I think OP actually is an example of the Dunning Kruger effect.
For those who don't know. it's a phenomenom where idiots think they're smart (Brian Griffin - Family Guy). It may also apply to smart people who believe they're nothing special and believe tasks that are easy for them are easy for everyone.
>>696741523 Ironically, im pretty sure this applies more to Bernie supporters >stupid black people, we're trying to help you! >WE know what's best for you so stop complaining and attack the mean republicans instead!
>>696741523 The more the DNC tries to push itself as the party of the smart and casts its detractors as stupid or uneducated who cant make decisions for themselves the harder they are going to get pushed back. The educated urban liberal is hated everywhere other than their own circles.
>>696744444 Rather than emboldening the Right, I think it's just weakening their own base.
I've typically been a left-leaning independent, even registered independent when my teacher forced us to register back in HS. But the Dems are completely repulsive to me at this point. I was surprised during the primary season when I found myself hoping for a Ryan encampment to help oust Trump, turn the Right away from the bullshit they've courted for about a decade now, and teach the Left a lesson. But here we are...
Trump being in any position of political power at all is disheartening as fuck. I can say so for Hillary as well. I honestly cannot fathom that we as a nation cannot produce better at that level. Maybe its my own insular bubble since i work in academic research where everyone is smart as shit but i mingle with the plebs, theyre not that dumb. It seems like people are just dissatisfied with life but it always baffles me how fuckin misguided they are about what the solution is. It feels like the capitalist revolution has begun to eat its own children.
Nice try, taking the intellectual highground by using "big words" to seem like a smart guy, which is by itself an aspect of the the Dunning-Kruger effect, further underlining your pseudo-intellectal position by using a classic "No True Scotsman" fallacy, making fundamentalistic claims about the thinking capacity of Trump voters. By itself, the effect which you used so nicely in your ramblings is hardly related to the matter, only being relevant to the creator of the image but neither to Trump or his supporters. So please, next time you shitpost, put some effort in it without leaving no room for discussion by embarrassing yourself from the very start.
>>696746644 Republicans only regards to racial issues is vehemently denying that they're racist Did you forget all the butthurt when blm crashed Bernie's speech and all his supporters were getting upset cause 'Bernie's for the people'?
>>696748886 He turned a million dollar loan into 250 million of renewable annual income. He pulls a billion dollars every 4 years. He's there because he has the ability. The Clinton's were kissing his ass in the photos they took together. They were trying to butter him up to get political welfare. The only way they understand how to make money is corruption and bribes.
Shit hillary took money from countries openly hostile to the US which is referee to directly in the constitution article 1 section 9. How the fuck can you be sworn into the presidency, take the oath to protect the constitution, and be directly violating it living off foreign bribes?
>>696748931 We aren't really fighting ISIS, obama has had multiple opportunities to wipe them out, but he always holds back.
When bombing their oil trucks he had them drop pamplets telling them that they should evacuate because we are going to bomb their trucks an hour in advance just to make sure we didn't kill any of them.
As the US generals are retiring and can speak out against Obama, they do, because he is a dipshit. He is advocating dispensing islamic followers into every country and his advocacy is what is leading to these bombings.
He grew up muslim and he still is a little shit stain cuck for them.
>>696749983 who cares? they're weak and inefficient especially in the US. 5 or 6 people killed here and there. fuck, more people die by accident. and i bet you with every attack, more lives are saved in other ways, through people uniting and not killing each other fora few days.
>>696749967 His father didn't give him 500 busineses. His father's net worth was about 250 million. That's the amount of income Trump makes in a single year. You are just buying into the liberal bullshit without looking into the facts.
>>696748886 I think both are a disgrace but all the Trump supporters I've met are a sepcial kind of stupid. They say his name like an old wop cunt says the rosary. If some story on the news-any network-mentions Russia they murmur "Donald Trump".They can't tell you why. They seem ignorant to the fact that Trump has a crush on Putin and vice-versa. It's like when the nogunz cabal murmur "Hillary will end gun violence" whenever there's a mass shooting. Even though violent crime is at a low. Fuck this gay earth.
Yuuuuppppppppppppppppp. Anyone who votes for Trump has autism. Like consciously making the decision to fuck your country in the ass. I will say that watching the Republican party crash and burn since 2000 has been great though.
>>696750298 You're the one being a cuck coward shitbag. Islam slowly kills off every other culture and you can be a complacent liberal fagwad and write it off if you want. That's your right limp wrist.
About 11,000 people die every year from gun homicides. In the Sep 11th attacks about 3,000 or just under people died. That is to say islam killed a figure equivalent to 20 to 30 percent of gun homicides in the US in one year.
Actually a good amount of the gun homicides were actually islamic murders in the US that year too.
Have you ever studied the formation of Pakistan or why it was formed. Your bitch ass needs a history lesson.
>>696751259 I guess that means no, you don't understand how Pakistan was formed because you're a dipshit child. Islam spreads by slowly killing everyone else off, that's why so many middle eastern countries are about 98 percent islam, because they murder everyone else.
You not standing up and opposing them makes you a weak pussy piece of shit. Fear fear fear. You're afraid to oppose anyone else. Enjoy wearing things and panties bitch.
>>696751600 And they are inanimate objects that tens of millions of people use every day to kill no one.
Again, you can own a gun and not subscribe to the belief of murdering people because they don't agree with you.
Islam on the other hand is a belief system that calls for the death of those that do not believe what they believe.
If you stray from this then you are not a true follower of islam.
and considering how many muslim countries are shitholes rules by sharia law and the fact that the FBI has received no assistance with domestic terror investigations since 9/11 I would assume that a lot if not the majority are serious muslims.
>>696752301 he got a bump from the convention idiot. it was exdpected.
and anyway that's just popular vote. here in the US we have something called the electoral college. he has a large uphill battle for those states he needs to win. that isn't reflected in some single poll.
>>696751728 No, you choose to ignore my reference because you don't understand why. That also is part of why you don't support Trump, because you don't understand money or economics.
A lot of his actual beliefs are fairly progressive. He has supported the legalization of pot before as well as abortion. He may say bullshit niw like Hilary does to get elected, but he's a pretty laid back libertarian on a lot of fronts and is on record as such.
You don't need to think I'm "pretending" to be smart. I graduated summa cum laude with 3 degrees and run part of the CA state's administration. So you can suck my fucking balls.
>>696752226 I know you don't care about Pakistan. What you are really saying is that you have no idea how it was formed or why. If you objectively studied it on your own without being babied into liberalism by teachers and parents and you had a real grounding in the history of Islam you would think differently.
>>696752553 >The GOP doesn't keep losing because the last presidential candidate wasn't a big enough asshat.
>keep losing >one presidency
The GOP barely lost to Obama twice and they nominated Neocon cuckservatives that conservatives hate.
Trump gained more votes than any other GOP candidate in history, couple that with the recordbreaking turnout in the GOP primaries and the downtrending turnout for the DNC and their shitshow of a convention with the most crooked candidate in recent history with more to come and the communist betraying 46% of their primary voters.
This election is going to be fun watching democrats cry themselves to sleep.
>>696753624 Let them, they have a right to think whatever the fuck they want. This whole election is shit, it's making everyone spew their ideas like everyone gives a shit. I can't fathom why there is so many political posts anymore, no one listens, they only argue and both walk away feeling like they're better than the other person.
>>696754760 >>those emails are just russian propaganda! Because foreign influence is only bad then those corrupt democraps benefit it. When righteous Trump benefits, it's good, because it benefits Trump.
>"I-IT'S CLEAR WHY ALL THIS IS HAPPENING! I'M THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM! ME AND ALL THE OTHER SMARTEST GUYS IN THE ROOM WILL NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP! WE-WE'RE TOO SMART! MUH GENDER STUDIES DEGREE, REEEEEEEEEEEE"
As I keep saying to you "intellectuals" on the Left: perhaps if you're truly as smart as you think you are, you should own up to the very clear fact that you're all shit educators, and that you've failed, for YEARS, to educate anybody on what you're constantly on about.
Personally though, I think you're all dumb as dogshit ;^)
So, let the Syrian refugees sweep across Europe like locusts? Even if we ignore the chaos in Grrmany from average muslims, the rape crisis in Sweden from average muslims, chanting how nonbelievers need to be beheaded in he UK, and how backwards he political elite are in covering eyes and ears, should we still bring them in if we A. Have no idea who they are or where they come from with no vetting? B. Know there is a definite chance that ISIS is interspersed with the migrants And C. Don't even know why Europe and Germany HAVE to accept the Syrians even though there are dozens of middle eastern and north African countries with the same culture and values
>>696757028 But any "legitimate" news or research source you trust is biased in the opposite direction... desperately searching for anything they can publish that will win them political points and therefore views and money.
>>696750953 >assumes we think every Muslim is a terrorist >ignores that we're talking about the very obvious link between Islam and terrorism and how this should be talked about rather than shoved under a blanket of islamophilia
>>696756857 >>696757028 Just can't win, eh? You try to discredit an argument that islam is dangerous for some reason I can't fathom, probably because you're tired of your political party's frontrunners being called pussies for trying to prevent as much extra violence as possible from breaking out between christians and muslims. Doesn't it seem strange to you that they're so afraid of violence breaking out among "peaceful" muslims and "peaceful" christians?
Religious views that are taken too seriously cost people their lives almost constantly in this modern terrorism pandemic... why does it matter whether or not there are exact numbers supporting the claim that there is a problem?
Will you at least admit that there is a problem with religion? Clinton isn't willing to do that, she doesn't want to do anything about it because it's a lose lose situation for someone in politics to step in publicly.
>>696757126 It's probably more like 20 to 40 million are in favor of killing other cultures. Please tell me this isn't the same person that I've been asking to look into the history of the formation of pakistan.
What is the population of pakistan? What is their religion and why was the country formed?
>>696757691 Why do you try to argue social problems with statistics and numbers anyway? What advantage does that give you other than shutting down your opponent, whoever that happens to be, and thus shutting down all conversation about the topic.
Is it so scary to talk about something based on human nature.... philosophically? Without any numbers attached?
>>696757126 If you think about it in an abstract sense... there are a large number of Americans that constantly talk about bombing the middle east to solve the problem of perceived threat right?
Then is it such a leap to imagine that other parts of the world have large numbers of people that think the same way? It doesn't help that the USA happens to be the most visible country in the world for all its connections and economy and military intervention.
>>696758612 No, I already know about it. The reason you don't understand other people's opinions here and are so deluded is because you don't know very much about history in general (especially the history of Islam apparently).
>>696758985 what you're asking is what % of the US population would be unconcerned with middle easterners being killed. and yeah, that would probably be as high as 25%. maybe even more. i include myself in there. just don't give a fuck about the muslims.
basically that number is meaningless. you're right.
>>696758818 But talking about a situation with numbers makes it less real to you. And since you bring up "feels" you do know that feels are what drive public and foreign policy all over the world right? That's been the case since humans first started grouping together and warring with other tribes. You get a gut feeling that you have a problem with another tribe? You attack them. That's normal and acceptable.
But you don't have to talk about human nature through the lens of feels either. You can at least acknowledge that humans are bound to be violent no matter what safeguards you put in their way, and the less educated a population is on average, the more violent they will be.
>>696759426 Aren't you a coward too, by your own philosophy? You're calling other people cowards, but what does that accomplish?
Does it matter if a superpower is cowardly or brave when it crushes some ants? Does it matter if it's cowardly or brave when it chooses not to crush those ants? Individuals being cowardly or not has nothing to do with the decisions a country takes. Especially when it comes to the USA, it's all about financial and political (which results in more financial) gain.
>>696759829 how am i a coward? i mean, i am scared of some shit. legitimate shit, not terrorists. the chances of me being killed by one, by even ever coming face to face with any sort of weapon used as a threat, is so fucking low that it's silly to worry about it.
yes when you are concerned with something that there is something like a 0.0000001% chance of it happening to yuo, yes, you are a coward. it's important to at least accept that fact.
>>696759890 There's no money to be earned conducting a study on the general opinions of muslims on gays, and you probably wouldn't learn what they really think anyway. They're allowed by their religion to lie about the teachings of islam so they can fit in.
>>696759415 >But talking about a situation with numbers makes it less real to you.
But arguing based on feelings when statistical evidence is in stark contrast to your feelings is nonsensical.
>And since you bring up "feels" you do know that feels are what drive public and foreign policy all over the world right?
>You get a gut feeling that you have a problem with another tribe? You attack them. That's normal and acceptable.
For cavemen and sub saharans, western civilization has evolved to the point where we can weigh our options and make warring decisions based on whether or not another society is actually a threat to us.
Whether the entire populace agrees or the politicians enact the wishes of the people is another issue but we are not limited simply to gut feelings anymore.
>You can at least acknowledge that humans are bound to be violent no matter what safeguards you put in their way
Not necessarily, and those that do in many cases have justification.
Self defense of person or country are justifiable reasons for violence.
>gibs me dat and >they don't believe what I believe
>and the less educated a population is on average, the more violent they will be.
and once again sub saharans and muslims lead in this regard
>>696758188 in japan LAST WEEK a guy with a knife killed 19 people, in France LAST WEEK a guy with a knife beheaded a priest, two weeks ago a guy with a truck killed 84 people...are you really REALLY sure that guns are the problem here?
>>696760141 But anon, have you considered that there are people that are concerned about other peoples' safety in the world?
Have you ever thought that maybe it's a bad thing that people are dying to sate the bloodlust of religious extremists? Have you ever considered that it would be extremely exciting to watch 500,000 nuclear warheads go off at the same time, blanketing an entire country in hellfire and radioactive clouds of horror just to kill a very small minority of the population that has gotten uppity?
>>696760268 It just shows he is not even remotely informed on an issue he is so driven to legislate. If his goal was to save lives he would say don't use a shotgun or a handgun, get a rifle, they are the least used type of firearm for homicide but still very effective for defense.
>>696760632 Why is it a problem to blame THEM instead of US?
Doesn't it make more sense for people to trust what is more similar rather than different? Doesn't it make sense to purge the OTHER group when both sides have the opinion that the other should be eliminated? Or is it just your contrarian view that the majority HAS to be wrong because people are stupid bigots?
Why should other people have to keep dying because people like you WANT them to or don't care, or think both sides are at fault? What's wrong with grouping together as a country and saying "we protect our own, f*ck everybody else"?
>>696760836 It pisses me off that abortion is always a leading presidential issue. We have so many more important issues to deal with. And making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortions from happening.
Trump has to be anti-abortion as a conservative if he wants to win.
There has never been an atheist elected to congress or the presidency. Atheism is quite common at anywhere from 20 to 40% in the USA depending on the survey. There have been thousands of congressmen/women.
Do you realize the statistical anomaly it would have to be for all of them to really be atheist? Or perhaps they know being atheist is a major disadvantage in the polls, so they pick the smart choice on a stupid non-issue in order to keep votes.
>>696761694 What's wrong with grouping together as a country and saying "we protect our own, f*ck everybody else"? Because they totally didn't do that when we started fucking around in their countries? Can you not see the cycle of making terrorists? When you sit there and kill their families, why would they not want to destroy you?
>>696761841 Yes, and if her reason had been, "I met a gay guy he is actually pretty okay" I wouldnt be bringing it up. I don't like shillary anymore than these tea party members do, but if you would rather have a literal reality tv star as president instead of a career politician you arent thinking things through. It doesnt matter that she is corrupt or evil or a robot. While Trump was busy approving golden toilet seats from his airplanes shillary was doing a job in the field we are currently electing people for.
>>696761553 There are definitely two side to every coin but... if a judge took your philosophy to heart, wouldn't every single criminal trial end with nothing being done?
Sure party A robbed party B, but wasn't party B asking for it, the judge asks... Maybe there's more to the story here and we're just not looking deep enough, the judge says. I'm not going to make a decision on this issue because it's impossible to apply this one situation to the entire life of an individual, the judge concludes.
In the same way that judge's decision seems absurd, isn't it absurd that the group within islam that is attacking us continue to exist unpunished? Isn't it crazy that you call for no punishment whatsoever for the propaganda that keeps being spread over the internet and other media that non-muslims need to be killed?
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