>>696515361 Nej det är det inte gubben. Rosengård är ett SVENSKT ghetto, aka inte alls ett ghetto. Och ja, jag har varit där en del. Jag har även varit i ghetton i resten av världen och Rosengård är ett paradis i jämnförelse.
>>696515796 >Nej det är det inte gubben. Rosengård är ett SVENSKT ghetto, aka inte alls ett ghetto. Och ja, jag har varit där en del. Jag har även varit i ghetton i resten av världen och Rosengård är ett paradis i jämnförelse. translation for english speakers: This guy is saying he is gay and he loves to get brown cock up his ass. So Rosengård is a paradise for him.
>>696515189 >daily mass shootings In what country are there daily mass shootings? >inb4 murica We've not had a shooting in atleast a few days, and people consider literally every shooting "mass" these days, so that's not even a worthwhile figure
>>696515951 >translation for english speakers: This guy is saying he is gay and he loves to get brown cock up his ass. So Rosengård is a paradise for him. Nice try. >No, it's not old man. Rosengård is a SWEDISH ghetto, aka not a ghetto. And yes, I've been there a lot. I have also been in the ghettos of the rest of the world and Rosengård is a paradise in comparison.
>>696516367 Banning guns probably won't stop criminals, but it will stop crazy bastards in a maniac rampage to kill a dozen ppl when they get mad or sad for something, cause they won't have a gun at hand.
>>696517874 Well, I didn't want to describe every situation it would stop. But even premeditated killings by lonely idiots would be prevented. Like for example a 18yo muslim teenager that "hates" the country that is giving him food, and he wants to kill as many whites as he can, well... he don't find a gun he can't do that, surely he can think other ways to kill, but killing with guns is easy and fast
>>696518322 So you are comparing a gun to a truck?. A truck's purpose is transportation, a gun's purpose is killing. A guy running over a few dozens of ppl has happened one single time recently. On the other hand, every year thousands and thousands of ppl are killed by guns, only in the USA.
>>696519250 Gun violence is going down in the u.s. In general. Anyways the majority of gun violence is suicides. Then comes homicides. Mass shooting make up less than 1 percent.
You want to try to say taking away guns will lower suicide then I would like to direct you to Australia. Where it was shown that guns being removed had no causative effect on the suicide rate. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Report-on-gun-related-suicides-and-crime-for-the-Australian-Parliament-Rev.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiQuIHFx5HOAhWBKh4KHXdHB00QFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHdiCTzVL-RJGoRgv1YaWSNBMgK9A
The majority of gun homicides and mass shootings (killing of 4 or more people) are usually gang related violence (usually among each other). A cdc study showed that guns in the past few years of the U.S. We're used in self defense AT LEAST the same amount as they were used against people in criminal acts and at the LARGEST estimate at around 2 million uses of self defense.
>>696520561 So by your logic, it's stupid to try to improve road safety because ppl will die one way or another anyways?.
Also by your logic, goverment shouldn't have had make it harder to get bomb components for the same reason and also because: >ppl will find the way to make bombs anyway >ppl will die one way or another anyway >countries that don't allow those components are attacked by terrorist sometimes >it's comparable 1 bombing than 1.000 bombings
>>696520718 I know if I had a gun i would have killed my self at some moments of my life. Also I think I would have killed someone. I didn't because it wasn't easy to do those things without a gun. But that's just me.
How do you explain that countries with more guns has more violent deaths than countries with less guns? how is that possible? by your logic more guns=more safety.
So why only a few ppl die every year in countries like Japan, Spain, Germany, etc. Would you recommend them to flood their country with guns?
>>696519250 >every year thousands and thousands of ppl are killed by guns, only in the USA >only in the USA Now I could be wrong here... but I'm pretty sure that people get killed by guns outside of the US as well.
>>696521475 >How do you explain that countries with more guns has more violent deaths than countries with less guns? Show peer-reviewed statistical proof of this, please. Instead of just stating things you believe and putting it into a Photoshop graphic and uploading it to Facebook ala liberalism.
>>696522027 And being in a car is riskier than owning a firearm. Firearms arent the fucking problem. Tools are tools. We have seen this countless times where people use tools to kill each other, shit happens. The real problem in the states is the fact people, society, and our culture glorify guns as ultimate problem solvers. Look at any american media, we are constantly glorifying weapons and not teaching people how to be practical with them. Im not talking about licenses, im talking about a public education campaign. Go out into the public and teach them guns, while cool, are dangerous tools that caise death.
>>696522372 Wow, so you are missing the point since the beginning. >And being in a car is riskier than owning a firearm. Yes, I don't care about owning a gun myself, I care about the rest of idiotic ppl that surround s me having them. Congratulations, most stupid comment in the thread.
>Tools are tools Yeah but a tool which purpose is to kill is not comparable to a screwer.
>We have seen this countless times where people use tools to kill each other Yeah you can totally throw hundred of screwers at a killing speed to a lot of people in a few seconds
>The real problem in the states is the fact people, society, and our culture glorify guns as ultimate problem solvers. Exactly, that's my point. A gun by itslef is harmless, the dangerous thing is people having them and "solving" problems with them.
>im talking about a public education campaign Ok, wake me up when the entire world population is educated. That day nobody will need guns anyways. Meanwhile I don't want fucking retards using guns near me, because I don't want them to stupidly killing me or threatening me
>>696522284 It's actually incorrect, you just don't know it. If you had said "thousands of people are killed by guns in the USA" it would have made sense. But when you say "thousands of people are killed by guns ONLY in the USA", it implies that this only happens in the USA and nowhere else.
>>696522944 >i dont want retards with guns near me >perfectly fine with having retards in one ton missles traveling at 70 mph And here we are full circle ya dummy. One of these things is worse, and it isnt the guns. Fucking tard
>>696522372 >Go out into the public and teach them guns, while cool, are dangerous tools that caise death. That would be a waste of money. Everyone over the age of 5 knows that guns are dangerous and can cause death.
>>696523625 Are you trying to deviate the conversation into a CAR BANNING one? what the fuck are you doing?. Your logic is that, since you can virtually kill a person with ANYTHING (a pen, hitting it's head with an iPad, anything that you can imagine) we shouldn't ban ANYTHING in the world, OR ban EVERYTHING in the world, there's no discrimination, no rational analysis, no priorities, are you even trying?
Since it's stupid to allow only policemen and militars to own guns, it's also stupid to obligate cars to circulate only in streets or highways, they should be allowed to drive cars in the park, in a restaurant, etc. it just ALL the same.
>>696524549 Maybe (i supose it depends on the country). However, I can't and don't want to prohibit people to move from one place to another. I just hope they use car wisely, but I KNOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE to teach and convice 100% of the ppl to use them responsably.
However, banning a device which unique purpose is TO KILL people is just something logical. I won't lie, I would like to have a gun myself, but I don't want the stupid people that surrounds me having them, so I give up my "right" to own them (it's not actually a right in my country) just for my own safety.
For the same reason you can't count on 100% using cars responsably, you can't count on 100% of the people using guns properly and wisely.
>>696524462 Yes that is my point. People are going to die, people are going to kill. Why regulate something just because of a few deaths, i think warning labels should be taken off cleaning products as well. If you are an idiot, youll probably die. This tactic of treating adults like kids is the reason America is fucked. How can we make a better society if we dont allow common sense to grow
>>696524376 >thinking gangbangers do So, what... you think gangbangers aren't aware that guns are dangerous? They only shoot them at each other because they think they are toys and nobody's going to get hurt? Of course they know they are dangerous. People don't need to learn that guns are dangerous, they already know. What people need to learn is how to live together without killing each other, but that's got nothing to do with guns.
>>696525599 Im 27 my little nig. So you think you can tell me how to live my life, because others are too stupid to live theirs without intervention? Because some people are too ignorant to know that guns are only a last ditch option? You are european arent you?
which can be used to defend someone. Banning guns would seem logical if CRIMINALS DIDNT HAVE THEM but they do infact have them illegally. You are also forgetting the fact that guns can be used for sporting activities and or hunting.
>>696525836 Well so we are the same age, i'm surprised you still think like you were 12yo.
I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but I surely know how I don't want to live mine. I don't want to be afraid of a fucking stupid piece of shit like you have it easy to kill me when you realize your life is worthless, because you are angry with the world, or because we had a traffic fight, or because you just saw the Joker in a batman movie and it inspired you, or any other random shit, and you have a killing machine in your pocket, so you decide to shoot me or shoot a bunch of people.
If I die in an accident well, shit happens (actually im paraplegic because of an accident), but If I can prevent stupid ppl (which is 90%) to have an easy way to kill me I will try to do it.
>>696526522 >is upset over such a minuscule thing >not upset over something that legit crippled him Hahahaha What a fuckhead lol. If i were you id redirect my anger over not being able to orgasm at the department of transportation for letting some retard cripple you. Lol Also funnily enough, only rarely are legit purchased weapons used in these mass shootings. And what i said about common sense, too bad that accident didnt kill you, because your nonsense spouting shows how little common sense you have
>>696525982 No, people know guns are dangerous. The only lack of education is in RESPONSIBLE gun use, but that would only cut down on accidental gun deaths, of which there are actually very few. People who shoot other people with guns intentionally know what the consequences are for doing so.
Im not upset by it. Actually in my country it's very hard to find a gun, thus there are only like 300 homicides each year (in a 40 million ppl country), so It doesn't affect me at all. I'm just argumenting why I think americans should keep drowning themself in guns
>>696527344 Most of the people involved in gang violence use guns not to kill but to scare. It is only after they murder someone they understand that even a gunshot wound to the stomach can kill. >>696527457 I know how to properly use a firearm friendo
>>696528169 Not an island, actually not even a completely first world country, it's just Spain: 40 million people, 324 homicides in 2014, check it if u want... I tell you: less guns = less homicides, it just works like that. We could say the same with cars, less cars = less car accidents, trying to convice people it works in a different way is just stupid.
>>696528517 Of course less guns=less gun deaths. That isnt some kind of mystical power you have. But you still haven't convinced me how you can tell others what they can and cant own, when we can own vehicles that cause much more death.
>>696529324 But i can buy poison I can buy explosives If you ban cars, the government will still have to provide transportation. If you ban cars, you would have a lot less deaths than a gun ban would accomplish.
>>696529031 Ok, so by your logic ("if everybody owns a gun, there's more security, and ppl can stop killers") how can you explain the cop killings of the recent days? COPS were killed, they own guns, they know how to used, they were the target of the attacks.... they couldn't stop it. Less guns = less deaths, impossible to beat it
>>696529031 First of all I didn't say retarded at all What are you talking about?
Second your argument was dumb because you sound like an emo teenager that says "Ugh, mum you just don't understand how I'm feeling right now.God" even though it's very easy to understand what you're talking about. You have the right to own guns, yes. It was also written that the second amendment would become outdated and need to be reviewed and changed in coming times. This is from over 200 years ago and it hasn't been changed
>>696529745 What kind of poson can you legally buy? for rats? What can of explosives can you legalle buy? fireworks?
If you would want to buy a fucking bomb to kill people, wouldn't it be difficult to do it? and thus less least likely?
Goverment does provides transportation, it's called public transport. Also, most of developed countries goverments tries to convice ppl to stop using private cars so... nobody is saying cars are great and harmless
>>696530035 Then thank you for giving me the reason. More guns don't reduce killings, since ppl that own guns can make any simple strategy to kill anyway, by surprise, an ambush, whatever, so it would be better if the guys that killed the cops couldn't have the possibility to have a fucking gun in the first place.
>>696528442 >jew york times liberal rag >only source in article that supports the "at least 1 mass shooting per day" claim are unofficial website databases that cannot be trusted >the single trustworthy source, a congressional report, shows it at around 22 a year
>>696530720 Nope, just arguing that a complete gun ban is retarded. I may have said you cant tell someone what they cant own, but i didnt clarify that i am all for licensing as long as it allows for due process.
>>696515189 No, but grenades http://www.thelocal.se/20150724/third-grenade-attack-in-a-week-rocks-malm http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.565/huge-bomb-blast-rocks-sweden-s-malm%C3%B6.html https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/sweden-muslim-bomb-violence-spread-from-malmo-to-skane/
AGAIN: is it impossible? no, you can find a fucking gun in my country, but it's just difficult, there are few of them so it's easily to track them, know where they are, know what kind of ppl sell them, etc....
>>696531182 Aha... but how easy is to get the license? And how many automatic weapons there are? If you have millions, there are more chances some of they will end in the wrong hands, if there were only a few of them, is easily to control who owns them. Fuck is not that hard to understand it
>>696530884 Oh, black powder pipe bombs are OK, because they're not modern, like C4 explosive. Sure, they could kill and maim a lot of people just like C4, but they're ok. Because they aren't modern. They aaren't assault explosives.
>>696531595 That article says exactly what I was saying. People don't know how to use guns properly. Nowhere does it make any statement about the people using the guns not knowing what the guns can do.
>>696532606 So let thousands of deaths by guns happen over and over again until everybody "learns" to use them properly (by learn I supose you mean everybody is totally mature and can take the wiser decision always), and if they don't learn, you flood the country with MORE guns to teach them.
It's so obvious the obsession of americans with guns is because it's a big business and not because it's a right of them. If it wasn't a bussiness that right would have been long ago erased from their constitution.
>>696535070 holy shit... A BIG and sofisticated bomb is better to kill a lot of people, not a home made bomb made with black powder. Now you're going to try to convince me that more ppl kill with guns than with black powder just for a matter of preferences? not because a gun is more effective?
>>696533151 That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Someone proposed that the government should teach the people that guns are dangerous. I said that would be a waste of time because people already know that guns are dangerous. Also, teaching people gun safety and how to use guns properly isn't going to do anything either. People aren't being killed by the truckload because they're getting shot by accident. People are dying because other people are shooting guns at them and trying to kill them. The problem isn't people not being educated on gune use. The problem is people.
>>696535330 It's monkey see monkey do, people go on shooting rampages because it's real hot right now in the media. Guns are NOT more effective for mass murder. The biggest mass killing by a deranged individual in the US was the Oklahoma city bombing, where the bomb was a simple low-grade fertilizer bomb. Killed 168 and injured over 600.
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