>>696566865 The trick is to just find a demon with good terms. Like most things in life, it's a matter of negotiation.
A few tips: Don't go for the ones that will seek you out. If a demon goes out of its way to find a human, it isn't worth dealing with. It's probably just trawling for souls or looking for cheap eternal labor. Don't make a deal with anyone claiming to be the devil. The devil doesn't make deals in person. Pick a demon whose personality compliments yours, because after you sell your soul they WILL influence you, even if they aren't trying to. I was always quite asexual, so I chose a lust demon who slowly corrupted me into a raging horndog. Choose wisely.
>>696567602 This! >>696567624 >Don't go for the ones that will seek you out. If a demon goes out of its way to find a human, it isn't worth dealing with. It's probably just trawling for souls or looking for cheap eternal labor. And this!
You should seek out a demon who doesn't typically make deals. If they come to you, tell them to fuck off. You should be looking for them.
And don't let them take the high ground in the negotiation. Make them want your soul, take the initiative!
I think I've tried to sell my soul a couple of times now It doesn't seem like it ever worked either time Unless of course it did and my stoner memory serves me poorly... Can't say I'm all that disappointed to be h
>>696568522 Bruh. >>696567963 Typically I'll use an intermediary. Obviously for a vanilla mortal like myself contacting demons is EXTREMELY dangerous. Usually as a simple matter of principle they'll try to kill you just for wasting their time. What I'll usually do is research a demon for whatever purposes I need, then once I have it's Name (capital letter is significant there, most demons have many names, but their true Name can summon them. You won't be personally summoning them, but your messenger will need it to find your demon. For messengers I recommend minor faeries. They're quick, small, bindable by contract, and no one misses them if they get killed). Then I'll pay an intermediary to offer them a contract of negotiation on behalf of an "anonymous part" (myself). The contract is basically just an agreement saying they'll sit and talk when we meet, rather than tearing my throat out or something. If they sign, the intermediary will report back, and negotiations can begin.
>>696569472 Also, it's worth noting that selling your soul is a one time thing. I've had dozens of dealings with demons, but you should find other things to negotiate with. Your soul is a lot like your virginity: you only lose it once, so choose well. My soul is currently in the beautiful hands of a lust demon matriarch known publicly as Tyhia. I chose her because she's reputable, known for fair dealings, and my post-death service to her will be roughly what it is now: intelligence gathering and the occasional bit of networking. This brings me to the real thing you can offer a demon.
Demons usually don't understand humans very well. Even more empathetic demons like Tyhia and her kind don't generally understand human behavior outside their sphere of influence. Sure, Tyhia could give you a boner without even trying, but she has trouble with morality and human motivation beyond base needs. You can offer a demon understanding of human behavior, especially modern technology, which they're terrible with. Offer your services as a consultant, just be sure to make sure they understand why this is useful. >>696569706 Sure thing. You really should take a course on this though. I studied for six years before i contacted my first demon. This isn't amateur hour. If you fuck up you'll get killed if you're lucky. >>696569877 Oh fuck off, he doesn't make house calls.
>>696570384 >If you fuck up you'll get killed if you're lucky. THIS. This so much. You have no idea how often I get hired for a consulting job by some young fucking goth teeny bopper who wants to summon a demon for shits and giggles. Sure, I'll take their money, but almost without exception, they end up getting killed. You're dealing with an ancient immortal being who's been slaughtering humans and worse for thousands of years. The only advantage humans have is preparation and training. You lose your advantages and you're dead, THE END.
There are like four people EVER who survived a botched summoning.
>>696571176 >Preparations I'm not him so I won't speak for him, but odds are he'll tell you the same thing: you need training. There are schools for this shit. When summoning a demon you need wards created specifically to bind that demon. Most wards are similar in structure to an advanced mathematical equation, with the demon and summoning conditions representing variables. People study for decades to learn this.
Even someone like me who has the equivalent of a masters in this is only considered to be a journeyman. >What do I get from the bargain. Well first off, and most perhaps most obviously to most people, I get the attention of a millennia old lust demon matriarch. I'd say she's pretty like a model, but near as I can tell there's no models as pretty as her.
More substantially, I get access to considerably more resources than I'd have otherwise.
But more than anything she offers me security: rather than throwing myself before the judgement of a god that may or may not exist when I die, she'll be taking my soul, and because we're both bound by contract, I know exactly what will be done with it. No moral ambiguity, no uncertainty, just specific conditions and obligations to be met.
It is yet you seem to believe it's a simple transaction as like buying bread. This is not the case.
To gain favor of certain elements you must give yourself to the ideology of that which is summoned. Giving your soul is a complete statement but before you barter you must know your product. There is no simplicity of 'I'd give my soul for this', it's a practice that requires expertise and courage.
>>696572580 You should probably make it more clear who you were talking to there. >>696572565 >>696572247 Don't give him the fucking contact! If you're clued in then you know as well as I do why that's a bad idea.
>>696572930 The fuck? No, of course not. This isn't mystical mind dream metaphysical shit, it's just science. Put in the right set of variables into the right equation and add enough energy, and you get the right frequency to contact certain beings.
The process of summoning a demon is 30% research, 30% math, 30% preparation, and 10% luck. Drugs don't help with any of that.
>>696572580 The fuck are you even talking about? Are you one of those satanist emotional "demons need your true belief" types? What, you just couldn't make it through school? Hit the math classes and dropped out, so now you pretend to know how to summon because you can't deal with your failure? Leave the summoning to professionals sweetheart.
>>696572930 This is unquestionably dangerous. While in any state of inebriation logic dispels to 'want'. This is especially so with drugs that peel the viel of the worlds. This is akin to going to a gun fight with a knife. The elements that seek mortal interaction are forces of binding and bondage. To seek these things without total control is folly.
>>696574061 I ask because I was contacted by some weird entities on a bad trip, had a hard time identifying them. Definitely not trying to contact through this method, just still trying to figure out who/what I talked to 4 years later.
>>696574252 For obvious reasons I don't want to give you the specific wording of my contract, but more or less, I didn't so much trade my soul as I did offer services in exchange for Tyhia taking custody of my soul. In exchange for my services (she gets half my time, measured yearly. So six months a year, I'm hers. She can take that as every other day, or by month, or whatever, but once she's used up a total of six months of my time, I'm free for the rest of the year). In exchange she cares for my soul after death and ensures I always have the resources I need for my research and my work for her. >>696574328 Not necessarily. If you negotiate well, you'll be set. I, for example, am funded for life, and even after I die, my soul goes to a trusted ally and colleague. Deal well and you'll be fine. Just make sure you actually know how. >>696574671 The "entity contact" was probably a hallucination, friend. Demons can't just pop into your mind because you're high. Sorry.
People trip all the time and think it's an entity, when odds are it isn't. Certain spirits of nature will contact you if you know what you're doing, but it requires a fair amount of practice and training to do, and the spirits have to know you, they won't just contact any old fuck. The only person I ever saw do it was a Dine Holy Man (an indian medicine man), and he'd been a practitioner for more than a century.
>>696575249 Yeah... Sorry anon, but... >>696575597 This. Any demon is going to be able to tell that you're going to die soon, so if this is true you'll NEVER get good terms. At this point it's best to just make peace with it and meet death with grace, because any demon who's willing to deal with you will fuck you in the ass.
>>696575677 Really? I've been apart of two rituals but they were both South American. sounds interesting, to be an Indian. Though I suspect nationality does little, it's just a more prominent culture in South America.
>>696576049 Look, if you're really desperate I'd recommend you contact a professional for this, but it'll be expensive. Like, seriously expensive. There are maybe two dozen people in the WORLD who are qualified for this kind of work, and I'm not one of them. On the rare occasional that I do consulting work (note that this isn't an offer, it's just a point of reference) I usually charge anywhere from 2.5-10 thousand an hour, plus a retainer of 25k that I'll sometimes waive if it's just a quick consulting job. Now consider that I'm not even qualified for this level of fast negotiation; I wouldn't take this job. You'd be looking at the top arcanists in the world for this kind of fast, deceptive negotiation.
>>696576447 Sorry, to be clear I should have said native american, not indian. You may not know this if you aren't an amerifag, but in norht america we colloquially call native americans, indians. It's stupid, yes, but you can look it up if you don't believe me. >Been part of two rituals. I can believe it, though it's important to know that nature spirits and demons are a whole different ball of wax. Having a couple encounters with nature spirits is entirely different from contacting a demon. Even the most dangerous, predatory nature spirits are generally safer to call than a demon (with a few exceptions. There are a few oceanic and african preditor spirits that can go toe to toe with a fucking demon lord, though part of that is speculation. As you can imagine researching these entities is difficult due to their danger potential).
Death is NOT the worst thing that can happen to you when you go chasing this kind of entity. Actually, death is about the best thing that could happen, if you get really lucky. I can't in good conscious give you information that would lead to your inevitable death and the likely theft of your soul.
>>696577305 Ahh ok that makes more sense. Though I personally disagree that 'nature spirits' and 'Demons' are not alike. Entities that don't experience mortality have a very similar vibe to me. I'm by no means an expert practitioner but from what I've felt the two labels are one.
On one hand, yes they are similar, but at the same time they're also very different. That may sound like a contradiction, but hear me out.
Like I said, I've studied this for six years, so I have roughly the equivalent of a master's degree, and while that's far from a master (you're not considered a master until you've fully completed your schooling, which takes anywhere from 25-40 years, and you also need to have summoned and bound a level 4+ entity).
I guess you could think of this kind of thing as different kingdoms of animals. Nature spirits and demons may both me metaphysical beings, but we classify them differently for cataloging purposes. Both are metaphysical beings, and both need an investment of energy to interact with the physical world (this is why so many demon rituals have animal or human sacrifices, the investment of energy is needed for the demon to physically interact with the world). Nature spirits also need an investment of energy, but they can actually aquire it themselves, typically from the ecosystem around them, ie an oceanic spirit could aquire energy from the ocean, a desert spirit from the desert, etc.
Try not to get too metaphysical and spacey. This stuff is science, not magic.
>>696578670 >>696578995 This obviously can't do anything, there's no investment of energy. Even if by some miracle you did manage to call up a demon (which you won't, but more on that later) it couldn't do anything because it would have no energy with which to interact with the physical world. Come on dude, even the satanist crowd know you need an energy investment (though they typically sacrifice an animal, which is a rather inefficient way to do it).
Plus you can't call an entity with this, as there's no frequency alteration, no investment of energy, and most laughably, THERE'S NO TRUE NAME. Come on...
>>696579438 What? Better? No, it's cheaper, but not better. That's like saying "US law for dummies" is better than a lawyer, because it's a fifteen dollar book versus a professional that will charge 300$ an hour for consulting.
>>696579438 At least that guy knows what he's fucking doing. That infographic is the metaphysical equivalent coloring page. It won't do a fucking thing. It's missing four of the five summoning factors, and it doesn't even have a ward, so even if by some act of god you manage to call an entity, it'll just kill you.
>>696579583 Dude i would pay for this "arcanist" for this summoning. And if nothing would happen i would shoot that motherfucker in the head. Not like he/she is going to call upon a blizard , or gona firebolt me.
>>696578977 This is just personal experience for me. I'm from Chilean decent and my father's father spoke of spirits and elements and such. My father discounted them, as did I. Until I took some shrooms. As another anon posted, this experience made me think of things absurd. My journey began then. I've flown down to Chile and Nicaragua and sat with shamans to explore further, and I can only give my account of what I felt. I'm not studied in this, but it's reality is true.
I'm very interested in your posts because you seem to be studied on this, while I've just blundered online for answers.
>>696579795 He literally said he wouldn't do it, because he didn't feel qualified enough. You can try to pay him but he said he won't try. Still, no need to get uppity, we're all delusional demon-summoning friends here.
>>696579950 >Just my take Yeah, and that's fair, totally! A lot of pre-industrial cultural lineages will have simplified pseudo-religious summoning and communication techniques in their mythology and lore. They may put different words to it "making an offering to the spirits of the earth" when in reality you're grounding energy to attract a spirit. Kind of like how primitive herbal medicine will heal, even if they call it different things. "Here, this herb will drive out the bad blood!" The herb still heals, even if they don't say why. There have actually been a lot of advancements from arcanists talking with tribal societies to research their methods. Certainly they aren't advanced, but they often times know things that we don't. >>696579987 To be honest, I don't know what to tell you. Most masters don't take on apprentices just because they ask. I was recruited because I saved my master's life when I was younger. I spent most of my years as a servant/ward/foster child of hers, before she started training me. Different masters accept apprentices based on different reasons, and the major academies only accept from certain bloodlines. Even as progressive as our community tends to be, we do have a few old superstitions and biases, sadly.
First off, how old are you? Training has to start young.
>>696579987 >>696580411 Also this! A lot of people start learning through family. Actually MOST people, probably. Certified practicing Arcanists are pretty rare, we only represent one corner of the metaphysical community, if admittedly a very old, very rich corner.
Most practitioners are shamans or medicine men who know a bit, or folk practitioners who learned from their parents. They won't be summoning and binding any demons, but they can tell you how to undo a hex or avoid a bad spirit, or offer a True Blessing.
As a side note, FUCK BLESSINGS
That shit is the one fucking metaphysical phenomenon we can't really quanitfy or categorize, Is it a spell? NOPE, no catalyst! Is it a ritual, NOPE, only human entities! FUCK.
Blessings are to metaphysical science as gravity is to unified forces in physics.
Ok, I don't study theology and what not so correct me if i'm wrong, but since the soul is basically the fiber of your consciousness wouldn't it just kill you and then make you a demon's bitch for all eternity?
>>696581102 Yes, actually, all practicing arcanists are athiest, at least publicly. We approach things through science and reason, so gods are kind of antithetical to that, to a certain extent. Though you might be surprised how many "gods" are actually just very powerful spiritual entities. >>696581175 Eh... You're getting up there in age. Training generally starts young because you have to be immunized to metaphysical energy over time. There's a reason practitioners always start young. If you're already 17-20 or so, you're probably too old to be a true practitioner.
That said, you can still be a researcher or consultant, you'll just never be a true practitioner, because you won't be able to safely act as a conduit for high energy channeling. >>696581262 I'll have to take your word on it. I don't study folk practition vary much, but what I have done has been mostly focused on East Asian and European traditions, as I myself am of chinese descent, and my master is French. I haven't looked into any south american tradtions very much, although I did work with a Dine holy man for a few years, so I picked up a bit about North American traditions (though not much. We basically spent two years on the road tracking a naagloshi trying to kill the fucking thing. NOT. EASY. There's not much they can do to a holy man, but fuck if they can't tear up anything else).
>>696581633 From what I gather the demons they are talking about arent necessarily Christian demons, because they also talk about nature spirits and shit. Also they keep saying its just science and math. These demons are more like metaphysical beings, and arent necessarily evil either.
>>696581587 Death is a mortal idea. Service is unending. Say you know how to communicate with the other realm, it's like a market. You go from stand to stand in search of what you want. The problem is that the cost is action. The elements want confusion and chaos because it is not known to them. Imagine hearing quantum theories while in grade school. They simply cannot understand mortality because they've never experienced it.
When I was younger I was a huge Christfag even though I was raised by non-religious parents. I prayed every night before bed and didn't curse and tried to be a good person and had bible verses written down and stuff. For years I considered myself a Christian and believed in God and everything until one day for whatever reason I decided I wanted to sell my soul to Satan. I told him and pleaded with him and I think I cried. I didn't think anything of it but after that I was not into Christianity anymore, started going on 4chan, started being a more mean person for no reason, became anorexic, started cutting my arms, swearing, doing sexual stuff, tried alcohol and marijuana, got in trouble in school, hated my parents, etc. I never thought it had anything to do with anything, but who knows? I consider myself an agnostic now (I'm 22), but I believe there is something to religion and there are things beyond this world that we cannot comprehend.
Sorry for the capslock, but never contact an angel. EVER. There's a reason that whenever they appear in the old testament they open by saying "BE NOT AFRAID"
Give me a demon any day, at least you know what they're going to do.
Plus they're harder to call. There's never been a successful summoning of an angel. They show up when they damn well please. >>696582298 >>696581587 We've covered this. It's dealing. Negotiation. See this >>696575042 >>696582485 They don't. Drugs aren't useful in summonings, if you're going after a demon. You want to be high while dealing with a fucking demon? >>696582618 Its kind of an exclusive club, sadly. There are only about a hundred masters in the world, and probably about two thousand students/journeymen on top of that.
>>696582778 I probably will once my current research is done. There's a lot of research funding out there for young practitioners who are willing to tramp out into the boonies to learn from folk practitioners. Older scholars and arcanists may scoff from their ivory towers at the lowly folk practitioners below, but truth is that a lot of advancements come from primitive cultures. High energy conversion came from Durham's study of Voodoo practitioners. Healing crystals were debunked by Li Xian's study of native american practitioners. >>696583182 I've never even heard of that, so I'm guessing it's BS. I'll look it up now, give me a second. If might just be a folk practitioner thing I've never heard of.
>>696583480 Yeah, pretty much. Mine is one of only three female masters on the planet, and the gender split among practitioners is like 90/10. As "advanced" and 'logical" as arcanist practitioners tend to be, we don't tend to be the most progressive lot, though that is changing.
>>696582298 What is beyond life for the average Joe? It's life's unanswered question and I'm damn curious to know what will happen. I do know that energy cannot cease, so my "soul" will end up somewhere... correct?
>>696582298 That's... That's not strictly accurate. I could be wrong, but to me you seem like either you're a layman who doesn't know what he's talking about or at the very least you're being misleading. Saying we can't understand death because we've never experienced it is inaccurate. There are littlerally hundreds of papers released by practitioners who sold their soul, died, and were able to relay the experience from wherever they ended up. It's not like we're lacking in accounts or data here.
>>696584036 We just don't know, and if anyone else tells you they do know, they're either lying or mistaken. We can tell what happens to souls that are sold or contracted to metaphysical entities because we can find and interact with them. They can even be summoned if you have an UNBELIEVABLE amount of resources and the consent of whatever entity that has their soul.
There are a lot of theories, but we don't actually have a testable answer.
>>696583900 Demons because they're easy to contact and summon if you know how. Angels because. Uhg, fuck angels man. Angels are harder to quantify. They're way more powerful than demons, and there don't seem to be very many of them, but they also take different forms and they tend to be utterly fucking terrifying. There's a reason whenever an angel appears in the old testament they greet people by saying "be not afraid."
They can't be summoned, they tend to just show up whenever and wherever they want, sometimes to turn the course of history, other times to do seemingly innocuous things. For example, the angel Uriel basically nuked a few cities in ancient Mesopotamia (this is where the myth of fire and brimstone falling on Sodom and Gomorrah comes from), but then seventy two years ago, Uriel appeared in the stronghold at Edinburgh, turned all the clocks back an hour, then disappeared.
Death really doesn't exist. It's an illusion brought by meaning. Chances are most people reading this have died at some point. You're recalled to experience something. The universe requires diverse experience but has a limited amount of beings to do so. Death is a false flag to create urgency and action. Mathematics in its purest form is realizing multiple demensions. Those exist to find your way in a careless world. For the critics, I learned this from a Nicuraguan shaman missing many teeth.
>>696584932 No, actually that's universal background radiation. Not everything is a demon mate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background >>696585137 Negotiating for one's soul is a lot like a job interview son. You may be the one in need, but you have to make them want you.
basically, 'black' mirrors are just dark reflecting mediums, whether a pool of water, a mirror, polished black stone
many were of convex shape and--as in the case of the chaude glass or chaude case--used extensively during the 18th and 19th centuries for painting landscapes, as these scenes were frequently painted FACING AWAY from the subject, so only the reflection would be painted.
black mirrors have the effect of removing the subject from the painting and imparting a glowing, amber, mellow quality such as a landscape suffused with the light of late afternoon.
many people also employed dark mirrors for meditative or mystical purposes, as for necromancy or divination (scrying).
the sybil of the oracle at delphi, as well as the pythia of the oracle once it had rededicated to apollo, among others, were entranced by the 'vapours' of the cave and looked at the oomphalus (the navel of the world), a dark pool of water collected in front of her throne, to divine wisdom.
nostradamus described his 'visions' as originating during his meditations in a darkened room, staring into a bowl of water on a tripod for inspiration (not a crystal ball, as many maintain).
many people during the last 2,000 years have set up such psychomantea, whether in a mirrored room or chamber, or as a large, single mirror angled in front of the seated subject, in a totally or partially darkened room.
The idea is that there is just enough light to draw your attention into what looks like an infinite void, be drawn outside yourself and open yourself up to whatever might be out there.
a psychomanteum is easy to make; the method is to induce trance by reflecting darkness.
in more recent years (since the 1950's and 1960s), it became more fashionable to create sensory deprivation chambers, suspend the body in high saline solution at body temperature, dampen sounds, light and touch to produce something similar.
unfortunately, all too often this was accompanied by lsd, etc.
>>696584374 My family has a history of knowing how and when they're going to die. Dead ancestors always end up visiting within a week of their death and/or life-long premonitions. Can this be explained?
I think the moral of all this talk is to NOT CONTACT DEMONS. These are entities that are difficult to comprehend and impossible to control. I am not even so sure they are interested in our "souls". We are stupid enough to think they are.
Again, you are dealing with uncontrollable entities. Lucifer doesn't exist..."he" isn't some red guy with a pitchfork fucking some guy named chris the metrosexual. These are entities from another realm that have lived for eons, that for some reason take interest in our "interest" of them.
I will say, Pedigree matters. So does how many times your mind has been fractured...they can find a home in you if you have what people used to call "multiple personality disorder".
>>696566865 I'll pay like $100 bucks for it if you are willing, however, warning, I will dedicate your soul to the Lord Jesus Christ and write your name in the book of the Holy Mother in my church. Are you interested/that broke that you would sell your soul for $100?
>>696585153 There's a motherfucker in my area who is supposedly a wizard but I think he's just a scammer. There's still people paying him to do wizard stuff because of autism. I one made my friend call him and fuck with him and we did until he got real angry and started trowing curses on him, like 'may cancer eat you away' and shit like that. kek.
>>696585465 >Can you become a demon or an angel. No. Well, mostly no. Angel? Fuck no. An angel is more comparable to a hurricane that can think, or a demigod. They are utterly beyond humans, and they're god damn terrifying, almost Lovecraftian. As for becoming a demon, sort of. If you sell/entrust your soul to a demon powerful enough, they can manifest their own energy into the world, and your soul can inhabit that energy. In that state, you are more or less a human soul inhabiting a demonic shell. >Origins Okay, for angels, again, fuck angels. We just don't know. They don't really talk to people very much, and when they do, they don't answer questions, they give orders or warnings. As for demons, it depends on the type. Demon is just a word we use to identify predatory spiritual entities originating outside our world. The word demon is more like animal or plant or fungus than anything else. It's more of a classification than a specific type of entity. >>696585674 Precognition. It's extremely rare, highly fallible, and contrary to what many swindlers all over the world will tell you, it can't be actively controlled or used to directly perceive anything other than yourself. >>696585788 This! Not so much the incomprehensible part, we can study them; the scientific method still applies. but the "don't summon demons" part is good advice. That shit takes training. >>696585827 Probably a con man or a charlatan. If an actual practitioner started openly practicing magic, the arcanists and templars would come down on them like a hammer.
>>696587163 Not necessarily. If you get a good contract you can end up with an afterlife that's quite fair. Technically we don't know what happens to an unbound soul, so it's possible that uncommitted souls just disappear. Only the most powerful spiritual entities know, and they sure as shit aren't talking.
>>696587277 Isn't rare at all? Okay, just to be clear I'm talking real precognition, not the spacey potheads who get high and dream that they can see the future. Actual precognition is plenty rare. If you look at things in terms of total number of precognitive individuals versus total population of the world it's like 0.00000142857%. Maybe a little higher, as those numbers don't account for the increasing numbers of practitioners over the last eight years (this is from Durham's 2007 study, bit old, but his methodology is solid). >>696587422 Actually they're natural. It was mostly a joke though. >>696587617 >How are angels scary How AREN'T angels scary. They tend to be huge, horrifying beings who speak with a voice that shakes the world around them. What they look like depends entirely on the viewer, but there are a few themes that tend to show up: usually lots of eyes, lots of wings, triangles and circles.... >What do demons look like? This question doesn't really make sense. What do animals look like? What do plants look like? >>696587659 Clarify. That can mean a dozen different things. >>696587550 Angels don't answer questions, and demons technically are extraterrestrial, as a demon is defined as a predatory entity originating somewhere other than this world.
>>696586602 not really openly practicing I found out because his daughter is my cousins girlfriend, supposedly his grandma was a wizard too but I wouldn't believe he's a wizard even if I see him flying around on a broomstick.
>>696588296 Don't get all spacey here. Explain logically and in sensible terms, or at least define the terms you're using. >>696588150 This. Angels are more like an H.P. Lovercraft terror or a god than anything else. They're terrifying, supernaturally powerful, and no one really knows a damn thing about them.
So... When I was about 14 my mom told me that when she was my age a curse was put on my family by some gypsy because of something her dad had done, the curse is something to the effect of never experiencing the feeling of being truly satisfied or having no real desire to chase it, is there any way I can lift it or contact an entity who can help or guide me..?
>>696588591 >What is the devil Which one? There are ultimate evils in dozen different religions. Even if you're talking about christian devils, Satan and Lucifer aren't the same being.
Many of the great evils of mythology are just that: myths. Some are real, like for example we know that lucifer is an angel, and we know other angels don't like him, but we don't know why or really anything else about him.
The problem with these ancient evils is that they are, as one might expect of an ancient evil, really hard to study. We just don't know much. >>696588771 You have no basis for saying that. Precognition is quantifiable and quite easily traceable (since it's a phenomenon taking place through time, you don't even need to be there when it's happening to detect it.) That's like saying that censuses aren't accurate because census officers don't talk to every single human alive. >>696588912 Okay... Then you probably shouldn't expect good discussion. >>696589291 Reputable sources don't just post their information in a cheap, convenient mass produced book format.
Think about it, even if an actual summoning ritual did end up in a book like that, it would be useless. First, and most obviously, if the demon starts getting summon calls ALL THE TIME because a book was released, it'll just stop answering them. Imagine if your phone was going off every two seconds every day forever.
Also there's the little factor that once you get a True Name spread out that much it's basically useless.
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