil so its all good.
Trump is literally retarded, no political experience, playing voters for chumps. He loves the poorly educated.
Hillary is an unlikeable candidate propped up by a corrupt DNC. Put our national security at risk with her emails.
I'll be voting Jill Stein. I don't care if she's a little wacky or has no experience in elected office. She won't win so that doesn't matter. But if third parties make significant gains this year peopl may start to see hem as viable options.
>>696845392 liberals don't have the balls nor leadership to wage a war, killary won't do shit about ISIS, democrats are good for nothing all they do is think of preposterous ideas and think more money will make it work
>>696845050 Don't come to canada we don't want you amerifags. This is ur problem do deal with it. Don't come running over here and bringing all your problems with you. That makes you no better than the immigrants that you are trying to keep out of your country. So fuck off America. Canada is not here for your asylum cuz u let ur country get fucked.
>>696844945 No, I'm not. If the USA don't change their economic policy, the only way to don't be too fucked up because of the next crash (which will be the worse since 1929, at least) will be to go to war with China and Russia.
>>696841416 It's not a hard decision. On one hand you have a candidate who makes their own income from business they built and own and on the other you have a career politician who's money comes from investments and shady deals. No brainer you cuck. Trump 2016
Trump is a shill and will drive the vote to Hillary. He is raising his brand and getting famous while making Hillary look better somehow in comparison. Ego is edging god out. It seems the election is edgy. Psychics must be having fun with the world of shit stirring now. Boil, boil toil and trouble.
OP is idiot, "promises paid leave, equal pay, and a lot of other things" how would she go about doing that?. The election has been promised to Hillary. Trump is just the level of idiot they needed to get the win for her, and even then it might be close.
He was literally just a puppet who sucked Rove's cock from day 1 and did everything the Republican base told him to do. Problem was the Republicans literally thought that they could model an entire party on religious ideals and still be successful. They were right in terms of votes, but very wrong in terms of economics.
We need the old republicans back. Zombie Lincoln for president.
>>696845674 Wtf I was talking about the hundred of emails she deleted when they called her out on her using a private email that's not secure where they ended up finding important classified documents included in the emails she sent
>>696845411 The media will eat it up?! LOL like the way EVERY single thing hillary does or says isn't eaten up? This bitch had obama, BERNIE SANDERS, even goddamn Sarah silverman and Michelle Obama speak on her behalf and how she is the 'only choice'. Are you kidding me? The same beanie sanders who was literally cucked by the same bitch he's now trying to get elected? CUCKED. CUCKED BY HIS OWN PARTY AND NOT ONLY HE BUT EVERYONE HAS GENUINE EVIDENCE. I understand that's probably why you support hillary though. If you came home to me fucking your wife you'd probably support her decision to stay with me and get off on that shit too you goddamn neckbeard pleb.
What would happen if no one voted? Does America need a revolution? What is it going to take to change the way things are done? Why can't our country be like some of the greater countries of the world, what happened to us, when was the United States ever even great? We like to hearken back to the good ol' days just after the war when America was industrialized and on the rise to being a world power, when the American dream of owning a car and having a family and going to church was the staple of every mans dream, but was that ever even a good thing? Obama says America is pretty great right now. I mean it could be worse, but it's also got a lot of problems. I don't even know if its worth choosing a party to vote for, how do I know if I am right or if my beliefs and decisions are correct and justified? How can so many people be wrong? Either side can say anything about the other, and disagree on many different things, but what does it ultimately come down to? Can any of us really make a difference? Are we simply faceless votes that each candidate wants to use in order to win some sort of pissing contest with the other? I am so lost and embarrassed because I am so confused.
>>696845912 First of the Bega situation is not Black and White you are to ignorant to understand the complexities involved . More important than that he has destroyed a lot more than 4 families. He destroyed families and businesses for his own personal gain.
>>696846252 Yeah, you're right, that's the thing. Thoses guys, they got the power since decades, and what has changed ? Not a lot a thing, but still they're saying they'll change a lot all the american system to be perfect. But they didn't do it before, why would they do it now ?
>>696846473 A group of militants. Obama literally tried to stop us from reaching this benchmark by pulling out our troops. He got lucky others are better at their job than he is at his. But yeah, he totally killed Sama Ben Ladle
>>696845899 Instantly stop all nonrenewable sources of energy. This means all those jobs, poof go away. A huge sector of the American workforce is employed by the coal, oil, petrol companies. A ton of jobs from unskilled to highly skilled, just gone. No nuclear energy. So instead of transitioning to nuclear while we build better panels and mills, we just kick those to the curb. Fantastic, American now has shit energy. Without transitioning to nuclear, we now have to rely on chinese patents and technology to power our country. Fantastic, im sure china will love our infusion of capital and new ability to do what they want lest we loss the patents. This doesnt even address the massive amount of taxes we will all be paying to subsidize the energy, and new social programs. So yeah 4 years of a green party America would kill us.
>>696841416 I am convinced all these pro-Hillary threads are just bait. Arguing Trump is a horrible person then voting Hillary is just too ironic.
As the SJWs have proven, if the best argument you have against someone is them being a bigot or racist then you have no argument.
Trump may not work out well but he's the best chance we have from our country turning into the chaos Germany and France are in. If you honestly think Hillary is going to enrich our lives I feel nothing but pity for you. And if she does win I'm going to just enjoy the mayhem. Hopefully the ones that vote for her do the majority of the dying.
Britfag here. Wanted Bernie to win, but since he's out Trump is the only option left. Hillary can fuck off. Would rather have someone who's open about being a cunt rather than some daft bint trying to hide it.
Aside from the whole "throw Muslims over the wall" thing why do people hate Trump?
>>696847033 Yet you still support her. Youre not understanding, support is support. Just because she cant win, doesnt mean people wont see these ideas being supported and try to incorporate them. Dont be a dumbass
>>696845697 Canadians hate asians, I have seen it all over Alberta from Edmonton down to Calgary and then far west to bc, some of the most racist mother fuckers were the Canadians I interacted with when I was there for 6 months working.
>>696846966 Racism, sexism, xenophobia, walking back every other dumb thing he says, "I love the poorly educated", faux conservative, wants to fuck his own daughter, no political experience, policies would literally destroy our economy, etc
>>696842157 you are blind if you can't see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch.
also, hillary and the clinton dems are the epitome of political corruption. There is no denying it anymore after the DNC leaks. Fuck her and everyone who thinks it's ok to be corrupt as long as it benefits them.
First of all it was his wife, secondly Hillary is heavily pro censorship and pro police state. Thirdly stop it with the bait. Both choices are terrible but I think we can survive long enough to impeach whoever wins.
>>696846966 Just tht trump has a history of being a shady business man. Sliny, sleasy kinda guy. Has a reputation for reneging on deals and so forth, fucking over investors, creditors and contractors. Also, he obviously has no filter or aense of restraint when speaking in public. Some assholes thinkbits great because it seems so antiPC, i guess they dont realize its important for our leaders to have measured thoughtful public comments because diplomacy prevents war and conflict and misunderstandings and what not. Also, trump policy on everything is just fucking retarded.
Tldr- trump literally has no redeaming qualities and is a shady motherfucker that can only be trusted to fly off the handle.
>>696847206 Please tell me more in your vast president experience? I'm sure you know more about the economy, construction, political, infrastructure, and foreign relations correlating to each president for the past 8 years compared to every single one of the past presidents we have. Tell this idiot more, please, thanks. Be sure to make it dumb too
>>696847308 hahahahahaha its politics idiot someone has a bias agains one person and not the other !! What a fucking surprise !! An in the republican email they are crapping their pants trying to figure out ways to keep Trump from being there candidate you have taken this FULL RETARD!
>>696847404 >>696847404 Really? They wont look at their playforms and go "hmm maybe we should incorporate some of their themes so we can bring the voters back?" Dont be naive dude. I enjoy people talking about voting third party, but you have to understand what can come from it.
>>696841416 she created alqaeda and ordered many political assasinations outside an inside USA with their paid mercenaries, the other is a egocentric dimwit with an sick/racist/mysogynist point o view (just like ol Ronnie Reagan).... we are fucked anyway BUT TRUMP will not negotiate with Towelheads, he wants them dead, but Hillary wants their MONEY!!!
>>696846473 Navy SEALs, I think. I like Obama, and I'm glad that shit happened, but don't pretend like the US wasn't working on that shit since 9/11, and don't pretend like Obama did anything more than say "go for it" over the phone.
Just let them have Trump, I'm actually excited to see how much he can fuck up your already fucked systems. The civilized world is already laughing at you for managing to get him as a candidate in your fantastic two party system
>>696841416 I don't understand your logical process. I don't imagine Putin idolizes a man who, on many occasions he has denounced publicly and withdrawn aid. I suppose Clinton has done the same thing as Putin on that account. Is that why your voting for Hillary? Secondly, it seems like your grounds for voting one way or another based on personality and a candidate's unconfessed idolization towards another world leader. Why not, instead weight the policies of both AND all others on the ballot? Should only take an afternoon to go through most of them...
>>696847694 What makes you think they'll blindly incorporate all of the shit policies, disregarding the disenfranchisement felt by voters and the non-shit policies. Major policy changes don't happen on a whim or without significant research.
>>696841869 He fights for the truthiness. It sure feels like crime is up in big cities. It sure feels like we cant say merry Christmas. It sure feels like illegals are tsking our jobs. It sure feels like Obama is a muslin of course none of these "facts" actually check out, but meh freedoms are at steak here. We need a strong leader with a good business sense, and it sure feels like he's the man for the job.
>>696848100 Look at clinton How much has she change this primary season? How much has she changed in 20 years? Sure it doesnt happen overnight, but it happens. And they listen to the loudest screamers. You get a bunch of tree huggers who support the green party, out protesting after a green party victory of 15%. Do you really think they wont listen?
Trump all the way. Anti-establishment is he change that we need.
He scares the establishment types too, so that is why the constant barrage of false narratives like him being racist misogynist etc..
They have even driven curious types to his rallies because they say he's like Hitler, etc.. These people were only later shocked to find that they guy actually made sense, and have since become Trump supporters.
Meanwhile the DNC played dirty to rig their primary and oust their anti-establishment candidate. Then they get caught with their pants down with the email hack, and proceed to blame Trump...... How the fuck? Seriously guys? This makes you look so lame, and is so transparent.
Next the Bernie delegates walked out on them only to have their seats filled by paid seat fillers with ads posted on craigslist.
This is a Bernie delegate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc
tl;dr Hillary and the DNC are so corrupt, that they should literally be arrested and sent to prison, yet the sheeple still support her as long as they get promises of freebies to be had.
>>696848655 Is bigger than that you black and white fool ! He would put someone in the SUPREME court that will bring this country BACK TO THE DARK AGES!! How small minded are you . This are complex issues that non educated mind can't understand Kid stay home don't waste a vote.
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